Richard Rothstein of the Economic Policy Institute was part
of a radio program that began with an interview of Secretary of
Education Duncan. Rothstein, who has written extensively about how
government policies created and preserved segregated neighborhoods,
was taken aback
by what Duncan said. He called it “backsliding.”
Rothstein says that Duncan doesn’t understand why government must act
forcefully to promote integration.
He writes: “Integration is necessary for the success of black students, even if they never
have the opportunity to command white soldiers or hold jobs in
predominantly white enterprises. When African-American students
from impoverished families are concentrated together in racially
isolated schools, in racially isolated neighborhoods, exposed only
to other students who also come from low-income, crime-ridden
neighborhoods and from homes where parents have low educational
levels themselves, the obstacles to these students’ success are
most often overwhelming. In racially isolated schools with
concentrations of children from low-income families, students have
no models of higher academic achievement, teachers must pitch
instruction to a lower academic average, more time is spent on
discipline and less on instruction, and the curriculum is disrupted
by continual movement in and out of classrooms by children whose
housing is unstable.
“Social science research for a half century
has documented the benefits of racial integration for black student
achievement, with no corresponding harm to whites. When low income
black students attend integrated schools that are mostly populated
by middle class white students, achievement improves and the test
score gap narrows. By offering only a “diversity” rationale for
racial integration, Secretary Duncan indicated that he is either
unfamiliar with this research or chooses to ignore it.”

Instead of trying to create economically-integrated neighborhood schools (a policy that, to my knowledge, has never succeeded, at least not for long because the higher-SES parents — white, black, brown, and Asian — eventually pull out of the economically-integrated schools), why not focus on the low-SES-area schools and implement reforms in those schools that specifically focus on the reasons the low-SES students are performing poorly?
If the problem is endemic misbehavior, then implement reforms that improve behavior.
If the problem is low expectations/weak curriculum, then implement reforms that emphasize normal expectations and teach a normal curriculum.
Some experts, citing the huge differences in vocabulary size between low-SES kindergarteners and high-SES kindergarteners, think that much of the poor academic performance in the low-SES-area schools is attributable to the fact that many low-SES students start elementary school with such a small vocabulary that it is difficult — perhaps impossible — for them to ever catch up and read at grade level. Students who are reading far below grade level will inevitably find school frustrating and boring; these students will resort to misbehavior and to mocking high-achieving students. If many/most of the students in a class are experiencing this frustration/boredom, then the misbehavior and low-achievement attitudes will become the norm. If this analysis is accurate, the problem might be ameliorated — but not solved — by creating economically-integrated classes so that the frustrated/bored/misbehaving students would be in the minority. However, it would be more efficient and productive to instead implement reforms focusing on improving the vocabulary of the low-SES students in pre-school and the early elementary years.
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quote: ” implement reforms focusing on improving the vocabulary of the low-SES students in pre-school and the early elementary years.”
this is what we have been attempting to do with the evidence-based practices…. Catherine Snow, Louisa Moats and others have described these improvements…. we have known about the differences for 50 or more years…. to take it out of a black/white racial (skin color) description look at the work of Basil Bernstein in Liverpool (before the Beatles) and he said many children come to school with a restricted code of language (limited) and that the school’s job is to assist the student in the requirements of academic language. The same differences in Italy are economic (not racial; not skin color) and the southern Italian children score “lower” than the northern Italian children because they were penalized on the tests by accuracy/speed tradeoffs….. Please believe me we have been working on the needed improvements for 50 years….. to say the schools have failed in this regard is a myth and to then blame the “faiure” on teachers is a lie.
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Your points are well taken and in fact well known, which is why research has consistently shown quality pre-K in conjunction with significantly reduced class size in early elementary school are perhaps the most critical components of success that can be implemented in the school environment. Arne Duncan certainly knows this, since this was included precisely in Obama’s “Children First” Presidential campaign promise in 2008, and it was Arne Duncan who disregarded implementation of this campaign promise subsequently.
http://www.educationnews.org/articles/28450/1/Obama-the-Next-Education-President/Page1.html
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Since my retirement from active law practice a few years ago, I’ve spent a lot of time following the school reform debate — reading books, newspaper articles, and blogs. Through this reading, I’ve gotten the impression — perhaps inaccurate — that school reformers rarely, if ever, talk about improving vocabulary for low-SES students in the pre-school and early-elementary years. Certainly, the elected officials, editorial writers, reporters, think tank experts, and bloggers who are pushing high-stakes testing, teacher evaluation, teacher discharge, eliminating tenure, vouchers, and charters are not saying anything about improving the low-SES students’ vocabularies. There has, of course, been some discussion/argument re the importance of Head Start-type programs. However, my impression — again perhaps inaccurate — is that the Head Start advocates (as well as most Head Start programs) pay only a little attention to improving vocabulary and instead focus more on improving the low-SES students’ social/behavior skills and/or nutrition/health. Certainly, in the DC area (where I live) the huge school reform debate has focused mostly on “Rheeform” — the high-stakes testing — and secondarily on charters, with zero public discussion re low-SES students’ vocabulary deficits.
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Wow. To have a Secretary of Education under an allegedly progressive Prez that misses the esence of Brown vs. Board of Ed is truly amazing (in a bad way). Desegregation has been one of the indisputably effective historical measures for improving minority education.
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The key word in your post is “allegedly”.
For this president is not in any way progressive. He’s a die hard neo-liberal through and through.
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Isn’t what Rothstein’s advocating essentially “busing”? There are and have always been good arguments in favor of that approach to integration, but I don’t see how Arne Duncan’s different from every other Secretary of Education that I can recall in terms of his failure to use or advocate for that approach.
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No, Rothstein advocates an activist role for federal government providing incentives for desegregated housing, not busing.
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Thanks. So school diversity not through education policy (e.g. busing or a”plus factor” school admissions), but though housing policy. But in that case, why pick on Duncan? Why not call out whoever’s the Secretary of HUD, or Obama?
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By the way, thanks for this blog, Diane — I find it fairly amazing that I made a little comment here the other day and the one and only E.D. Hirsch responded to it almost instantly. Made my week!
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And so does the one and only Diane Ravitch and many times instantly.
Hirsch also has a stake in the success of his merger with Amplify. If those who adopt CK don’t fare well on the newest wave of testing and bubble picking, maybe that won’t be good for him.
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Duncan has one mission. Give it to the privatizeers at all costs no matter what. He does not care or care to know. He has a mission and he will complete it as the rewards are so high for him and Obama when they leave that they do not care about any of us. As my friends grandfather taught him “I hear real good, but I see a whole lot better.” Only look at what they do in comparison to what they told us they would do not what they say after they are in. Obama is a major failure at helping the public. He only assists the elites of the world. Right now with the Syrian thing he is in over his head. This is Russia’s sphere of influence. They and China are not going to sit back. Maybe they want the apocalypse. Ever thought of that one. I remember a couple of years ago here in Orange County they came together to pray for the End of the World as they believed they could make it happen. Ever notice the influence of this in our military and the influence that has on our occupations. This is Duncan and Obama.
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Petrilli’s comment: quote: “Now, Secretary Duncan has not always been so helpful on the case for the common core partly because many conservatives out there fear that this is a real federal intervention in our schools. So the best thing that Arne Duncan can do, in effect, is to stay quiet about these standards. ”
This reminds me of the attempt to gain more women voters by “changing the message” so Petrilli wants Duncan to “shut up” so that Petrilli can control the message….
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I agree completely with Rothstein. Confining children to neighborhoods crowded with low-income people of color sends a very negative message to those children and adversely affects their life chances. Children learn a great deal from one another so improving their circumstances by schools alone is not enough. We have many years of research confirming this point of view.
That said, we know that forced integration does not work. As another poster said, when that happens, the higher-income people just pull their children and move. Yet the education of all children is so critical to the strength of our country that government must take an active and aggressive part in integrating poor children into the mainstream society. To me the only sensible way to do it is through subsidized housing in all parts of the United States. In this way, every community (even places like Beverly Hills) would have some low-income housing (duplexes, triplexes spread throughout the community and not huge apartment buildings).
If the present trend toward privatization continues, we know how it will end because it’s been tried in other countries: the public schools will become depositories for the poor, the disabled and the children of color. We can’t allow that to happen to our country.
As Labor Lawyer says, there is much we can do to improve urban schools, but as we learned long ago, there is no “separate but equal.” We can’t give up the ideal of ensuring every child an opportunity to acquire a good education. To me, that can’t happen when a child is confined to impoverished neighborhoods. We can do better, and I believe we will.
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I don’t agree that it’s a question of Arne Duncan “understanding” the proper role of the federal government in promoting integration. If we view Arne’s praxis before he left Chicago, it became clear over time that he was in fact committed to promoting segregation, re-segregation, and, most dramatically, the elimination of African American (and other Black) Chicago teachers by means of the trickery of corporate “school reform”, viz. “standards and accountability.”
Arne Duncan understands his job quite well — the massive privatization and elimination of unions in the public schools (while others like Wisconsin’s Scott Walker and Michigan’s Rick Snyder do it directly using ALEC legislation).
And Duncan’s work has not been limited to Chicago.
Before Hurricane Katrina, the largest and most powerful (and most Black) union in the union unfriendly state of Louisiana was the United Teachers of New Orleans. By the time its president left to work at the AFT in Washington, the New Orleans teachers union had an illustrious history, not only of fighting for the teachers (and other union members) but also in standing up for public education in that very very segregated city. With the help of Duncan and others, and with the direct leadership of Duncan’s predecessor, Chicago Boys boy Paul G. Vallas, the New Orleans teachers union was busted following Katrina, the public schools were (mostly) privatized, and the segregation (which was already large) got bigger.
Beginning in 2002 in Chicago, Arne Duncan attacked black schools, black teachers, and black communities behind the corporate “school reform” smokescreen. The first three elementary schools closed because they were “failing” by Arne Duncan were Williams, Dodge and Terrell. Not one white child attended school in any of those three. The Chicago media (and Arne’s handlers, led by Peter Cunningham) pushed the talking point that the prolonged “failure” of those schools required the “courage” (the Sun-Times word) that Arne was showing to end the “failure” and save the children, blah blah blah. That’s been the same ever since.
The next round of attacks on Chicago’s black schools included the “turnaround” of other elementary schools, and then the closing of high schools (Austin; Calumet) as well. The Academy for Urban School Excellence (the product of one of the lesser known members of the Billionaire Boys Club, Chicago multi-millionaire venture capitalist Martin Koldyke) took over schools, years after year, as part of the expensive “turnaround” (reconstitution) despite the fact that all the research showed that reconstitution was a filed policy. (The use of the corporate term “turnaround” in Chicago never caught on with the State of Illinois; when Chicago’s Board of Education votes to screw a school by this method, it voted on a motion to “reconstitute” the school “via turnaround”).
In each case, Arne and the Chicago Boys, long before they got national power, would fire the black principal, administrators, and teachers at the schools. Most of the teachers were replaced by young white female novices, supposedly trained in the sure-fire AUSL “turnaround” teaching methods. Usually, the front man for each of these schools was a Black guy with little or no teaching experience (ex-military guys were favored for a couple of years). The results were “Sherman School of Excellence,” “Harvard School of Excellence” etc.
One of my favorite Arne Duncan moments came at the so-called “Sherman School of Excellence” which had been turnarounded a few years before Duncan hosted a huge dog and pony sow to announce that the Gates Foundation had terminated its “small schools” program and was now supporting (to the initial tune of $19 million for Chicago) “turnaround.”
The media event, held on a January day at the “Sherman School of Excellence,” was supposed to include a media tour of the classrooms.
Until I showed up with my press credentials and they couldn’t kick me out.
When I asked the mayor whether he was going to apologize to all those teachers and principals who had been doing “small schools” with beaverish intensity and energy, Daley’s press person (whom I had known for years) terminated the press conference before the mayor or Arne could answer. We were all ordered to leave. “What about the tour?” I asked.
“Cancelled,” they said.
But they hadn’t told the TV cameras, so I just joined the NBC cameras that were being led up the stairs by one of the many young elves they always have around for such stuff.
As I reported at the time, the second floor class we were to view (and put on TV) had about 20 little black kids sitting in a circle reading with a very very young white female teacher.
Then we went out in the hall, and all the other first and second grade children were lined up with their “turnaround” teachers.
“Where did you get all these young white girls?” I asked, “This looks like last year’s Mother McCauley volleyball team…”
They weren’t please. I kept taking pictures fast as I could.
Three years earlier, Sherman had had mostly black teachers (of all ages) and a black administration consisting of veterans of CPS.
By that year, Sherman had a fast talking black guy as principal (he came from “outside”) and literally a bunch of “teachers” all of whom looked vaguely like Buffy Vampire Slayer. For a time I called them the “Buffies” until I was called out for some offense.
But the fact was, AUSL and “turnaround” were purging black teachers and principals as ruthlessly as the Purge Trials in Russia in the mid-1930s.
And that’s continued since Arne took the Chicago Boys and the Chicago Plan to the White House and it became Race To The Top.
So, with all due respect to Richard Rothstein, I do not think Arne is misunderestimating or misunderstanding anything.
That’s been his policy since he was plucked from the obscurity of his comfortable trust fund baby life and re-created as “Chief Executive Officer” of Chicago’s public schools by Richard M. Daley on July 1, 2001.
The joke is on the rest of us.
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The rot of school reform begins at the top.
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WOW! That is so scary and is exactly what is happening in my old home town and where I taught for 36 years. Sadly the superintendent is none other than the unqualified, non certified Paul Vallas and the state ed commissioner is Stephen Pryor his Achievement First buddy. Why can’t BPT get some national notoriety for the robbery and destruction going on there.
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TFA is staffed with Buffies and Biffs who have no classroom management skills, little idea about how to teach, and yet they take jobs away from educators–often educators of color, as George Schmidt notes. It’s all part of the reform nonsense Arne Duncan has always promoted.
Duncan’s “cautious” (read: white supremacist) approach to integration is an insult to any idea of a fully democratic society and to the legacy of the Civil Rights movement. He is typical of white people who think integration is going well when there is one family of color in their town (they have no sense of proportion). Duncan also pretends–because, like George Schmidt, I do not believe Duncan’s professed ignorance of history–that separate but equal could exist–the entire history of the United States and its own brand of apartheid shows that separate will always be unequal; that the haves will never accord a decent education to the have nots.
I prefer my plan: a tax on whiteness. The more segregated FROM people of color and poorer citizens a town or Connecticut gold coast community or Farmington Valley hamlet is, the more they will pay in a tax which will go to the poor and non-white, mainly urban areas so that they can have the Utopian Ideal of an Educational Establishment, not a dismal charter school with constant test-prep and big brother discipline methods. If “white” people decide they want these schools of excellence, with their courtyards, gardens, well-stocked libraries and limited technology, they can bus themselves to these schools. And maybe they will see that the “other” is not such a scary monster after all. But urban segregated charter schools will never be a solution–they will only enshrine the culture of racism and classism–with its attendant mindless nonsense and unthinking allegiance, as is demonstrated by the supremely mediocre intellect of the United States Secretary of Education–because, truth to tell, education in this country is no where near what it could or should be, even for the wealthy, privileged class to which Duncan belongs.
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I’ll try posting this again, don’t know what happened to the first.
Rothstein and Carnoy have to be socialists for bringing up the socio-economic class thingy!
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As a teacher in an extremely poverty-ridden neighborhood school in an urban district in CT and a parent who sent my children to an integrated school in Evanston, IL, (where white children were from generally affluent families and black/Hispanic children were from generally poor, single parent families), I feel qualified to weigh in on this debate.
My experience is this: if we want to raise children out of poverty, then we MUST not just talk about school reform, but we must develop policies that reform the culture of poverty that affect an entire family. The “Comer School” model does that and makes the school a community center where parents are welcomed for programs that deal with everything from pre-natal care to understanding how to apply for a job or get off drugs. The school becomes the wise, extended family that can actually change the trajectory of a dysfunctional family so that the same mistakes of drugs, gangs, prison, teen pregnancy, etc., etc. are not repeated generation after generation.
Aside from the kids who start out with very difficult personalities from abusive experiences (about 40%), I have seen time and again, students who come to me as happy 7th graders, and then inexplicably change into sullen, or angry kids who act out everyday, only to find out that they have witnessed some horrific event like a parent getting beaten by a boyfriend, or someone shot on the street. We have extremely limited social work resources, and no good Common Core lesson and testing, testing, testing, seem to ease their pain. (And since I had the audacity to try to reach them on a human level before I could teach them anything, I was put on probation and am in the process of being terminated because my test scores were not good enough!)
So, please, Arne Duncan and all the others, let’s shift some of the millions of dollars that are being spent on the “Emperor’s New Clothes” and figure out how to lift families out of poverty before we just blame the under performing teachers and schools as the root of the problem.
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It is all ridiculous. I still can’t believe this nonsense has been forced on America.
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Multiple choice question: which of these is true: A. Separate is inherently unequal; B. Voluntary integration is an oxymoron; C. Arne Duncan gets a failing grade in history; D. All of the above.
Poorer kids will increase vocabulary skills faster and farther if they have quality pre-school and full-day kindergarten with very small class-sizes (15 or fewer students), are among classmates with higher vocabulary skills, and if their parents have jobs with livable incomes so as not to remain poor.
If schools can become a one-stop-shop for social services that help dysfunctional and/or poor families access much needed assistance, everyone wins.
In a nutshell, is that about it?
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I disagree on one point: It should not fall solely upon the schools to be a “one stop shop” for social services. I think they can serve as a point of contact, as finders/filters and point the way to external services for those who need them, but so much of what is needed to insure success in school are not things attributable to school. That is a responsibility that the rest of us own and are not attending to.
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