Our reader “Democracy” posted the following comment about the Presidential election:
In April of 2012, Norman Ornstein and Thomas Mann, two of the most respected Congressional scholars in the country, published this piece in The Washington Post:
“We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.”
“The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition…When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly impossible for the political system to deal constructively with the country’s challenges.”
“‘Both sides do it’ or ‘There is plenty of blame to go around’ are the traditional refuges for an American news media intent on proving its lack of bias, while political scientists prefer generality and neutrality when discussing partisan polarization. Many self-styled bipartisan groups, in their search for common ground, propose solutions that move both sides to the center, a strategy that is simply untenable when one side is so far out of reach.”
“It is clear that the center of gravity in the Republican Party has shifted sharply to the right. ..The post-McGovern Democratic Party, by contrast, while losing the bulk of its conservative Dixiecrat contingent in the decades after the civil rights revolution, has retained a more diverse base. Since the Clinton presidency, it has hewed to the center-left on issues from welfare reform to fiscal policy. While the Democrats may have moved from their 40-yard line to their 25, the Republicans have gone from their 40 to somewhere behind their goal post.”
It has only GOTTEN MUCH WORSE since then.
It isn’t the Democrats. It’s racism, misogyny, “Christian” nationalism”, fear and hatred, all spread by Republicans, especially Trump, and by Fox, and by right-wing media, from Alex Jones and Charlie Kirk to Ben Shapiro and Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson, and others.
Lots of Americans are willingly receptive.
We are all going to find out in the near future just what a mistake they made.

The Place Where Three Wars Meet
• https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2012/06/21/the-place-where-three-wars-meet/
One of the interesting things about the curse of our nation’s interesting times is the chance we have to observe how that triple threat — the War on Democracy, the War on Education, and the War on Science — work hand in hand in hand to wreak havoc on every core value of American society our parents and teachers impressed on us in what now seems like ancient days.
The inseparable bond between democratic government and public education is no doubt obvious to anyone whose mind and character have been nurtured by the lessons of progressive education — perhaps too obvious to understand how anyone could fail to see how each will die without the other.
At any rate, most of us can probably see how the war on democracy and the war on education are just two fronts in a larger campaign to nullify the core values our Founders labored to give birth on this Continent.
But the war on science? Or inquiry, knowledge, research, truth — however you want to put it? What is that about? Where does that come into the fray?
For one thing, think of the armory of double-think-tanks that constantly bombard the public with barrage on barrage of agenda-driven reports, the host of which tanks operate in exact opposition to the way genuine researchers are trained to conduct historical and scientific research.
For another thing, the public is now so inundated by the rain of abuse on our university-educated teachers that — unlike every other civilized country in the world — they forget the role that academic freedom plays in conveying the truth about realities not-to-be-denied to the generations that will have to face those realities squarely and without the escape of wishful illusion.
So you can’t have a really good war on democratic education without a multi-pronged assault on academic freedom, communication, information, inquiry, journalism, knowledge, research, science, and truth. Now can you?
LikeLike
Thank you for this article, John.
Public Education matters!
When our public schools die, so does democracy.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Jon: Nicely put. You write:
“But the war on science? Or inquiry, knowledge, research, truth — however you want to put it? What is that about? Where does that come into the fray?”
TWO POINTS:
It comes into the fray when a person can be so much an uneducated hypocrite that one can pick up a phone, drive a car, or take an aspirin (ad infinitum) and at the same time say, “I hate science,” thereby being unable to understand or even think about their complicity in science and what they would do without it. My guess is that many pick and choose according to their religious beliefs.
It also came into the fray when scientists realized their moral/ethical/political responsibilities to other creatures and to the world . . . (as with climate change) but with it the demise of scientific positivism that earlier was adopted unthinkingly by the social sciences and still hangs on), with a stream of badly developed scientists (undeveloped as persons), and with capitalists’ interest in the wedding of scientific labels and thinking with political propaganda–instead of with intelligence and truth. CBK
LikeLike
Trump’s war on science is a war on scientists and truth. In Russia, if the science contradicts Kremlin policy then the numbers change; violating the sacred core of scientific epistemology, to truthfully report experimental results. Trump’s vocal denigration of scientists (think Fauci) extinguishes yet another “threat” to the supremacy of dictators. Don’t believe the fake news believe Trump – Don’t believe our intel agencies believe Putin- Don’t believe legally lost election results believe Trump – Don’t believe scientists, believe conspiracist RFK. Science, like the free press, is one of many venerable institutions under attack in Putin’s (and his asset Trump’s) ongoing asymmetric war on the United States.
LikeLike
I think the war on science came about because many scientific findings (climate, masks during pandemic, vaccinations…) happen to support Democrat talking points. The anti-science group has it backwards: they don’t get that scientists didn’t set out to support Democrats; Democrats adopted positions because they believe the scientists. Kind of, “If they’re for it, I’m against it!”
LikeLike
My mother is a lifelong pro-life Republican, in her 80s, and completely despondent that this is what has happened to her party and that this may be the last president she will ever see.
LikeLike
I am hoping that the House goes majority Republican. That way, Righties will have complete power, along with the Supreme Court, and therefore no excuses for the mayhem & misery that will ensue. As much as I will hate to see & feel it for myself & loved ones, the only way to get major change is to hit rock bottom, completely blow things up, and then pick up the pieces & start over. Sadly, we’ll all have to suffer through the rebuilding & recreating something new & hopefully better. Or…..maybe not!
LikeLike
Loved2teach,
It’s the “maybe not” that worries me!
LikeLike
Well, last time we had a republican president, house and Senate, things went really well. The economy was good and we had border security. Why is that a bad thing?
LikeLike
Because all the branches of government now are controlled by one man who seethes with rage and the desire for vengeance. Because there are no checks and balances. Because Trump’s foreign policy will be dictated by Putin. Because women will lose the right to healthcare if they are pregnant and sick.
Because Republicans before now were mainstream, not MAGA. Because MAGA represents the hateful extremists. And by the way, MAGA does not like people named Miguel or Juan or Jose.
LikeLike
The last time we had a unified government under Republican control (House, Senate, presidency), the first two years there was a healthy economy thanks to Barack Obama, who basically fixed the economic mess left behind by George W. Bush.
No one should be surprised that Trump and Republicans tried to take credit for it.
Trump and his cronies embarked immediately on tax cuts for corporations and the rich, adding trillions to the national debt. As the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities concluded from its research, “Like the Bush tax cuts before it, the 2017 Trump tax cut was a trickle-down failure.”
Working class Americans got stuck with the bill.
Now, Trump and Republicans will move to make those expiring tax cuts permanent, and ADD to them. Deficits and debt will pile up.
When the economic chaos comes, Trump will claim, like he did with Covid, that he takes “no responsibility” and try to blame someone or something else. He always does.
Only blind partisans and cognitively-impaired people will believe him.
LikeLike
I woke up when Reagan defeated Carter and said maybe it was for the best. I quickly learned to eat those words and have been paying for it ever since. Todays Republican party was not birthed in 2012
It was incubated in 1964
LikeLike
Cry harder, libs! Hey, Diane, didn’t you have a post here predicting that Harris would win the popular vote???? BWAHAHAAHAHA!!!!!! Also, someone here left a comment implying that Liz Cheney was heroic and that Kamala made a good decision to campaign with her. Just brilliant! Anyway, I’m delighted that the democratic party of cultural Marxists and warmongers lost big! WOOOOOHOOOOO!
But seriously, though, why did Harris focus on getting an endorsement from the despicable and unpopular Cheneys. Is the left that so far out of touch with working class people?
LikeLike
Miguel,
I don’t recall predicting that Harris would win but I certainly hoped so.
The idea of electing a felon, a racist, a rapist, a sexual predator, an entertainer who curses like a lowlife is disgusting.
By the way, Miguel, you may soon be “denaturalized” and deported. Hasta la vista, Miguel!
LikeLike
Does anyone know what a cultural Marxist is? Does that mean that public institutions, like libraries and public schools, that are dependent on our pooled resources are Marxist? Does that mean that our interstate highway system is Marxist? How about our police and fire protection, which used to be available only to those who paid for it? Of course Social Security and Medicare are Marxist. Medicaid, definitely!! No more government susidies for industry. Marxist! What the heck is a cultural Marxist?!
LikeLike
Incidentally, to extend your examples, the whole concept of insurance companies is Marxist. A bunch of people pool their money into a central fund (“from each according to his ability”), & when someone has a claim, they get a payment that may be more than the amount they’ve paid into the fund (“to each according to his need”). You could pay into fire insurance for 20 years, & then some freeloader gets your money just because, darn the luck, your house didn’t burn down.
This must stop!
LikeLike
Thanks for the input! Anyone else want to add on?
LikeLike
Tried to respond but held up in moderation.
LikeLike
I do unfortunately. Basically it’s the idea that people have taken the oppressor-oppressed framework of Marxism and applied it to identity groups as opposed to economic classes. Popularized by James Lindsay, a guy I once had a lot of respect for but who has gone insane.
https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-cultural-marxism/
LikeLike
Unfortunately I know the answer to this, since, as an “antiwoke” person myself, I am familiar with the ways of these people.
A cultural marxist is basically how they describe people who take the oppressor-oppressed framework of Marxism and apply it to identity groups rather than economic classes. The term itself has roots in the Frankfurt School, but this particular usage was popularized by James Lindsay, a man I once had a lot of respect for but who, like many antiwokes, has gone full Trump and basically insane.
LikeLike
FLERP,
As a former conservative, I consider myself WOKE but I am not a cultural Marxist, nor a leftwing extremist.
I believe that all people in our rich society-regardless of wealth or class or origin–should have a decent life–healthcare, housing, good schools, food and physical safety.
LikeLike
Speduktr: I think Lenny missed the point, or he is just being funny. CBK
LikeLike
I wasn’t really addressing it to Lenny. Just wondering what the heck cultural Marxism is.
LikeLike
speduktr: Probably depends on how it’s used (cultural Marxism) in context. But Marxism is a fairly technical meaning in political philosophy, so look it up and then apply its political meaning to how it would emerge in a cultural context.
But in my experience with such terms, it’s best to ask what the person using it means by it, and you might find out the person knows less about Marxism as a political system (and how it has emerged in different historical situations) than you do.
First rule in discussions in my philosophy classes: Explain what you mean by terms that some might misunderstand or have a different meaning for. When everyone knows the meaning of terms used in any conversation, it makes for much better understanding, and far less (endless) confusion. CBK
LikeLike
Which is why I asked. I think I’m getting there although I’m not sure Miguel has any idea what it means given who is trying to shove whose values down whose throats. It’s like accusing someone of not listening to them when actually it’s just a matter of not agreeing. You don’t have to let your kids read To Kill a Mockingbird. Just don’t try to tell me what my kids can read. You don’t have to believe in abortion. Just don’t force your religious beliefs on me (or decide my daughter should die because her nonviable fetus has a heartbeat).
LikeLike
I agree, defining terms is essential to effective communication. I’ve seen a debate where, when I suggested it, the leader specifically declined because they wanted participants to be “free to express themselves”(!).
In some conversations, I make a point of avoiding terms that have become increasingly emotionally charged (e.g., racist, facist, bigot, Nazi — even if it applies) because once one of those words enters a discussion, whatever the topic was becomes immediately diverted to what the word means, to whom it applies, &/or anger at its use.
Oh, & you were right — I didn’t get it, but after reading the rest of this thread, I think I do now.😵💫
LikeLike
Lenny: BTW: Defining terms is also an essential element of scientific communications, and now most if not all specialist language, even car mechanics–one of science’s greatest contributions to human history, in my view . . . but not an option NOT to have everyone understand exactly what, say, Einstein meant by E=MC2. Otherwise, massive problems can ensue.
Can you imagine if, during surgery, your doctors and nurses did not know exactly what everything meant in the same way? I shudder to think . . . CBK
LikeLike
FLERP!
Are you forgetting that Marx was writing about mostly homogeneous societies. And at a time women were an underclass of their own. Certainly not the breadwinners except by necessity. Further they had only recently had any contractual rights.
LikeLike
I’m just telling people what “cultural Marxism” means on the right today.
LikeLike
I guess I am still operating on a high school definition of Marxism where the people are in charge not an elite class. You can tell the last time I dealt with this topic.I still don’t understand how Democrats can be called cultural Marxists. As a recovered Republican the Democrats represented a breath of fresh air. They actually cared about people who didn’t start out with a cushion. They had some understanding of the farcical nature of “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps” when you didn’t have any boots. Seemed to be a more Christian worldview to me than that espoused by the robber baron class. That’s a bit harsh, but capitalism has really shown its ugly, greedy side over the last several decades.
LikeLike
FLERP!
Where do you draw the line between being woke and being honest.
LikeLike
Good reality check.
LikeLike
In this video with Jon Stewart, Professor Heather Cox Richardson cements her position as a public intellectual. Well worth your time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7cKOaBdFWo
LikeLike
“lots of people voted for the opposite of what they thought they wanted” because of the disinformation.
LikeLike
democracy
I am afraid it is a bit more nefarious than that. They sought out that misinformation. As they rejected the truth.
LikeLike
Democracy: I guess ignorant and misinformed voters will find out soon enough. CBK
LikeLike
Catherine KingYou mean like they found out in West Virginia. Sadly it seems to take a Black Swan event for people to make paradigm shifts.. Obama actually had that moment and took exactly the wrong approach. Which is how we wound up here. Perhaps as the First Black President he was unable to take the risk. Or perhaps it was absolutely who he was. Andrew Sullivan never said much I could tolerate. However when he called Sanders a Demagogue he was spot on .Sanders was my type of Demagogue. This sound familiar from another President: “We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace–business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering.
They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.
Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me–and I welcome their hatred.
Democrars I should like to have it said of my first Administration that in it the forces of selfishness and of lust for power met their match. I should like to have it said of my second Administration that in it these forces met their master.” That certainly was not what happened as the Warrens and Brooksley Borns were shooed out of the room to be replaced by the Rubins and Geithners putting the foxes in charge of the hen house. Biden actually came in and went big for the American working class or attempted to with razor thin margins . The media owned by that 1% launched an assault starting right in the fall of 2021. As the Democratic party took shelter in their mouse holes allowing Biden to take all the fire. Again I will repeat: Why am I still hearing on Legacy Media (I am not talking about Fox or Sinclair ) about high gas prices ???????. Gas is at $2.80 down the block from me today, it is relatively cheap . In terms of hours worked to fill a tank and millage driven ,it is dirt cheap. The malaise caused by inflation was a media creation. 70 % tell pollsters that they were doing okay or well their communities the same. Of course they were . Either their wages or investments had exceeded inflation. Their discretionary spending increasing steadily. Yet 70% said the national economy sucked .How does that happen. Do we have 250 million Studs Terkel’s traveling the Nation?
LikeLike
Watching it right now, Christine. And, it IS very good. Thanks for the recommendation.
Part of my unfolding plan to deal with this national crisis is to be selective and to moderate the sheer volume of information I’m taking in. To be judicious. To find and frame a thoughtful response.
Lucky to have this blog and the people on here.
LikeLike
Good video. Thanks for the recommendation.
LikeLike
Christine: Best video/podcast of all. I was glued to it the whole way through. Cox Richardson is a breath of political fresh air. CBK
LikeLike
When police roundups of migrant families don’t deliver on all of trump’s outrageous promises, what group(s) will he go after next? He’ll deny failure. He’ll blame it on anyone but himself. And, he will always, always find someone else to scapegoat.
I sure hope the Democrats are starting to have private discussions with the smoldering remains of the old Republican Party. (Not to be confused with what should now be called the Trump Party.)
What is the tripwire for defenders of the U.S. Constitution? How far is too far for Trump?
The trumpsters are pushing full speed ahead.
Where do we draw the line? And, how far will we go to defend that line?
LikeLike
Based on “Republicans for Harris,” it seems those conversations have already begun. Let’s hope they continue. The only R’s I’ve seen draw a clear line have been the Cheneys & Mike Pence. It actually got bad enough for them to come out as heroes. I do respect them for maintaining, & for that matter, having, principles. The others seemed to just quietly slink away, taking no responsibility for making a deal with the devil. Their silence is deafening. It’s certainly not the Republican Party anymore. The new proprietors just forgot to change the sign on the door. I think “Neoconfederate Party” has a nice ring.
LikeLike
We’ll see who else steps up, from the national “stage” all the way to small towns.
There’s a lawyer here in Hancock, NY, an older gentleman, who has taken a very principled and thoughtful approach to criticizing the trumpists on social media. He’s bringing the fire, come what may, in a conservative area Upstate.
LikeLike
My question is who is going to be able to do anything about those mistakes? Prior to this election, the Democrats won the popular vote for 7 of the previous 8 presidential elections. Since 2016, the Democrats out performed or came out on top in every substantive election. Once Harris took the reins, all we heard was that she needed to tack to the right by separating from Biden and recruiting as many Republican ex-pats as possible to win. What the Democratic establishment didn’t seem to understand was that those Repiublicans that got behind Harris were not nationally popular even before Trump. The Republican Party was already heading toward Trump before they even knew Trump was a reality. Dick Cheney was despised for his role in the forever wars, Democrats loathed Liz Cheney for being perceived as a war hawk. Most of the Republicans who campaigned so visibly for Harris were not especially trusted by Democrats or the general public.
For some reason Democrats are timid about promoting their policies while trying to lure in Republicans who basically saw this opportunity as a way to promote their myths, such as small government and neoliberal economics. Obama won both of his presidential campaigns but was abandoned during both midterms which were disasters for the Democratic Party. I’m not saying Democrats should have pushed left, but they at least should have defended their positions and victories in Congress.
Democrats have to begin promoting their positions, not running away from them. Would that have made a difference this time around? I don’t know, but at least the American Public would be aware of the options once chaos hits. I would guess a third of Trump’s supporters are the hard core bigots that will push the anti-immigrant, anti-women, anti-LGBT policies. However, the rest who voted for Trump believed things were better pre-covid and the Democrats did a terrible job highlighting Trump’s previous turn in the White House and refused to articulate the values of the early Biden successes.
The oligarchy that has now so corrupted the political process has neutered the Democratic Party and unleashed a Republican base that looks to do terrible harm. I hope we will be able to pick up the pieces after the fall. If not, we will simply look for another savior to make things worse.
LikeLike
And still no Bob? Hope he is just taking a break for now.
LikeLike
LisaM,
Bob has been recovering from a serious illness. Bacterial infection he got while walking in flood waters near his Florida home.
LikeLike
Oh god
LikeLike
l am so sorry to hear this & sending good wishes to Bob for a speedy recovery. 🐔🍲 for him.
LikeLike
Sorry to hear that about Bob . He is missed.
LikeLike
Wow! Wishing Bob a speedy & full recovery!
LikeLike
Sending positive vibes to Bob. Hope he’s back on his feet very soon.
LikeLike
“Freedom means you decide who you are. And then when things change around you. You CONTINUE to be that person.
And in so doing you do constructive work.
You set an EXAMPLE for other people.
You meet NEW people who are also trying to remain themselves.”
Yale Historian Timothy Snyder
https://digbysblog.net/2024/11/10/timothy-snyder-on-fascism/
LikeLike
“When people are afraid, they’re willing to excuse a lot. And they are afraid. Some of these fears are the result of years of fecklessness by “elites” of both parties. Some are propagated by liars who thrive on fear.
How do we live with those supportive of & okay with grave injustices? We find ways to win people back to the cause of liberal democracy.
We CAN’T disengage. We don’t have the luxury of writing people off. We have to fight for the good of everyone in this country, quelling their well-founded fears & showing the way out of unfounded ones. And in the meantime we protect those who will suffer the worst a DJT administration will bring—the undocumented, workers, the poor, the environment. Fight for them, and DON’T be afraid.”
https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/we-cant-disengage
LikeLike
[Personal Note:
I have gotten behind on my reading of this blog. However, I have to point out that every comment I leave on one blog post is then covered in the next blog post waiting for me as if I already commented on it in a previous conversation without knowing the topic would be the next focus. I don’t know if it’s a coincidence, but I’m starting to think that Diane is following my own train of thought. This is some Matrix-level synchronicity.]
Thanks for this blog, Dr. Ravitch. 🙂
LikeLike
LG, great minds think alike!
LikeLike
So sorry to hear about Bob. I miss him here and hope he can find his way out of his medical situation. CBK
LikeLike