Thom Hartmann posted some of his thoughts about the election, and they are well worth reading. I particularly enjoyed his reporting on Trump’s friendship with Putin in 2016, which refutes Trump’s constant claim that he was exonerated by the Muelker Report. He wasn’t.
I also appreciated his sharp takedown of The New York Times for repeatedly running negative stores about Biden in its front page.
Here’s a part of what he wrote:
— How 2016 WAS stolen — with help from Russia! Bette Midler recently asked on X, “Can you imagine what would have happened if Hillary Clinton had claimed the election was stolen?” That simple tweet has sent the right-wing-o-sphere into a paroxysm of hysteria. But the more we learn about what happened in 2016, the clearer it is that without Putin’s intervention — from hacking Hillary’s emails to spending millions of dollars and investing hundreds of thousands of man-hours on social media — Clinton would have easily won the election. As Frank Vyan Walton writes over on Daily Kos:
“Don Jr. met personally with a Russia lawyer in order to get dirt on the Hillary campaign. They were told by Russian operatives about the GRU hack of the DNC emails system months before it came out. Trump said ‘Russia if you’re listening…’ Trump kept working on the Trump Tower Russia project until mid-2016 and lied about it, while secretly in negotiations with Dmitri Peskov. Paul Manafort gave internal polling data to a GRU operative, Konstantin Kilimnick. Carter Page was told about the sale of 19.5% of Rosneft stock even though it was a sanctioned company and he couldn’t legally profit from that. Roger Stone was in contact with a Russian operative, Guccifer 2.0, and arranged for Wikileaks to release the Podesta emails in order to distract from the Access Hollywood tape. Michael Flynn suggested Trump would drop sanctions on Russia if they didn’t react to Obama expelling their diplomats for…. wait for it… interfering with the election. Five members of Trump’s entourage — Papadopoulos, Stone, Flynn, Van Der Zwaan and Cohen — were prosecuted and convicted for lying under oath about their contacts with Russia. They all did time, the cases were proven.” There’s more over at Frank’s Kos article, which is well worth the read.
— Is Putin trying to move his border into the Baltics? You Betcha! Russia has a small slice of land bordering the Baltic Sea that’s a Russian territory called Kaliningrad. This week the Russian Ministry of Defense, in a move reminiscent of China’s encroachment on Taiwan’s territorial waters, put Europe on notice that they intend to declare part of that sea as Russian territory, an extension of Kalainingrad’s territorial waters. The leaders of the Baltic states are freaked out, as Putin moves the world, one step at a time, closer to the possibility of World War III.
— Here’s a poll that I’ll bet won’t show up on the front page of the New York Times. The Times admitted yesterday that the “Biden is losing” polls they’ve been trumpeting for months in an effort to force the president to do a sit-down interview with the paper’s owner/publisher have been based on phony information. Instead of polling exclusively “likely voters” based on their having voted in the 2020 election, they’ve been polling Democratic voters who didn’t bother to vote last time and probably won’t this time. In fact, as D. Earl Stephens reports at his excellent Substack newsletter Enough Already, the more likely somebody is not to vote this year, the more likely they are to say they’ll vote for Trump. Even worse, a new Navigator Research poll finds that 58% of Americans want our government to crack down on corporate price gouging and 53% want the feds to do something about the cost of healthcare and prescription drugs. These are all strong Democratic and Biden issues, but don’t expect to see this poll on the front page of the Times; that’s reserved for the latest Trumpy news.
— Speaking of polls, do you know what that money Michael Cohen confessed to “stealing” from Trump was for? It was $20K out of a paper bag with $50,000 cash in it that was paid to online services company RedFinch to juice an online poll about Trump. Seriously. They were apparently paid to post thousands or hundreds of thousands of phony online votes to swing the 2016 poll to make Trump look more popular as a businessman than he really was. It reminds me that when he came down the escalator in 2015, the crowd waiting for him was a group of actors paid $50/hour to hold Trump signs and cheer. Why aren’t our media reporting this? And how many polls today are Trump paying to juice?

“Can you imagine what would have happened if Hillary Clinton had claimed the election was stolen?”
Hillary has been claiming exactly that for 8 years now, when the simple truth is that she lost an election to an orange reality TV show that she hand picked! The numerous reasons for this have been well-documented, most especially her failure to campaign in crucial swing states and her painting a vast swath of Americans as “a basket of deplorables” and another vast swath as “superpredators”. Whatever meager influence Russian may have had (which paled by orders of magnitude compared to Israel’s influence, incidentally) was a drop in the bucket compared to Hillary’s own choices. Stop blaming and take responsibility because it’s going to happen again because of the choices Democrats continue to make.
Free advice, worth every penny, just don’t b!tch at me when the orange convicted felon gets elected over the genocider come November.
BTW, post this or don’t, respond or don’t, I don’t care. I won’t respond.
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
–incorrectly attributed to Mahatma Gandhi
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Ten days before the 2016 election, Hillary was 8 points ahead in all the polls when FBI leader James Comey announced that the FBI was reopening the investigation of her emails. A week later, he said the investigation was finished but it was too late. Trump was a buffoon then; now we know he’s a fascist and a convicted felon. The election was stolen by Comey. Every candidate makes mistakes. Hers mattered less than Comey’s totally inappropriate last-minute subversion of her candidacy. I worked in the federal government. Every appointee is sternly warned not to do or say anything that would affect the election in the last month before the vote.
Trump’s supporters, we now know, are in fact “deplorable,” unless you think that the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, Moms for Liberty, and the 1/6 insurrectionists are “fine people.”
And for your information, Trump will avidly support anything that Israel does. He just won the support of multibillionaire Miriam Adelson, who has pledged to give him even more than last election, when she and her late husband Sheldon Adelson gave Trump $90 million. Miriam was born in Israel; she is a physician. Trump awarded her the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian honor. Jared Kushner has plans to build luxury condos on the beautiful waterfront in Gaza.
Biden has worked tirelessly to negotiate a peace deal.
If Trump wins, you will miss Biden.
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Okay, I said I wouldn’t respond, but I have to. Yes, Trump supporters are “deplorable”. But so is anyone who is supporting a president who is currently actively arming and financing……[Israel]. Let me know when any president is convicted of war crimes, then maybe I’ll care. I don’t care about hush money to prostitutes when Clinton and Biden are both credibly accused of sexual harassment and rape.
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Dienne,
The word “genocide” is not permitted on this site, except for references to the Armenian genocide, the Holocaust, and Chinese persecution of its Uyghur minority (sterilization, incarceration in concentration camps). These were and are calculated efforts to erase the very existence of a designated group. The murder of thousands of civilians in Gaza is a horrible tragedy, a horrible misuse of arms, but it is not a genocide.
The war should end as quickly as possible, today, now.
Israel should stop bombing in Gaza, period. Hamas and Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad should stop firing rockets into populated areas of Israel. All the hostages should be released. The parties should negotiate a two-state solution. All Israeli settlements on the West Bank should be dismantled.
I oppose the war, I hope that the parties can agree to a peace settlement. Biden is working diligently to bring about a peace agreement that both parties will accept. Trump will let Netanyahu continue and send him even more arms. His primary funder is an Israeli-American multi billionaire.
Nikki Haley just returned from Israel where she wrote on a bomb “Finish them!”
Also, Biden was NOT “credibly accused” of sexual crimes. He was accused by a woman named Tara Reade who was a passionate admirer of Putin. She wrote Putin a gushing letter. After her unfounded accusations were dismissed, she moved to Russia.
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Wow, someone who actively supported Putin’s annihilation of Ukraine cities and families has the chutzpah to call Bernie Sanders and AOC and Diane Ravitch “deplorables”??
I think this person owes Diane Ravitch an apology.
I know many young people who are actively anti-Israel who are able to harshly criticize Biden’s Israel policies and still understand that voting to enable Trump (as some deluded much older folks did in 2016) “helps” the Palestinians the same way that those deluded folks voting against the Democrat in 2016 “helped” the progressive movement by empowering a right wing Supreme Court that has made it much harder for progressive legislation to happen – and will do so for decades.
Despite their harsh criticism of Biden, I haven’t seen a call from politicians who actually care about Palestinians to vote against Biden in the general election – except those who are Republican. And I do hear that call from the same white privileged people who condoned Putin’s bombing of the Ukraine people and who only seem to care about Palestinians when they can be used to attack Democrats.
There is a reason that Netanyahu is so rabidly pro-Trump and pro-Republican and can ignore Biden administration pressure. He understands that the folks who want us to join them in being anti-Biden because of his Israel policy are more concerned with defeating Biden than helping the Palestinians. A Trump victory would be a disaster for Palestinians, while a Biden/Democrat victory would put fear in Netanyahu.
The squad is NOT saying that there is no difference for the Palestinians in whether Biden or Trump is president. Rashida Tlaib has been very critical of Biden’s policies – ironically the people attacking her most are the Trumpies.
The proof that the Palestinians are just a talking point for the Democrat haters on the left is that even if Rashida Tlaib ends up supporting Biden in the GENERAL election, they will still be saying that voting 3rd party is good, because making things even worse for the Palestinians will be an acceptable outcome for them. Just like sacrificing the Supreme Court and the chance for a repeal of Citizens United and a more progressive future was an acceptable outcome in 2016.
If Biden wins in November, there will be huge pressure on Netanyahu, whom the Biden administration does NOT like. If Trump wins, it’s a disaster. The squad cares about that. But those here whose main goal is to have Biden defeated and NOT to help the Palestinians are the deplorable ones.
I won’t be back for a while. I wish that others whose main goal is to defeat the Dems and normalize Trump would stop posting their hate-filled rants as well. Calling Diane Ravitch deplorable because she understands the difference between Trump and Biden should be a permanent banning offense. Especially when coming from someone whose support of Palestinians seems about as sincere as the right wing Republicans support of Israel. When the Palestinians cease to be a weapon to wield against Democrats, the Republican policy that is far more pro-genocide will be as acceptable to them as it was when Trump was president — Trump’s pro-Israel policies were not worthy of them ever mentioning, let alone harshly criticize.
I think folks like Rashida Tlaib will be treated the way these Dem haters now treat Bernie Sanders and AOC. If a politician isn’t fighting to defeat the Democrat and turns their criticism toward the danger Republicans pose, they are no longer worth listening to. These Dem-haters professed concern for progressive causes, for Palestinian causes, disappears if they can’t be used to defeat Democrats. That’s why what has happened in Ukraine is of no concern — the horrors there don’t matter if they can’t be used as a weapon to attack Biden.
Diane Ravitch has been extremely critical of Netanyahu and Hamas. Anyone who implies that she is deplorable should look in the mirror. We live in Orwellian times where people feel empowered to come to what is essentially Diane’s living room and call her deplorable because the truth no longer matters and they know it.
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Welcome back, NYCPSP. I missed you!
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Thank you, NYCPSP. The commenter to whom you refer was quick to rationalize the atrocities of October 7. For Israelis, it was their 9/11. 1200 people were killed. Proportionally, that’s 30,000+ Americans. How would we react to any country responsible for such carnage.
As I have said many times, I favor a ceasefire. I favor an immediate end to the war. I listened to a zoom from writers at the Israeli publication Haaretz. Netanyahu says the war will take seven more months. They believe his goal is to drag out the war past the American election. Netanyahu hopes Trump will win because he will let Israel continue pursuing Hamas.
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Diane: Trump is always talking everything being RIGGED against him.
The verdict , however, proved that Donald Trump rigged his own election as president. Whether it “worked” or not is not a point of law as I understand it. It’s that he took steps (and was convicted) to do so.
If so . . . and you don’t need to think like Trump to draw the conclusion . . . his earlier election was, itself, illegitimate. CBK
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CBK,
Trump has already claimed that the 2024 election is “rigged” against him.
The thing with Trump is that he protects his ego by predicting that any loss was “rigged.”
The only legitimate election, in his eyes, is his victory.
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Diane: I agree with all you say in response to my note about Trump’s constant complaint about everything being RIGGED against him. My point is that, and I don’t hear from the Biden people that,
Trump has been convicted of . . . RIGGING HIS OWN ELECTION AS PRESIDENT.
The operative word is RIGGED. And this is not just an assertion by a disgruntled democrat. It’s a lawful conviction.
I’m watching some of the street interviews on the news about reactions to Trump’s convictions, and several STILL don’t realize it’s not about Trump’s sleeping with Stormy Daniels and merely lying about it. They don’t understand that it was about the rigging of his election and so it still looks to them like more false political prosecution of their favorite guy.
Talking about Trump RIGGING HIS OWN ELECTION is a way to get the point across to the hard-working people who don’t know what’s going on politically and who assume it’s just not important.
I will NOT say that the majority of MAGA are “stupid.” I WILL say that, in this case, they are acting like, somehow, MAGA people, or just those otherwise busy voters, need their political bells rung, over and over again.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander; and if Trump rigged his own election, AND HE DID, then it reeks of the illegitimacy he is FALSELY accusing of others–all over the place and in all directions. CBK
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“I will NOT say that the majority of MAGA are ‘stupid.’”
I will.
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Bob: Ha! It is what it is, regardless, however; and what IS, it needs a’changin. CBK
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Amen
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Bob and Diane:
ADDENDUM to my earlier notes:
My optimistic naivete died awhile back.
But the elephant in the room is if MAGA people and just busy/politically deaf voters can then realize the implications of a verdict that “kills it” about Trump RIGGING HIS OWN ELECTION.
The Biden administration, however, must leave no stone unturned about clearing up the difference for all voters between Trump’s matrimonial lying about an affair, and covering it up to rig his election. CBK
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I heard a story on NPR saying that most voters don’t know anything about Biden’s accomplishments.
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Diane: Yes, Trump is like passing a bloody accident on the highway–one cannot keep their eyes from focusing on it . . . Hardly a sign of qualified significance, on the contrary.
Also, WHO started calling it the “hush money trial?” It was an election fraud trial. The fact that it’s named “hush money” makes it easy to keep thinking that it’s about breaking one’s marriage vows. Sheesh. CBK
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Amazing how VP helped DT get 3 million less votes than HC…
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Shortly after the election when I saw Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer, leaving Trump Tower, it gave me a feeling of dread. I thought to myself even then, “Is this guy a Russian pawn?” Hartmann knows how to connect the dots.
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THOSE BRAVE JURORS!!!
Think of it — you’re put on a jury that you’d rather not be on and have to decide if Trump is guilty of fraud or not, knowing that if you do, you and your family will face immediate and long-term death threats and that your life will never be the same…never.
The only thing you have to do is say that none of the documentation convinced you of Trump’s guilt. That’s it. That’s all.
And yet, in spite of the grave personal risk and the life of fear you will face, you follow what the documents show, and you find Trump guilty.
Who among us has that kind of courage? America should be thankful that there are some of us who are moral enough to do what America’s laws and America’s traditions tell us to do when faced with such a situation.
The Trump trial jurors are true American heroes.
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:01 AM Diane Ravitch’s blog < comment-reply@wordpress.com> wrote:
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In case you want to know how some celebrities reacted to the verdict in the Trump trial, here’s a good summary.
The best is Hillary Clinton, who innocently asked an audience, “Did anything special happen today?”
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Our MA Senator Ed Markey, a Red Sox fan, had a rather understated response to the verdict:
https://x.com/EdMarkey/status/1796330652998250711
It’s Big Papi, for those not members of Red Sox Nation.
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Quikwrit,
I agree. It took extraordinary courage to sit on that jury. Their names were shielded from public view but the prosecutors and defense attorneys know who they are, where they live, where they work. I hope they are safe.
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Quikwrit: Look for them to be already working on nullifying the jury’s verdict. Under Every Rock. CBK
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I have long wondered what game James Comey was playing when he departed from the longtime FBI policy of silence during a presidential campaign.
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The required silence before an election was not just an FBI policy. It applies across the federal government.
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the interesting thing about the last several elections is the degree to which the winners have been ignoring the losers. We have a serious Democrat challenging our senior senator this year. Marsh’s Blackburn, a Trump-boot-licking buffoon, leads Gloria Johnson by 11 percentage points. What this means is that 40 people of every 100 support Johnson. That is miserable in and of itself, but what it means is that at least 40 percent of the voting public are completely ignored. While we used to see political leadership working too keep some of their opponents happy, we see hostile attitudes towards the other side today.
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I’ve met Gloria Johnson.
She’s a wonderful, brilliant woman.
A special educator.
Now a state senator.
Courageous too.
Walked out with the two Justins to protest failure to act on gun control.
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I don’t believe polls. Voter in Tennessee are getting fed up with the GOP ignoring their opinions on gun control, on women’s rights to self determination, on shutting down the voices of the representatives elected to bring their perspective to the State House. Remember that after the GOP stripped Justin Jones and Justin Pearson of their positions, the people immediately returned them to office.
What’s happened in Tennessee is how it looks when the minority wants to rule, nor govern, over the majority.
Gloria Johnson may not win this election to the US Senate, but she’s no loser. Craven Marsha Blackburn has most recently signed on to a letter require Alvin Bragg to appear before a House committee to defend his prosecution of Trump. Rep. Dan Golden noted Jim Jordan’s committee has no right to question the criminal prosecution of a private citizen.
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Christine . . . they just won’t quit. They’ll do anything to keep their biases and greed from even being challenged. They’ve taken projection and transactional consciousness to new heights.
Here’s what they are telling the newer generations: If you cannot win, flood the field, pay-off the referee, and steal the ball.
And the Supreme Court has thrown its long-aspired-to dignity under the bus. They have shown themselves, even Roberts, as a bunch of arrogant, money-and-power grubbing, SOB’s. Need anyone say that their oaths are garbage, which matches their character. CBK
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And your moment of Zen:
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“Whatever meager influence Russian may have had …”
I suppose this is an improvement over “The fact remains that there is no evidence for Russian involvement in the U.S. election at all.”
This, written at a time when there was — IN FACT – LOTS of evidence of Russian involvement in the 2016 election, from virtually every intelligence agency in the United States government:
US Intelligence news release on October 7, 2016:
“The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.”
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/215-press-releases-2016/1423-joint-dhs-odni-election-security-statement
Reuters: “The Federal Bureau of Investigation, Central Intelligence Agency and Office of Director of National Intelligence agree that Russia was behind hacks into Democratic Party organizations and operatives ahead of the Nov. 8 presidential election. There is also agreement, according to U.S. officials, that Russia sought to intervene in the election to help Trump, a Republican, defeat Democrat Hillary Clinton.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-cyber-idUSKBN14H1SR
There are some people who apply the Trumpian tactic on Michael Cohen to this information, suggesting that because, at certain times in the past, some of these agencies have had credibility issues.
Except, here, private cybersecurity experts have confirmed the information. As The Daily Beast reported in 2017,
“it was a respected computer security company called Crowdstrike that examined the servers, and publicly revealed Russian’s involvement in the DNC hacks last year. It backed up the claim with specific technical information far more useful than anything in the DHS report. Crowdstrike competitors, including Symantec and FireEye, have examined the forensic data from the DNC hack themeselves, and endorsed Crowdstrike’s conclusion that two particular hacking groups were the culprits: ‘Fancy Bear’ and ‘The Dukes.’
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/06/how-the-u-s-enabled-russian-hack-truthers.html
Here’s how Thomas Rid, formerly at the Department of War Studies at Kings College London, and now the Director of the Institute for Cybersecurity Studies at Johns Hopkins, and who studies and writes about technology and cyber warfare, puts it:
“the evidence is so rich that there are only two reasons not to accept it — one, because you don’t understand the technical details, or because you don’t want to understand it for political reasons… It’s really not controversial that we’re looking at a major Russian campaign.”
Former George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum summarized the whole sordid affair well:
“the outline of the case is no mystery…Democratic and Republican Party servers were hacked by foreign agents, yet the Moscow-friendly folks at Wikileaks somehow only obtained the contents of Democratic servers…Meanwhile, Donald Trump ran a campaign that seemed almost designed to please Russian President Vladimir Putin…The campaign then rewrote the Republican platform in ways sure to please Putin. Trump selected as his principal foreign-policy adviser a retired general previously paid by Russia’s English-language propaganda network, RT…Trump himself publicly urged the Russians to do more hacking of his opponent’s email…Trump endorsed Putin’s war aims in Syria…He suggested he would not honor NATO commitments against Russia…He condoned the invasion and annexation of Crimea…Do Americans really need secret information from the CIA to discern the pattern here?”
Yet there DO appear to be SOME people who still try to play off the Russian ratf*cking as some kind of climate-change-like “hoax.”
Some of them even think that they’re “smart.”
But, hey, I got some news.
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