This spoof was reprinted in the blog of the Horace Mann League:
Improving Dentistry (An Metaphor on Teacher Evaluations)
My dentist is great! He sends me reminders so I don’t forget checkups. He uses the latest techniques based on research. He never hurts me, and I have all my teeth, so when I ran into him the other day, I was eager to see if he’d heard about the new state program for measuring the effectiveness of dentists. I knew he’d think it was great.
“Did you hear about the new state program to measure the effectiveness of dentists with their young patients?” I said.
“No,” he said. He didn’t seem too thrilled. “How will they do that?”
“It’s quite simple,” I said. “They will just count the number of cavities each patient has at age 10,14, and 18 and average that to determine a dentist’s rating. Dentists will be rated as Excellent, Good, Average, Below Average, and Unsatisfactory. That way parents will know which are the best dentists. It will also encourage the less effective dentists to get better,” I said. “Poor dentists who don’t improve could lose their licenses to practice.”
“That’s terrible!” he said.
“What? That’s not a good attitude,” I said. “Don’t you think we should try to improve children’s dental health in this state?”
“Sure I do,” he said, “but that’s not a fair way to determine who is practicing good dentistry.”
“Why not?” I said. “It makes perfect sense to me.”
“Well, it’s so obvious,” he said. “Don’t you see that dentists don’t all work with the same clientele; so much depends on things we can’t control? For example,” he said, “I work in a rural area with a high percentage of patients from deprived homes, while some of my colleagues work in upper-middle-class neighborhoods. Many of the parents I work with don’t bring their children to see me until there is some kind of problem and I don’t get to do much preventative work. “Also,” he said, “many of the parents I serve let their kids eat way too much candy from a young age, unlike more educated parents who understand the relationship between sugar and decay. “
“To top it all off,” he added, “so many of my clients have well water which is untreated and has no fluoride in it. Do you have any idea how much difference early use of fluoride can make?”
“It sounds like you’re making excuses,” I said. I couldn’t believe my dentist would be so defensive. He does a great job.
“I am not!” he said. “My best patients are as good as anyone’s, my work is as good as anyone’s, but my average cavity count is going to be higher than a lot of other dentists because I chose to work where I am needed most.”
“Don’t get touchy,” I said.
“Touchy?” he said. His face had turned red, and from the way he was clenching and unclenching his jaws, I was afraid he was going to damage his teeth.
“Try furious. In a system like this, I will end up being rated average, below average or worse. My more educated patients who see these ratings may believe this so-called rating actually is a measure of my ability and proficiency as a dentist. They may leave me, and I’ll be left with only the neediest patients, and my cavity average score will get even worse. On top of that, how will I attract good dental hygienists and other excellent dentists to my practice if it is labeled below average?”
“I think you’re overreacting,” I said. “Complaining, excuse making, and stonewalling won’t improve dental health. I am quoting that from a leading member of the DOC,” I noted.
“What’s the DOC?” he said.
“It’s the Dental Oversight Committee,” I said, ” a group made up of mostly lay persons to make sure dentistry in this state gets improved.”
“Spare me,” he said. “I can’t believe this. Reasonable people won’t buy it,” he said hopefully.
The program sounded reasonable to me, so I asked, “How else would you measure good dentistry?”
“Come watch me work,” he said. “Observe my processes.”
Author Mr. John Tayor, Superintendent, Lancaster Schools, Lancaster, South Carolina
I have seen this around, and agree with it wholeheartedly. I love my dentist, Todd Stoner, as do my children. However, if this kind of dentist evaluation is necessary, bring it on. Fortunately for him, I know how 21st century data collection works, and I won’t pay any attention to it. Perhaps we need to work on statistical literacy in the classroom. Maybe the adults in the community could learn from the children.
Sadly, most people wouldn’t see this as a spoof.
My doctor told me that unfortunately this has infiltrated the medical profession and some health care companies actually rate doctors on their success with patients. Hard to believe.
I’ll be interested to see if my conservative nephew, a dentist who magnanimously serves underprivileged children but home-schools his children, will see the humor in this when I post it on Facebook. I know my niece who teaches in Ohio will!
Great comparison!! The only problem I have with observations is who is doing them. I had a few good principals in the early years of my teaching (I only worked in Title I), who observed and gave me constructive criticism in a good way. The last three principals I had evaluated me and tore me apart. They said rude things and degraded me. They also had favorites, who were allowed to do things I would have never done–like say shut up to students, etc. Perhaps, if we can change the current system of testing, etc., these principals will become better principals or leave the system.
I love this one.
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Don’t forget the dog and pony show part of the eval. Several college grads who have never practiced dentistry and do not have a degree in dentistry, will come in, observe him, and grade his performance, in their infinite wisdom.
Yes. He could make a video for merit pay and send it off to some unknown evaluator who will rate him. This will be a large part of his eval.
And I’d like to make it clear that the comparison doesn’t break down due to the amount of time we spend with our students vs. the time dentists spend with their patients. That is the first thing that someone who doesn’t understand education will notice.
The same dynamic exists – we cannot control what others do, period. It doesn’t matter how much more time I spend with my students per day, per week, or per month. I cannot make them do what they’ve been deprogrammed to do, mostly due to the effects of poverty. There is something about poverty that kills the human spirit and the motivation to learn and understand that things could be better.
Poverty doesn’t exactly kill the motivation to learn. It’s just that people in poverty learn different things. When most of your brain power is devoted to keeping yourself alive and finding your next meal and warding off/getting away from danger, there just simply isn’t much leftover to devote to great literature or the beauty of math. But people living in poverty know an awful lot that those of us with comfortable lives don’t.
You’re correct – it may not exactly “kill” their motivation to learn, but it has a definite effect on outcomes. It is complex, but one thing is for certain. Being poor does not result in excellent outcomes at school.
I may have overstated a bit. Thanks.
One difference between traditional public school teachers and dentists is that a student is assigned to a specific teacher in a specific school by the local government while most people have a choice of dentist. Does this make a difference in comparing the role of government in evaluating the two professions?
No.
Why not?
I think there ought to be a Godwin’s law equivalent for comparisons of teachers to doctors, lawyers, dentists, law enforcement, emergency response, etc. None of the comparisons really make much sense, and as others have pointed out, many health care workers are, in part, evaluated by stuff like whether their patients keep their appointments and take their medicines.
But I think the choice concept is an important one, as is the concept of malpractice. Patients who are directly harmed by an incompetent and/or negligent dentist have a means to pursue redress. Students who are harmed by an incompetent and/or negligent teacher (bear with me, I know there’s really no such thing) don’t.
Sort of like the parent trigger. It can be used by parents in a public school to give their school to a corporation, but it can’t be used by parents in a charter school to return their school to the public sector.
Yes, Tim
There are such things as incompetent teachers.
I don’t recall anyone saying there is no such thing.
And yes, there are means by which to address incompetent teachers. It is a myth (and a rather tiresome one at that) that there are not. There are “big” ways to address big harms, such as reporting the teacher to professional standards and having their license revoked (seen it happen).
There are small ways to address small problems such as exercising your choice and having your child moved to a different teacher’s class (seen that happen plenty), or complaining to the principal to get a grade changed or a time limit extended (everyday thing).
Really when I think about it, the kids at my school have about as much choice of teachers as I have of dentists.
I must choose from one on the list of my rather limited plan.
They must choose form those of us who are at this school.
Technically parents do have a choice. They have a choice of where to buy a home, and they can also apply for transfers, often for little money compared to a private school.
There is NO evidence that school choice improves education, in fact, it is just the opposite. We have kids being transported across town and not showing improvement. In some cases, we have kids walking across towns, past rival gangs and being beaten to death.
Face it, a parent in suburbia has NO reason to want choice. Suburban schools outperformed the world on the 2009 PISA.
Our problem is in the urban areas, and school choice has not shown any promise and why would it? School choice does not suddenly change the motivations and interests of students in urban areas. The students ultimately don’t care about the quality of a teacher or a school, even if their parents do. They care more about survival and learning how to live on the streets.
Oh, for God’s sake.
What do you know about the motivations and interests of students in “urban areas”? When was the last time you were in an “urban area”? Don’t include the time you got off I-75 at the wrong exit and rolled up the windows and locked the doors.
I live in an urban area. What are my kids’ motivations and interests?
While I’m ranting, I’ll note that this may be almost as offensive as Ann Coulter’s statement that, technically, homosexuals have always had the right to marry (a member of the opposite sex):
Sorry, Detroit public-school students. Your parents could have chosen to buy a home in Bloomfield Hills, or Birmingham, or Troy. Technically.
My son greatly benefited by having the ability to take classes outside his assigned public school. Not a suburban student, but a small town (by costal standards) school student. He certainly had a reason to want that choice.
Flerper, how has school choice improved Detroit? Be specific. I honestly think it helped to weaken the area.
I’m not aware that school choice has improved Detroit. I actually don’t think I could name anything that has improved Detroit in my lifetime.
I agree with the fact that many students in urban areas often learn for survival. I teach at a school that is located in an area called “Felony Flats”. I love my job and my students. Several years ago, I was invited to move to the new school in a wealthier area. I turned this position down. I feel I am needed at the school I currently teach. I think I can make a difference in the lives of these students. Maybe this is a pipe dream, but when students return to me from the local high school and tell me they feel I prepared them, it makes me feel like I can make a difference.
Now, if I am penalized because of test scores or API scores, I don’t think it’s very fair, considering I stay, by choice, to try to make a difference in a child’s life. On top of that, may I state that I teach 7th and 8th graders…a very difficult age.
I am getting older and more frustrated when I hear what an easy job I have…working 10 months, 7 hours a day. My own brother gives me a bad time about my “easy” hours. If they only knew how much time I spend grading papers, taking classes, going to conferences to learn about the newest and most outstanding ways to teach, doing research on the internet about new novels and the new National Standards…I think they would think twice about my “easy” job. Sometimes dealing with outside influences is the most difficult thing…family problems, parents who are in jail, students who don’t have enough to eat, students who have to take days off school to watch their baby siblings, etc. I just want to take those students and hug them and tell them it will be okay. I always keep snacks in my room for the hungry ones, make phone calls to parents to find out if I can help, make sure those families have a Thanksgiving basket during the holidays, etc.
Am I really viewed as a “bad” teacher because my students don’t score in the top 80%? If I am, so be it. I am making a difference in the lives of my students.
Choice? It is limited to your health plan
Your health plan is limited to a single dental practice?
Very limited. I have the choice to move to a desirable District. People do have this choice. You act as though it is impossible. There are plenty of places in good districts that are affordable. This is why I believe your argument rings hollow. I know good districts that have low-income places. The students still attend great schools. I really don’t agree with you on this one.
Oh so you have access to more than one dental practice. How do you decide which one to use? Have you considered changing jobs so you can get access to a different dental practice? Perhaps you should move across town or a different town so you could have a different dentist.
Sadly, this metaphor is part of reality for us in OK. Our State Superintendent of PUBLIC Instruction is a dentist…who started a charter school…who was a speech path years ago. Guess how much she knows about public education? Guess how much she cares?
Well they wouldn’t want to hire a qualified individual. The individual might actually block the cronies from getting their due.
I think this version is truncated. There seems to be more to it. See here: http://www.trelease-on-reading.com/no-dentist.html#history
Joe,
It may be truncated. I got it from the Horace Mann League.
Diane
Great post.
I love the analogy.
Specially the points about having many things that effect the outcomes for our students well beyond our control.
My dentist cannot make me brush and floss.
Why should he be punished if I don’t?
What an excellent post.
Love it!
Sadly, I believe privatization of education is modern day slavery……keeping urban students in line in charter schools (plantation), while the corporations (masters) make money off of their product.
Wow.
Could you elaborate? How would modern day slavery differ from old fashioned slavery? Will corporations be able to own people? Will they be able to sell children?
Here is a look at modern slavery:http://www.ted.com/talks/lisa_kristine_glimpses_of_modern_day_slavery.html
Another analogy deserving of a Godwin’s law.
Hey flerper, why did you cite Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, and Troy? You know those are some of the most expensive suburbs to live in. I know that people do not have to move to those districts to get a quality public education. There are many choices in the metro area. There are many districts that a student can attend that don’t have million dollar homes. The schools provide a quality education. If a student has the ability and work ethic they can become anything they want. Apparently parents in Detroit are deciding to move because Detroit’s population has severely declined.
It seems an almost systematic downward spiral!