Earlier today, I posted Daniel Denvir’s article about the death of a 12-year-old who was having an asthma attack. The school in Philadelphia has a nurse only two days a week, and that day there was none.
This reader comments:
“I knew that this would happen. I taught in Phila for years and am now retired. Poor children seem to have high incidences of chronic ailments. Asthma is one. These children often share their inhalers with the rest of their families as the medications for asthma are quite expensive. Their diseases are not as well managed so they go into crisis more often than children who are able to keep up with the costs of the disease. Make no mistake. People die from asthma. The reason we don’t hear about that happening very often is that for most the medical establishment can manage it quite effectively, but it is expensive.
I have two stories. In one school, the nurse, who is excellent and has vast experience as an er nurse as well, made the call to send for a child’s parent’s due to the severity of that child’s asthma. Someone who was not a nurse decided that child should not go home. Thankfully the nurse knew it was her call and she did not have to listen to anyone else, including a principal to make that kind of decision. What if the nurse wasn’t there. What would have happened to that child.
My second story is this. Phila schools were taken over by the state over a decade ago. We are all aware that among all of the other cuts, there was to be only one nurse for every 1500 kids. That meant that there were schools that did not have any nurses. The pronouncement from on high was that each principal was to appoint a teacher to be the nurse, and that if a teacher did not take that job, they were to be written up as insubordinate. Thankfully there were some principals who had the brains to understand that this was a very dangerous call. I don’t know if that rule still applies, but I know that there are still not enough nurses and am very surprised that many more children have not either died or been hospitalized due to this ignorant and callous policy.
Kids go outside and fall or hit their heads all the time. What layman knows the signs of a
traumatic head injury? How can a teacher tell if a child’s asthma warrants a visit to the emergency room? What if an adult in the school is having a stroke and the nurse is the only one to recognize the signs.(it happened).”

I had a diabetic student pass out in my class before. We only had a part time nurse then (it’s been going on for years in Philly’s poorest schools but it’s now come to a new low). Luckily *this* Philly School Teacher is also a diabetic and knew what to do for this little girl. She may have been in serious trouble if she wasn’t in my class.–Dana
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I’m a former employee in the district and as a coach, I had a player get her jaw broken during a game. Not only did we NOT have a trainer (I handled all injuries, etc.), but thankfully her father was there to take her to the hospital. I had no idea how serious the injury was. I now coach in a district where we have two trainers on site constantly as well as baseline testing done every season to be prepared for concussions. It’s incredible what the children in Philadelphia do not have because the money is not spent properly.
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As a former ER & school nurse, I’m very aware of the increasing need of our school populations for an experienced nurse in every school, every day. There are more kids with serious illnesses & important maintenance medications in schools than ever before. We want them to enjoy the benefits of being in school, but not at the cost of their health or, God forbid, their life. No teacher, secretary or assistant is capable of these observations & decisions, however well-meaning they may be. It’s time to acknowledge that a safe school environment must include a registered nurse.
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Our district has one nurse for 4 school buildings/2000 students and 250-300 faculty and staff. It has been that way for as long as I have lived here (20+ years).
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When the nurse is out of our building, the paraprofessional, the secretary, the counselor, and the principal administer the appropriate medicines. If we have a field trip, we have to have the students’ medical emergency sheets with us (our responsibility to make copies at the beginning of the year) and take needed medications in case of an emergency. We are periodically trained in CPR. Some personnel are trained to use a defibrillator.
All in the day of a teacher and the staff of the school.
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In my school in Utah, we NEVER have a nurse in the building. We have one nurse for the entire northern end of our district (about 40 square miles), and her job is to write the medical plans for the students. The only time I’ve actually seen her in our building was when we were all trained to use the defibrilator and the epi-pens for students having allergic reactions. I have had students with seizure disorders, diabetes (one of my girls required that I shove a needle of insulin into her leg should she go into shock), severe allergies and severe asthma. The kids are mostly expected to take care of it themselves. I teach 8th and 9th graders. Kids check their blood sugar in class and carry snacks and testing supplies in small bags they take with them. Kids have to carry their own inhalers and know when to use them. Fortunately, I’ve never had a major incident in my classroom, but it could happen any day. I hope I will be equal to that time. In Utah, we have, on average, one school nurse for every 1,200 kids.
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Wow! Our students are not allowed to carry their own meds. They have to bring it in in a new box and designate it for school. They have to go to the clinic for treatments, shots, etc. It is considered not being “drug free” to do otherwise. They are afraid someone will steal or use someone else’s meds…even Midol. It has been this way for at least 20 years.
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The state of Utah passed a law several years ago to allow students to carry their own meds. A doctor has to sign the form every year. Probably because we have no nurses.
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My first few years teaching, we had a wonderful nurse who was an RN. My very first year, I had two boys who were on meds for ADHD. They both had extreme cases of it. If they took their meds, the one did very well, but the other still had problems. Nothing like when he didn’t take his meds. The nurse helped me one day when the one boy didn’t take his meds. He let his mom think he had. By 10 AM he was violent. I had to get all of my other students out of our classroom and call the nurse while he threw a heavy computer against the wall as though it were nothing. She came and calmed him down and was able to take him to the office to wait for his mom. The other boy would show up sometimes with fire in his eyes. His mom and step-dad didn’t get his meds. You have to take your child to the psychiatrist every time you need to get a new bottle. I knew instantly that we were going to have a rough day. The nurse was always there for me. Several years ago, schools in AZ started phasing out RNs and replacing them with aides who had taken a very limited class. Fortunately, I knew some who were very good but never as good as the RNs. This is just another way for schools to save money. I think this is very risky for our students and a lawsuit waiting to happen.
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We have a nurse one day a week. We just enrolled a child with type 1 diabetes, and has very limited English. The teacher and office clerk are expected to determine the right amount of oral insulin to give him, based on the number of carbohydrates he will be ingesting. And, if any problems arise, consult his brother in 4th grade! Now how can that be a reasonable policy?
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A friend of mine has a son that lost his entire bladder to cancer at the age of 2 and has a stoma that must be drained every 4 hours. He’s 14 now and does it himself, but when he was 5 or 6, his older brother, who was 10, had to help him. No nurse at all.
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This is what “reform” looks like. Child abusing tests for tots nationwide. Child neglect leading to death in Philly.
I grieve for the parents of this girl. @#$&$#*@&#@*!!!!!
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Your comment should be on the front page of every paper along with a picture of this child’s grieving parents at her funeral.
This is indeed what reform looks like.
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I’m a school administrator. I was just trained to administer an EPI pen and have also been trained to give out meds. I’ve worked in education since 1972. This is a first for me.
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“I’m a school administrator.”
My condolences!
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Put “education reformers” in charge of public schools. Starve those public schools of resources like nurses, libraries, counselors, air conditioners and room space. Then privilege charter schools and vouchers over public schools and promote them as a panacea. Voilá! $tudent $ucce$$!
It may not be technically illegal, but it is an immoral enterprise.
But not to worry. Those cagebusting gap-crushing purveyors of EduExcellence are made of stern stuff:
“By trying we can easily endure adversity. Another man’s, I mean.” [Mark Twain]
Just remember: the silver bullets aimed at the heart of public education are meant for OTHER PEOPLE’S CHILDREN.
Education Rheephormers, not to worry—Harpeth Hall & Maumee Valley Country Day School & Lakeside School & Delbarton School & Harvard-Westlake & Cranbrook & the rest will be unaffected. No bullets aimed at them, silver or otherwise.
Strangely, this offers no relief or comfort to the vast majority…
😦
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Hey you out there assigned to monitor Dr. Ravitch’s blog. Can you read this stuff without feelings of disgust for the reformers who mandate these policies? I have to pace myself to get through some of these posts. How do your bosses live with themselves?
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Race To The Top. And where would that be exactly?…heaven?
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I presume they think to the top of international test comparisons. On Oct 12, 2013 2:36 AM, “Diane Ravitch’s blog” wrote:
> ** > JoJoFox commented: “Race To The Top. And where would that be > exactly?…heaven?”
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In Buffalo all the schools have full time nurses paid by Erie County (much less pay than if they were on a teacher’s salary). This was not always the case and the school secretary took care of sick kids. Buffalo has a very high asthma rate, partly due to the fumes from trucks waiting to go over the Peace Bridge to Canada.
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From seeing a lot of people taken out of the wilderness in helicopters for injuries I learned from the paramedics that the more a person fights you helping them the worse the head injury is. The real question is “What are we doing to our YOUTH.” Are we insane? I think so or this would not be happening. The girl basically dies with her father stopping an ambulance on the way to the hospital because they sent her home? What is going to happen to those who made the decisions immediately and to those who made the decisions to blow the money away to their friends so that nurses and other basic health, outside of education, and safety of the student while at school cannot do their job or are afraid of doing their job. Are we going to allow this or are going to use every tool in the toolkit to stop them? We made ours here at LAUSD what are you going to do? This is why when this story came up I had to tell the worse of ours. They do this everywhere. We see too much tragedy in students, parents, teachers, employees and administrators get away with, literally, murder.
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Well said George!
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The LAUSD budget for some schools as little one half day per week. Epi pen and band-aids are no big deal but they wanted us to learn how to give epilepsy medicine anally.
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Did you learn that?
Unbelievable..
We had to take a course on CPR…I think that is something everyone should know……but I am not a nurse and I refuse to offer any medical aid other than CPR or a band aid!!
I would hope that the parents are going to sue the socks off this school system
Go for it…I would clean them out then ask for all of the money that is spent on those useless tests..
I hope these parents keep this in the public eye so that America can really see how inept our educational system has become…without any regard to the health of the students….
I am also thinking of the young man who supposedly got stuck in the wrestling mat????
How could this happen?/
Someone asked a comment as to why these mats…if so dangerous…were not locked up…away from the students…
We, in America are becoming very sloppy when it comes to the health and welfare of our children..These children do not deserve any of the backlashes from these Plastic Greedy Politicians running and ruining our schools.
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School nurses are a critical piece of an effective school, and are especially needed in schools with children who have high needs. The higher the level of poverty, the greater the needs. It is unconscionable to ignore this.
As a superintendent, I see the need each and every day. We are currently partnering with Hershey Medical Center, and they are helping us address some of the basic screening needs. That is making a difference.
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Reblogged this on Timbered Classrooms… and commented:
When a child needs a nurse… They cannot wait…..
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And…it goes on and on and on…
Does anyone know of one school in this USA where a nurse is on duty during every school hour???
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Mine–we have a nurse on duty full-time during school hours. However if you run an after-school group as an honoraria (read, paid peanuts but you do it anyway “on your honor”), you are required to be Epi-pen and CPR certified because there is no nurse on duty after school. An administrator is also required to be in the building during this time.
In regard to medications, inhalers or otherwise, no personnel are permitted to administer ANY medication unless a) he or she is the school nurse, b) the parents have explicitly granted this permission and stated in writing the name/dosage of the medication the nurse can administer and c) the parents have provided the medication to be given.
So in my school, if your kid has a headache/stomachache, no one gives meds unless the parent had the forethought to provide the info. and the meds to the nurse’s office at the beginning of the year. This practice is actually discouraged anyway, as the school is not a pharmacy.
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I am advocating for more school nurse funding in Charlotte, NC. I too was outraged at the preventable death of this young girl. We have had 2 instances in the last month of a child having a first time allergic reaction while in school. Luckily both times the nurse just happend to be there so she could administer her own emergency medication, With no nurse, both cases could have been tragedies we well. Things need to change and parents can help make that change. If we speak loud enough and come together we can force our elected officials to prioritize the health and safety of our children. It should be a given but since it does not seem to be we need to speak louder for the sake of our children.
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I currently teach middle school in the South Bronx. These children raised in and in the shadows of dystopian housing projects and buffered by the emotional and societal detritus of poverty have seen the organizing and “purifying” fires of reform take away their library, classroom space, increase class size, excess teachers to the point of understaffing due to budget limitations, ending after school enrichment and extra curricular activities and even the ability to pay a complete staff of educators. However, it was two years ago when our school-based clinic was closed ( the only medical care many of our students experience) that I understood and allowed myself to believe fully the truth. In the Huxleyian landscape of reform, my wise-beyond-their-years, empathetic, thoughtful students are officially Epsilons.
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It’s rather ironic and infuriating that our schools have been robbed of necessities under the catchy phrase “No Child Left Behind” and the more straight foward one, “Race to the Top” ( or push to the bottom) I have been teaching for over 30 years and have watched as the robbing and eventual exploitation of our children has become the norm. The bad old days before any of this began were so much better. In my opinion, they have segregated education once again. Now it’s the haves and have nots. I read a phrase that describes it well, “Cookies for Corporations, Crumbs for Children” That’s how it is and now they are trying to take away the crumbs!
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It’s really criminal that there are not full time nurses at these schools. Thank goodness when I taught in a poor NJ district, which later became an Abbott district, we always had a full time nurse who was worth her weight in gold, even the one who was a crotchety blow hard. The richest most powerful country on earth: no universal health care and part time nurses in needy poor schools. Obamacare is the best we could come up with and the GOP is fighting that tooth and nail.
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This is all so true but there are more problems than this. The nursing supervisors’ favorite words are this: ‘follow policy’, The policies, in many instances are old and irrelevant. For instance, there has been several occasions where students have had anaphylactic reactions and were either unprepared or undiagnosed. I personally know of several instances where the school nurse had to make the decision to either follow policy or let a child day before their eyes; in all instances, an available Epipen was used and it was kept quiet. Had the supervisors known of these actions those nurses would have been hung out to dry. These school nurses’ decisions to go against the grain saved the lives of several students who would’ve clearly died if the medication was not given. I guarantee you that OSIS would not have stood behind the nurses and their actions. Look what happened to the nurse at G’town high school 6 or 7 years ago – disgraceful!
Bottom line, there is very little support from the nursing supervisors and they seem stuck in old modalities that don’t match the practice of school nurses in 2013. Rhona, please retire – you shouldn’t have changed your mind. Connie, you’re sweet but have to step out of the ‘what does the policy state?’ box, and Tracey, I wish you had more of an understanding of the difficulties school nurses face on a constant basis. Where is the support?
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This is a tragedy. Apparently it happened on September 25th. The details remain unclear. More immediate medical attention may well have averted the death of this young lady.
As far as I can tell the Bryant Elementary School
http://webgui.phila.k12.pa.us/schools/b/bryant/our-faculty-and-staff
has 33 classroom teachers, 4 specialists including a physical and health education teacher. In addition there is a counselor, a school psychologist, a speech therapist, 2 police officers and a part-time nurse. Again it is unclear who in addition to the nurse is part-time as opposed to full-time.
It is unclear what this year’s enrollments are. Prior year student enrollment were:
2010-2011 476
2011-2012 522
2012-2013 495
https://webapps.philasd.org/school_profile/view/1230
With this level of resources it seems to me hard to justify a lack of health care and emergency medical coverage. For example, why wouldn’t all school Police Officers be fully certified as EMTs – this is the case in many rural police forces? Why wouldn’t the physical and health education teacher be a nurse or PA?
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I once overrode a principal and called 911 for a child who was said to be “faking” an asthma attack. The kid spent over a week at St. Christopher’s Hospital, multiple days in the ICU. I went to the ER with the kid and watched 13 doctors, nurses, and techs throw everything they had at this kid to keep him alive. I was an awful experience for me as well as for the kid, and it earned me the resentment of my principal.
There is no defense for this principal, who went unpunished, but her actions reflected what is still an underlying issue in tragedies like Laporshia’s. Principals are under pressure to be in control, and they operate in systems that use their calls for help as evidence against their competence.
I don’t know that that was the case at the Bryant School, but one consequence of stripping our schools or resources is that inappropriate people are forced to make decisions for which common sense is an inadequate guide.
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“if a teacher did not take that job, they were to be written up as insubordinate.”
Within that sentence lies the key to getting rid of a “tenured” teacher in 45 days. I’ve seen it done more than once.
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We have a full-time nurse. When she’s absent we sometimes even have a substitute nurse. I would be very afraid to work in a school that did not have a nurse. I am not qualified to determine the severity of a health issue and I would also be worried about liability in this very litigious society.
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The reason there are no nurses, art and physical education is that the administrators for their billionaire and other friends, depending on what level you are playing at, steal the money. All the big school districts: N.Y., LAUSD, Chicago, Philadelphia, D.C. and such have plenty of revenue/student as it is that not total revenue which is for education. You cannot directly compare the total revenue of N.Y. to a little rural district except for per student. This can be easily proven as this what I do for fun and entertainment is bust the crooks. Better than reading a good book and I used to read 3-4 800 pagers a week for fun. Why are we letting this go on? Why isn’t anyone, except for two I know here, doing this work to bust them and to find the money to put them back in.
We are talking on this blog in only one day about for sure two they killed almost purposely if not purposely. At least this is child abuse and we want prosecutions. That will stop this. What do you think.
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New scheme by the Philadelphia City Council to raise money for education..(Yes, the same City Council that let’s 590 million in delinquent property taxes go uncollected) . Well, now they’ve come up with this. Can you say ‘exploitation’?
A plan to advertise in Philadelphia Public Schools
http://planphilly.com/articles/2013/10/03/a-plan-to-advertise-in-public-schools
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It is all about what you do with the money. No money, no programme. Will always be true. Fraud and gifts to friends means less money for education. It is an equation as also with pay double and you do 1/2 as much.
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I am a school nurse in Texas but started my career in school nursing as a Pennsylvania certified school nurse. Each state approaches the hiring of school nurses differently. PA requires 1 certified school nurse for every 1500 students. As a result I covered 4 schools. Texas does not have a similar mandate for districts to hire school nurses with particular qualifications or in fact any nurses at all. I happen to work in a district in which the school board values school nurses and has placed one in every school. That being said, some other districts in TX have minimal school nursing services. Having read the above responses to this blog written by lay persons, I am frightened by the level of medical misinformation under which some folks operate in schools. Tragedy is inevitable under those circumstances.
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NurseJudie, you are so lucky to work for a good school district who seems to care about the health of their children.
Concerning the case in Philadelphia this nurse and the school district need to be sued civilly and criminally prosecuted for knowingly letting a student die without proper medical care in a timely manner. This is just below homicide, maybe murder two or manslaughter. If the nurse was forced to not treat this student then they need to be prosecuted to give the goods on those who made them do this and then more prosecutions. Philadelphia has over $15,000/student. They are not out of money unless they gave it all to their friends and then let us have more prosecutions for fraud. I have given you the basics. Read the budget and nail them.
At LAUSD we have a case worse than that. This is pre-planned. My friend who represents minority, poverty special ed students in their IEP’s has had LAUSD spend between $2-3 million to ruin him over the years and prevent him from representing these students. What does that make them? This student needed a heart transplant at birth. Now the student needed another heart transplant. Without an IEP, LAUSD sent this student in a serious known medical situation to a charter school without a nurse knowingly. The student had a heart attack and died at the school. This is homicide. Homicide is the killing of another human being with forethought and total lack of concern.
Both cases show total lack of concern. In Philadelphia it was at the moment that the conscious decision was made to put the student in a life threatening situation which ended up in their death.
In the LAUSD case the district had years of knowledge and constantly made decisions to put the student in a life threatening situation which resulted in the death. Both bad, but the one in LAUSD is much worse as they had years to make it happen and it was not a decision at the moment. It was a long term death sentence for this student.
How many more cases are there we do not know about. Diane, want to talk with my friend, email me and it will happen.
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