Thom Hartmann is one of the most consistently interested and provocative bloggers on the internet. This is one of his most intriguing:
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This past weekend, Hamas launched a brutal, horrific attack against civilians in Israel. While there is a very real history that has led up to this, there is no justification for it. Even in a state of war, civilians must be protected.
This horror raises a couple of important questions.
First, did Hamas somehow get inside information about Israel’s defenses that helped them pull this off?
Second, how might this play out, how might it be resolved, and how can America and the world avoid the mistakes from previous but similar situations?
Pondering these questions, Sunday night just before I went to bed, I tweeted:
“Hamas apparently knew how to get around Israel’s Iron Dome defenses. They probably learned this from Iran. Iran almost certainly got the information from Russia. And who gave it to Russia? Sure looks like it was Donald Trump, at the request of Putin:”
At the end of the tweet I included a link to a 2017 Washington Post article titled “Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador,” although, because Musk has eliminated headlines from news stories, the article just looked like a picture of Trump with the Russian ambassador and foreign minister yucking it up.
When I woke up yesterday morning, I discovered that my little overnight speculative tweet had caused Republicans on Twitter/X to totally lose their minds.
The tweet had been viewed several million times and produced thousands of responses, the vast majority calling me obscenities and claiming that Trump would never share classified information with anybody because he’s such a patriot and anybody who would wonder out loud about him passing out secrets isn’t.
The Washington Post article I included with my tweet was pretty unambiguous. Reporters Greg Miller and Greg Jaffe wrote:
“President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.
“The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.”
While nobody knew then (and nobody but Trump and the Russians know now) exactly what top-secret information we got from Israel that was shared with the Russians in that meeting, it was clearly a shocking revelation that caught our and Israel’s intelligence communities by surprise.
As noted in that Washington Post article:
“‘This is code-word information,’ said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump ‘revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.’”
The Post reporters also note that, before the door was closed, apparently a Trump staffer overheard him tell the Russians:
“I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day.”
Eight days before Trump was inaugurated as president, a Hebrew language Israeli newspaper with inside information from Israeli intelligence agencies was quoted by the Times of Israel:
“US intelligence officials have warned their Israeli counterparts that President-elect Donald Trump’s ties to Russia could pose a security threat, since information passed on to his administration may reach Moscow and from there be leaked to Iran, a Hebrew-language daily reported Thursday.
“During a recent meeting between US and Israeli intelligence staff, the Americans also assessed that Russia has some kind of leverage over Trump, but did not go into details, the Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper claimed, citing unidentified Israeli officials who were present at the session.”
So, whether Trump screwed Israel and the US because Putin told him to, or just to feed his own massively insecure ego, and whether it’s specifically led to this Hamas raid or simply did other damage to Israeli and American security, here we are.
And, as we learned last week when it came out that Trump shared top-secret info about our submarine fleet with an Australian businessman, he has a history of doing exactly this sort of thing.
We also don’t know if that particular intel from 2017 had to do with Iron Dome or Israeli security (the article suggests it might have involved using a laptop to take down a plane) or not.
It’s important to note, thought, that it was only one of literally dozens of secret, private meetings Trump had with Russian officials, Russian-aligned people at the White House and Mar-a-Largo, and at least 19 phone calls with Putin, for many of which there are no existing records.
Now Newsweek has published an article about this concern that Trump played a role in the Hamas attack as well, and I’ve been joined in my speculation by several others. The Newsweek article, headlined “Donald Trump’s Israel Intel Leak Under Scrutiny After Hamas Attack,” lays it out rather starkly:
“Donald Trump’s sharing of alleged classified intelligence to Russian officials in the White House has come under scrutiny amid a large-scale attack by the Hamas Islamist military group against Israel.
“In May 2017, the former president defended his actions after he was found to have discussed sensitive details about an alleged Islamic State (ISIS) plot with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in the Oval Office. Trump said he had an absolute right to do so. The intel was said to have been provided to the U.S. from Israel.
“It was suggested at the time that the former president’s handing over sensitive information from Israel could have damaged the relationship between the two countries. It also could have raised the possibility that the details could be passed from Russia to Iran, the Gulf nation that is a fierce adversary of Israel and has long supported Hamas.”
It goes on to quote me, Allison Gill (Mueller, She Wrote), Mike Jollett, and Meidas Touch.
Even Donald Trump’s niece, Mary Trump, tweeted:
“This fucking maniac likely gave Putin (who gave Iran, who gave Hamas) Israel’s national security secrets… Plus, he divulged highly classified information about our nuclear subs to an Australian cardboard guy. Why is he still allowed to roam free?”
But, again, all this is speculation. What we do know for sure, though, is that on at least one occasion in the first months of his presidency Trump gave information to the Russians that would have landed any other American in prison. As the Post noted:
“For almost anyone in government, discussing such matters with an adversary would be illegal.”
And let there be no doubt that the Russians Trump shared that information with are allies of Hamas, even if that wasn’t the specific time and information that led to this attack.
A year ago last month, as the Times of Israel noted, the politburo chief of Hamas, Ismail Haniyeh, met with Trump’s Oval Office buddy, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. Joining them were the number two man in the Hamas Politburo, Saleh Al-Arouri, and Moussa Abu Marzouk and Maher Salah, the two most senior members of Hamas’s political wing.
That meeting was followed up this March with confirmation that Hamas has been regularly meeting with Russia. As Al-Monitor, a newspaper that covers Middle Eastern politics, noted:
“Hamas officials have made several visits to the Russian capital, most recently in September of last year.”
Whether any of this will end up sticking to Trump is anybody’s guess, but if the thousands of hysterical replies to my tweetare any indication, the GOP is truly freaked out about the possibility. This might turn out to be more politically deadly to him than rape, paying off porn stars, or stealing classified information by the box-load.
Republican politicians have even gone so far as to nakedly lie to the American people about the horrors in Israel, suggesting that the deal President Biden worked out with Iran was used to fund this attack. But it’s not true: of the $6 billion in oil money South Korea was to pay to Iran (but was frozen by international sanctions) not one single penny has yet to be distributed.
That hasn’t stopped the GOP from lying about it incessantly; it got so bad that a Fox “News” host had to intervene and correct a Republican politician, pointing out that no money has changed hands. DeSantis repeated the lie this morning on Morning Joe.
Given how frantically Republicans in the Senate are trying to pin liability for the massacre in Israel on Biden, it sure seems that somebody might be trying to cover something up. Could this have something to do with the secret documents that Donald Trump hand-delivered to Rand Paul, and he then personally transported to Moscow to give to Putin’s intelligence agents?
Jim Jordan and James Comer are fond of saying, “Where there’s smoke there’s fire.” This “smoke” demands an investigation by the Senate Intelligence Committee, at the very least. And, hopefully, the FBI is all over it, particularly given the horror of these attacks.
But to circle back to the second question, media pundits and even the government of Israel have been using 9/11 as an analogy to the events of this past weekend.
Both were clearly major intelligence failures, but George W. Bush survived his because Democrats chose not to politicize it.
After all, a full month earlier (on August 6th, 2001) the CIA was so alarmed that they flew an agent all the way down to Crawford, Texas in a private jet just to hand-deliver a memo to Bush that was titled:
“Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.”
Bush’s response to the possibility of Washington DC being a target was to change his plans and take the longest vacation in the history of the presidency; he went from Crawford, Texas to Florida, a state run by his brother, where Jeb declared a state of emergency on August 24th. George stayed there, refusing to return to DC until after the attacks were over.
Press reports today suggest that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu received similar warnings from multiple countries in the region prior to the recent attacks and, like Bush, chose to ignore them. But Israeli politicians are often not as circumspect as America’s Democrats, so it’s possible that what rolled off Bush’s back will stick to Netanyahu. Keep an eye on this one.
While it’s a certainty that Netanyahu will be brutal and unsparing in his retaliation (“vengeance” was the word he used yesterday) against Hamas and Gaza, the situation was, in fact, both untenable and unsustainable and it didn’t take a prophet to predict there would be a blow-up one day.
There’s a huge difference in meaning, however, between the words “predictable” and “justified.” Nothing can justify the level of terror and brutality Hamas inflicted on Israeli citizens (and others) this weekend.
And Hamas, with their commitment to destroying Israel and killing Jews, cannot be an honest broker for any sort of peace in that region; the organization and its leadership must be destroyed. They are not reformable, like, for example, the terrorist Irish Republican Army was back in the day.
Similarly, Iran’s and Russia’s support for Hamas must be cut off. As Iran shows in its attacks on its own citizens, and Russia shows in the brutality of its daily terror attacks against Ukraine, neither are behaving like civilized members of the modern world.
Yet, here in America MAGA Republicans continue to do everything they can to support Iran’s (and, thus, Hamas’) number-one sponsor in the world: Russia.
— Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) is blocking military promotions so we have no commander for our fleet in the region because he doesn’t want raped women serving in our military to get abortions;
— Rand Paul (R-KY) has blocked the appointment of our ambassador to Israel because Covid, vaccine, conspiracy;
— Josh Hawley (R-MO) is blocking has a hold on Dept. of Energy appointees;
— Chuck Grassley (R-IA) has a hold on a nominee for the Dept. of Veterans Affairs;
— JD Vance (R-OH) has a hold on Dept. of Justice nominees;
— and the Putin caucus in the House is trying to shut down our government and thus cut aid to Ukraine, which will strengthen Russia and reward their help to Iran and Hamas.
Our hearts break for the missing and captive Israelis, Americans, and others who are the victims of this medieval Hamas attack. It’s hard to imagine anything more horrific.
The civilized world must stand united against terrorism, wherever it is practiced.

This is utterly unhinged. Believe it or not, Diane, Trump and Russia are not to blame for everything that happens on this planet. Please seek immediate help for your chronic TDS.
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Who supports a self-proclaimed white supremacist and now a January 6 instigator and election denier to be Speaker of the House?
Envies the dictators who do not have to think about checks and balances, three branches of government, any media, and no accountability.
READ The QUOTES. Superlatives and generalizations meaning EMPTY and INSINCERE.
Yeh, PRETTY MUCH TO BLAME FOR EVERYTHING.
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I have no idea what you’re talking about. Who supports Trump for Speaker of the House? Not me. Do you support the Democrats’ idea of Dubya Bush for Speaker? Talk about unhinged.
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Thom Hartmann is a reliable propagandist for the U.S.-led western empire and the Democratic Party. I’m not a fan.
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I’ve listened to Thom Hartmann for years and he is anything but a propagandist. For a propagandist look at someone like Sean Hannity or other right wing spew mongers. Thom is brilliant, rational and the author of many books. If he makes a mistake, he freely admits it and corrects whatever information was being contested.
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Are you referring to Thom Hartmann’s support of vaccine passports, lock downs, and mandates in 2021? Or his dismissal of the lab leak theory? Or his opposition to third parties? Or his promotion of Russiagate conspiracy theories?
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“…according to current and former U.S. officials….”
“…said a U.S. official familiar with the matter….”
“…US intelligence officials have warned….”
“…the Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper claimed, citing unidentified Israeli officials….”
I could go on. All of these claims are sourced to unidentified U.S. and Israeli government/intelligence sources. Why unnamed? Not because of fear of retaliation. So, why? Why are these people not willing to put their name on it? Why are they not giving their evidence, other than “trust me, bro”? Why should we listen to these people? This is literally what state propaganda is, even if it’s not printed in officially-government controlled media.
Laugh at the Russians and the Chinese all you want for having state-controlled media, but at least they know their media is propaganda. You people are utterly unaware of who controls your minds.
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I don’t know. Maybe it’s time for the Left to get in on the conspiracy theory market.
Conservative media loves unsourced items as well.
Additionally, Trump loves phrases like “people are saying” and “everyone tells me.”
Is it possible that Trump told unauthorized individuals state secrets? Sure, he talks endlessly and loves to promote himself and his self-perceived greatness.
Like any conspiracy theory, I would need more than theory and conjecture.
However, your last paragraph is kind of ridiculous. Fox Channel was state media from 2017-21.
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Fox is just the mirror image of CNN/MSDNC. If you don’t recognize that, guess what? You’re propagandized.
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I don’t know whether Trump compromised Israel’s security. I do know that he insisted on holding a private meeting with the Russian Foreign Minister and excluded Americans from the meeting. I also know that he took cartons of confidential documents to Mar-a-Lago. I know from the charges filed that he bragged about the state secrets he knew. I have never heard any reports that he ever exercised discretion.
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He also excluded people from meetings between him and Putin.
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And why? Because he is a freaking Russian asset and has been for a long, long, long time. Trump is Putin’s dog.. This is so abundantly obvious that it stinks to high heaven. People have to be blindingly stupid not to see something THIS OBVIOUS.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842/
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Another superb article:
https://newrepublic.com/article/150646/young-trump-went-russia
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Sorry, Dienne. I’m not propagandized. I don’t watch any cable news. None. I’m aware that it all has a political tilt. So I don’t watch it. However, I do know that Fox is the only one to lose a lawsuit due to its false statements and outright lies.
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Why do you keep talking about Fox? Who here watches it? Not me.
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Does anyone know the names of the very reliable media sources who so accurately informed us immediately before the Ukraine war that Putin had absolutely no intention of attacking Ukraine and that everyone was lying to us that Putin would do that. I am referring to the very same accurate and absolutely reliable sources who also informed us after Putin did attack Ukraine that Putin attacked Ukraine to fight the Nazis there.
I understand that those are the very reliable sources that we must use if we don’t want to be accused of being mind-controlled.
Apparently, very reliable named sources informed the wisest of us (those of us who are not “unhinged”) that Putin was fighting Nazis in Ukraine and those are the only reliable sources we should trust. It is “unhinged” not to absolutely trust the very reliable sources who said the media was lying to us about Putin having any intention of attacking Ukraine, and when those sources were 100% wrong, then doubled down to provide us with the absolutely accurate and correct information that Putin attacked Ukraine to fight the Nazis there.
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If Trump provided extremely sensitive Intel to Russia, at a minimum it is safe to say that his enormous ego alone is a reason for him to have done so. Remember “my” generals, etc.?
Any government employee who violated their security clearance by disclosing g code word intelligence would like their job and end up in jail.
Trump’s violations of standard norms and his contempt for democracy ought to make the GOP nervous.
As for the GOP holds on nominations, the Senate could end those tomorrow by ending the ridiculous custom of Senatorial holds. These sops to senate egos are damaging our system of government.
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yes, yes, and yes
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While it is difficult at this point to connect the dots to any degree of certainty, what is certain is that Trump can’t keep his big mouth shut and has absolutely no clue of what national security means, and its ramifications to us and the rest of the world when one chooses to spill those secrets. His sick, twisted fascination with violence also leads me to believe that over the last several days, he has never been happier watching bombings, shootings, explosions, and mayhem on TV with his KFC and Diet Coke. See what evil path I wrought? Isn’t it beautiful?
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It has always bothered me that Trump gets such deferential treatment because he was President. The man is not the office! The office will not suffer because this sorry excuse for a human being is convicted of all the crimes against our country ( and perhaps our allies) that he has committed. If we believe in the rule of law, one would think that it should not be so difficult to dispose of Trump, and his sycophants for that matter. I have been incredibly impressed with the lawyers who have been involved in his various legal matters, as well as most of the judges who are handling the cases. Forget Florida. Fortunately the higher courts know what it means to follow the rule of law and can yank her chain.
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Seems highly speculative.
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While it can be argued that connecting the dots may be the result of educated speculation, there is enough evidence to warrant further investigation. As I recall note takers were excluded from any face-to-face meetings with Putin. This is abnormal behavior for a president. If Trump had nothing to hide, why are there no notes from the meeting or the many phone calls? The only other person present at the meeting was a State Dept. translator, Marina Gross, who was born in Russia.
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This is abnormal behavior for a president.
It is normal behavior for a Russian asset wanting to hid that fact.
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Omg unhinged much? Thanks for dienne77 as the only adult in the room that does not need to be sent to a TDS mental institution.
How crazy can you get? Think it’s sick and beyond disturbing your brain can’t figure out the truth
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Hmm. Perhaps their ankles or their spleens might do a better job?
HAAAAAA!
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And if Dienne77 is your touchstone for reasonableness, well . . . .
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And, let’s not forget this:
“Leading counterintelligence officials issued a memo to all of the CIA’s global stations saying that a concerning number of U.S. informants were being captured and executed.
“The CIA’s counterintelligence mission center investigated dozens of incidents in the last few years that involved killings, arrests or compromises of foreign informants. In an unusual move, the message sent via a top secret cable included the specific number of agents killed by other intelligence agencies, according to The New York Times.”
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/575384-cia-admits-to-losing-dozens-of-informants-around-the-world-nyt/
The Liar and Murderer in Chief, IQ 45, who thinks anyone in the US military is a fool, is responsible for at least 500,000 deaths from COVID because of his lies and mishandling of the pandemic, and I think he is responsible for the loss of dozens of foreign assets that were working secretly for the CIA.
Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’
“The president has repeatedly disparaged the intelligence of service members, and asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades, multiple sources tell The Atlantic.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
Now, I think Traitor Trump is responsible for thousands of deaths in Israel.
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The possibility that a source was compromised or the possibility that a source was compromised in 2017, caused the withdrawal of that source, can not be dismissed. That could have made it more difficult to infiltrate radical terrorist groups.
But other than that, 6 years is an awful long time to change security protocols, once you knew Agent Orange was in the Oval office.
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Regarding other egregious crimes committed by the Trump maldaministration, please note that if you kidnap one child, in the United States, that is a federal crime under 18 U.S.C. Section 1201, carrying a sentence of 20 years to life in prison. Well, Trump and the architects of his child separation policy, Jeff Sessions and Stephen “Goebbels” Miller, committed this crime 5,500 times. Of those, 250 of the kids who were kidnapped from their parents were U.S. citizens.
Where is the justice? One kidnapping is a crime worthy of a life sentence. 5,500 of them are nothing?
Why are these evil goons still walking around free when they should, by law and by moral right, be in prison for the rest of their lives?
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In the House, Mike Pence’s brother just voted to place Jim Jordan in the Speaker’s chair. Jordan, who conspired with Trump to kill the VP.
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Amazing. The GOP is MAGA-fied.
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These people are insane.
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There is loads of concrete evidence concerning Trump’s behavior. He met with Russian officials and ther are no notes. Mueller’s report and a bipartisan Senate report confirmed Russian interference. Trump took dozens of boxes of classified documents and refused to return them when asked – for which he has been indicted. There is video evidence of him having some of those boxes moved to try and hide them. Some of those documents are missing. He shared classified information with an Australian businessman and appeared to share with others in a public space (there is video/audio). Trump was found liable for sexual assault- he is a rapist and there are many more accusations. Trump made the phone call to Georgia’s Secretary of State attempting to interfere in that state’s election results (on tape). Trump and 18 others are indicted in Georgia for election interference (people on tape). We all saw Trump give his January 6 speech inciting violence (he even intervened to move the rally to this day by making sure permits were changed). He then refused for hours to call for an end to the violence.
I read no evidence in any of the posts here that Trump ever had the best interests of the American people in mind- just the same old spin of the radical right.
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