A reader whose nom de plume is “labor lawyer” responds to the AP survey–claiming that parents approve of high-stakes testing–with these observations:
Anecdotal evidence (my own conversations over several years with well-educated middle/upper-middle-class parents), the overwhelming majority of parents approve relying, at least in part, on student test scores to evaluate teachers, including to discharge teachers. In these conversations, I argue that high-stakes testing is 1) too unreliable to use for evaluation purposes due to variables impacting test scores that are beyond the teacher’s control, and 2) counterproductive because it has too many adverse side effects (i.e., encouraging cheating, narrowing the curriculum, discouraging teacher-teacher cooperation, and discouraging teachers from accepting assignments in low-SES schools). Usually, my arguments fall on deaf ears.
These conversations suggest — to me — that most parents do not know enough about what goes on in a classroom today (particularly a classroom in a low-SES-area school) to recognize the many variables that can impact student test scores and that the teacher cannot control. Similarly, most parents have not thought enough about high-stakes testing to recognize the adverse side effects it has on education. Unless the parent is him/herself a teacher in a low-SES-area school, the parent does not have sufficient information and has not spent sufficient time thinking about the issue of high-stakes testing to recognize its unreliability and adverse side effects.
If you would have asked me 15 years ago about high-stakes testing, I would probably have said it was a good idea. Since then, I have discussed the issue with family members and close friends who have taught in low-SES-area schools and, since my retirement a few years ago, have followed the high-stakes-testing debate on the blogs. As a result of these discussions and research, I am now strongly opposed to high-stakes testing. However, very few parents/voters (other than low-SES-area teachers) have experienced this level of exposure tot he high-stakes-testing issue.
The main culprit here — in my opinion — is the main stream media that has reported at length on high-stakes testing while devoting virtually no time to in-depth analysis of the problems inherent in high-stakes testing. The main stream media usually quote a sentence or two from a teachers union official regarding the union’s opposition to the testing without presenting or examining the union officials’ underlying arguments. The main stream media then follows the union official’s comments with responding comments from a pro-testing advocate to the effect that the union officials’ are merely trying to protect poorly-performing teachers, leaving the reader/listener with no guidance re which side of the debate has the better arguments.
A second important culprit are the elected officials — city, state, and federal — who have seized on high-stakes testing as an inexpensive and superficially reasonable solution to the problem of poor academic performance in the inner-city public schools. These elected officials are under significant pressure to “do something” about the inner-city schools and are also reluctant/unable to spend much $ on school reform. High-stakes testing is an easy solution to this political problem. So, we’re not likely to see elected officials — who have ready access to the mainstream media — out there attacking high-stakes testing.
A third culprit are union officials (and ed experts generally) who attack high-stakes testing (correctly) but fail to suggest alternative procedures for identifying/improving/discharging poorly-performing teachers. Virtually every parent/voter during his/her own school days or during his/her children’s school days came in contact with one or more teachers who appeared to be performing poorly and who continued doing so, year after year. These parents/voters will reject out-of-hand the argument that there are no poorly-performing teachers and the argument that current methods of teacher evaluation are effectively identifying/removing the poorly-performing teachers.
Bottom line: Unions and ed experts should strongly advocate for peer-review evaluation systems (like that in Montgomery County, MD — a large suburban school system outside DC — that has resulted in the discharge or resignation-in-lieu-of-review of over 500 teachers over 10 years) while continuing to attack the high-stakes testing.

Reblogged this on Labor and Education Insights and commented:
Another labor lawyer (not me I promise) weighs in on the impact of high-stakes testing.
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I would expect that how parents feel about standardized tests has a lot to do with what kind of parents you’re talking to. I assume that the idea of tests that are connected with (1) standards and (2) some kind of “accountability” is appealing to a lot of parents who worry that their children aren’t being taught the same material, or aren’t being taught that material at the same rate, as students in more affluent districts or exclusive private schools. My own anecdotal experience suggests that parents who are college educated and affluent (relatively speaking) are much less likely to back high-stakes testing. They may be fine with tutors and test prep, but only as a way to get an edge on the system. They may be ok with the general idea of standards, but they’re ok with it the same way they’re ok with the idea of universal pre-K — i.e., as something that would benefit other people’s children, by which I mean children of parents who are not educated and affluent.
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Affluent people appear, in my experience, to miss at least two major points.
They often fail to realize that it will not matter if their own children are well-educated by comparison with other Americans. A poorly educated workforce is not only wasting vast amounts of potential talent, it is already dragging down US industry, medicine, technology, and so on. Just look at how many of the best doctors are immigrants. That is a patttern that cannot be sustained indefinitely, and it certainly cannot easily be extended to the factory floor.
They often fail to realize just how little their children have learned, in part because they fail to realize how little they learned. How much in the way of history, or geography, or languages, or mathematics does even a well-educated American know?
Having come from abroad, having taught in a Top Twenty (by US standards) university, having spent time at a couple of Top Ten (by international standards) US university, I have been repeatedly struck by how little the students know, unless it has been taught to them, and how little many of the professors know, outside their special interests.
The matter of students’ knowledge has been confirmed to me by students from other countries — examples from the Cayman Islands, Pakistan and Dubai come to mind, and these are hardly famous for their educational systems. Their peers at US universities are having to learn things that they were taught at 14 or 15. The matter of US professors’ general knowledge, even outside their own subdiscipline, has been confirmed to me by professors from other countries — France, Italy, Poland and Germany come to mind.
If the United States is to improve not only in education but in so many other aspects of life where it stands far behind other rich countries — maternal mortality, poverty, adolescent pregnancy, economic inequality, for example — a major effort to improve education will have to be made. Is that likely?
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I’m moderately confident that the US medical schools can continue indefinitely to admit large numbers of immigrants.
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The problem with the endless reforms is we seem to always want to start over each time. It is much more difficult to determine what is good and what needs changed.
The other problem is we ignore the very people who should be involved in the reform – the teachers. Instead, the classroom is subject to the latest whim of politicians and corporate interests far removed from the reality of education.
Since “A Nation at Risk” the classroom and the teachers have been undermined to the extent that we no longer allow learning to occur replaced with a rote, mechanistic test driven process in the quest to quantify every aspect of teaching.
You place the burden of societies ills on the backs of schools. Shouldn’t we be electing political leaders who create the environment for the schools to thrive?
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I have heard the same indictments. So why are they coming to the U.S. for an education? Years ago my in-laws had a young French woman living with them after her au pair job turned out to be close to indentured servitude. I remember her being surprised that we all couldn’t recite the capitals of every state as well as their main products. (Remember those maps in social studies?) Education to her was a rote process. I believe her education ended when she didn’t qualify for university through entrance (or exit) exams. I am not surprised that these students who came from Pakistan, Dubai, and the Cayman Islands find the general knowledge of their “peers” lacking. I would guess that these particular students come from extremely wealthy families who have had the benefit of top rated educations. The U.S., however inadequately it does it, tries to offer post secondary education to a much broader demographic. I find it interesting that when you compare statistics with other rich countries, you site those that have little to do with our level of education as a cause but rather are related to our worship of unbridled capitalism and our pronounced aversion to “socialism.” I’m tired of such overused propaganda.
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Even educated adults have little time these days to dissect the relationships, and ever-shifting PR campaign that has gone into taking control of public education.
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I agree that the lack of alternative proposals for teacher evaluation is one of the reasons for the success of VAM assessment.
I have long suggested that Peer evaluation might be a good alternative way for teachers to be evaluated and mentored, something like the PAR program in Montgomery County. Teachers know best who is teaching effectively and who is not.
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Yes. If we want to know what makes a good teacher, ask a great teacher.
Teacher-mentors with peer review is the way to go. It is more constructive and less punitive.
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This is reverse engineering.
It is not by cutting out teachers that the situation will improve. It is by improving the quality of the intake and the resources available to them. By the latter, I do not mean technology in the classroom, the supply of which is driven by magical thinking, commercial interests and political Brownie points, rather than by any clear advantage.
How much external testing, prior to the school-leaving exam, do the Finns regard as necessary? None, because they are teaching the kinds of skills that are not addressed by multiple choices. Sixty hours of examinations at the end of a student’s high school career is far more useful to the student. After all, it is the student whose interests are supposed to be served, not those of parents, teachers, and politicians.
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Sixty hours?!? Even the French Bac doesn’t take that long!
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TE:
I posted the same information on an earlier thread that is now pretty unwieldy.
Peer review does make sense as a process so long as it actually leading to changes. Unfortunately, the clearest and least ambiguous indicator that it is actually working is firings of teachers who are not performing or who are unprofessional. If Peer Review is working in Montgomery County then we should see a higher rate of dismissals. Is this actually true?
On the one hand a Michael Winerip article in the NYT reports that 200 poor performing teachers have been removed in Montgomery County and 300 resigned rather than go through the PAR process:
In the 11 years since PAR began, the panels have voted to fire 200 teachers, and 300 more have left rather than go through the PAR process, said Jerry D. Weast, the superintendent of the Montgomery County system, which enrolls 145,000 students, one-third of them from low-income families. In the 10 years before PAR, he said, five teachers were fired. “It took three to five years to build the trust to get PAR in place,” he explained. “Teachers had to see we weren’t playing gotcha.”
There are apparently close to 10,000 teachers in Montgomery County. Dismissing 50 per year seems like progress when compared to 1 every 2 years – but is it enough to demonstrate that the process is really working? I suspect not.
The other data I found suggests that whatever happened early on in terms of improving the quality of teachers is no longer happening. I am not sure who Advocates for Children and Youth are but their March 2010 newsletter indicated that in 2008-9 2 out of 9728 Montgomery County teachers were removed for incompetence. For Maryland as whole, 11 out of 55,990 were dismissed for incompetence.
Click to access Teacher_Dismissal.pdf
So I think Peer Review makes sense. But this type of evaluation system is very hard to implement and sustain. Based on this data, I see no evidence that it is in fact working. This is not to say that the PAR process has not helped teachers where it has been implemented but I would like to see more robust evidence that it is in fact working. I would be interested in more recent data.
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Bernie, you can’t judge the efficacy of an evaluation system by how many teachers were fired. When administrators and teachers work together to support teachers who need help, it is a positive climate for teaching. Ineffective teachers get removed. Under your logic, the best evaluation system would fire all the teachers.
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Diane:
You are being ungenerous in your interpretation of what I wrote. Does a dismissal rate of 0.02% in 2008-9 suggest that a serious effort is being made to raise the quality of teaching? Previously the rate was reported as on average 50 per year or 0.5% per year. That is a rate that hardly registers but at least it moved the needle.
I am not sure what dismissal rate would indicate that a performance review process is helping to raise the quality of a professional staff in a large school system but it certainly has to be in the 1% range, which translates into 100 per year for Montgomery County.
As LaborLawyer points out, the extremely low rate of dismissals constitutes an ongoing problem of credibility for School Districts, Administrators and Unions.
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The Reform movement has won the PR campaign and most parents believe 1) all schools are failing 2) there are many bad teachers 3) high stakes testing will fix the problem. When you talk to parents one on one, most think their own students teacher is good but have a low opinion of all teachers in general.
I had an accounting Prof who always said that it is easy to get rid of the good teachers. When the BS ratio is too high, the best move to better opportunities, the good always have one eye on the door, and you are left with the mediocre.
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I have a mentor I go to when I do not know what to make of a situation. Here is what my mentor had to say about high stakes tests:
you seem to continue to fall into the trap of throwing out all research, data, evidence, and proven relationships between what teachers actually do and what their students actually learn. Yes, when looking at actual teaching, there will be effective and ineffective systems, processes, methods, attitudes, judgments, supervision, funding, and curricula, to name a few. As with all research, there must be carefully controlled measurements of the independent variable AND the dependent variable, and good science will ensure that as many of those intevening and confounding variables are controlled, as possible. You seem to have bought the utterly unscientific notion that such cannot be measured, therefore, they shouldn’t be measured. On what can you possibly base that on other than your very circumscribed (of necessity) experience, amounting to the most unreliable and usually invalid of all evaluation (yes, you are evaluating) procedures: self-report. To me, that is folly.
But, let’s accept your argument, that effective teaching cannot be quantified. Ooops, there go effective teacher education, certification, supervision, administration, funding streams, benefits, salaries, class sizes, curricula, grades, and certainly any believable determination of what any student has learned. There are just as many confounds in the evaluation of these variables as there are in the evaluation of teaching. My problem is that you (and whoever you are reading) appear to want NO standards, leaving everything up to the individual teacher. If that is not your desire or goal, then you will have to realize that there must be some scientific attempt to match method with outcome, or it’s all a farce. I am probably even more dubious about much of so-called “educational research” than you are, for much of it is crap. Some of it is not. I hate to pick just one example, for there are many: take Hunter’s “World Peace and Other 4th Grade Achievements.” He, and those who supervise, pay, and evaluate his teaching, absolutely agree on a modicum of methods, attitudes, judgments, and preparations that appear to be effective. They can be, and have been, measured and documented, repeatedly. And, yes, his students do very well on core and standardized tests, as well.
Yes, teacher evaluation research is fraught with issues and stumbling blocks, just as with almost every other field of human endeavor. Teaching is no better or worse an area for research than almost any other service (yes, teaching is first, last, and always, a service to others). It is more difficult to evaluate, scientifically, than infectious diseases, but not by much, or we wouldn’t be back-tracking on earlier research on things like medical marijuana or heart stents. You drive a car because of scientific research, you vote, go to church, dress, take care of children, because you evaluate people and ideas through some metrics, like it or not. Are those metrics reliable and valid? Mebbe, baby, but don’t bet on it.
So, while I will gladly champion public education, I will always do so in the context of evaluation, funding, curricula, discipline, methods, class size, etc., etc., all of which are variables that have been measured, are being measured, and will continue to be measured, usually (not always) achieving better and more reliable and valid results. Is there only one way to do things? No, of course not? Are all ways to do things o.k.? No, of course not. Then, what are we to do? The efforts by teachers, teacher educators, curriculum writers, administrators to take politics out of these efforts should be commended. However, whatever ways you advocate for teaching MUST be evaluated for process and outcome, or anything goes.
You appear to have latched on to a single issue in a field with a zillion of them. What about those other education-related issues (see above)? Why must research and science take the hit, when the science of education and the teaching/learning process is no better or worse than the science of therapy, drug treatment, behavior analysis, or even childbirth. All are fraught with confounds, but research, by and large, has marched us closer and closer to better ideas and ideals, across all of these areas, including education and teaching. Where it hasn’t, or is politically sensitive, there will be disagreements. The only way to settle such agreements is by scientific evaluation and research, else each teacher can and should go his/her own way, and to hell with standards. You already know that won’t work, for you have formed opinions about how good or bad are some of the teachers you have known/observed, over time. Again, what were your metrics, and how do you know they were valid.
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“And, yes, his students do very well on core and standardized tests, as well.”
Well, of course! He teaches in a gifted program! Honestly, how much credit can he take for his kids’ test scores? Would he get the same results if he taught the average or even remedial kids?
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I am looking for feedback, so thank you Dienne. 🙂
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It is way, way harder to teach in high-poverty and remedial classes and schools than it is in classes for the ‘gifted and talented’ or magnet schools.
Right now, the VAM evaluation methods are not ready to have firing or bonus weights attached to them. I am in favor of research, but this is an area where the powers that be seem to have decided the outcome before the experiment. For o e thing, the test items should be written by actual veteran & competent teachers. There should be explanations of why the year-to-year longitudinal correlations between scores of any given teacher, one year to the next, should be so low. And why, in a city like DC where about 80% of all teachers were hired by the DEformers Henderson and Rhee, it is still the case that teachers in high-poverty, segregated public DC schools get much lower scores, on average, than teachers in higher income schools with more Caucasian students?
This idea should have been field tested for a number of years and the bugs removed. As it is, it reminds me of cult thinking or 5- year plans in the former USSR or yhe Great Keap Forward in china going blindly ahead, disregarding any and all disasters.
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Parents, teachers, and politicians generally misidentify the reasons for which the education of their own children and, if they pay attention, US education more generally are failing.
They each have their own interests and their own beliefs at the forefront of their minds. Reading a recent book by Amanda Ripley might help, if they can set aside their presuppositions and if they have a high level of reading comprehension. Unfortunately, both of these are uncommon in the US, as elsewhere.
Ripley blows away some of the most common excuses for poor US performance — poverty, diversity, expenditure, to name but three..
Poverty — Norway has vastly less poverty than the US. Schools not performing well.
Poland has plenty of poverty. The system has been turned round in ten years.
Diversity — New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine are less diverse than most countries, there’s less poverty, and yet the school results are still low.
Expenditure — Only the few richer countries spend more — Norway, Luxembourg, Switzerland. However, other countries distribute the expenditure and resources according to need. The US distributes the most resources to schools and areas with the least need.
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Amanda Ripley was one of Rhee’s biggest boosters, so I wouldn’t necessarily look at her as an unbiased source. As a retired teacher, I have my biases, but I also can look at statistics. I also went to school abroad for a while and have visited a few others.
On PIRLS, American kids did quite well in comparison with other nations’ kids. does Ripley explain why
Timms and PIRLS data seem so different? Does she have any explanation for the enormous, exponential growth in taking AP courses and passing the exams over the past 50 years?
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StateImpact Ohio with the Cleveland Plain Dealer did an analysis of the Ohio Achievement Tests and found a very strong correlation of poverty to test scores.
The often referred to PISA tests as an indicator “schools are failing” also demonstrated a strong poverty component. Here’s an excellent summary though a bit dated: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-jim-taylor/are-public-education-chic_b_798354.html
Expenditures are trickier. Do you mean nominal U.S. dollars or %GDP? I believe the latter is more comparative but even then we must consider extended services. I cringe at a wiki, but we rank 55th in spending in this comparison: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spending_on_education_(%25_of_GDP)
There are two views to education 1) as a line item cost in a budget, 2) as an investment in the future.
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A particular point on reform. The countries that have managed to change did so in large part by closing down teacher training schools and education departments that were not producing good teachers. Instead of overproducing bad teachers, they made teaching a high status occupation and recruited the best.
Instead of punishing teachers who are overwhelmed with the problems in the most deprived schools, they recruited teachers who could cope and gave them the resources to succeed. Instead of spending billions on classroom technology, they taught mathematics and literacy. Instead of encouraging the most experienced teachers to move to comfortable schools, they gave them the incentives to stay with the problem kids.
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Cites?
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Why has no US state tried to introduce the kind of system that can be shown to work?
Clearly, there are points of resistance — unions are run by senior teachers who want to move to comfortable jobs, school districts are fiercely autonomous, the tax system works to produce bad education, people have many myths about who’s to blame, etc.
However, I would suggest that there is a clear issue of interests — legislators of both parties send their children to the best schools available to them. Their only standard of comparison is with other schools in the state, so they don’t realize that even the best public schools and most private schools are underperforming, by international standards.
Legislators, whatever their emotional and ideological commitments, don’t have any sense of urgency, and their short political cycle gives them too close a horizon to understand the long-term consequences. Only the next election matters, and they justify that by saying that they can only do any good by staying in office.
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David, before your views get hardened, I hope you will read my new book. It will be out on September 17.
Poverty is not an “excuse.” It is a hard reality.
Kids who are sick and homeless don’t do as well in school as kids who have regular medical care and a secure home.
Every nation in the world has an achievement gap between rich and poor.
Read Rothstein and Carnoy. http://www.epi.org/files/2013/EPI-What-do-international-tests-really-show-about-US-student-performance.pdf
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Diane, I have followed your work (and your change of heart) with interest for a long time. I do not disagree with you about the importance of poverty.
I am well aware of the effects of household and locality poverty, of lead poisoning and its long-term after-effects for millions, of inadequate housing with insufficient privacy for studying, of chronic mineral deficiencies, of semi-literate parents and those who are too busy working long hours to spend time with their children, of the deficits in social capital and economic capital which can make it very hard for even bright students to attend college, and so on.
I also know how those and other hurdles have been constructed over the decades since WW2, by such factors as the unequal administration of the GI Bill or the low wage economy.
These should certanly be addressed, but I do not see the political will, the social solidarity with fellow citizens, or the general public comprehension of the scale and significance of these and other problems. Since the Second Red Scare, any talk of social causes of widespread problems and social action to remedy them has been radioactive.
This is true for US liberals and conservatives alike, albeit in slightly different ways. That almost every bad thing that happens is blamed on bad individual choices is hardly surprising in a country where even the slightest tinge of social democratic thinking is denounced as beyond the pale, even by liberals.
Among the chattering classes, no matter how well-intentioned people may be, there is hardly any sustained understanding of what severe poverty looks like from within. How many homes on a public housing estate has the average liberal economist or pundit visited on a regular basis? Even the most compassionate schoolteachers are not to be seen there. The ever-increasing segregation of schools and housing since the 1960s is only one cause of this.
I do see the possibility of making a start with issues that concern mothers and children.
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David H, I look forward to hearing your reaction to my book, where I take on all these issues, both in-school and out-of-school.
We can’t fire our way to excellence.
No other nation has done it, and neither will we.
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I wouldn’t want to trade life in a good, suburban American school for life as a school in Shanghai or Hong Kong or Singapore.
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David: Look into the new Teacher/Principal Evaluation protocols in Washington state. I believe this is what you’re hoping to find.
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In Washington state, the teachers’ union has been a leader in challenging the efficacy of high stakes testing and the use of such student data to evaluate teachers. The union has also been a leader in offering an alternative. Through extensive voluntary efforts and later support of legislation and piloting efforts, Washington state will begin implementation of an alternative, observation based, multi-tiered evaluation protocol this year. We have done both of the tasks suggested by “labor lawyer”.
Our reward for all this effort is to be the target of federal blackmail efforts from the Dept. of Education designed to force us to revamp our evaluation process to include 50% reliance on student growth data. We’ve done our work and will now pay the price.
So, the question comes to mind…. Of what good was doing all that work?
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I must also add that I was never a fan of creating the US Dept of Education, fearing dictatorial controls just like these. And we are dealing with a presidential administration presumed to be friendly and which had union support in 2008 & 2012.
We (meaning NEA and its affiliates) worked hard to elect Jimmy Carter and that led to the creation of the Dept. of Education. Federal intrusion was not seen as dictatorial, as union leaders supported the changes being engineered by DOE. Now that we object to the changes, we must face the music. We are finally faced with the imposition of federal education policy we oppose from the very source that we helped create. I believe that fits a functional definition of “irony”.
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I loved her letter right up until the end. I do agree that high stakes testing is not an appropriate evaluation tool for the reasons she mentioned, however, I disagree with blaming unions for not having effective evaluation procedures in place.
I would suggest that if the word “bad” was defined for teachers, as well as “good”, we could put together an evaluation that would address concerns.
The unions I have been lucky enough to be a part of, have addressed this in their contracts. Unions, just like school districts, want excellent educators in schools and strives to put together a contract that outlines that, such as support services for new teachers, a comprehensive evaluation system that includes support for struggling teachers, and encouraging education and professional development. Teachers have strengths and weaknesses just like anyone else.and a style of teaching that can work for one student might not be so great for another. Just because someone doesn’t like a teacher doesn’t mean that this teacher is a “bad” teacher. I am also sure there are teachers who should not be teaching for whatever reason. That’s why districts with strong unions have in place contracts that spell out how to evaluate teachers so that these teachers can be weeded out. If the district, usually in the form of building administrators follow through with their end, these teachers can either get the help they need or they can be let go.There is typically a probationary period of 2-3 years where a new teacher can be let go for any reason. If the administrators follow through with their observations, they should be able to spot a struggling teacher and invest in assistance for that teacher, or fire them. If they can’t spot a so called “bad” teacher in that amount of time, there is something wrong with their procedures. All “tenure” means is that after that probationary time period is up, there has to be a good work related reason for firing a teacher, and not just because the administrator thinks the teacher is old, as was the case with one teacher I knew. If the parties all do their jobs, this is a fair system that should work. Adding peer review evaluations is something else that could work as at least the people who are observing you have experience in your field and can see best practices in action. I would hope that the 500 teachers in Montgomery County, MD were given a chance to improve their practice before being forced out, although from the sheer size of the number let go, I tend to doubt it.
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Late reply so you may not see, but thanks for this clear description of how teacher evaluation/ probation/tenure has been working in– correct me if I’m wrong– MANY (most?) locations for decades. The public conversation on this topic seems way off base.
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Bernie, a year ago I wrote about the charters in Minneapolis here: https://dianeravitch.net/2012/07/12/about-those-minnesota-charter-schools/
They are more segregated than the Minneapolis public schools.
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Bernie, here is another source for charters in Minneapolis.
Professor Myron Orfield of the University of Minnesota found that they are not only more segregated than the public schools, but they perform worse on tests.
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Dr. Ravitch,
I am not sure why this comment is directed at me and why it is a reply to poster Spanish & French Freelancer’s comment on teacher evaluation, probation, and tenure. Did you mean for the comment to go somewhere else?
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“These parents/voters will reject out-of-hand the argument that there are no poorly-performing teachers”
Has anyone ever made such an argument?
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I recall that being the “point” in a “Strawman Point/Counterpoint” column I read a while back. Another Strawman Point/Counterpoint column began with the point that “Poverty has absolutely nothing to do with educational outcomes.” Obviously, the counterpoints scored decisive victories in both debates.
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“Labor lawyer…” might have some of it right, but mostly wrong. As Chicago develops a “deny them the data” campaign around High Stakes Testings, a growing number of parents are paying attention to the issues — and standing on our side.
It was much more lonely here a decade ago, when we were organizing the resistance in the late 1990s and early 2000s. It was a bit lonely (although we had many more friends by then) 13 years ago when I sat at a meeting of the Chicago Board of Education and listened as they voted to fire me because I had published the CASE tests in Substance (my second job; and without any conflict with my teaching job at Bowen High School).
It was even pretty lonely five years ago, when CORE was getting organized and we were seeing large turnouts against those years’ Chicago school closings. Before Arne Duncan was elevated to Secretary of Education, and his Chicago Boys were just doing their damages here.
It’s time.
Once people focus, they get it.
Most parents are too busy to focus on nonsense like this — until we decide to. That’s unfolding as we share these thoughts.
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