On January 20, I published a post by a teacher who asked about how to deal with the heterogeneity of the student population. She said that charters appealed to parents who wanted less heterogeneity.
Here is an excerpt:
“We complain that charters are skimming the top, we have to take all comers and we can’t cherrypick; we can’t dump the least school ready students. We wear it as a badge of honor; we’re a force for egalitarian education for all. We’re a place where all children come together to learn. Well, that’s great.”BUT… a parent who wants to limit negative influences or increase challenge of instruction may not care about the general mission if the impact of that mission upon their child is negative. I’m not sure we can stem the tide of charters when we use middle class children as social equalizers and consider the annual limitation upon their achievement and growth as an acceptable loss. That’s an insufficient mission. This makes public school less desirable for parents who have prepared, able children.”
I sent a copy of the post to Jeannie Oakes, who is one of the nation’s leading experts on the subject of tracking, and I asked her to comment.
Here is her response.
Diane,
I’d like to weigh in on the post laying out concerns about the relationship between heterogeneous grouping and the appeal of charter schools to parents of high achievers. In particular, I was struck by two points the poster made:
One, he/she identifies a key source of resistance to heterogeneous grouping:
“BUT… a parent who wants to limit negative influences or increase challenge of instruction may not care about the general mission if the impact of that mission upon their child is negative.”
Then, later, he/she identifies students who benefit from heterogeneous or homogeneous grouping, based on his or her personal experiences and reading:
“However, it is also my experience that the lowest skill level student makes no progress in a heterogeneous setting and would benefit more from a homogeneous, small class with more focused and direct instruction. It is my experience that the middle top and top does not receive academic benefit from heterogeneous instruction. I don’t know of any study of heterogeneous grouping that shows a positive academic impact on above average students.”
In fact, studies do show benefits of heterogeneity for all “levels” of students, as many high-quality reviews of the literature conclude. But this is not to say that simply mixing up students in a class will work well; neither will experimenting with one or a few heterogeneous classes in an whole-school environment that is otherwise heavily tracked. Many studies showing “no benefits” have looked only at students in single classes or over limited time or without accounting for important instructional, learning, and school climate variables. Furthermore, unsuccessful attempts to achieve heterogeneity or “de-tracking” do not necessarily reflect on teachers’ competence, work ethic, or good will; but successful detracking does require training, resources, and a network of supports. One study, for example, examined practices and outcomes at a network of “Talent Development” middle and senior high schools in urban Philadelphia. These schools offered a rich, academic curriculum (such as great literature), provided ample opportunities for students to assist one another, and used authentic assessments in heterogeneous classrooms. Their middle-school students showed significantly higher achievement gains than did tracked students in comparable “control” schools with lowest- and highest-performing students making considerable gains.
However, the conflicts over tracking and heterogeneous grouping involve more than straightforward/empirical determinations of the “best” or most efficient way to conduct schooling. In this sense the contentious arguments bear some similarity to other current social issues that reflect broader views of what constitutes a good society (gun violence; climate change; income gaps; and a long list of equity challenges—racial, gender, disability, sexual orientation, age; and others come to mind.) Each of these disputes has aspects that are normative (involving culture, beliefs, and values,) technical (best practices and laws,) and political (the power to impose or preserve practices.) Unless all three dimensions—norms, practices, and politics—are exposed and addressed in our civic discourse, we won’t see much fundamental improvement (a “better,” more caring populace; practical, efficacious school practices that promote achievement; and a more democratic and just society.)
The post suggests a conflict between a “general mission” and benefits to parents’ own children—perhaps seeing the two as incompatible. Another perspective, one that I hold, is that everybody loses if the common good is neglected in the pursuit of individual gain; and widespread scholarship supports, even if it doesn’t “prove,” this perspective. Still, as with other great issues of our time, data (however important) do not provide clear pathways through the fog of conflicting norms and power arrangements. Data do not produce the will to enact gun controls; empirical evidence does not settle citizenship options for immigrants; popular sentiments (even elections) are slow to ensure civil liberties. Yet data are crucial and must not be dismissed because of false equivalences; for example, saying that because data “exist” on both sides, both sides are equally reliable and therefore one, the other, or neither conclusion has value. More to the point, arguments for or against heterogeneous classes cannot be decided simply on the basis of which one wins the race for highest standardized test scores.
So we have no easy answers for parents who are eager to negotiate, through tracking, some perceived advantage for their children: many people believe that that’s a parent’s job. It’s not for us to tell a parent to reject a rare better schooling option in favor of a lesser one. But all are diminished by systems that force us into making such choices. Further, we can hardly fault teachers who work very hard at becoming accomplished at what the school wants them to do. But we’d ask those teachers and parents to consider that they can both do their very best within the system and work to change the system. Finally, as with all contested aspects of social life, our advice is to identify your own and others’ deeply held values and beliefs and decide where you want to go with them, determine who has power and who benefits from its use, and then as Eleanor Roosevelt said many years ago, “You must do the thing you think you cannot do.”
Regards,
Jeannie
Jeannie Oakes, Presidential Professor Emerita, UCLA
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Over the past four years the high school I teach in has gone to heterogeneous grouping. I teach Language Arts to what used to be College Prep, mid-level and basic skills students. I am adjusting and see it as an overall good thing. My concern however, is that we still have Honors level Language Arts. Why is heterogeneous grouping good for everyone except the Honors level? As a result parents have been pushing their children into Honors level who really don’t belong there to get them out of “CP” classes and the perceived bad influences, distractions, etc. there. I’m guessing that they don’t push heterogeneous grouping for all because the parent backlash would be too great. A more cynical view would be that they are preparing for a more stratified working class and elite class system (for lack of better terms).
An interesting topic and perspective. Jeannie wrote it part, ” It’s not for us to tell a parent to reject a rare better schooling option in favor of a lesser one. But all are diminished by systems that force us into making such choices.”
Perhaps it’s not just a question of one choice being better, and another worse, for all. For example, one youngster might do better in a Montessori public school. Another might do better in a more traditional school.
Also, is Jeannie suggesting it is better for a system to offer NO options?
I think that what Jeannie is saying is encapsulated in her final paragraph…
“Finally, as with all contested aspects of social life, our advice is to identify your own and others’ deeply held values and beliefs and decide where you want to go with them, determine who has power and who benefits from its use, and then as Eleanor Roosevelt said many years ago, “You must do the thing you think you cannot do.” ”
To paraphrase, look into your heart, see who benefits from tracking and who loses, and then imagine and work toward a system in which all student benefit, rather than one that has winners and losers.
It can be done. You can have a successful detracked school that challenges all students, even the highly proficient. It is not easy, but it is possible and the rewards are great. Success truly can be a bountiful harvest.
“Imagine and work toward a system in which all student benefit, rather than one that has winners and losers.”
Love it!
One of my many points of disgust with race to the top etc is the whole winner/loser set up.
Not what school is supposed to be about.
This whole debate over tracking is really odd. People make arguments that would be considered completely bizarre in the university context. For example, take 3 university students — one of them needs remedial math before he is even ready for college algebra, one of them is ready for college algebra 2, and one of them already had calculus 1 to 3 in high school and is ready for a differential equations class.
If anyone said to the university math department, “You have to put all these 3 students in the same class,” the math department would think you were being facetious. How can it possibly make sense to give these 3 students the same class when they are at such different levels and need such different instruction? Basically every student would be wasting time during 2/3 of the class when instruction was given to the other two students (e.g., the remedial student would be lost 2/3 of the time, because by definition this is a remedial student who doesn’t understand the more advanced topics yet).
But then if someone followed up and said, “Don’t worry, if you put all these 3 students in the same class, everyone will actually learn MORE! Woo-hoo, it’s a win-win!” then they’d probably faint. There’s no way a student who needs to be working on differential equations would learn MORE if forced to sit in a class that spent 2/3 of the time teaching stuff that he learned years before.
That’s all obvious at the collegiate level. Why does anyone think the world works differently in K-12?
Because I do it, and it does. Not everyone learns everything, but everyone learns more. In great part, tracking creates the gaps.
Independent confirmation would be nice, because it seems incredibly unlikely that students would learn more (indeed, that they would learn much of anything at all) when taught things far above or below their level.
I have to respectfully disagree with tracking everybody to the same group. Ideally everybody learns more, but this is often not the case. I suppose an effective way to close achievement gaps would be to hold the brightest students back and assume they’re doing well based on ceiling effects of standardized measures. I’ve written more about this in a post below…
(Btw, I’ll be at the Eastern Educational Research Association Conference later this month and would love to meet people with various views on a variety of topics.)
Sure. Here is one link to a research paper that provides a variety of studies http://nepc.colorado.edu/publication/universal-access
You can download the summary, but I suggest you look at the whole paper. There are many citations that you will find helpful if you look up the studies.
You’re the first author on the article you’re citing (which is fine), however I was happy to see a link to a debate that included Tom Loveless. I did note the citations in the article, and I have noted that your co-authored article consists of three case studies of three systems. It is customary in qualitative research (of which case studies are a part) for authors to position themselves within the research, while noting how their biases may influence the research.
Although I would not wish to throw out heterogeneous grouping altogether in complete favor of homogeneous grouping, this is hardly a settled matter. What I find troubling is the overgeneralization of research findings. For instance, Oakes’ landmark 1985 publication included 25 high schools; yet her findings and recommendations from that particular study are often cited as a rationale for “de-tracking” non-secondary student populations.
Before abandoning “instructional grouping” in favor of other research interests, I started to view “de-tracking” in favor of strict heterogeneous grouping to be a form of tracking (my own bias of course). We still track by age in the American K-12 system with little to no regard for the developmental needs of individual students. This is often done under the guise of a “differentiated instruction” rationale, but often with no concrete descriptions of how such instruction is differentiated.
It is much different for k-12. Children develop at different times. So-called ability grouping locks a child into one level, often on the basis of a standardized test. The research has shown that in the lower groups teachers have lower expectations for children (it’s human nature) and children do not have access to higher level work that would stretch them. Their learning experience is limited and they end up being cemented into this low level, with diminished educational opportunities for the rest of their middle and high school career. In my district, Stamford CT, children were placed in an “ability” group in 6th grade, based on their 4th or 5th grade state standardized tests. Since standardized test scores track closely with socio-economic status, and since in our district, socio-economic status tracks closely with race, the makeup of the top two levels was overwhelmingly white and Asian, and the bottom two levels were overwhelmingly children of color. Children of color ended up stuck in those low levels, taking AP courses, at a rate 4 times lower than whites and Asians, and the same was true of the rates of taking 4 years of math and science. Why should a child’s future be decided on the basis of how she is perceived to be at 10 years old? This academic segregation spills over into social segregation. Because kids are segregated in the classroom from middle school on, they self-segregate in the lunchroom in high school.
The research has shown that higher scoring children do not suffer in heterogeneous grouping. That is why the National Middle School Association, the New England League of Middle Schools, and many other experts and educational associations recommend moving to heterogeneous grouping.
Wendy — saying that higher-achievers don’t suffer is less surprising than saying that they actually manage to learn more. Anyway, it still doesn’t make any sense. The only reason any scholar finds such unbelievable results is because they’re using some sort of test on which the high achievers are already maxing out no matter what you do.
Example: if you take a kid who could be learning calculus, and who already knows Algebra 2, but stick him in a classroom of struggling pre-algebra learners in the guise of being heterogeneous and inclusive, he’ll do great on the pre-algebra test no matter what.
So now give yourself a huge pat on the back for being heterogeneous and inclusive, while ignoring the huge damage you’re doing to that kid by putting him in a classroom where he’s bored and can’t spend very much time learning material that is on his level.
I agree JB. A report titled “A Nation Deceived” addresses the needs of high-achievers.
http://www.accelerationinstitute.org/nation_deceived/
(I’ve written more regarding Oakes, etc. below.)
I was a lowly cook for 15 years, and I was a lowly enterprise database & email server support serf for 5 years during the dot.bomb in Seattle. I’ve been a grunt high school math teacher for 8 years.
I think this heter-Genius grouping is brilliant pie in the sky out of touch pap. Since I grew up on welfare & didn’t hit the stock option lottery, I’ll tell job interviewers what they want to hear about the wonders of grouping. I won’t tell them that all the conditions necessary to make their pie in the sky work aren’t figured out and aren’t paid for, so, their Ivory Tower pie would be most useful if it were printed on Kleenex.
I won’t tell job interviewers that the edu-babble-ists outside the reality of the buildings with kids have devised the most Orwellian crap possible for blaming teachers when too many of the kids in the class aren’t ready to just concentrate & practice.
I won’t tell job interviewers that Big Bird came along when I was 9 and that current edu-babble looks like the efforts of a leafy neighborhood social cla$$ to close their eyes to the realities of running the world, and pretend that if we all act like TeleTubbies, then the world will be like TeleTubbies.
Math Problem: Figure out what needs to be done with the unruly students so they can do the work of learning, OR, hire a bunch of your admin cronies to give 3 day trainings to packs of teachers so the cronies can live large?
Throwing the rats into the cage and seeing which ones grap the piece of meat first & come out on top sure as hell isn’t ‘education’. There are also NOT enough resources for all of us to have our own personal boo-boo kisser and life coach and math booster and care diem chanter. There is a LOT of boring work to do so 7,000,000,000 people can have some bok choy, wheat or rice or spuds, sneakers or sandals, a roof & a door & bed, a retirement & an education & health care access … and, if you can’t deal with that reality, TOUGH. I’m sick of cutting onions and garlic, I did it for years. Anything I cook uses onions and garlic – so get chopping and get the hell over it.
Cooking is to TV Cooking Shows as Teaching is To Holywood Teacher Movies.
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Most students are typically unruly because they are disengaged. Many teachers, unfortunately, look to deflect the blame for this behavior.
Teaching is more art than science which means we can learn a great deal from the experienced artists. PD is a two-edged sword and there are good and bad consultants but they do allow artists to share their craft. How else do we get out of our classrooms and learn from others?
I train new math teachers and very often learn new ideas from observing them and by reflecting on my own teaching as I instruct them. The worst thing that can happen to a teacher is not imposed from outside but from within – when a teacher becomes stagnant and sour.
To – ctspedmathdude at February 9, 2013 at 5:52 pm.
I see – the over 1000 hours of “training” I had to get certified and I had as a new teacher was 950 hours of idiocy because I’m close minded !! thanks! wow, now I know what is wrong!
Sarcasm aside, I AM stagnant and sour on the same kind of management crap I lived through at Microsoft for 5 years, and the same kind of management crap that has ensured that the top 5% keep their nice homes in their nice ‘hoods while the rest of us live on the edge of employment insecurity, health care access insecurity, and retirement insecurity. I’m 53, that is the economy I’ve lived in since I was 13 40 years ago.
ALL the conditions to make this pie-in-the-sky work are NOT paid for in the 4 districts where I was a sub or a student teacher, nor in the district I work in. As much as I dislike the deformers for their yuppie glib lie$ to fund pinstripe patronage – WHY do their lies have so much traction?
Because if you took EVERYONE not in a building with kids making over $75,000 a year, and fired them last week, NOTHING would get worse for those of us in the trenches. ZERO.
Obviously, If I ever lower myself to interview with you because I’m broke, I’ll just lie to you about how groupwork solves everything, except when a teacher is stale and stagnant.
I have had 50 hours of good PD … 50/1000 is whose fault? I’m not in charge of anything, Bill Gate$.
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I think some parents make school choices (those who put thought into that decision) based on (sometimes) peer pressure (fitting in with a desired social group, sometimes without realizing it); the perceived obligation of “buying my child the best there is” (with the assumption that most expensive equals the best); and an avoidance of seeing poverty and the unknown variables that it might bring in (as parents see it). Public school might serve a child a parent fears will negatively impact their child (I’m not defending this view point, I’m just typing what I’ve heard from peers). Thinking parents might, as I have heard it phrased, “not want their child to be the sacrificial lamb,” even if they see the big picture of public school’s place in a society.
On the contrary, my parents chose to send me to public schools, even driving me to a school that was more diverse than our neighborhood school when we lived in New Orleans, LA, so that I WOULD be exposed to poverty and what it might bring in and so that I WOULD view and meet the child they might not want to negatively impact me. Their view was that the systems in place (the adults, the educators, the rules) would protect me, balanced with dialogue at home about what I saw at school and participation in church life, camps, family trips, and other meaningful experiences (music lessons, visits to museums, touring state capitals and visiting other countries). All I can say is that I got into the college I wanted to and seem no worse for my upbringing (and I can say the same for my sister and ten cousins who were all raised with this philosophy–we all graduated from college, some top tier–and are gainfully employed, contributing citizens). I think there are still plenty of parents who think like my parents did, but there are also plenty who think like those I described at the start of this post. So long as the dialogues like those on this blog continue, I think a balance can be found to serve both types of thinking.
Joanna, I agree that parents make decisions about schools, as they do about people they elect, for a variety of reasons. This country was founded in part on a belief in the value of giving citizens the power to vote, and to make other choices.
Not all those choices are great. But democracy is like that.
I wish Oakes’ statement had reconfirmed the importance of keeping class size small, especially if you are going to de-track schools, to ensure that teachers can meet the needs of all students at different levels, with different learning styles and challenges. Finland turned around its school system in the 1970’s when the government de-tracked schools, and the teachers union demanded smaller classes at the same time.
I agree. You need reasonable class sizes and support classes that are small to really get benefit and not have to slow down curriculum. Jeannie always says that you have to do it right.
Thank you, Leonie Haimson, head of the wonderful advocacy group Class Size Matters, perfectly named. Small classes are essential for beneficial impact of mass educe on the vast majority of students in k-12. My son’s pub schl class has 27 students and 1 teacher, no asst. or aide; local pvt schl has 14 kids in each class, a teacher, an asst. teacher with a coll degree, and a volunteer parent in the room each day to work individually with kids. 3 adults in the room for 14 kids vs. 1 adult for 27(and this is in a high-tax, high-property value metro suburb). Pub schl classroom with 27 kids and 1 teacher strains competence of even best teachers(and my son’s is one of the best). Large classes mean less indic mentoring for each student and the compelling need for the teacher to “manage” the few students who are inevitably “off-task.” Rich kids get small classes in pvt schl and so do the over-funded charters run by Geoff Canada in Harlem, two teachers in each class of 15 kids, nothing comparable to the real pub schls nearby, thanks to Wall St funders. Overall, it is true that our k-12 mass pub educ system has not served millions of students well b/c it is under-funded and over-regulated, too many kids per class, too little invested in inspiring project learning in and out of class. In defending our pub schls from the corporate onslaught of Gates, Walton, Broad, Zuckerman, Rhee, and others, we also need a debate among ourselves about “winning” this fateful fight for the public sector–winning to me is not returning to the unequal and uneven pub schls built for most students. Winning to me means turning back the corporate attempt to seize the assets of the public sector–school buildings, grounds, equipment and furnishings, as well as public subsidies for private charter–as well as reversing the testing invasion facilitating this corporate takeover–while imagining and building schools of creative future citizens–steeped in arts, civic studies and projects, social problem-solvers–who in their future adult lives will not be doing catchup to the anti-social forces on the rampage, who won’t be cornered so cruelly by the billionaire boys club and its fake rheeformers, who will know how to take the offensive in building just schools in a just society.
Re Project based learning, which Ira Shor mentions and the issue of student of different knowledge & skill levels working together – sometimes project based learning brings youngsters together (sorry for length of this post)
http://hometownsource.com/2013/02/06/student-engagement-declining-dramatically-and-what-schools-can-do/
What can five- and six-year-olds learn from building a playground, or high school students learn by helping to produce a play, writing a history of their community, creating You-Tube videos about the value of Dual (High School/College) credit courses, conducting water quality testing, or planning and then building a community garden?
The answer is clear: Students who participate in such hands-on, active learning generally will be more “engaged” in their learning. And, a 2012 Gallup poll of almost 500,000 American students, grades 5-12, helps explain why student engagement is so important. The poll also shows a dramatic decline in student engagement as students move thorough our public schools.
How do we “engage” students?
• Students at the School for Environmental Sciences have researched and help create exhibits for the Minnesota Zoo.
• Students in many communities, including Apple Valley, Eastview, Eagan, Lakeville, the Main Street School for Performing Arts in Hopkins, and Richfield have produced musicals that won awards from the Hennepin Theatre Trust.
• In Little Falls, students in a combined Biology/English/Social Studies class read
and wrote about the history of the Mississippi. They also did water quality testing on the river discovering at one point that there was an unacceptably high level of bacteria in the water.
• In Houston, students interviewed local residents for an area history. They discovered one elderly woman who had been a member of the French Resistance during World War II, causing them to do a lot of reflection about her and their high school years.
• In St. Paul, students researched, planned and then built a playground with a zero budget. It was a very big day in the life of the seven-year old co-chairs of the “sand committee” when six truck loads of sand, that they had arranged for, arrived.
Let’s be clear. This is NOT an attack on teachers. That’s because teachers are being pushed hard to focus on standardized, multiple-choice tests.
But as the national Gallup organization points out, we should care about this because “Hope, engagement and well being of students accounts for one third of the variance of student success. Yet schools don’t measure these things. Hope, for example, is a better predictor of student success than SAT scores, ACT scores, or grade point average.” * Gallup found that from elementary to secondary school, student engagement drops from 76 percent to 44 percent.
* Gallup concluded “There are several things that might help to explain why this is happening — ranging from our overzealous focus on standardized testing and curricula to our lack of experiential and project-based learning pathways for students — not to mention the lack of pathways for students who will not and do not want to go on to college.” We want students to read, write and do mathematics. We also want them to be active, constructive citizens. We need to measure whether they are developing hope and a sense that they can accomplish important things.
You can read the report here:
http://thegallupblog.gallup.com/2013/01/the-school-cliff-student-engagement.html
There are great examples of these applied projects at http://www.whatkidscando.org
Many families and employers want youngsters who are active, positive, able to work with others…engaged. Not just people with academic skills.
Academic skills are important, but not enough. Being “engaged” helps many students see the value of and develop those “3-R” skills, along with a belief that they can set goals and make a difference.
Joe Nathan, formerly a Minnesota public school teacher and administrator, directs the Center for School Change. Reactions welcome, joe@centerforschoolchange.org
The column above will appear in various newspapers reaching up to 650,000 people in the coming week.
I am not sure I understand what Oakes said. She starts by saying that in her experience there is no positive academic impact on above average students in heterogeneous grouping; then says that studies show the benefits of heterogeneous grouping for all levels of students. Next she describes in some detail the study done in urban Philadelphia and concluded higher achievement gains with heterogeneity.
Rather than a conflict over heterogeneous grouping, there is controversy, mainly because grouping is determined by test scores which we now see don’t measure what students know and can do. Rather they measure in large part, socio-economic levels and race. However, I do agree with her that there are no easy answers, and the ability of a parent to negotiate may not be one of them.In most urban areas parents can’t negotiate a “perceived advantage” of one school or another. More and more the choice for parents is a neglected public school or a corporate charter school with perceived advantages. We know from the research that the former can be fixed with appropriate human and financial resources and the latter does not offer any better education. We know where the power lies, we know who is currently benefiting; and at least in some cities, we as parents and educators are trying to do the thing we think we can not do. We are endeavoring to stop the overuse and misuse of standardized testing, stop the growing numbers of charter schools from devouring public education, and expose and address the issues of inequity so as to “create a more democratic and just society”. We need Jeannie’s voice to help us.
In addition to Jeanne Oakes, I’d be curious to read what Tom Loveless might have to say about this.
This is egalitarianism. Unfortunately, some people are not comfortable admitting that some children (just like some adults) are more intelligent than others. However, we don’t seem to have this problem when it comes to homogeneous grouping by athletic and musical abilities.
Ms. Oakes makes some darn good points in her own published research, especially when it comes to equality of opportunity. At the same time, I realize her landmark 1985 research used a small sample that has unfortunately been overgeneralized by many. There are also seemingly polar opposite differences in meta-anaytical research from Kulik & Kulik vs. Slavin (for example). So it’s important to consider the articles those researchers included in their studies. Admittedly, Kulik and Kulik had a smaller effect size (Cohen’s d).
I’m not against heterogeneous grouping, but a blind adherence to it constitutes another form of TRACKING because it forces all students of an age-graded system into a cohort without enough regard for their individual developmental differences.
Diane, this is a public-service request from a completely unaffiliated, totally agnostic, and by all outward appearances conflicted (l believe in choice, especially for minority parents who can’t move to Madison (NJ or CT) or get into Dalton, but I’ve wasted too many hours to count debunking ‘we educate the same kids’ claims made by charter operators) New York City public school parent.
It is received wisdom in these parts that “all kids benefit” from heterogeneous classrooms, with posters frequently referring to multiple unnamed studies to make the point. It definitely wasn’t the case for one of our children, and I’ve read other recent articles (Checker Finn — I know, boo, hiss) that suggest that it certainly isn’t settled science..
What I’m asking for is this: would you and the readers who refer to these studies be willing to provide citations for the studies in one central place — ideally, you’d “elevate” my comment as a new post and ask readers to provide links, summaries, etc. in the comments to that new post.
One major caveat, though: the studies must have taken place AFTER the passage of NCLB. This is a critical distinction: I completely buy in to the concept of heterogeneous grouping, particularly when accompanied by small class sizes. But in my district, which has more “at-risk” children than not, there’s no bang for the buck in teaching the kid who’ll get a good score on a state test no matter what happens in the classroom.
Thanks.
http://nepc.colorado.edu/publication/universal-access
This is an overview of the research as well as three models of successful detracking.
The references will be helpful if you are interested in developing good understanding of the literature.
For an overview of the history of tracking/de-tracking (up to 1999, but still very relevant) and the reasons policies are often implemented or resisted, read “The Tracking Wars: State Reform Meets School Policy.”
To provide an opposing view of this debate, you might also consult http://www.sbsdk12.org/programs/gate/documents/200912_Detracking.pdf regarding negative effects of de-tracking.
But of course they offer no believable answer to the situation I posed above (2:22 pm on Feb. 8).
Sorry, my comment was aimed at the article which Carol Burris cited. The research base for her idealistic claims is weak to non-existent. For a more accurate review of the literature on actual studies (not just self-serving anecdotes from single schools), see pages 11-13 here: http://www.sbsdk12.org/programs/gate/documents/200912_Detracking.pdf
Be fair to Burris. She writes from knowledge and experience, which you dismiss as “self-serving” and an “anecdote from a single school.” You suggest we should look instead to the work of researchers instead. I have great respect for research but I also recognize that some research is self-serving, ideological, political, and the work of hired guns or those who take test scores as God’s word.
JB, the research base is not weak. Go and read the articles cited. The research on the damage done by low-track classes has been well established in the literature, including by the National Research Council. I used to believe in tracking to….all my life in school I was in high track classes…but I have been studying this issue as a scholar and practitioner since 1999. If you give all students the high track curriculum, and put in all of the needed supports to make lower achievers successful, it is not the perfect system but it is the best system for all. The nation of Finland detracked through age 16 in all of its schools. It was an important part of its reform which is credited for having the smallest SES achievement gap of any nation. Tom Loveless is a bright and sincere man. He was also a teacher of the gifted and he is an advocate for gifted students.
You may not like my point of view, my school, or my conclusions from the research, but to dismiss it and call me self-serving does not help you make your point.
While I would not characterize you as “self-serving,” I would also not dismiss Loveless for being a former teacher of the gifted or for being an advocate for the gifted. My own experience includes teaching students with LD, as well as gifted. What I experienced in several schools were poor attempts to de-track where students with learning disabilities, as well as the gifted were ill-served. Implementation is key of course. In my own experience as a student, I have been in every “track” based on a test that was given during the beginning of the year. For reading groups, I have experienced the high, middle, and low groups; what I find bothersome is a system where students are forced into rigid groupings with no chance of ever moving between them. So in many ways, I am in agreement with you. Where I differ with you is in the implementation and strict adherence to a “one track for all at all times” (or strict heterogeneous) group in all instances.
Look, I don’t disagree that lower-achieving kids could benefit from being taken out of a “lower track” and given more challenging material. We agree on that .
But to say that gifted or advanced kids actually benefit from detracking is not supported by any actual research evidence.
The most you could say that maybe, just maybe, they’re not being hurt. But as I said above, I’d like to evidence outside of anecdotes or dumbed-down tests that the gifted kids are going to ace no matter what.
This was my thinking as a parent . . . . .
Do I want my child to experience the breadth of community, humanity, culture, and ways of living in this world?
Or do I want my child to see the world through the narrow lens of the privileged and acquire mainly the cultural capital of the powerful? My daughter might gain a slight temporary advantage on standardized test scores (written by the powerful about the culture of the powerful) if I choose to increase her interactions with the narrow group, but she would grow more ignorant in the ways of the world.
The choice was easy.
Whatever career my child should choose . . . . . doctor, teacher, writer, journalist, researcher, professor, nurse, politician, businessman I believed her greatest advantage would be to understand the many ways people in her planet live and to truly know the people themselves, something she would learn best by growing up among them. I thought it wise to widen her view, not narrow it. I believed she would never overcome an empathy gap that would be caused by isolating her among the elite during her most formative years.
The choice was easy. My daughter has been enriched by learning among immigrants, ELLS, Special ed., the poor, the ADHD, and children with issues who throw up, can’t see, and have occasional tantrums. These people were her first friends in the world and she will never forget them. I thought it was important for my daughter to learn character, empathy, and to actually see and and know that oppression is real. These things were as important to me as learning to decode words and do math. Many of the great problems of our society and our planet are ethical problems and our people need depths of character and empathy to begin to understand them.
Just beautiful….thank you for sharing. I am awed by the power and beauty of your words and beliefs.
One of the very interesting things about this blog is the connections across threads. Bill Morrison posted a spirited heartfelt defense of students being selected out of schools and the trials of teaching in a very heterogeneous classroom. I wonder if those who condemn “creaming” and tracking might wish to comment on his post. I can not provide a direct link, but it is in the About This Blog thread and is dated February 9, 2013 at 10:44 am
I see a problem with the underlying assumptions and accepted conditions for this debate. We focus on the impact of slowing the “progress” of more advanced students versus the predetermined destiny of those placed in lower tracks. All the while we overlook how we measure the outcomes and the fact that within “homogeneous” groupings we have wide disparity of abilities.
First, what progress are the more advanced students showing? They pass through the “mile wide and inch deep” curriculum at a faster pace? In CT, a state with a highly acclaimed education system (as measured by traditional standards), we have a majority of students entering a state post-secondary institution needing a remedial course. I have taught at the university level for years and have seen the majority of students struggle because of weak study skills.
Lower level math classes are typically watered down and cookie cutter. Kids in a low level stats class spend a class period learning the mechanics of generating a histogram by hand while kids in AP Stats graph histograms using a calculator and focus on analysis of the graph. Use the graphing calculator in the lower level classes. Also, give students a chance to move up into another track. I currently have multiple students in low level classes doing independent study on more advanced course work.
Finally, we measure learning by grades, which are inherently confounded by homework grades, grade inflation and invalid assessments. Lost in this debate is the need to help all students learn study skills and how to make informed decisions (among other outcomes), regardless of the level of the class.
I recently completed a documentary surrounding this issue- https://vimeo.com/61128270