Thank you for reading the blog.
Thank you for joining what must surely be the liveliest discussion about education issues anywhere on the Web.
I did not know how this blog would evolve when I started it on April 26 last year. Since then, it has had more than 2.7 million page views. So I know it meets a need for a place that welcomes candid exchanges about the issues that concern us all.
This is an unusual platform. It is a place where the voices of educators, parents, and students get a full hearing. It is a place where those who exhibit unusual courage on behalf of public education and freedom of expression are honored. It is a place for the candid exchange of ideas.
I want to share a few thoughts.
Some bloggers post once or twice a week. I post anywhere from six to twenty times every single day.
In other words, I work very hard to provide you with information and discussion from all parts of the nation–and occasionally from other nations as well.
And I expect a lot from you. You get lots of posts from me every day. Some people don’t like that. They have a right not to like it, and if they don’t want all that information they should not subscribe. No one is compelled to read here. You have freedom of choice to stay or go.
I also count on you to correct any errors I make. Sometimes I forget to add the link. A few times I have posted without the title. Sometimes I make typos. You help me by pointing out my errors so I can fix them.
I don’t have all the answers. I often turn to you to get your thoughts. I lean on you for your knowledge. I respect your experience as teachers, students, administrators, parents, and school board members. If we put our heads together, if we listen to one another, if we learn from one another, we can move forward. I believe we are having a national impact. Some posts from this blog have been quoted in the national press.
Because I respect your views and want to hear them, because we need a space to share our ideas, I take offense when people use the comment section to behave in a rude and uncivil manner. I won’t permit it. I also won’t permit anyone to ride a hobbyhorse and bash teachers or any other group. There is unlimited space on the blog for disagreement, but not for prejudice and bile..
Sometimes people ask me how I get so much information from districts across the nation. The short answer is that I depend on the kindness of strangers. Readers send me clippings from their local and state media. I don’t post everything I get but I try to share what I find interesting. And I frequently post your comments. If you sign your name, I include it. If you don’t, then I reprint your words without your name. I understand why many people–especially educators–need anonymity in a time when dissent is not welcome.
Sometimes I get guest posts, and I share them with you.
As I have pointed out in the past, I am the sole moderator of the comments. I read them all. The only ones I block are those that contain obscenities; those that insult me personally (sorry, it’s my space); and those that go on a rant about how Newtown never happened or 9/11 was a U.S. government plot or other nutty themes. I believe in freedom of speech, but I have my limits. This is my living room, and I don’t want rude, uncivil people to dominate the conversation or to insult the host.
This is a site to discuss better education for all. It is a conversation. I thank you for joining the conversation and making it a place where the voices of parents, students, and educators are welcomed with respect.
Let me know what you think. My goal is to let you know you have allies in our shared vision for better education for all. My goal is to provide a forum where we can figure out how to survive the deluge of misguided reforms that are overwhelming our schools. My goal is to support those who are doing the work of society by educating children. My goal is to give you a realistic picture of where we are, what is happening, and why we must continue to work for real change.
I believe that good sense and good ideas will eventually prevail so long as we work together and demonstrate courage on behalf of what’s right, not what’s demanded or imposed by higher powers.
We are everywhere.
Diane

I appreciate your blogs every day! To an educator your blogs are invaluable. If I do not have the time I do not read every one but that does not make their value any less! Keep up this valued advocacy for public education & our nation’s children!
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Well said. Thank you Diane, along with all the other thoughtful contributors, for the work and time you dedicate to this blog.
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I am an advocate for early childhood education and read your blog to better understand what is going on on the elhi world. Thank you for the work you are doing – it is very needed. Sandra Adams
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I appreciate your sharing about your blogging method. I also greatly appreciate your thinking and sharing about topics that are near and dear to my heart as a public school teacher. Yet, it is a bit overwhelming to have so many entries each day in my inbox. Would it be possible to get just one email a day with all the posts combined? Then I could scroll through and read as much as I want to. Thanks again for all you do.
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Proud to be part of your network! A first-class voice for public education and professional educators. Don’t change a thing.
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Thank you for all you do. You’re a hero.
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Diane, I am a lurker and this only my second comment here, but I check your blog every single day. I am a parent who is not comfortable with what is going on but doesn’t know how to get more involved. Thanks for helping people like me get a better understanding of the issues so we can make more informed arguments when needed. I am so glad to have found your work and this blog!
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Find a local Opt Out entity. Get involved there. Talk to other parents.
Technically you hold the power.
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Glad you are here!
Please look into parent groups that are resisting the insane levels of testing and the invasive “data grab” by the corporations of your child’s information.
You do have a lot of power!
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Google Parents Across America, get to their website, read their postings and sign on to their programs (there may be an arm of their group in your neighborhood). There are so many parent groups in existence or forming. As Diane and some bloggers have said, the tide is beginning to turn. The bravery of the boycotting Garfield H.S, teachers is amazing, but the superintendent decided that the testing would go on, & had administrators give the tests.
HOWEVER–a whopping 75% of the students were opted out of the test by their PARENTS. Therefore, the impact needed to stop the test train on its tracks! bookmole, there are MANY with you–you are not alone. In Chicago, THOUSANDS of people–parents and their children, community leaders, are pushing back against school closings. Yes WE can!
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Thank you so much for responding! I will look into each of these suggestions – I feel energized now. We are extremely involved in our children’s schooling and I have logged a crazy number of volunteer hours. Now it is time to take it to the next level!
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What you do informs a lot of people. Not enough, I say! Your energy and passion remind those of us who’ve chosen education as a career that we have an obligation to fight for the children, families, and communities we serve.
If I had rules for my own blog, I’m sure they’d mirror these.
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Yes! Since April you’ve started the liveliest discussion about education issues anywhere.
And we learn from you and your readers without being tested on it afterwards.
This is a model for what we should also want in classrooms – the lively exchange of ideas.
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Diane, I hope you know how much your knowledge and educational background is respected by those of us in education who face the challenges of educating children everyday. More importantly though, I want to thank you for all that you do to keep us informed and provide us with a forum to stay abreast of what’s happening around our nation. I speak from the heart when I tell you that if not for your blog, I don’t know if I would still be in education. Last year I struggled to understand what was happening here in Louisiana and how our legislators could allow our governor to destroy what we have spent years building. It was all happening so quickly and they refused to hear our protests. Then I discovered your blog and realized this was happening in other states also. Having the information, as well as a place to vent and rant, helped me to make the decision to stick it out and fight for my students. So, Thanks again, for helping keep me in education!
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You are an amazing woman and your blog is an incredible source of information. It’s even a bit overwhelming at times, so you know what I do? I just click “delete” and move on. I have my hands full just dealing with the issues that plague Texas, but I’m interested in the information you post about other states as well. I thank you for doing what you’re doing. Saving our public schools is a noble cause, and you, dear woman, are a scholarly saint.
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Thank you for continuing the fight. You help us all get through each and every day by giving us a light of hope. Your voice, your very qualified, admired, passionate voice, is the strongest one out there to defend us. More importantly, to defend our kids. Our students. From my 27 children here,in New York, in a school with close to 90% free and reduced lunch, to the most affluent across the country. You steer this ship Diane. We are following. As my kids would say, “Don’t worry about the haters, they are just jealous”. Seriously though, I feel that we are a community at this site. A community based in a common, righteous goal. Not fueled by money. Not fueled by power. Not fueled by oppression. But fueled by what is right for us as a society, for our children. For our democracy. Stay strong.
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As a public school teacher, and education advocate in Maine I sincerely appreciate all of the information I can get through your posts, and those of your readers. Thank you isn’t enough, but it’s the clearest expression I can find.
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Thank you for setting out the snapshot of how you envision your Blog and why. What has evolved from this beautiful piece of Democracy is for the first time in a very long
time a sense that people can dialog in mass and even be heard. You taped into a long
needed avenue for a broad discussion on the state of education, a forum for trading resources and information, a sense of empowered thinking and creative release, comraderie, power in numbers, power owners listening and taking notice, intelligent written discussion, on and on and on. Feel proud and feel accomplished in your pursuit of truth, honesty, and fairness. Few have been so successful and we who have joined your family in the pursuit of a future for our country and our children send you our grateful support and appreciation.
Most appreciative,
Ronee Groff of New Jersey
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I am highly grateful and appreciative of your work and your blog. Your book “The Death and Life…” was important in many ways. The blog has connected me with people and groups I would not have known of – leading me to create a local Parents Across America chapter. I hope to have the opportunity to say these things to you in person some day.
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Thank Diane.
Hilary
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What you have accomplished is remarkable and essential. Your dedication and stamina are inspiring. There are so few in the mainstream media that can or will represent a fair view of the privatization of our school system. We the people are caught in a whirlwind of propaganda and bad policy created by the greedy and the powerful, and yet you remain steadfast. We are so grateful.
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I’m grateful for all you share with us. I feel I have a home and a safe place here to read and discuss education without repercussion. And, I feel more sane here – that my “wacky” ideas about education are shared by others who are willing to dig deeply and speak up about the injustices in the current atmosphere of ed. reform.
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You are a national treasure!! Keep up the good work. There is so much to be done.
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Do you have an email address where I can send you some material as an attachment? Tks. Eugene T. Buckley Lansing, Michigan
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:15:26 +0000 To: mrpebble1@hotmail.com
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Diane’s email is gardendr@gmail.com
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Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you. I deeply appreciate your blog and your commitment to our profession. I look forward to your posts, check the blog daily, and share many with my pre-service special education students. By showing us how, you’ve given our field the space to confront powerful people with bad ideas. I also enjoy “meeting” several regular commenters and bloggers you link to on the site. When I see their names I make it a point to read their thoughts. Again, I deeply appreciate you.
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You provide more thought provoking information than any other education blog… and apply a slant that is refreshing… and I like the multitude of posts… When I open my email after a day away from the computer and get 35 emails I know that half of them will be from you 😉
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Well written description of your blog.
I check most of the posts, save some, and have distributed the New Yorker article about you (11/19) to our joint school committee. I really like your book as well. You (plus blog) are my primary source for activities and ideas pushing back against the national move towards uniformity and privitization in public education.
Please keep up the good work.
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I appreciate all the posts in my inbox because they remind me not to become complacent -not to just get used to public education going all wrong for our kids and our teachers. Seeing your posts is a reality check and an inspiration for me as I try to navigate supporting my family with my teaching job, using my skills to reach students where they are and help them grow into the kind of people that our nation deserves and needs. I wonder what teachers need to do to get back the respect and trust of the public so that we can use our best experience, knowledge and commitment to make the important decisions about our work? What is it about medical doctors that gives them the trust of the public to make decisions about patient care? In my state they made us take tests to be certified, re-certify with ever more grad credits, get advanced degrees, and now get so “evaluated” that it takes time away from the work itself to show how we are working hard at testing and “results”. We have done all that. What more do they want? Another degree? Bring it on. Can some sociologists help us figure out why we just aren’t getting listened to – believed even though we have jumped through so many hoops already? Is it because so many of us are women and lots of educated, resourceful women are just too easy to push aside, discount when what they say might be painful to hear because it might cost more money? The teachers know, we know and we can do, so lets figure out what is going on and work to get the credibility we need to act in the best interests of our country and its people.
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This is truly a community, a community of individuals who care about democracy, humanity, kindness, and common sense. I feel honored to be inspired by each of you and am so thankful to share in this space. Thank you Diane for offering us a living room to gather each day where respect and civility are still held worthy, and wisdom can be shared.
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well said!
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Any educator, working to research educational topics, MUST visit this blog daily. It’s almost like attending an educational research class online.
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May God bless you! Your blog is great! You blog on all topics with an analysis of the topic. If it is of interest to the reader they may read the attached links for more information. Your blog is exactly what I have been looking for and what everyone interested in the “reform” movement to privatize public education should be involved with. I try to use your blog to inform my colleagues with the current events in the reform movement, they are happening so quickly it is very difficult to keep up with their tactics. I can also appreciate the fact that you occasionally make a “misteak”, it reminds us that you are only human as the rest of us. Again, thank you and God bless.
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I really appreciate the daily coffee klatch in your living room, Diane!
Love all the info and resources you provide, the collegial conversations with like-minded, intelligent people, occasional kerfuffles with the misguided and “reformers,” and the fact that I get to make my own venti caramel macchiato with whole and whip all the while. Very enlightening and invigorating, and, hopefully, world-changing stuff, one laptop at a time!
Hope you enjoyed your mini-vacation. You were missed!
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Ever since I found your blog I have been reading it a lot. Sometimes I get depressed reading it. There are times when I read your blog and I think we have moved two steps forward and then I read it and I feel we have moved three steps back. However I do feel I do get more insight into what is going on in education today and the more information you have on a situation the more power you have to fight it. So thank you for all your hard work and giving all of us a place to share, our hopes, our fears, our ideas, and any information we have to share about education.
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Hi, KB. I do a lot of research and writing on educational reform. I also have an email list that I send to, about 400 educators who rely upon me to keep them informed. I am careful what I send; I try to mix the uplifting with the difficult so that I do not overwhelm my colleagues.
As to my own personal mental upkeep, I purposely step back and pace myself in the reading of so much information. I have to in order not to sink. What complicates the issue for me is that I am a public school teacher who is carrying the extra burden of the nonsense called reform on a daily basis. Most days, I do just fine. Water off of a duck’s back. But some days, like yesterday, the foolishness of the added paperwork burden, of documenting capricious nonsense that will supposedly direct my career, gives me a weight in my soul. So, I step back. I purposely read the uplifting information about teachers fighting back, and about administrators saying no and reformers spending loads of money and losing out anyway.
Like you, I value Diane’s insight. And like you, I appreciate the venue where I might share and be encouraged.
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How can a teacher be added to your email list? Is it the same information that is on your blog?
Thank YOU for all of your hard work which you somehow complete while teaching…..an admirable feat, for sure!
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Linda, the info I email does overlap with my blog but is not exactly the same. I send out information chiefly of interest to louisiana teachers via the email list. Sometimes this info is national news. I am pretty judicious with what I send on this list since I don’t want to overwhelm colleagues with too much mail. I consider what are absolute “must reads” and send these. As such, I send anywhere from three to ten emails per week.
If you would like to be on the list, just send your email address to me at deutsch29@aol.com.
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Thank you so much. Just knowing someone read my comment and cares makes me feel good. Like you I have to step back everynow and then or I get to overwhelmd by everything I read. Thankyou again for your uplifting words.
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My pleasure. 🙂
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kb–Don’t be discouraged–see my comment to bookmole above.
Thanks to Diane and her eye-opening, landmark book–and now this blog–the pro-public school (& pro-teacher) and anti-testing movement has grown ever larger. I taught special ed. for 35 years, & there was always a struggle for services for children. We teachers fought like hell on behalf of those kids and their parents (recited the law to stubborn administrators, filed grievances, spoke out at board meetings, organized parent groups) and, I can say, won out EVERY time, because it was always ALL ABOUT THE KIDS. Truth to power. “Justice, justice thou shalt prevail.” And it will, kb. Work assured.
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Right on and Write on, Diane. Yours is a fair policy and it is YOUR blog. Keep your standards high for all those who enter your space.
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“I also won’t permit anyone to ride a hobbyhorse and bash teachers or any other group.”
With all due respect to being in your living room…your blog DOES bash other groups. The groups that include people who LIKE charter schools, the people who LIKE schools of choice, people who WANT to reform tenure in order to keep the yound and enthusiastic teachers, the people who believe that public education IS NOT giving their children a good education and wanted a better return on their education investment, and the people who think that unions have outlived their usefulness.
I made the comment when I first joined this blog that I happened to think charter schools are a good thing and that my son was proof of that. I got my ears pinned back for that comment by 5-6 people telling me that the only thing charter schools were good for was siphoning off money from public schools, that people who wanted their children out of the public schools because they wanted to home school their children, or send them to a private school to get a better education didn’t know what they were talking about, and other comments about grades not being an indicatino of knowledge, etc.
If this comment gets me banned, then so be it.
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Queenie, you’ll have to excuse the tone. Many of us here are currently decision-makers, or future decision-makers, on behalf of public schooling. While I personally lend an ear to your opinion regarding YOUR son, decisions about YOUR son (that YOU make) have little bearing on where we’ve come from and where we need to go. YOUR son may very well be better off in the charter HE attended, however, even based on the reformer’s mantra (test scores), charter schools have not shown to be successful.
The discussion in this blog is NOT about YOUR son, it is about the millions of children that are part of our public school system – a system that took 100 years to build in order to get to where we are.
You may now like where we are – you may not like that public schools do not hold lotteries, and pick and choose their children, you may not like how public schools do not concentrate on test prep as charters do (although we are now being forced more and more into this approach), and you may not care that charters move to deprofessionalize and deskill our profession, but WE do.
And believe what you may about the condition of public schools, but you are probably “believing” lies. As a scientist, and a science teacher of many decades, I require evidence that an approach is working. Charter schools have not produced that evidence, and, even more, they move against the spirit of public schooling itself with a private school philosophy – that a charter school ought to be run without the democratic process that public schools cherish.
If you were to look at the data, you would notice that NAEP scores are at their highest point in history, the difference in subgroup outcomes on NAEP has improved, our graduation rate has peaked, and if you were to analyze the data on charters, you would recognize that they have not done anything special.
This blog concentrates on a macroscopic view of education, not a case-by-case analysis – that would be impossible for such a social enterprise as education. When I hear case-by-case scenarios, I hear all kinds of illogical argumentation – like charter parents wanting to get away from a certain administrator that made them mad, wanting to escape the philosophy of public schools because we are some liberal outfit that hates the Bible, etc…
If you didn’t like the public school YOUR son was in, you had every right to pay for a private school education. But you do not have the right, and neither does anyone else for that matter, to siphon off resources and funds from your local public school to be used to design a private school with your select crowd.
Charters were designed to improve urban education, and they have not. Yuppies have no right to use that design for form their own schools based on what they want.
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Well said!
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Good Job, ME!
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Perhaps z1queenie was simply confused in thinking her child was part of the “all” when most here consider him an “other”.
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TE,
Don’t tell us or me what I “consider”. You are way off base AGAIN. Speak for yourself.
Your “most here” sounds like YOU PEOPLE.
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Thank you.
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teaching… Who picked YOU to be the judge of my choices? Last I knew, I don’t have anybody with your name in my family. So…according to the rules of the blog…it’s NOT okay to bash on a group, but it is okay to bash on individuals and call them names when they exercise their minds, make up their own choices, and don’t buy into the “group think” exhibited on this blog? Name calling is what LIBERALS do when they can’t handle facts or the truth.
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My post was meant to support your position. The subtitle of this blog is “A site to discuss better education for all”. I was trying to point out that M’s post suggested that your son does not count as one of the “all”.
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Teaching, Then please accept my apologies. I mis-read your posting. Sometimes the fingers get ahead of the brain.
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No worries.
Nancy will be disappointed though.
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Ops, meant Linda
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“As a scientist, and a science teacher of many decades, I require evidence that an approach is working.”
Wait a minute — aren’t you a creationist?
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ME
Because I did not believe the “lies,” I did my own research on public vs private vs charter vs home schooling. I have seen the results of the public school system and have seen what passes for high school “graduates.” I went to a Catholic K-8 school and a public high school. I have been out of high school now for close to 40 years. In those 40 years and have kept an informal tally of the valedictorians/salutatorians in my local high school. The Catholic school students became valedictorians/salutatorians for 30 of those 0 years in my local public school. That is what a good education does.
You mention that you are a science teacher. I taught elementary school, 1st and 2nd grader. I was also a substitute teacher for years. I also worked in the public school system my son attended and saw what kind of education the children were getting first hand and was not impressed.
I did not intend my son and the decision I made for him to be a “case-by-case” statement, I used it as an example of how people on this blog view those who take their children out of traditional public school systems or otherwise do not agree with the pro public education/union cheerleaders on this blog. In my public school district, the ones that “graduate” cannot even read the diplomas they are receiving. And that is not a “lie,” that is a fact. When you cannot read at grade level, you are not prepared to function in the real world where you need a job and need to be able to put words together to form sentences that make sense, and write papers. That is not a “lie” either, it is a fact. When a freshman in college needs $10K of remedial classes to be ready to take basic college courses like English 101, Business 101 and other entry level classes, then there is something wrong with the public education system. That is not a “lie” either, that is a fact.
Not all charter schools are like the ones that people on this blog disparage. The charters in Michigan, the ones that I am familiar with at least, DO take in the special needs children. They DO take the kids who have IEPs and other educational plans in place. They take the children with physical disabilities as well. There are 2 blind children that attend the same charter as my son does and the school does its best to accommodate them and the other special needs children there as well as the public schools that I am familiar with treat theirs.
I dislike the label of “yuppie” and the reference to “my select crowd.” People are labeled because we chose to put our children into a non-public school. You consider people who chose to take their children out of the public school as “my select crowd.” Our children deserve an education that will prepare them for “real life,” not the feel good life that the public schools provide. If putting them into a non-public school is the way to achieve that, then have at it.
If the local public school cannot and will not give our children the education they deserve, then we WILL take them out of the public school. We may not belong to blogs like this, we may not shout it from the rooftops, but we are out there. If public schools are so great, why does throwing more money at them not improve anything? People say…give the education department more money, give the school district more money, more money will help children get a better education.
Where does that money go? It certainly isn’t paying for a better education based on graduation rates vs drop out rates. Maybe it pays to teach to a certain test? Maybe it goes into the union coffers? Show me concrete proof that throwing more money at public education does any good. Nobody knows where the money goes, but it certainly isn’t doing any good to the students when they need to take remedial classes to do college freshman work.
When I ran for school board 2 years ago, it was brought out that one of the other candidates had his children in a private school. When called out on that, he said…”Give me a reason to bring my children back to the public schools and I will bring them back.” I have to give the guy props. He put it out there and he still got elected. Me, I got 20% of the vote so I was happy with my performance. However, I think his children are still in their private school.
Until people like those that subscribe to this blog and others can give myself and other charter/private/home school parents a valid reason for sending our children to a public school, then we might reconsider. Until then, our children will go to non-public schools.
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TE,
Your point or your words must not be very clear because now you are pissing off both sides. I always wonder if you learn anything here or you just keep repeating the same old stuff. I have chosen to ignore you in the past but I am tired of your generalizations. Stop and think once in a while.
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Don’t assume what I am disappointed about. You haven’t a clue. Once again, your assumptions prove how clueless you are.
You can’t even keep names straight. Hopefully you can identify all of your students. Pity them!
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According to the CREDO study, 17% of charter schools perform better than traditional public schools, 37% perform worse and 46% perform about the same.
One would think that anyone concerned about the “failure” of public education would be truly alarmed about the 37% of charters doing even worse than that. A 17% improvement rate does not justify a 37% failure rate, serve the public good or warrant the dismantling of public education.
“Name calling is what” CONSERVATIVES “do when they can’t handle facts or the truth.”
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@Queenie: ” I have been out of high school now for close to 40 years. In those 40 years and have kept an informal tally of the valedictorians/salutatorians in my local high school. The Catholic school students became valedictorians/salutatorians for 30 of those 0 years in my local public school. That is what a good education does.”
No. That is what a difference in family income does. Kids from rich homes have better educational outcomes – we see that even among our own public school population.
Like you, I also attended a private Christian school with an elite crowd. Also, like you, I am from Michigan – specifically Detroit.
Of course our school produced better graduates than our public school counterparts – and our parents also drove much nicer cars.
Wake up. This is exactly what I’m talking about – people who lack information, that simply do not like their public schools because of a personal agenda. Your opinion shouldn’t count because its not about the quality of our schools, or our public school kids, its about YOUR agenda. I know that agenda well – my father shared it as he complained every year about having to pay property taxes.
I have found very few rich people that have the spiritual wherewithal to make decisions for our society. I am from that background, and I know them well. My Daddy paid for all of us to attend an elite, white private school and frowned upon the brown and black kids he had to pay for in order that they receive an education.
Been there, done that. After many decades teaching in a public school, I have seen the light.
@Queenie”You mention that you are a science teacher. I taught elementary school, 1st and 2nd grader. I was also a substitute teacher for years. I also worked in the public school system my son attended and saw what kind of education the children were getting first hand and was not impressed.”
And who are you? Do you have an administration degree? Are you some sort of educational guru to determining what is and what is not a good education?
Have you observed many schools? Are you a trained observer? Surely you’ve observed public schools in the suburbs? Those kids outscored the world on the 2009 PISA. Are these the types of schools you are observing?
I too served as a substitute before taking a full time spot. I’ve also taught in a handful of schools, each for at least 5 years or longer. I have a sufficient sample size, in that I’ve observed many schools many administrators and thousands of teachers.
Our public schools do a find job of educating our kids, other than in the areas where there is abundant poverty. Then schools fail. Or do they?
@Queenie – ” In my public school district, the ones that “graduate” cannot even read the diplomas they are receiving. And that is not a “lie,” that is a fact. When you cannot read at grade level, you are not prepared to function in the real world where you need a job and need to be able to put words together to form sentences that make sense, and write papers. That is not a “lie” either, it is a fact. When a freshman in college needs $10K of remedial classes to be ready to take basic college courses like English 101, Business 101 and other entry level classes, then there is something wrong with the public education system. That is not a “lie” either, that is a fact. ”
And where is this school district? Do you think the kids in Chicago and Detroit care about reading?
NO. They care about eating, clothing, and staying alive. I know – I taught in two Title I schools, where academics were not part of the equation for those students. It was all about survival.
@Queenie – “Not all charter schools are like the ones that people on this blog disparage. The charters in Michigan, the ones that I am familiar with at least, DO take in the special needs children. They DO take the kids who have IEPs and other educational plans in place. They take the children with physical disabilities as well. There are 2 blind children that attend the same charter as my son does and the school does its best to accommodate them and the other special needs children there as well as the public schools that I am familiar with treat theirs.”
That’s probably because all that is offered is Charter schools.
Now, why don’t you pull the data comparing these charters compared to their traditional counterparts?
Guess what? Charters more than likely would not win.
@Queenie – “I dislike the label of “yuppie” and the reference to “my select crowd.” People are labeled because we chose to put our children into a non-public school. You consider people who chose to take their children out of the public school as “my select crowd.” Our children deserve an education that will prepare them for “real life,” not the feel good life that the public schools provide. If putting them into a non-public school is the way to achieve that, then have at it.”
If you do not like the quality of your public schools, then pay for a private school…its what my Daddy did, and it is always an option.
In fact, in the county in which I teach now, you can apply for a transfer in county for free and out of county for $1000. So that choice is also available.
@Queenie – “If public schools are so great, why does throwing more money at them not improve anything?”
Probably because we have an inordinate amount of poor kids.
While your at it, since you attended a private school, as I did, why don’t you look at the cost per pupil of the private school that the reformers send their kids to?
You think 10K a head is high in our public schools? How much does tuition cost at your elite Catholic school, and how much money do they get from their rich donors?
“Where does that money go? It certainly isn’t paying for a better education based on graduation rates vs drop out rates. Maybe it pays to teach to a certain test? Maybe it goes into the union coffers? Show me concrete proof that throwing more money at public education does any good. Nobody knows where the money goes, but it certainly isn’t doing any good to the students when they need to take remedial classes to do college freshman work.”
Unlike private schools, public school expenditures are public record.
Do your homework.
I can assure you, at least where I’m located now, no taxpayer money is funding our teachers’ association.
Teachers pay that in our dues – for protection from people like you – that don’t know the facts other than your facts based on your opinion.
@Queenie – “When I ran for school board 2 years ago, it was brought out that one of the other candidates had his children in a private school. When called out on that, he said…”Give me a reason to bring my children back to the public schools and I will bring them back.” I have to give the guy props. He put it out there and he still got elected. Me, I got 20% of the vote so I was happy with my performance. However, I think his children are still in their private school. ”
Interestingly enough, if the families of the kids in our public schools had the income this guy had, he would be more willing to put his kid back in public schools.
Don’t be dismayed. Our public schools are beset by one of the largest child poverty rates among OECD countries – nearly 25% of our kids come from poverty, and in our urban areas, that proportion is much higher.
If a middle class, or upper class, parent doesn’t like their public school system in the suburbs, you can bet it ain’t because of educational outcomes – its based purely on philosophical differences.
@Queenie – “Until people like those that subscribe to this blog and others can give myself and other charter/private/home school parents a valid reason for sending our children to a public school, then we might reconsider. Until then, our children will go to non-public schools.”
And that is your choice, as it was my Dad’s.
Just quit stealing money from our poor kids to make your own private schools with OUR tax money.
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“‘If public schools are so great, why does throwing more money at them not improve anything?’ Probably because we have an inordinate amount of poor kids.”
I think a far better question is: Why does throwing more money at public schools not reduce class sizes? I live in NYC, and I know the answer as far as NYC schools are concerned. And the answer isn’t because we have an inordinate number of poor students.
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And I live in CT and I know where the money is going…to the top…all the way to the SDE and the corporate scams: chiefs of this and that, literacy coaches (code for common core Stepford trainers), curriculum specialists (more CCSS nonsense), evaluators (to pull off the VAM scam), software and hardware for testing, faux pd for common core indoctrination, management companies for charter chains, expense accounts for newly created SDE bureaucrats….I could go on and on. The bottom line…it is not going to the classroom, teaching and learning. Class size is getting larger…less and less of the added positions or human capital work directly with students.
We now have one lump sum in the CT State budget, $45 million for school improvement. Apparently Malloy thinks it is best for him to not break down this amount.
See here: For example, in the Department of Education portion, a dozen programs that in the current year are set to receive $42.5 million have been swept into a new single line item called “School Improvements.”
http://www.ctmirror.org/story/19055/budget-confusion-permeates-among-legislators
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Linda,
To add to your comment about where the money goes, Hartford spent over one million dollars to by into the Teachscape online evaluation for its teachers so that 25% of any teacher’s evaluation is based on standardized test scores (even though over seventy-five percent of teachers in any one school do NOT teach students who are taking standardized tests in any given year, and that comparing test scores between different student cohorts violates every tenet of statistical research), we are spending far more than that administering MAP testing and taking almost a full quarter of the school year to do so, yet the district cannot afford to buy sufficient textbooks and other resources with which we teach! The overt fraud is amazing, yet no newspaper or news network seems to care. It’s unbelievable!
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Parents in Greenwich or Litchfield would not put up with this. It’s horrible what they are doing to inner-city children in this state.
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That is the Adamowski way . . . target only the disenfranchised minority families in urban areas. They are vulnerable and ripe for plundering. The first urban school system that he devasted was Norwich, CT. He then went after Cincinnati, OH before turning his attention to Hartford, CT. He then got appointed as Special Master to two more urban districts with high minority populations, New London and Windham, CT. He knows very well that the wealthier middle class and upper class districts would never tolerate his actions. In other words, he is practising institutional racism. Wake up people; he MUST be stopped!!!
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I know you will love this if you haven’t read it yet…the great Adafraudski exposed:
Steven J. Adamowski
Steven J. Adamowski, Special Master, Connecticut State Board of Education, formerly served as Superintendent of Schools in Hartford, professor of Education Leadership and Policy Studies at the University of Missouri-St. Louis and as a Senior Fellow for the American Institutes for Research (AIR) in Washington, D.C. Previously, he was the Superintendent of Schools in Cincinnati and the Associate Secretary of Education in Delaware where he was successful in raising student achievement through system reform. Dr. Adamowski’s experience in teacher quality includes reform of teacher compensation and human resources systems and development of alternate routes to certification in urban districts.
Adamowski is a “reformer,” and he is willing to perform reformer sleights-of-truth in order to make his reforms work. Take his plan for the New London Schools in Connecticut: Make all New London Schools into magnet schools. Do it fast. Send some New London students to other schools outside of the district, and bus others in. Test scores will go up. Put a cap on the percentage of minority students allowed, but set a minimum percentage for students who must enroll from outside of the district.
As Connecticut blogger Jonathan Pelto notes:
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Linda,
As you know, I am thoroughly disgusted by what Adamowski did to Hartford. We now have far more functionally illiterate students entering high school than we ever did before he came to our district. As a high school teacher, I am deeply saddened by the fact that we must now teach elementary school skills to high school students. This is due to his policies of allowing students to pass without attending school, allowing students to adavnce through elementary and middle school without ever passing a single course, and putting thugs back into the regular schools by abolishing althernative schools. Thank you, Dr. Adamowski; this YOUR legacy!
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I am interested in your last point. How important to student learning do you think it is to divert “thugs” from schools? How widespread was the practice?
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Prior to Adamowski, Hartford had a tremendous alternative education program into which students were placed who had criminal or juvenile records and continued to be severe behavioral problems.One of Adamowski’s first acts as superintendent was to abolish the alternative school program, placing those students back into the mainstream schools. Although I have no statistics, as a teacher within the system, I have witnessed a huge increase in bullying, thievery, intimidation, student-on-student robberies, and students threatening violence or threatening to kill teachers. In discussing this with police officers who were working in the skills until being removed this year, gang activity has dramatically increased in the schools with the onset of Adamowski’s policy.
Another of Adamowski’s policies was to abolish classroom levelling and mandate full inclusion in every classroom. As a result, we in Hartford have not been able to provide the level of education that every student needs. Students of higher ability are forced to tolerate educational practices that do not enable them to delve into content to the depth they need. I know that there are those who will preach “differentiation in the classroom,” but differentiation will not allow teachers to give the better students the depth they need.
For example, I am Padeia trained. I would love to hold Padeia seminars where the class is given a substantive reading tract to read at home and write a one-page reaction paper and highlight key discussion points within the text, then discuss those points the following day in a seminar setting. This cannot be accomplished if one fifth of a given class does not speak English, another fifth is severely learning disabled, another fifth speaks limited English, another fifth have IEP’s that prevent the teacher from making them speak outloud or otherwise participate in a seminar setting (or include the thug crowd who will intimidate students from full participation), and the final fifth are mainstream students of differing abilities. In other words, I must teach as an elementary school teacher in high school, having different groups based on ability levels within one classroom and not entirely meeting the needs of any one group. It does not work.
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Linda — the money is going to three things: (1) pension contributions; (2) health benefits; and (3) debt service. These are the macro-drivers of almost every municipal budget crisis, including in education. The “corporate scams” are insignificant compared to these. This is why every year overall spending goes up but the operating budget stays flat. And a flat budget means layoffs or “attrition.”
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They have changed and reduced our health plan benefits several times increasing our copay every year. We pay more for everything.
They are cutting eight teaching positions next year and adding FOUR administrators.
We are top heavy and bottom weary and it is not due merely to pensions and health benefits. I am sure there is a plan in the works to screw us on our pension, too.
I advise no one to enter the teaching profession.
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So we should reduce labor costs by creating teacher churn, not offering health plans, any pension and then poof….we will have a better teachers and better schools. Sounds like a great plan.
Teachers in my state do not pay into social security and therefore the employer doesn’t either. If we can only find a way to get rid of all the old, experienced teachers all our problems will be solved. All students will learn. Test scores will soar and poverty will end.
Just wondering are the mayors, governors and political hacks concerned with the pensions and health benefits of the male dominated union groups: police and fireman?
Five years left…..I I don’t drop dead from exhaustion first.
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You’ll be out before me, Linda. (Any interest in volunteering your time in a second grade classroom?) 🙂
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Linda,
You lost me on that “male dominated” rhetoric. Many women are involved as well such as Michelle Rhee and the president of the CT chapter of the AFT.
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Isn’t it interesting how critics of teachers always point to our pensions, as if we have no right to our retirement that we paid into. It’s as if our critics are jealous of what we have EARNED! The state is only supposed to manage the funds; it takes from those funds instead.
Here in CT, WE make the primary donations to our pension fund. We do not pay into Social Security. If we qualify for Social Security by virtue of paying into that system in a previous career, we lose much of that money because of state law. For example, if I have retired from a previous career (as I did), I lose my most social security pension because I went into teaching, even though the teacher retirement system is a state run program and social security is federal. The state thereby cheats us. Therefore, when you criticise our retirement, look at the three fingers pointing back at yourself. How would you like it if we were to reduce your social security?
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Bill — I’m not criticizing teachers, I’m telling you what the drivers of education spending are. These factors are the main reasons why class sizes increase despite higher spending. In states and cities where pensions are seriously underfunded, the pension costs will only get worse. And health care costs for public sector employees are no different than health care costs for private sector employees. They are increasing at very high rates, well beyond economic growth and the tax revenue that funds education. And the longer states and municipalities kick these cans down the road by borrowing, the bigger the debt service becomes. These are almost invariably the big ticket items that are causing classroom-level budget cuts year in and year out. Solutions aren’t simple but as long as people refuse to acknowledge these problems, classroom spending will continue to stagnate or fall.
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flerper,
Until we overcome the huge waste of monies thrown away on such useless things as high-stakes standardized testing and the Teachscape teacher evaluation system, I will not support any of the far-right’s attempts to deny teachers their hard-earned retirement pay. The are billions upon billions of dollars wasted on these forms of graft. I also notice that you did not account for or even mention that teachers pay into their own retirements, and that we are denied our earned social security for those earnings from other jobs or careers. In other words, teachers are already throwing away a huge amount of their earned dollars towards both systems, yet the state will deny us our earnings. What about your own social security? Are you willing to throw that away?
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I’m not suggesting that teachers’ pensions should be seized. I’m just explaining what classroom budgets have been under intense pressure for most of the last decade, and why that will continue to be the case. I’m against high-stakes testing, but it could all be eliminated tomorrow and classroom budgets would still be getting cut every year.
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If we could only get rid of the human capital and replace them with robotic tutors, known as devices…..problem solved. Oh wait….that is the plan.
Demolish the unions, demoralize the teachers, fire as many as possible,mwipe out the middle class and POOF…students will learn, the economy will improve, everyone will have jobs, poverty will end and we can all sing Kumbaya.
Hooray for privatization!
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If we don’t like that plan, we probably should think of another one. Otherwise, it’s more of the same. Look at Illinois. You think mass school closures are happening just because of Rahm Emanuel? You could replace him with a ham sandwich and the sandwich would do the same thing.
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Hmmm? Maybe leaders with a conscience who are not already controlled by the wealthy would make a difference.
If all we have is Rahm or another political hack who dances for the 1% then we are screwed no matter what plan “we” come up with.
Who hasn’t sold their soul to the devil? It is the wild Wild West and the survival of the fittest in the good ole USA….I got mine…you get yours.
Read a succinct synopsis from Jersey Jazzman from his wrap up of the Rhee appearance on The Daily Show: (by the way snow day today in CT so I am not wasting tax payer dollars).
– Poverty is an “in-school” factor, because students bring poverty’s effects with them into their schools. A kid doesn’t just leave his home life outside when he walks through the doors of his school; what happens at home dogs him through his entire day. It mendacious to use a rhetorical trick to separate a child’s home and school life, because the two are so closely interconnected.
So why do Rhee and her ilk insist on making this case every time poverty is brought up? I think the reason is quite clear, even though the squeamish among you usually get very uncomfortable when I say it. But it’s time for some hard, blunt truth:
The focus in teacher quality is a distraction. It is designed to divert attention away from the real causes of our nation’s massive inequality and disgusting childhood poverty rates. The true goal of this argument is to move blame away from the wealthy interests that control this country and place it on teachers.
http://jerseyjazzman.blogspot.com/2013/02/rhee-on-stewart-breakdown-part-iii.html
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“Maybe leaders with a conscience who are not already controlled by the wealthy would make a difference.”
They won’t, because they can’t. The task is on par with eliminating the federal deficit without raising taxes. (And unlike the federal government, states and cities can’t print money.)
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So essentially we are screwed. Great!
At least we agree on one thing: the teacher quality ruse. Have a good day! Hopefully, you are now snowbound.
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We’re screwed unless we can solve the problem by (1) raising substantial new revenue for funding public schools and (2) protecting that revenue from being siphoned off in ways that don’t reduce class sizes. The most direct solution would be to enact legislation that establishes maximum class sizes, with no waivers permitted. It would be very controversial and very expensive, and the cost would probably intensify demands for teacher accountability in some quarters. But I believe it’s the only serious way to go about lowering class sizes.
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Teacher accountability = test scores, so we are back to where we started from.
What about administrative accountability? DOE accountability? Mayoral acccountability?
Teachers do not give teachers due process rights. Someone who taught for less than five years is making that decision these days. Maybe they should be held accountable.
They keep shoving reform after reform, change after change ( before the last change has even been implemented) down our throats and we are the failures?
So edubullies tell us what to do and when it fails, we are the problem?
Why is the teacher the whipping boy for an entire system?
Education may be the only industry in this nation where failure is blamed on the front line workers and not the management.
As long as the teacher is the only one held responsible nothing will improve. In fact it will get worse.
Experienced, knowledgeable, caring, committed, compassionate teachers are leaving in droves. Good luck manning a school with TFA scabs.
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The amount of money it will take to reduce class sizes meaningfully would likely increase the call for “accountability,” however it’s defined. That’s just reality. To the extent “accountability” is defined through the results of standardized testing, I would oppose it.
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Well, no quick fix that’s for sure while the eduvultures circle feigning concern for the poverty stricken brown child.
It is all for the children and the civil right$ i$$ue of our time.
My favorite reformy quotes besides the Murdoch one salivating at the chance to suck millions from the American education system with the help of his friend, the eduimposter Joel Klein:
“The two largest sectors of the U.S. economy – health care and education – are poised to expand and become an even larger share of gross domestic product.”
–Michael Milken, venture capitalist billionaire,
convicted felon for racketeering and securities fraud,
established controversial K12 cyber charter company
CHRIS HEDGES
“Any time hedge fund managers…when they walk into the inner city areas and start talking about poor children’s education, it’s not because they want kids to read and write, it’s because they know that the federal government spends $600B on education and they want it and they’re going to get it.”
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There could be a very quick fix to the problem of rising class sizes. State laws that establish maximum class sizes, with no waivers. I’m not saying it would be easy to pass such laws, but it would absolutely fix that one problem, and quickly.
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Would it be wise to allow exceptions to the maximum class size rule for classes where large scale collaboration is the point to the class? High school orchestra and chorus come to mind, but I am sure there are others as well.
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I’m appointing you to the drafting committee, TE, but I don’t like where this is headed . . .
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I don’t except the appointment. It would be too hard to write a regulation to cover the variety of situations a school might face.
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Accept not except….teachingteacher here.
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Probably wise, TE. The idea doesn’t even fire up teachers.
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You know why Flerper…we are busy working..putting in double our contracted hours, raising our own children and in many circumstances taking care of elderly parents. Maybe when I retire I will call or meet you for advice. However, since an economist and a lawyer know more than we do I guess I will leave the solution to you for now. You are way smarter than the average lowly union thug. By the way I am not known for my diplomacy. Tata!
Thanks for chatting today.
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We as a society need to figure out what we want, what it costs, and tax accordingly. It is clear that we cannot have high quality education in systems that have large classes, nor can we have high quality education without paying reasonable salaries and retirements for teachers.
It seems that the far right wants it both ways . . . high quality education but cut taxes so that we have large classes and few teachers. The reformer’s position seems to be to place students in computerized classrooms that offer low-quality education with few thinking skills.
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I agree that the focus on teacher quality is a distraction, by the way.
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Funny how the lowly unionized teacher is the greatest contributing factor to a child’s success in life (according to the reformy talking points), however, we are simultaneously an economic drain on society while ruining the country. Ironic, eh?
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All I am saying is that we cannot cry wolf about budgetary issues when there is so much political graft and waste in federal, state, and local budgets. The far right cries about pensions while not doing anything to help bring such things as welfare fraud, standardized testing, and other wastes under control. The far right complains about the federal spending but refuses to accept tax increases while reducing fraud.
For example, federal spending under the last Republican president escalated dramatically when Bush cut taxes and increased spending by fighting two very expensive wars. He then implemented the bailout program, bailing out the banks so that the wealthy could have their multi-million dollar end-of-year bonuses. The states are no better; here in CT, instead of managing the teacher’s retirement fund for growth, the state has borrowed against that fund while crying that they could not afford that fund. Also, Governor Roland and Mayor Eddie Perez both went to jail for graft and corruption. Locally, districts cut property taxes then cry fould when there is no money for the schools. You get what you pay for.
Before we even begin to talk about the costs of education, let’s get the billions of wasted and grafted monies under control.
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CT’s pension problems are a great example of a long-term practice of underfunding pensions because it’s politically easier than raising taxes or making contributions with money that otherwise could be used for services (i.e. hiring teachers or cops, paying for their healthcare, investing in infrastructure, etc.)
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Bill and Flerper….please watch when you have time…only 3.5 minutes:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4322638&updatedclip
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Linda,
I would love to see Newt’s response!
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Loved it! Thanks for sharing!
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But, what about the graft and waste? Your dancing around the point!
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Bill — “graft” and “waste” are often nebulous categories that people use as a way to vent their frustration toward inefficiencies in large-scale institutions. For example, the $800 hammer that the Pentagon is reportedly always buying. I’m not saying these things aren’t real (I recall an internal audit showing that the Pentagon actually lost track of some mindblowing sum of money that it may or may not have spent), but they invariably are small potatoes compared with the big ticket items (as with the Pentagon). General accusations that “the 1%” are “stealing” public money don’t do much more for me than diatribes against “welfare moms” in terms of budget analysis. So I would ask what graft, what waste, how many dollars, and within what budgets?
Generally speaking it’s best to look at local education budgets for these discussions. It becomes clear quickly where the dollars are flowing and what the constraints are.
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Cut the human capital (useless teachers); warehouse the assets (children) in large rooms attached to devices and monitor with security guards.
Problem solved for the children of the 99%!
Reform is now complete!
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Let’s see . . . graft and waste, hmmm . . . one excellent example at the federal level could be Dick Cheney, Haliburton, and federal contracts to rebuild Iraq and post-Katrina New Orleans totalling hundreds of billions of dollars (Haliburton could not legally bid for federal contracts due to Dick Cheney having served as CEO until his Vice Presidency), and, locally, Paul Vallas’ numerous no-bid contracts to corporation headed by his friends costing the taxpayers of Bridgeport millions of dollars. At the state level, there are billions upon billions being wasted by state governments nationwide supporting corporate greed within the testing industry to no good purpose. Also, at the state level, tens of millions are wasted in CT alone for welfare and disability fraud, monies that are going to people who can work.
Those are just four obvious examples of graft and waste in government. In an earlier post, you indicated that this money is but a very small percentage compared to the monies spent in retirement funding. We have to start somewhere. Like I said, let’s get this under control before we start taking the retirement benefits of honest, hard-working people.
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“you’re” not “your”
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“Before we even begin to talk about the costs of education, let’s get the billions of wasted and grafted monies under control.”
Waste and graft does not remotely come close to the level of pension costs, healthcare costs, debt costs, not to mention wages. Calling attention to these is the opposite of “crying wolf,” which implies there isn’t any problem. The idea that there is plenty of money in school budgets to lower class sizes, and that the only problem is that there are bad people stealing and wasting that money, is nonsense and is very destructive.
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That is not what I am saying. I am saying that it is a starting point. And, I am saying that, as long as you are talking about teacher’s pensions, let’s talk about all pensions, including yours. Let’s talk about the need to raise taxes when we need to do so. Let’s talk about all sources of revenue.
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Please read, “Yes, We are STUPID in America”. Find out what goes on in rural districts. All we ever hear about is inner city school problems.
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The book and the iuniverse site look like great resources. Thanks, Vicky!
I am in the suburbs of Chicago, looking for another teaching job. The inner city school problems seem immense. It is good to know what happens in rural districts.
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The book and the iuniverse sites look like great resources. Thanks!
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“If you didn’t like the public school YOUR son was in, you had every right to pay for a private school education.”
Not only that. You also had every right to move to another district. You also had every right to marry into a wealthy family, or to become a billionaire on your own. You had the right to do any of these things. What you don’t have the right to do is siphon off resources and funds from your local public school.
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There are a group of political philosophers who argue that the rights you have are those granted to you by the political system. From that point of view, individuals do have the “right” to take the resources from the public school. That discussion is no doubt beyond the scope of this blog, however.
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For that matter, there’s also a group of people who can read the language of state charter laws and who argue that parents do have what ME calls “the right to siphon off resources and funds from their local public school.” So far, to my knowledge, nobody’s convinced a court otherwise.
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Z1,
Are you saying that all enthusiastic teachers are young? Why then do we have a greater than 50% dropout rate of young teachers within the first five years of teaching who cannot handle the stresses associated with maintaining discipline in the classrooms. The literature is quite clear on that; it is the seasoned teachers who have repeatedly proven that they can maintain discipline in the classroom while still effectively planning their courses and each individual class, who can hold students accountable for their learning, and handle the load of keeping (frequently uncaring) parents informed.
I am 59 years old, just earned Teacher of the Year in my school and have NEVER had students who could not pass state standardized tests (as if that were a true measure of success). I have dedicated myself to teaching in a poor, urban district after having served a 24 year career in the US Navy. I have been teaching high school history and social studies for 16 years.
As for your comments about the success of charter schools, you have to realize that the playing field is not level. Many such schools can be selective about whom they will admit, they don’t have to subject their students to the state tests, and they do, in fact, try to syphon public money while denying education to particular groups within the general public (usually based upon such things as race, language barriers, and special education status). Allow the public schools the same playing field and see how different we can be.
However, most of us are not saying that we want to teach selected students. I proudly teach anyone who comes to my class! And, I donate my time to teach music after school because our Adamowski-built district has cut all fine arts from our schools. So, don’t cry about any of us having different opinions from yours about our professions.
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Queenie, it seems we have some things in common. I, too, am from MI, attended a K-8 Catholic school, and a finished up at public high school. I, however, had my best k12 learning experience at the public school. Most of my friends from Detroit Public School have finished college and some of us even have advanced degrees. I did, on the other hand, have a cousin who had a horrible experience with non certified teachers in a charter school. He is still working on those problems today because thes problems were in his foundational years.
I don’t doubt that some charter schools are effective, but I do doubt that they are more effective than comparable public schools, especially considering their budgets tend to be smaller and their teachers less experienced. What I do know is that too many in one area will destroy public schools in that area. What I also know is that my niece, who reads well above her grade level, was receiving an exceptional education in a suburban public school. My sister moved to the city and opted to put her into a charter school. My sister is constantly disappointed by the teacher who admittedly is just there until she finishes her masters and can get a better paying job in the adjacent public schools. These are the situations people here are upset about–the ones that do little to nothing better, even worse.
So, your child is fine, but what will your grandchild have? We are lucky enough to have a right to public education, but how can we protect this right for our grandchildren if we allow the private sector to take it from the public?
At this point, we are letting people with little to no educational background make decisions regarding our children. They have even convinced us that teachers (who likely boast some of the highest numbers for people completing advanced studies in a field) are meandering fools. Really? How logical is it that someone with a Maybe-Bachelors in Who-Knows-What is telling people with Masters and Doctorates in Education, Child Psychology, Child Development, etc. what is good for children, what are effective practices, what children should know and at what age? How good is it to allow money to dictate over knowledge and experience? How logical is that?
Well that is what is happening in several (not all) charter schools and public schools, too. However, this is happening more easily, it seems, in charter schools because they don’t have all the red tape. And it will become easier and easier the more privatized they are allowed to become.
All in all, I think that the best way to fight the charter schools is to “fix” the public schools, but really, what does that mean? How can charter schools better make the education that your child got available to ALL children? These questions are not rhetorical. I am honestly interested to know.
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Diane,
Thank you; for what you do; what you have done; and how you have evolved.
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Diane, I know I sure appreciate you. Thank you.
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I am so happy to have found this blog. I admit I cannot read all the threads, so I pick and choose the ones that speak the most to me. I have learned a lot from reading the comments here and, most importantly, have gained the confidence to speak up against the insanity that I see in education today. Your blog has a ripple effect as we share it with other teachers and parents. Several teachers are now on my email list (I was “discouraged” from forwarding this blog to the entire staff at my school), and I know some of them forward those emails to others. It’s exciting to see these ripples merging into a wave.
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Good metaphor Lehrer!
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I have sent threads the various colleagues but usually home emails. I will be forever grateful for Diane, this blog and all of you.
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Fran
I am deeply appreciative of the information and discussion on your blog.In the midst of all that is happening in our profession. Your comments as well as those of others on your blog validate my beliefs and some days, preserve my sanity.. I have followed you and your work for more than 35 years since my early days of teaching. Now, as a superintendent, determined to uphold the integrity of what I believe to be best practice in education, your blog is invaluable.
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Diane, THANK YOU!
I have been disappointed in finding out how pervasive so many issues are, but I have found comfort that my problems are not unique. I recently quit in the middle of the school year after finding no support for what I needed to teach and too many obstacles and demands. Now looking for a position, there are so many charter schools or undesirable jobs. I am grateful for the sharing of ideas, your blog, and you, a gracious host and moderator.
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What an honor it is to be invited, each day, into the living room of the brilliant, mindful, deeply learned Dr. Ravitch who must be the hardest-working blogger in the United States. And to hear these voices from teachers and administrators around the country is irreplaceable! There’s a grassroots movement underway to put teachers back in control of education, and this blog is its intellectual and moral center. Thank you, Dr. Ravitch!
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I can’t thank you enough for the timely and thoughtful entries on your blog, Diane. The attack on public education is an attack on our democratic values. If people want to send their children to private schools, then let them finance it themselves. Indiana is in the process of allowing public monies to finance private corporatised schools. How will that make us a better democracy?
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I am sometimes disappointed in the news but find comfort that my situation and perspectives are not unique. I recently left a hostile teaching environment in the middle of the year and am looking for a better job. Thank you for this sharing of ideas!
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You mean a lot to so many, including me. I was sure when I first got your blog that you had a graduate student helping you. I am amazed at your energy and your dedication.
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As far as I’m concerned, your blog is the most important spot on the Internet. You are the heart of the resistance to the Genghis Khan corporate invasion. I am thrilled when I see 20 posts on one day. You are at command center and make it possible for us all to hear each other.
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Diane,
If not you….who? Your work is needed and appreciated, more than you can imagine.
JP
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Thank you!
Keep blogging!
My family has been voting against vouchers since I was a little girl. As a teacher, I am not against charter schools as much as I am against public school closures and vouchers. I also dislike how some charters treat the teachers and students, but I should climb off my soapbox. This is your blog.
Thanks again! Love it!
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Diane, Thank you for giving us this forum to learn, discuss, and analyze what is happening in education today. Most of what I know about the reform movement, I learned right here. Thanks for caring enough to post multiple times a day. You are an inspiration and a wonderful support to all of us who want to truly improve our nation’s schools.
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Thank you for your leadership.
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Diane, we need your voice. We get too much of the other side because it’s so well funded. At least you are speaking for educators and you are well known and get the word out there. I support you and this blog so please keep going. I’m hopeful for change even if it starts on a small scale like individual schools.
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Thank you Diane for your tireless leadership. You are an inspiration to me, both personally and professionally! You have become a voice for so many throughout our nation. I am enamored by your example. I have hope that change is underway to recapture the imagination of the best that we can offer to our children and grandchildren though our public school systems. Your blog and your work is so much a part of this change.
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I appreciate your voice in the midst of the insanity rollercoaster that education is on right now.
Sometimes the mixed messages overwhelm me, and I am unable to see anything but an apocalyptic future.
And then I read your blog. It helps. I gives me some perspective, and reminds me why I came to this profession.
Thank you, Diane.
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Dr. Ravitch, Thank you for this forum and your rules of civility and rational discourse that keep the discussions productive and on track. I am so grateful for this blog. I feel your posts and the comments of so many readers have provided me with both an analysis of what is going on and strategies for responding. Equally as important is the sense of community and solidarity that has developed. Please know that your hard work is profoundly appreciated.
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Thank you for educating me on education matters in NYC and across the country. I truly appreciate all that you have shared.
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Diane,
Thank you for all you do on behalf of children. I give away copies of Late Great and Language Police to parents and am eagerly awaiting your next book. I read all your posts and often go to the linked items. I print them out and share them. Keep up the work for good.
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Dianne,
Keep up the great work!
You are doing a great service for public education activists and advocates.
The perspectives and information you share helps us be more effective as we reach out to others to build the movement to save public education from the corporate reformers.
I am a member of Metro Atlantans for Public Schools, EmpowerED Georgia, South Fulton Retired Educators and the Georgia Retired Educators Association.
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Diane, thank you. I love ALL the posts. I frequently share with my colleagues at work as we are in the midst of the APPR/Common Core maelstrom. Keep up the great work!
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Great blog! I like the clean and concise format. So many great ideas, so little time to read them all.
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I look forward to reading your blog posts every day and get excited when my email has another. You seem to be the only sincere voice in support of public education. As a parent and a teacher, I thank you.
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The responses to this posting have been overwhelmingly positive and supportive. As they should be. Think about the dozens of paid staffers who amplify the voices and efforts of Michelle Rhee, Wendy Kopp, Arne Duncan, and the rest of the leading charterites/privatizers. Not to mention the mass media [with few exceptions] who provide giant megaphones to the edupreneurs and their allies.
Michelle Rhee once sneeringly remarked that “cooperation, collaboration and consensus-building are way overrated.” Diane gives the lie to that statement. While this is her blog, she had opened it up to, well, she now has almost 2,800,000 views. Just since April 26, 2012. Without disputing her claim on this website, in some ways I feel that it has become the blog of a huge segment of the public that has been denied a voice in a critical discussion. Now many, without being paid or coerced, contribute to this blog.
A few words, in all sincerity and without any negative feeling: for those who don’t like the tone or topics or rules of this blog, you don’t have to view or visit or subscribe to Diane Ravitch’s blog “A site to discuss better education for all.” You have a multitude of choices. The world wide web is a pretty big place; you can easily find other sites in which you will find your POVs supported and validated.
Do people sometimes get their backs up on this blog? Any discussion that involves children, our deepest ideals, the destruction of an entire profession and countless careers, and social equality/inequality is going to get sharp, at least once in a while. That’s called democracy. IMHO, it makes us stronger, not weaker.
A personal bit. Ever try to talk to someone about for-profit standardized testing? The only word people hear at first is “testing.” They simply can’t believe that I am opposed to students being tested at all! About anything! I must be a horrible person because I want them to go out into the world without having to strive and work and learn to overcome obstacles!
Getting on the same wavelength [forget about coming to some sort of agreement] is hard work. Effective and meaningful dialogue isn’t a given. Anyone besides me notice that this blog isn’t subtitled “A site to discuss better education for all as long as it doesn’t take any time or effort or patience”?
I add my thanks to all those who have commended Diane creating this space in cyberspace for so many viewers and posters.
As many of the students I worked with would have said: Props, Krazy Ms. Diane. You da bomb.
🙂
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I think testing is definitely overrated. So are grades. One thing I teach is writing. Give a young person’s piece a grade and the discussion is over. Give him or her a lot of written or face-to-face feedback…then the fun begins!
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Hi Diane, I ready your posts daily. Thank you for all of your efforts to provide the kind of transparency–and accountability–around education reform that all of us involved in education need to be apprised of. Your efforts demonstrate an unwavering commitment to uncovering the truth as well as your true commitment to students. Thank you Diane!
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Diane, we love and lok forward to reading your posts; please keep up the god fight.
In addition, I was wondering if you read the commentary from Eric Hanushek in Education Week entitled, “Why Educators’ Wages must be Revamped Now”, published online February 5th and in print February 6th. I am already composing a response, but would love your input.
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Once again you have verified why I listen to you. Your blog is a genuine labor of love and intellect. Since reading your Great American School System, I have committed myself to reestablishing the principles that grounded American education when we went to school. I sit on my local school board now and am more and more convinced that local control and limited testing must be sustained. Many thanks for providing me the research to support such views. Your energy level truly amazes me!
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Thank you, Nancy, for having the stamina and persistence to run for your local school board. What you do is very important for our democracy.
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We are grateful to you every single day. Your passion fuels us. You mustn’t stop and we mustn’t give up until wisdom is restored and educators are put back in charge of education.
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Thank you Diane, for all you do. For being a voice for the people in the trenches, for recognizing the public school as a sacred place in our communities, and most importantly, for fighting for what is best for our children.
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I support all that you do and your policies for the blog as well. I keep coming back to this as one of the best descriptions of the context of the attack on education (and everything else) that is our commons. http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/13998-the-new-extremism-and-politics-of-distraction-in-the-age-of-austerity
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My deepest thanks to you, Diane, for keeping us informed. Each and every day, your online work connects thousands of people to each other. Whether your visitors read everything you post, or just a portion, many have arrived at your website because they recognize that their public schools are under attack and that a great deal of damage is being done.
It is here where they’ve been able to learn that they are not alone with what they are experiencing in their communities. It is here where they are helped to understand the exact manner in which a permanent and massive structural change is being imposed on our nation that is driven by a small number of extraordinarily wealthy and powerful people.
Your website has become the central place where Americans can go for complete information about the efforts to privatize this nation’s public education system. The fact that you’ve collected over 2.7 million page views just since last April demonstrates that many citizens have an interest in learning about this menace. And the more who learn, the more who will fight it!
Best wishes for 2.7 million more.
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Thank you Diane,
This blog has been an inspiration. Thank you so much for your hard work and dedication.
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I only recently subscribed to your blog and I am fascinated and grateful for the amount of information and thought and consideration reported here – it is admirable and inspiring. No wonder there are millions of views – we come here for truth and inspiration and energy and your wise, articulate and passionate point of view – for education – for our children. Thank you.
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Diane–everlasting thanks to you for consistently speaking the well-researched truth.
Because, as an insider, you KNEW NCLB and, further, as a respected (if not the most highly regarded) educational historian in America, you–and you alone–have been able to legitimize all of the fear and anxiety older students, parents, teachers, administrators and communities have on behalf of the preservation of public education.
Only you were the one to say, “I was wrong,” do a 180, and write a book that started the movement to reverse the doomsday clock. There are no words of thanks that are adequate. I cannot wait to read your next book which, hopefully, will lead all of us to the final, successful movement to end privatization once and for all.
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I deeply appreciate all the work you go to. Thank you. I notice mistakes here and there, but they are unimportant. The ideas, facts, trends and results you bring me and the rest of us are enlightening. I wish I could read every one of the posts. I read what I can, and I send some of the posts along to my children, two of whom are teachers, and all of whom have children. Thank you again, Diane.
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Thank you for providing a forum to discuss the issues.
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Your posts have provided me with information I might otherwise have missed. I appreciate the effort and work it takes to post so frequently each day. I believe your efforts are educating parents, students, teachers, and community members about the educational issues and supposed solutions. Please continue your work.
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You are making an enormous contribution, Diane. I follow your blog via rss feed because I don’t want to miss a single one of your posts.
The corporate media, and many or most in government, are in the thrall of the corporate privatizers, so your honest, clarion, incredibly knowledgeable voice is…. priceless.
On behalf of all of the schoolchildren in this country, I thank you.
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Thank you Diane. I am retired but keep up with education as much as I can. Your blog has been the glue that has held me together through some terrible years both personally and politically. You give me hope that we can turn this nonsense around. I hope you never stop until we’re done — and then of course there will be something new to fight for I am sure!!
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Diane,
I have been a dedicated fan of yours since I read your history of the New York Public Schools. You have done public education a great service throughout your professional life. I look forward to your blogs and appreciate your efforts to keep us all informed.
Whatever mistakes there are are minimal in comparison to the service you provide.
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This blog gives me hope, not just for public education, but for a renewal of real democracy In the United States. It has plugged me into a whole community of people who are concerned about how our country has morphed into an oligarchy that feeds a market view of life. What an ugly way to live! I can’t say I have ever had warm feelings thinking about my life as a profit and loss statement. I was a fierce protector of my students, many of whom fell into someone’s loss column. We cannot let the “reformers” win. Thank you for making us a community.
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Thank you for sorting through this information for all of us. It really is a place for educators and those interested in public education to come together. I appreciate that you have elected to keep the tone respectful.
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My son texted me last year when you were interviewed about your book “The Death and Life of the Great American School System.” He said, “Mom, you have to get this book, she talks just like you.” At the time, I was a burned-out high school teacher who has found renewal by teaching at the university level. It has been refreshing to read and hear from an educator/professional of your stature and experience who respects and advocates for teachers, and understands what damage has been caused by this addiction we have for high-stakes testing. Don’t ever feel you have to apologize for a few typos. Thank you so much for saying what needs to be said. I will always be reading and learning from this blog.
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I DEPEND on your blog to navigate what I consider to be THE civil rights issue of our time. It has become my primary source of “breaking news” in the Ed de-form community. Through your blog I have gained information, historical perspective, I’ve met humorists (Jersey Jazzman, Ed Schyster), detailed statistics (Brandenburg) and courageous superintendents on your Honor Roll. Your energy, compassion and generosity have inspired me. I don’t know how you do so much every day sans entourage. I always cite your blog when it comes up on my blog, “Yo Miz,” (in which I attempt to cast my posts in the spirit of The Daily Show.)
I am still working on my book, (working title, “Yo Miz”), my adventures as an ATR rotating through 25 Manhattan high schools, while performing my one woman musical comedy at The Cherry Lane Theatre last year. When I write, I feel so exposed and yet , I feel “called” to tell these stories. I think anyone who attempts to tell their truth in public forum like your blog, for example, faces criticism, crazies and cursing. To continue to do so requires courage and tenacity, and I believe you have a healthy supply of both.
Anyway, I am so glad (and not at all surprised) that the comments you are receiving thus far show how respected and admired you are and how many people’s lives you have affected. Before I started reading your blog, I had no idea there such a large community existed. You a much more than an educator. Your blog is a VITAL source of information and you are a leader of our movement which is simply set on restoring sanity…and defending American public education. I believe you deserve a great deal of credit for helping this community to identify each other. Your blog takes away the isolation. We are growing in numbers, our collective voice is getting louder and certain policy makers are beginning to listen.
So thanks:)
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I so appreciate your blog. The situation is so dire, it’s heartening to feel part of a community.
Beth
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Diane, you have introduced me to Carol Burris, Jersey Jazzman, edushyster, Gary Rubenstein, NYCEducator Arthur Goldstein – and good old Katie O – this blog, and the links to other writings have been a lifeline to me. I love my kids, I love what I do, and am very committed to teaching in public schools, but often find myself slogging along and buried under jargon and bundles (I work in NYCDOE) I have thought of quitting a few times, but when I read the great stuff on here, I feel less alone and more committed to stay and fight. Keep it coming, I need to “hear” you to stay and fight. Thanks, all.
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Dr. Ravitch,
Because of your willingness to expose so much, I have gotten the courage to write a blog specifically to the impact these policies are having on literacy practice. Thank you for all you are doing!!
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Thank you for all you do. You give me hope that things will change.
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Thank you, Diane. I have taught in Title 1 public middle schools for 20 years. The current reforms and the way they play out in the day-to-day demands on me as an educator, my relationship with my students, and the education I am asked to provide are demoralizing and on occasion reduce me to tears. Knowing that others across the country feel the same way and are fighting for change provides hope that the pendulum will swing in the other direction sooner rather than later and helps me find the strength to carry on.
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Your blog is invaluable. I don’t know how you manage to do so much but know how much your efforts are appreciated and shared by your readers. Thank you.
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Diane,
Thank you for this informative, thought provoking blog. I heard you speak a few years ago at the Florida School Boards Association conference in Tampa and was encouraged to hear “real talk” about the challenges faced by public education. Board members are being forced into compliance by the threat of losing funding to an already reduced budget. Uninformed, agenda driven legislators are harming children in their quest for a business solution to a very complex problem. There is no magic bullet, yet many believe high stakes testing and privatizing education are the answer. It is easier to blame teachers and polarize communities than to work towards solutions that benefit ALL learners. Thanks for what you are doing to bring awareness to the issues public schools are facing throughout the country.
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The number of posts get a little overwhelming at times and I sometimes have to pick and choose what I read. But there is so much information out there that those interested or involved in Education need to know that I can see why you do so much. I hope you run for public office. It would be interesting to see huge numbers of posts about what the government is doing. Arne Duncan’s position would be good for you. Shame he is not elected.
Please put on your posts how to send you articles. I would like to send you things about Bobby Jindal’s mess from the local papers but don’t know how.
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Diane:
Yours is a blog that I look to each day for information, stories of hope, and connections to other educators. I so appreciate your hard work. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
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I wonder if you would be interested in learning what is happening in Hawaii? This is just a taste, and something that got my goat this week. I think it goes to show that ominous forces are connecting us all throughout the nation. This is my blog. http://dianehsta.blogspot.com/
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You are, indeed, serving a very special place during an incredible historical moment for public education in America. My suggestion: continue, continue, continue.
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To Bill.
I think Newt was looking for an escape plan or maybe he wished he had just taken Callista jewelry shopping. Watch his face at the end….he looks shell shocked.
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I became a fan during my M.Ed. program when I read your book “The Language Police”. I remained a fan throughout my Ed.D. and can honestly say that you inspired my beliefs about social justice in education. You made sense out of what I felt about education after teaching students living in a very poor socio-economic area who had to deal with negative stereotypes about their abilities to succeed. I’ve always aspired to be an advocate for those students. Without sounding too much like a sycophant, you are a role model for anyone who believes that equal access to a quality public education is the backbone of our society.
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Thank you, Michele, I will consider that my valentine for the day!
Diane
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Yes, you post a lot…and I get behind a lot (you can tell, as I’m just now commenting on this post). BUT…I think you and your blog have saved me.
After 25 years of teaching I was looking around me and thinking, “This is wrong. This is all wrong.” I thought it was me. I thought I’d lost touch. I thought I was reaching the point that, sadly, I’ve seen colleagues reach where they’re mentally drained and pretty dysfunctional in the classroom. But yet I was still liking my kids, and they were learning, and they still liked me. What was happening in my classroom was as enjoyable and productive as ever, but outside those walls was insanity. The jargon, the mandates, the crazy theories, and the lack of common sense…
Then I ran across your blog. I started reading…and thinking…”oh my god, I’m not alone,”
I gain power from you, your blog, and the people who comment every day.
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