A reader shared his response to the article praising the profit motive in education.
Hi Diane. I wrote the following reply to Tom Segal on their web page.
Eight years ago, I would have agreed with you on your perspective, Mr. Segal. Unfortunately, your efforts to paint the public education community as in dire need of the profit motive are profoundly misguided. I have spent the last 8 years teaching in public charters, which are nothing more than privatized public schools. My experience, and the data, show that they rarely perform any better and in 1/3 of the cases, perform worse than traditional public schools.
Your error lies in in your belief that the dynamics of a capitalistic market apply within the mandate of the public education sector. They simply do not. By law, schools must accept all students that walk through their doors. Name me one company that has that mandate. There simply isn’t one. A competitive market is based on choice. Choice by the vendor to offer the product and choice by the consumer to reject the product. At the end of the day, the vendor doesn’t have to sell to everyone and the consumer doesn’t have to buy anything (whether because they don’t want it or can’t afford it). In education, this is unacceptable. The entire basis of public education is anti-competitive by design, and with good reason. In competition, someone always loses out. When you are dealing with children, this is unacceptable. If education becomes for profit, we will end up with the same thing we have in health care–40 million people who are left with nothing while for profit care providers make enormous profits. For our country, this would be incredibly destructive.
There is also a huge difference between schools working with for profit vendors and schools themselves becoming for profit vendors. For profit vendors will do whatever it takes to maintain the highest profitability. Cut wages, eliminate less profitable products, close down entire production facilities, etc. This type of instability may work in a world where companies are dealing with widgets. However, introducing this type of volatility into the education world is extremely destructive. I have seen students suffer through the poor performance of their school, the subsequent closing, and their shuffling to yet another poorly performing school. This is not “market efficiency” that is necessary in education. It is instability introduced at the most vulnerable time in an adolescent’s life.
Lest you think that I’m simply ignorant of business, I should say that I earned an undergraduate integrative Business/Econ major and am currently earning my MBA. Over seven years ago, I charged into battle with the same cry of privatization and “for profit” motive you are espousing here. My direct experience showed me the folly of this type of thinking.
If you haven’t already, I would encourage you to earn your credential and go and teach in the public education classroom for at least five years. I don’t believe anyone who has not actually taught in the public school has any right to authoritatively criticize it, especially from a perspective as potentially detrimental as introducing for profit motives into public education. I find it remarkable that people who have no education experience act as though they know what’s best for the education profession itself. No other profession would tolerate this type of behavior. Imagine if I would presume to criticize the methods general practitioners use to treat their patients. Imagine if I presumed to suggest sweeping changes to the investment banking world, having no experience at all as an IB. Even worse, imagine if I not only criticized it, but had billions of dollars to begin altering those professions and their economic structures. Yes, the “Market” might push me out after I had failed, but at what cost was I proven a failure? How many lives did I affect negatively? What types of damage may have been irrevocably done?
Children are not test subjects for the mega wealthy and for venture capitalists. If someone wants to bring change and “reform” to public education, they should start by getting deep experience in the classroom to learn first hand what the real challenges are. No one who hasn’t paid their dues in the “trenches” as a Private has any right to presume to take the title of General and to lead an army.

This is an amazing comment, eloquently written and unspeakably heartbreaking. As this has been written by someone who actually worked in charter schools for almost a decade (and how many people have done that?), I would urge him/her to write more. i.e., a book. The more people who have been on the inside (people working for Pearson or K12, for example) who go public, the more exposure the evil empire will have to endure. Tell your story, write a book, go on a book tour and get out there!
In fact, article responder, while you’re at it, send this as your C.O.P. letter to President Obama.
And…thank you for your valuable insight. Spread it far and wide!
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Sorry, Dan–the chicken came before the egg: when I opened this blog, your response was at the top, so I read this first. Kudos to you, and keep on writing–you have a gift.
(As a writing teacher, I know!)
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Another outstanding post. If anyone is “on the fence” about the privatization of public schools, reading this post will open their eyes.
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An excellent comment, truly. Diane, I’m currently reading your Death and Life book (thanks to my local public library), and wanted to share a letter to the editor I recently wrote after the CTU strike:
http://www.rrstar.com/opinions/whatyouresaying/x1711843961/Letter-What-is-truly-vital-in-education
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Could I make an addition to the list of things an organization can do to “maintain highest profitability”? My addition would be to build a superior product or offer superior service.
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Thanks for this outstanding comment. I have posted my own response to Tom Segal’s essay here: “Confronting the Free Marketeers: Will They Plow Through Us?” http://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/living-in-dialogue/2012/10/confronting_the_free_marketeer.html
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Here is the comment I posted on Anthony Cody’s response:
According to the new editorial heading that replaced their gleeful personal attack on Anthony Cody, this obnoxious little venture-fund pundit was assigned by EdSurge to write a hack piece defending “the role of profit”.
After all his daydreaming about the wonderful and useful new products his industry will surely be innovating at us soon, he shows his true colors. Venture capital isn’t relying on the market to sell its wares. They use their insider strings, their political leverage, and most of all their nasty personal destruction of the careers of public education administrators and teachers who oppose the forced imposition of their useless, time-consuming, and toxic product lines.
Tom Segal reels out an exact series of threats from the for-profit scam artists, that I heard in my own public school library six years ago, in exactly these same words:
“…the train has left the station. You can either get on board and help streamline its direction, or you can stand in its way and incrementally slow it down as it plows right through you.”
And they really have destroyed many people who opposed them, not by the wonderfulness of any free choice of their product lines, but by political payoffs, cronyism, bribes, and threats.
Here is Business Week itself, describing how one brave woman withstood the assault of their “free market” juggernaut train on the University of Virginia:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-26/university-of-virginia-reinstates-president-after-outcry
The “entrepreneurs” who have chosen to get on board that train have no relation whatsoever to any “free market”. They are cheats and liars who do indeed prey on our schools, and they have forfeited all respect.
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To be honest, I abhor the idea of generating profits from education. But considering the fact the people need money to make ends meet, there’s not much we can do about it. However, it’s important to ensure that no child should miss out one quality education because of lack of money.
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