Andrew Tobias is a financial analyst and author who posts an occasional comment on his blog. He watched the debate, reacted as many of us did, then thought twice after he watched Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC the following night. He invites you to watch too.
He wrote:
Before I get to the important thing, it’s also important to thank all of you who came last night (see below), all those who couldn’t but gave anyway, and all of you who are helping in other ways.
So now:
Thursday night’s debate was horrible.
My first reaction was to post something very short and noncommittal (read it here, if you want) — and I stand by every word.
But privately, like almost all my friends and donors and the press, I was ready to pull the emergency cord. Open convention! Open convention!But, boy, did Lawrence O’Donnell last night provide the perspective we all need.
I cannot urge you strongly enough to watch or to listen (wherever you get podcasts).
That’s what I posted just now (in case you feel moved to share it), along with these two personal notes.
First: at our event last night I got to watch the President in action. He was terrific. But let me put it in perspective.
In my case, knowing I would have to meet and greet lots of donors and then speak for four minutes, I didn’t get out of bed until 11, took it easy all day, suited up around 5, armed myself with an Advil and some Hall’s menthol eucalyptus lozenges, took the subway down to the Hammerstein ballroom and, after an hour of pre-event reception, glad-handing new and old friends over fairly loud background music, had lost my voice. And had that weird thing where one of my ear drums had gone into a hard-to-describe “echo” mode. (Has that ever happened to you?) So I stopped talking (“yes!” I hear those of you who know me best cry) and eventually the 400 or so of us at that reception went downstairs to the main event.
I knew I was the last speaker on the program and, one way or another, would make it through my little remarks and welcome Alan Cumming back on stage to close the night out. (If you don’t know Alan Cumming, look him up. He is as charming and cheeky and talented as anyone on the planet.) And I did get through my four minutes. My voice had returned and my eardrum had righted itself. But that was my day. For a four-minute talk.
In the President’s case, he got up after however much sleep he had after that debate (I’m guessing not much?), flew to a rally in Raleigh where he was strong and terrific (watch or listen for clips), shaking hands and interacting with dozens of people, flew to New York for a rally with Elton John and loads of dignitaries at the Stonewall Inn, shaking hands and personally connecting with dozens more people, and then arrived at the Hammerstein ballroom, met individually for photos with each of more than 50 couples, interacting with each, then spoke to 900 of us SO well and SO forcefully that one of you — who is no billionaire, by the way — came over to me afterward and gave another half million dollars.
See the difference?
And even I, with the bandwidth to do just one event moderately well, would be a vastly better president than Trump. (Hold that thought.)
But in a debate?
And that brings me to my second personal note.
A long time ago I wrote a book about the insurance industry. And back then, I used to get paid tons of money to “speak” — typically, 45 minutes followed by Q&A followed by book signing.
The book made it onto the Times best-seller list for 10 weeks because the publisher got me onto a few national TV shows and every local radio show in the world.
The speeches were easy. I was usually pretty good. The occasional standing ovation, even. Only bombed three times (seared deeply into my memory).
But the TV and radio appearances — which had always been a breeze with prior books — were a nightmare. Because the insurance industry had somehow obtained my schedule and gotten the stations always to book one of their people “for balance.” And I was terrible, even after the first few times, because I could do little more than sputter. They were saying so many things that were simply untrue or misleading or designed to keep me from finishing my point. It was combat, and I’m not good at combat; or at keeping my cool when someone lies and I know I should keep my cool, but . . . it was awful. I was awful.
And yet I really was the one telling the truth. And the subtitle of the book (“Everything the Insurance Industry Never Wanted you to Know”) was true — there was a lot they didn’t want you to know . . . and were really good at keeping people from knowing it. And making my head explode. I can only imagine what it would have been like if I had had, in addition, a lifelong stutter to overcome.
And still I’m telling you:
- I would be a vastly better president than Trump.
- Joe Biden is a vastly better president than I could ever be.
- Please, please, please watch or listen to that Lawrence O’Donnell.
Have a great weekend.
One way or another, we’re gonna win!

”One way or the other, we’re going to win”?
There is only one way to win.
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We now know that winning the most votes is not the way to win.
Only a few states will determine the outcome.
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Yes!! The electoral college is how we elect presidents because we are a representative republic. It is a shame that our education system has failed to teach civics and properly informed democrats of this REALITY! If you read the Federalist papers, as my children did at their charter school, you would understand why the founders created this genius method.
Instead, democrats rail against it as they rail against most parts of the Constitution. To quote a great man “sad”.
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The period goes inside the quotation marks, Jacqui.
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I tell Americans this all the time but it never seeps through their skulls.
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And there should be a comma before “sad.”
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Diane Ravitch continues to try to persuade people that they didn’t see and hear what they actually saw and heard last Thursday night. Fortunately, there are other liberals who deal in reality.
“President Biden’s surrogates attempted to brush off the debate performance. Aides claimed he had a cold. Vice President Kamala Harris argued the leader of the free world should be evaluated on the totality of his presidency, not one night. Former President Barack Obama took to social media and said, “Bad debate nights happen.”
These responses are insulting to the American people.
This wasn’t a bad night; it was confirmation of the worst fears of some of Biden’s most ardent supporters — that after 36 years in the U.S. Senate, eight more as vice president and a term in the White House, age has finally caught up to him.”
https://www.ajc.com/opinion/its-time-for-biden-to-pass-the-torch/6PO45RNWDFH4FAUYGR56TPRMHM/
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Talk about bad nights, what about the bad night of Trump who spewed lies non stop. The point is that Trump is such a horrible human being and serial liar who must not get back into the White House; I will vote for Biden in spite of his horrible performance on that ONE night. In subsequent days, Biden has performed much better. I won’t condemn Biden for that one utter disaster.
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Name the lies.
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Daniel Dale of CNN cited 50 lies by Trump on debate night, 6 by Biden.
During Trump’s term in office, the Washington Post Fact-Checker counted over 30,000 lies by Trump.
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The opinion of democrat hacks means nothing to me. Joe Biden’s entire Life is a lie.
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Jackie, here’s one time Trump told the truth. He said on tape that “when you’re famous,” women let you do anything. Just “grab them by the p—-y.” How did you feel when you heard that?
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Here are some of Trump’s lies from the debate:
Trump’s repeat falsehoods included his assertions that some Democratic-led states allow babies to be executed after birth, that every legal scholar and everybody in general wanted Roe v. Wade overturned, that there were no terror attacks during his presidency, that Iran didn’t fund terror groups during his presidency, that the US has provided more aid to Ukraine than Europe has, that Biden for years referred to Black people as “super predators,” that Biden is planning to quadruple people’s taxes, that then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi turned down 10,000 National Guard troops for the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, that Americans don’t pay the cost of his tariffs on China and other countries, that Europe accepts no American cars, that he is the president who got the Veterans Choice program through Congress, and that fraud marred the results of the 2020 election.
Trump also added some new false claims, such as his assertions that the US currently has its biggest budget deficit and its biggest trade deficit with China. Both records actually occurred under Trump.
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Biden lies:
Soldiers did die during his presidency
There are seven democrat states that have no limitation abortion and refuse care to the poor children who survive a botched abortion
He repeated AGAIN the “very fine people hoax.”
Donald Trump does NOT want to end Medicare.
The Border Patrol Union endorsed Trump, not Biden.
The top 1 percent of taxpayers pay 26 percent, NOT 8.2 percent.
He lied about drug prices, border crossings, and the unemployment rate.
The biggest lie, which the DNC, Media, and his gross family participated in is that Joe Biden is not fit for office. We elect one person to the Executive branch, not a “team.”
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Bill,
We are all entitled to our opinion. I will vote for Biden. You can vote for whoever you want. That’s the American way.
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Diane,
You and I will vote the same way in 2024, and we have the same low regard for Trump. But that’s not what my point is. Anyone who continues to insist that Joe Biden has not suffered serious cognitive decline is either a liar or a blind partisan who is immune to reason. I don’t think that you’re a liar.
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Bill,
I agree that Biden looked awful on debate night. But being President is not a game show, where you are judged by your snappy answer and quick wit.
To date, I have agreed with Biden on the issues. He and his team have experience, wisdom, knowledge and good judgment.
The only issue where he has disappointed me is education. He did not crack down on standardized testing as he promised. He did nothing to curb charters. He has not spoken out against vouchers. Education is not an important issue to him. Secretary Cardona has been a huge disappointment. He says little or nothing about privatization or testing or fraud by charters. I think he has orders not to make waves. He speaks in vacuous platitudes.
But vigorously support Biden despite his education non-policies, because Trump would be end public education and obliterate the line between church and state. On education, Trump is an F-.
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Bill Kenndey: The Democratic bench (both people and policies) is too deep to ignore . . . but doesn’t even need to be to leave Trump so far behind as to be out of sight.
Trump loses in every field except evil-doing. CBK
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It’s clear Biden does better when he has teleprompters. Unfortunately, nobody will forget what happened at last week’s debate. That’s burned in.
If the next set of polls are basically unchanged, then the clamor to replace Biden may die down.
If the polls show Biden has taken a hit from the debate performance, the clamor will grow.
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As we have seen with Trump, the public has a short memory.
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https://steveschmidt.substack.com/p/there-is-nothing-more-important-than?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=836444&post_id=146129713&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=1metx&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
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There is nothing more important than stopping Trump from taking powerhttps://steveschmidt.substack.com/p/there-is-nothing-more-important-than?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=836444&post_id=146129713&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=1metx&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
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This is a good article that provides some perspective on the whirlwind that Biden has been on. At any age it is a schedule that would disorient many younger people. Debate skills are not essential to sound leadership, but understanding history and the principles of our hard fought for democracy are. Biden is backed by a well seasoned team of experts, and he is in good hands. Team DJT is backed by a bunch of amoral liars, unhinged zealots and kleptocrats out to line their pockets with public cash. It shouldn’t be a difficult decision for most sane Americans.
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Biden is backed by a well seasoned team of experts, and he is in good hands. Team DJT is backed by a bunch of amoral liars, unhinged zealots and kleptocrats out to line their pockets with public cash. It shouldn’t be a difficult decision for most sane Americans.
Great encapsulation, RT! Concise. To the point. Spot on!!!
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Who gives a rat’s ass about punctuation, Bob, 😂😂😂 I see spelling errors and grammatical errors on this page ALL the time, but I ignore them. It’s a clear sign when Bob is fresh out of reasoned arguments that he will attack the person. I hope you don’t treat your students that way.
Take hope, Bob. Maybe Joe Briben will do better in his second debate.
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It’s time to eat Gramma.
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But, of course, you Trumpanzees are profoundly anti-intellectual, are actually proud of your ignorance, wear it like a badge of honor, admire it in your Glorious Leader. It is not at all surprising that saying something carefully, accurately means nothing to you.
as Donald Trump did, btw
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Bob is fresh out of reasoned arguments
Gosh, I had some arguments lying around here somewhere. Maybe they were washed away by the freaking river of sewage flowing from Trump’s mouth the other night.
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Bob: Maga wears (ignorance) “like a badge of honor.” Truer words . . . .
It is what it is., however. And apparently the MAGA closet has what it has, and only that; and if that’s all you have, I guess it’s what you wear.
I would say to Jackie what my uncle said to those whom he would not suffer:
Go on down the road, Jackie. You can keep trying to kill your political mother, but do it somewhere else. CBK
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I am grateful to Diane for having patience and allowing the occasional Trumpanzee to post here. It’s instructive to learn from their own posts how breathtakingly ignorant they are, to learn the extent to which they have been indoctrinated in falsehoods by Reichwing media and, of course, by their Glorious Leader, the non-Christian seditious sexist racist career conman and criminal traitor and seditionist and pathological liar and malignant psychotic narcissist who would not suffer them for two minutes in his club because that’s only for other wealthy grifters like him.
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wow! How generous of Diane to allow one dissenter to the mad hatred on the left. Unfortunately, she lets Bob insult people instead of engaging in ideas. I won’t react in kind. Your side is losing. It is up to you how you respond, civilly, or uncivilly. Have a good day, Bob.
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You, too, Jacqui.
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Jackie,
There have many Trumpers on this blog. Mostly they arrive to tell me that I have disgraced myself and lost my reputation because they disagree with me.
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Bob: I doubt any of those things on your list made it to the requirements on the presidential job description. Some of the MAGA people I know refer to “Trump haters” and act as if there is no reason in the world to actually despise the man. CBK
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He is such a lowlife on so many fronts. This shows you the extent to which people are able completely to deny and avoid reality.
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I’m turning 79 in August, and in (knock on wood) excellent health for my age. I still do all the yardwork for my house. I got up at 6:00 AM this morning to put in 2.5 hours of outdoor work in the yard before the heat hit. When the heat hits, my body can’t take it. As long as it’s cool, my energy level doesn’t drop to zero like it does in the heat.
When needed, once or twice a year, I get out the ladder, climb to the roof, clean out the gutters and wash off the solar panels. I also inspect the roof to patch any spots that look like they need it.
I am still doing major home improvement projects for the serious fixer upper I bought in 2016. I was in my early 70s when I pulled all the original cheap crappy flooring and replaced them with solid tongue-and-groove wood flooring. That was one of the many heavy-duty work projects on a long list that I’ve completed with more to come.
I take no medications because I don’t have any health problems that require them. Knock on wood again.
I exercise one to two hours a day except for Sundays when I do yardwork because that’s also exercise and harder on my body than the exercise routines. Yardwork for me includes mowing, trimming, landscaping with shovels and picks, mixing concrete, et al. I can’t do that when it’s hot. The heat knocks me out.
And after that, I clean up and spend a few hours on marketing my book online, usually monitoring or creating new Amazon ADs and working on another chapter, or two, for my next thriller.
Saturday, yesterday, I was up at 2:00 AM writing a new blog post that took about an hour before I returned to bed.
And I could not do what Biden is doing traveling all over the country campaigning like he is.
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Great piece by O’Donnell.
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I watched O’Donnell, and my response is: IT’S TIME TO STEP ASIDE, JOE!
Biden has indeed been a good President; and he is a fundamentally good and moral person. Nevertheless, in the world of practical politics, he is all too likely to lose to despicable Trump who would bring our republic to its knees. So, Biden must not be the Democratic Party candidate for President in the November election.
HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT!!!
America is long, long overdue for a woman President.
Long overdue.
Within the next few weeks, Biden should resign as President, citing health reasons, some of which are clearly evident. That would give Harris national exposure as America’s first woman President and would ignite women of all ethnic backgrounds to want to see her continue as President. That block of voters would tip the election in her favor over Trump.
I won’t vote for Trump. I won’t vote for Biden. If Biden is on the ticket, I’ll write-in Kamala Harris; and if Trump wins, that will be the fault of the Democratic Party’s lame “leadership”.
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I find students’ “performance” on standardized tests far less disturbing than systems that inhibit and even prohibit their moral and ethical education development and learning to learn.
Likewise, I was much less disturbed by Biden’s “performance” than by thinking of media (systems) that have taken to lowering Joe Bid to the selfish, morally and ethically empty level of wannabe dictator Donald Trump, and deeming doing so balanced coverage. Like the CNN-staged “debate” (dare it be called that) did.
During the so-called debate, I found myself thinking it would have been fine by me had Biden recapped major key dangers to the nation and to the world inherent in Trump’s wickedness and then simply retreated—that is, walked off.
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Biden’s Faustean bargain with the devil appears to be wearing off and his time is up. That is good for the country.
Now the entire country can see that the media, Jill, Carrine, and Biden’s cabinet have been LYING to us about Joe Biden’s condition. No one will trust the democrat party for decades to come. No one should. They lied to us when Biden ran for election from his basement in 2020. The real question is; who has been president for the past three years. It sure wasn’t Brandon.
Our enemies are watching and know full well that the time to attack is now while we have a Demented president. All democrats care about is Power.
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I’m a long time reader of this blog. It educates me and exposes me to new views and very smart people.
You are not one of them.
Your constant stream of lies and projection, ad nauseum ad hominem invective and unsubstantiated insults only expose how beholden you are to right-wing (or Kremlin, take your pick) agitprop. Maybe read the article on the Gish Gallop and ask yourself “does this remind me of anyone”?
By the way, that’s a doozy of a last sentence considering your support of a felonious Russia-owned seditious raping insurrectionist.
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Callisto: says to Jackie: “You are not one of them.”
In Trump-land, blogs like this, whose moderators let even melted brains like Jackie talk anyway, would not exist. CBK
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There is no such thing as “Trumpland.” You are talking about half of the American people, some of these people you probably know and love, so the “Bidenville” people may want to stop calling people NAZIs who are not NAZIs.
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Are Trump and His Supporters in Fact Fascists? | Bob Shepherd | Praxis (wordpress.com)
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Hello Jacqui: MAGA people presently live in a political world that enables their own freedoms and where they benefit from democracy (for all its messy foibles).
However, my take is that most, if not all, do not know what fascism is or what happens under fascist political rule. My understanding of it is that they also live with the fantasy expectations that nothing will change if “we” usher in Trump and his brand of fascism. If my MAGA family knew political history, they wouldn’t belong to MAGA in any way, shape, or form. And BTW, to make America Great is to keep it in its present political form where the rule of law is for everyone. If they don’t know or care about Trump’s vacuous criminality, then they have sand in their ears.
. . . and to call a criminal-run state fascism is not a joke. Bye-Bye the rule of law where it’s a kingship but without bloodlines or a sense of noblesse oblige. Just raw power in the hands of those who are thoughtless, self-serving, and not accountable for their actions . . . except this: Kiss the ring, bow down, and hope they don’t cut your head off, after they go after your family.
Trump or anyone, if democratic-minded people get angry or even violent, it will be because the MAGA ignorant and/or evil dragged everyone else down their fascist rabbit hole. CBK
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This is all very nice spin. But we saw what we saw, and Biden is not likely to be much better the next time he has to speak extemp under pressure. And that means that “low information” voters are going to stay away. And that is going to get Trump elected–just as it did when Hillary Clinton failed to campaign in swing states. We can’t afford the arrogance and smugness of insider members of the commentariat. We need to get a president elected. Who cares what O’Donnell thinks about the relevance of the debate? Think about voters–not MSNBC flacks who are pals with Ron Klain.
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PS Don’t tell me you’re going to vote for Biden, or that he’s a good guy. I know. And I’ll vote for Biden if he’s the candidate. Because I want to save the country too, maybe more than his advisers do, I’m starting to think. Because I also want the people who aren’t going to vote for the Biden they see on TV to help save the country…to vote for the Democrat. PPS, O’Donnell’s “magical candidate” _is_ Kamala Harris, with Biden’s endorsement. Don’t need polling data–need Democratic solidarity and someone who can energetically take the message to the people.
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I’ll vote for anyone against Trump.
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And that is going to get Trump elected–just as it did when Hillary Clinton failed to campaign in swing states. We can’t afford the arrogance and smugness of insider members of the commentariat. We need to get a president elected.
Spot on. But a lot of Democrats would rather float down the River De Nile.
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