Sarah Posner, a columnist for MSNBC, summarizes what has been learned about the theocratic vision of Mike Johnson, the recently elected Speaker of the House. Johnson was, of course, a prominent and active election denier. In addition, his views are radically fundamentalist. Whenever possible, he cites the Bible—not the Constitution—as the source of his ideology. Those who do not share his religious views may rightly wonder how someone so deeply indoctrinated in his faith can lead without alienating the majority of his fellow citizens. We know already that he is deeply antagonistic to abortion rights and to those who are LGBT+. In time we will learn what other prejudices he holds and how he will deal with them.
Posner wrote:
The sudden elevation of Rep. Mike Johnson, R-La.,to House speaker pushed his record’s vetting to after his election. So it was only once he became second in line to the presidency that most people learned Johnson played a key role in the House’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election, is virulently anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ Americans, and has promoted teaching the Bible as a history book in public schools.
Now Johnson and his allies are hitting back against his critics. Remarkably, their response to the exposure of Johnson’s turbocharged theo-politics is not to argue that media reports exaggerate or misapprehend his record as a lawyer or legislator, or his intentions as speaker. Instead, Johnson’s closest allies are amplifying his extreme views, and recasting them as mainstream “truths” that are beyond challenge.
This week Johnson gave an interview to the Daily Signal, the news site of the Heritage Foundation, an agenda-setting hub for the right, and particularly the religious right. Johnson was able to “open up,” as the Daily Signal’s Mary Margaret Olohan put it, about how his Christian faith “informs his politics.” While he’s hardly been tight-lipped about that topic, this fresh clarification of his central political philosophy makes his rapid, uninterrogated ascension even more worrisome.
“It’s a central premise of the Bible that God invented civil government,” Johnson told Olohan, who added that, “like many Americans of faith, Johnson sees government as a ‘design of God’ and ‘a gift to mankind in a fallen society.’” If those jarring statements do not comport with your own understanding of the Bible, or of the constitutional separation of church and state, you are not alone.
The Washington Stand, the news site of the Family Research Council, whose president Tony Perkins is a longtime friend of the new speaker, similarly assailed Johnson’s critics. In an article entitled “Johnson Critics Mistake Christianity, American Principles for ‘Theocracy,’” the Stand senior writer Joshua Arnold turned to the director of FRC’s own Center for Biblical Worldview, David Closson. (The Center for Biblical Worldview, according to its website, says that “a person exhibits a biblical worldview when their beliefs and actions are aligned with the Bible, acknowledging its truth and applicability to every area of life.”)
Closson defended Johnson’s beliefs as “just basic Christian belief coming right out of the Bible.” That “basic Christian belief,” argued Closson, includes that “God is the one that ordains authority. God is the one that gives delegated authority to human beings to wield it on his behalf.” Closson went on to suggest that Johnson’s critics are biblical illiterates who lack any understanding of Christianity. He described them as “folks who don’t have any reference to what the Bible teaches, trying to scare millions of Americans, when so many of us would just be saying ‘Amen.’”
If anything has come into sharper focus over the past week or so, it’s that Johnson has spent his legal and political career immersed in an insular world where everyone around him believes there are certain “truths,” like regressive gender roles, or creationism, or that separation of church and state is a “myth.” Or, as Johnson stated this week without equivocation, “God invented civil government.”
While these views are commonplace on the Christian right, they are far from commonplace among Christians more broadly. “Most Christians wouldn’t say that this is a ‘central premise’ of the Bible, but Johnson’s focus on authority, as well as the way he distinguishes ‘civil government’ from other forms of government, tracks with the language of Christian reconstructionism,” Julie Ingersoll, a religious studies professor at the University of North Florida and author of “Building God’s Kingdom: Inside the World of Christian Reconstruction,” told me. As Ingersoll’s work has illuminated, reconstructionism, a movement developed in the 1970s, teaches that God ordained separate “spheres” of governmental authority — the family, the church and “civil government.” In the reconstructionist view, “civil government” should not do anything that interferes with (conservative Christian) families or churches or what they consider to be their inviolable right to impose their religious beliefs in the public square.
There is virtually no one in today’s religious right who would claim the label “Christian reconstructionist,” largely because they do not want to be tied to the positions of its founder R.J. Rushdoony, who cited supposed “biblical law” to support slavery and the death penalty for homosexuality. But the broad contours of Rushdoony’s framework, as Ingersoll has documented, has left an indelible mark on the modern religious right. The insistence that a “biblical worldview” should bear on every government decision shapes right-wing Christians’ positions on a range of issues. Their objections to abortion and marriage equality, for example, is based on their claim that civil government lacks the God-ordained authority to create laws that (they say) conflict with the Bible. They also consider public education to be an improper, unbiblical exercise of government authority. Because of that, they have undermined public schools, created their own Christian schools, and advocated for and shaped the Christian homeschooling movement.
These kinds of crude dismissals of Johnson’s critics serve two purposes: they reassure the GOP base that their “biblical worldview” is the only correct way to view both the Bible and the government, and that any critiques of it evince a lack of “understanding of just basic Christian tenets,” as Closson put it. Second, and more crucially, they aim to bully reporters and political opponents into retreating from examining Johnson’s record and drawing attention to the ways it threatens pluralism, democracy and the rights of others. By repeating the lie that Johnson’s beliefs are “basic” Christianity, and accusing anyone who fails to understand that of ignorance, the Christian right, and the Republican Party it controls, want scrutiny of Johnson to evaporate. We can only hope their efforts will backfire, as millions of Americans wake up to what it really means to have a top government official proudly tout his supposedly “biblical worldview.”

You mean, MSLSD
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It is difficult to read Johnson’s references to Biblical motivation without thinking of the debate over Divine Right of Kings in the days before the Puritan revolution. European monarchs, seeing their power rise due to economic exploitation of the products of colonialism, sought to solidify their power by calling on the traditional affirmation of power by the church. It had been a few centuries (11th to be exact) since Henry IV had stood outside the Pope Gregory XVI’s room at Canossa to beg him to lift the excommunication of his subjects due to the dispute they were having over who would appoint which church officials. Henry’s subjects were terrified they would die and go to hell. As the enlightenment approached, voices challenged the idea that faith and politics were linked by God. John Locke, arguably the great hero of the philosophy of the original founding fathers, put the matter to bed when he wrote in Essay on Human Understanding that Faith and Reason were not the same. Locke wrote to justify the deposition of James II in what became known as the Glorious Revolution in 1688 (it was way more bloody than the winners admitted).
Are Johnson’s subjects similarly afraid of living in a world where government does not represent the things they think about God? Is this the source for the alignment between the church and the despot Jefferson warned us against?
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Let me remind everyone that “Theocrat” and “Theocracy” are misnomers since they suggest the power to rule derives from divine sources, which is of course precisely what the factitious faction in question would have us believe. The proper technical term is “Ecclesiocracy”, meaning rule by a church or a sect thereof, but perhaps “Autocrat” and “Autocracy” are more plainspoken and familiar terms.
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But, Jon, “autocrat” does not suggest the religious aspect of the intended regime.
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I would say that’s entirely appropriate since the intended regime has no more to do with religion proper than its use to excuse arbitrary power. But there is always “Ecclesiocracy” if one needs more clarity,
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Jon, the word “ecclesiocracy” is so unfamiliar that very few people would understand it. I have never seen it used before.
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I think that this word is one of Jon’s many supremely artful creations.
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Actually, I didn’t invent the word, though its exact definition does vary.
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Actually, I didn’t invent the word, though its exact definition does vary.
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From a little above where this will end up: “. . . the intended regime has no more to do with religion proper. . .”
What do you mean by “religion proper”? Are there improper religions? Who determines what religion is a “religion proper”?
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“want scrutiny to evaporate”
Would that be what happened when Koch-funded Paul Weyrich proposed
parallel school systems? His training manual is posted at Theocracy Watch.
Would that be what happened when historians left Marquette’s Father Virgil Blum and Catholic Conferences out of the history of school choice implementation?
Would that be what happened during the SCOTUS jurist hearings?
Would that be what is happening with Harvard Prof. Adrian Vermuele?
Would that be what is happening in the omission of reporting about Catholic Church spending, including paid lobbyists, for anti-democracy measures?
Let’s see if we can reflect and figure out how, “scrutiny is made to evaporate?” (sarcasm)
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After weeks of dithering about who was going to be speaker while great events in the world were being ignored, the Repugnicans were taking a LOT of heat, so they said to themselves, “I know. Who is the most reactionary, the most superstitious and primitive and backward among us? Mikey. Let give the libs that guy.”
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……”Dithering Repugnicans” – thanks for expanding my vocabulary, Bob.
I needed that today 🤓
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Mike Johnson simply exemplifies the absurdity and backwardness of the worldviews to be found in that library of texts known as the Bible. If I really thought that everything in the Bible and the basic tenets of Christianity were anything other than ancient superstition, then the worldview of Mike Johnson would be close to my own. What’s truly shocking is that people don’t see this, that they think that they can have modernity AND these ancient superstitions.
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I often try out that worldview. What if I actually believed that this were the case?
And please note that people fool themselves about religion to such an extent that they purposefully avoid learning about the doctrines, dogmas, and central texts of their own religions and how much these contradict common sense. It’s a hear no evil sort of situation. Witness, for example, the fact that the Catholic church officially holds that the wafer ACTUALLY transforms into the body of Christ and that the wine ACTUALLY transforms into His blood, a fact that several Catholics here adamantly denied. In fact, over the centuries, the Church has intensely persecuted people who denied actual transubstantiation. LOL.
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The wafer, or as I like to call it, the magic cookie.
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the magic cracker
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I have never viewed the Bible, or any religious dogma/ doctrine/ central text as a code of law—or having anything to do with law. And have always (I mean seriously, since age 8 or so) seen those who did as missing a few marbles, or to be kinder, on the fringe. Never once, in the many Protestant services or Catholic masses I attended over 40-ish yrs of observance, heard any such nonsense from the pulpit as described here. Nor even heard an acquaintance conflate religion with govt/ politics in this particular manner.
And yet here we are, with one such flaketard occupying the seat two heartbeats from the presidency. And blabbing about it to the press. With rw outlets claiming this sort of view is “mainstream Christian”—as though that were any kind of defense (and as though it were true).
Sometimes I have to pinch myself. How did this happen so quickly? (Over just a dozen yrs or so.)
In recent yrs I have come to empathize a bit with my rigidly conservative & more- than-a-tad racist grandfather, who was nonplused by the ‘60s, & by the end of that decade often paced familial gatherings in high dudgeon. He could be heard to sigh, well, I won’t be around to see the consequences. That will be YOUR problem.
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It’s truly scary. This guy is as extreme as it gets.
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“I have never viewed . . . as a code of law.”
But increasingly, that is what the right in America does. That’s what Dominionism is ALL ABOUT, and Dominionism is THE BIG THING in Christian evangelical circles now. These people want a theocratic state. They are no different from the Puritan magistrates who ruled the Massachusetts Bay Colony. They want the Christian version of the Taliban Morality Police. They want to turn back the clock to the freaking Middle Ages. They want women quiet and in the kitchen and the nursery. They want police in your bedroom.
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So, I have to give Johnson this: at least he is consistent. He’s an utter lunatic, but he’s a consistent one.
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I ran into a guy from Louisiana recently who claims to know Johnson. His advice: Don’t believe everything you see. He did not, in our brief conversation get a chance to elaborate. I do not know whether he meant that Johnson was not as extreme as he seems or that he was more cynical or what.
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After the long string of Jim Bakkers and George Rekerses and Jerry Falwell Jrs, I never believe what these people say. Rather, I suspect that if the person is some fundamentalist wack job, then he or she is, I don’t know, secretly doing the pool boy and smoking crank.
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Listening to MAGA MIKE makes me think of
Tammy Faye Bakker & Jim Bakker.
(with newer & improved mascara)
Things didn’t go so well for them in the end.
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When my mother’s mother died, one of the last pieces of mail she received was a thankyou from Jim Bakker for her contribution to his ministerial scam. This was the creep whom the Department of Justice came down on for selling a fake “Siliver Solution” Covid cure.
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Bob, how very sad for your family to witness the last deathbed intrusion by those criminals – the Bakkers.
These smarmy & sleazy characters wrapping in religion have done so much damage, most of which we never heard about because they preyed on decent, caring & trusting people.
MAGA MIKE parades his central casting religion persona while 2nd in line to the Nuclear Code. Whenever we think the fever breaks, it only becomes more dangerous.
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Thank you. Yes.
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What Mike Johnson and the theocratic mafia he belongs to advocates has already been done by the Catholic Church in Medieval Europe.
The Catholic Church advised the kings on how to rule their countries, and anyone who disputed the Church would be excommunicated, or banned from the Church.
The Catholic Church was the only Christian church from the 4th until the mid 16th Century. More than a thousand years that one Church ruled from the Vatican providing spiritual guidance to the people.
What happened to those that did not follow that guidance?
About 30,000–60,000 people were executed in the whole of the main era of witchcraft persecutions, from the 1427–36 witch-hunts in Savoy (in the western Alps) to the execution of Anna Goldi in the Swiss canton of Glarus in 1782. These figures include estimates for cases where no records exist.
Cathars denied the divinity of Christ and the authority of the pope; the Roman Catholic Church declared them heretics in 1176. Pope Innocent III sent preachers to convert the Cathars, but called a crusade after his legate, Pierre of Castelnau, was killed in January 1208.
The Inquisition was established in 1233 to uproot the remaining Cathars. Operating in the south at Toulouse, Albi, Carcassonne and other towns during the whole of the 13th century, and a great part of the 14th, it succeeded in crushing Catharism as a popular movement, driving its remaining adherents underground.
The brutal massacre was the first major battle in the Albigensian Crusade called by Pope Innocent III against the Cathars, a religious sect. The French city of Béziers, a Cathar stronghold, was burned down and 20,000 residents killed after a papal legate, the Abbot of Cîteaux, declared, “Slaughter them all!”
At least 200,000 to at most 1,000,000 Cathars were killed by the Catholic Church.
The Inquisition is also infamous for the severity of its tortures and its persecution of Jews and Muslims. Its worst manifestation was in Spain, where the Spanish Inquisition was a dominant force for more than 200 years, resulting in some 32,000 executions.
By the 1300s, the Church was beginning to lose some of its moral and religious standing. Many Catholics, including clergy, criticized the corruption and abuses in the Church. They challenged the authority of the pope, questioned Church teachings, and started to develop new forms of Christian faith.
In the 16th century, the Protestant Reformation weakened the authority and power of the Catholic Church in Europe, sparking religious conflicts and debates that would last for centuries to come.
I haven’t even mentioned the other Catholic Crusades.
That struggle for the one religion that will over everyone’s lives is not over.
Now we are dealing with fundamentalists like Mike Johnson and his allies. If they turn the United States into a theocracy, life on earth as we know it up to now will turn into a living hell like Gaza in Israel as I write this.
If all eligible voters are allowed to vote in 2024, the majority of those voters (if they vote) may slow those fundamentalists down or even stop them in their quest for total power over everyone.
VOTE BLUE! That is the only choice for sensible voters with WOKE minds. Any other vote is insanity.
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Thank you, Lloyd. Ironically, the church of the Prince of Peace left RIVERS of blood throughout the centuries. Rivers and rivers of it. This was not an occasional aberration. It was the standard modus operandi for a thousand years. Invade. Commit genocide. Take the land and resources for the greater glory of the imaginary friend in the sky.
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That Cathar village had both Catholics and Cathars in it, and when asked how to sort them out, the leader of the Inquisition forces said, “Kill them all. God will sort them out.”
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An interesting side note. We have almost no records, in their own voices, of medieval peasants talk about their lives. One of the very, very few such records is one kept of the depositions of a trial conducted of Cathar heretics in the village of Montaillou, in France. The document goes by the name of The Inquisition Register of Jacques Fornier. It’s quite interesting. We learn from this, for example, that the village Catholic priest would tell women of the village that they could not get pregnant when he was making love to them if he was wearing his magic necklace with the garlic clove pendant.
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Thanks for the summary, Lloyd. Jon Huzangia, the Dutch medievalist, pointed out in his monumental book on the end of the Middle Ages (The Autumn of the Middle Ages), that the medieval paradigm of thought was foreign to modern times. Death was such a constant that life was of little concern. A person’s guilt or innocence was of less concern than how the person approached their general fate. When a person was accused of a crime, how the person reacted to his or her fate was of great interest. Whether that person was guilty of the crime was almost beside the point. People watched as criminals were publicly tortured to see if they called out to God or demonstrated faith in the face of pain.
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Here’s the thing: as Rhonda Santis, aka, Mr. En Pointe Platform Cowboy Boots a-Go-Go, has found out and as these moron Repugnican politicians from Podunk don’t understand, the rest of the country has moved WAY WAY beyond these people and their primitive superstitions and prejudices.
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Cushwa site- the Catholic Church was the first and largest corporate slaveholder in the Americas. From other sites- Southern Catholics were central to the Confederate cause.
Fast forward to 2023, the Catholic Church spends money for anti democracy measures on ballots and to take rights from women.
Right wing Catholic Rick Santorum was quoted yesterday.
“Pure democracy is no way to run a country.”
A critic summarized, Santorum believes democracy sucks because Republicans lose.
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Right-to-abortion ballot measure in Ohio looking like a landslide.
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I continue to hope that overturning Roe v. Wade, by forcing state Republicans to be directly accountable for their politics on that issue, will in the long run prove to be a good thing.
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Protection of reproductive rights won in Ohio. Andy Beshear re-elected governor of Kentucky. A good night. Hoping for Presley in Mississippi but he’s a very long shot.
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I think you are right Flerp! and Mike Johnson will be the best thing for democrats in the long run. Christians in general do not like the extreme interpretation of the Bible Johnson supports. On the other hand, the long run may be years.
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What damage can the MAGots cause in the meanwhile?
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Chuck
Leonard Leo has more than $1.6 bil to spend on future ballot issues. How will his right wing religious beliefs play out in the public square? One possible answer, exploitation of labor by unfettered capitalists.
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Interesting election results.
Beshear re-elected in Kentucky.
In Ohio, where Republicans tried everything they could think of to obstruct the vote on abortion rights, the voters spoke loudly and clearly, with 57 percent voting to enshrine abortion rights in the state constitution.
(Note: even AFTER this vote, top Republicans in Ohio say they will try to undermine or overthrow it. How remains to be seen.)
In Virginia, voters rebuffed racist Republican governor Glenn Youngkin’s efforts to gain control of the General Assembly. The Democrats took full control of the legislature, killing Republican efforts to ban abortion. As the Associate Press reported, “Virginia Democrats who campaigned on protecting abortion rights swept Tuesday’s legislative elections, retaking full control of the General Assembly after two years of divided power. The outcome is a sharp loss for Gov. Glenn Youngkin and his fellow Republicans, who exerted a great deal of energy, money and political capital on their effort to secure a GOP trifecta.”
UVa political guru Larry Sabato wrote this on what used to be called Twitter:
“CLEARANCE SALE: all ‘Youngkin for President 2024’ merchandise.”
Good one, Larry.
In Albemarle County in Virginia, voters rejected Antonin Scalia’s daughter’s snark and overwhelmingly elected her opponent, Allison Spillman, with 62 percent of the vote. Scalia’s daughter and her conservative compatriot, Joann McDermid, both tried to snooker voters by pretending to be “moderates,” going so far as to complain when the local Republican party endorsed both of them just, but it didn’t work. The endorsements were only up for about a day, and the two would-be snookerers reacted quickly, but sensible voters already KNEW who they were.
The local newspaper had a cute headline about Scalia’s daughter, Meg Bryce, saying that Allison Spillman had “SCHOOLED” her. Had to laugh.
Yesterday was a relatively good day for democracy.
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