
Do you think that the judges on the Alabama Supreme Court ever saw a storage room in an IVF Clinic that was holding tens of thousands of “extrauterine” children in containers?
The New Republic provided context for the Alabama ruling that frozen embryos are children.
For the first time, a frozen embryo has been recognized by the law as a person with rights. This decision by the Alabama Supreme Court last week is a huge victory for anti-abortion groups, who have long sought to pass fetal personhood laws. This time, by declaring not just a fetus but a fertilized egg in a lab the equivalent of an “unborn child,” the courts have done them one better. If this keeps up, anti-abortion groups may succeed at outlawing both abortion and in vitro fertilization, or IVF.
This case was about whether couples whose embryos have been inadvertently destroyed in a lab can sue for wrongful death. The embryos in question are eggs that have been fertilized outside the uterus and cryopreserved by a fertility clinic for later implantation. The couples’ attorneys cast embryos cryopreserved in liquid nitrogen as “embryonic children” and “human lives.” They seem to have found a receptive audience on the Alabama Supreme Court, with the decision referring multiple times to what the majority called “extrauterine children.”
This case was the culmination of explicit anti-abortion campaigning. The judges based their ruling in part on a recent amendment to the state constitution, enshrining the “rights of unborn children” in law. When voters considered this amendment in a 2018 ballot initiative, the political director of the anti-abortion group Alliance for a Pro-Life Alabama told the Associated Press that the amendment would “position Alabama in the future for public policy decisions on abortion if Roe. v. Wade was overturned.” Indeed, the Christian-right legal advocacy organization that brought the case overturning Roe, Alliance Defending Freedom, celebrated the Alabama Supreme Court’s decision in the IVF case, the group’s senior counsel adding they hoped “that this ruling encourages voters, lawmakers, and courts to recognize that life is a human right, no matter the circumstances.”
The article goes on to explain that the next frontier for the anti-abortion movement is embryo adoption.

They wouldn’t care.
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Insanity is a virus that has infected The Republican Party.
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Quite so. They don’t even pretend to follow the Constitution.
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If the, frozen embryos ate considered, “children”, then, what would the, ejaculated sperms be? Unborn babies, discarded by, men??? And, the majority of voters are, still, following, the, Republican, Cult, soon, only those whom they approved, would have the right to, vote…
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Actually a point brought up by Elle Woods in Legally Blonde (2001)
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Good point. Why should women be held accountable in this absurd reasoning, but not men?
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Put men under surveillance so that they aren’t wantonly disposing of those extratesticular ” children”.
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Following this train of thought, the families of those killed in mass shootings could bring legal action against any number of parties, up to an including the state’s legislator.
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And, unfortunately, there’s still, NO cure for, stupity…and, because there is, this shift of the American people toward the conservative, it’s expected, that, women, minorties are, all, going to, suffer. Welcome to the, DARK AGES, of, modern day, American history, and, from what I’d heard (don’t know if it’s true or false), the Republicans are also, WIPING out the part of history of, slavery, and, they’re, rewiting it into, something that’s, completely, unfounded too. I surely do feel, sorry for the children who are now, and will be, going to school from K-12, and, can you, imagine, how these younger generations, who have, NO idea what the truths of history are, will be, leading the, country in the near, future. It’s, completely, despicable!
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Madness! Do these “kids” all get social security numbers? Tax credits for their parents? How far down the Christian dogma rabbit hole are we going here? Maybe you awoke cozy in bed this morning only to kill a universe …
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Based on that ruling, I wonder what the actual population of the United States is.
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Embryos get tax breaks in Georgia.
“Once a fetus has detectable cardiac activity, pregnant women may claim it as a tax deduction: On August 1, the Georgia Department of Revenue issued a statement https://dor.georgia.gov/press-releases/2022-08-01/guidance-related-house-bill-481-living-infants-and-fairness-equality-life instructing that any Georgia taxpayer carrying an “unborn child with a detectable heartbeat” would be eligible for a $3,000 tax exemption per fetus. Expectant mothers can now also file for child support during pregnancy to pay for medical expenses and delivery. The law also instructs state officials to include fetuses in statewide population counts.”
https://www.atlantamagazine.com/news-culture-articles/georgias-fetal-personhood-statute-is-uncharted-territory/
Steve
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Steve, that’s amazing! So unborn fetuses are added to the population.
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So if someone had 10 or more frozen embryos would that be 10 or more tax credits. Will Forbes soon have financial calculations comparing the costs of maintaining embryos versus the tax break?
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Jim Rudolph,
Waiting for red states to offer tax credits for frozen embryos. If their state hasn’t driven out every IVF clinic.
Which raises the question: when do you celebrate a birthday: on the day you emerged from the womb or on conception day? Should there be two celebrations? Personhood Day and Birth Day?
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Conservatives believe in only One Day – Conception Day.
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“Conception Day” does not lend itself well to song:
“Happy Conception Day to you,
Happy Conceptuon Day to you…”
I dunno. Happy Birthday works better.
4 syllables vs. 6.
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So I wonder how these 3 plaintiffs feel now? They got duped and in the process, have harmed the use of IVF for everyone needing that service in order to have children.
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LisaM,
Right. They wanted and needed IVF. Now as a result of their lawsuit, IVF clinics in Alabama are closing.
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An article in The New Republic cites the view that there are/were a number of cases on tap for when Roe was overturned. It’s easy to find claimants who have the requisite legal standing for cases. I’m curious about the claimant’s lawyer and/or the amicus briefs.
All of Alabama’s Supreme Court jurists are Republican. Only one dissented from the ruling.
A Republican/”libertarian” campaign drove women from teaching jobs. The campaign against reproductive rights in Alabama will drive women’s doctors from the state- another win for the GOP agenda. Republicans, always grinding away at women and Blacks.
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LisaM
Before you add personal insults directed at me, an observation, your insults are similar in tone to Bob’s.
Your other writing suggests a gender tone in writing, as well. Research provides characteristics that enable, in general terms, distinction between a woman’s tone of writing and a man’s. When I am insulted by a woman for writing the same things you object to, it’s often accompanied by a plaintiveness, an off center snideness or, etc. Your’s and Bob’s insults are bold, more declarative, sometimes coining new hyperbole of insult.
The comment you made a couple of times about me not being fun at a party, as if, someone would view that as material in a discussion, struck me as very odd for a woman’s writing.
Anonymous expression of difficulty in accepting homosexuality, reflecting a heightened opposition, while it doesn’t relate to writing tone, and can be true of both genders, may be a greater indicator of a traditional male view.
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“Everyone is tired of your anti religious propaganda vomit and incomprehensible clap trap.”
No, not everyone.
The world needs a hell of a lot more “anti-religious propaganda.”
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Hear, hear!
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Tommy Tuberville did say we need more babies after all…
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Tommy Tuberville should offer to adopt a dozen of those fertilized eggs whose donors no longer want them.
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And the darkness of theocracy falls to destroy democracy and the First Amendment…
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Thanks for publishing this, Diane. Once again, terrific journalism.
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