Tom Nichols of The Atlantic thinks that it’s great that Trump will not join the Republican debates. Nichols thinks Trump should not participate in any debates.
Donald Trump has decided to skip the Republican presidential debates. That’s just as well: Debating Trump is demeaning to everyone involved, and it serves no purpose.
Contempt for the Electoral Process
Donald Trump confirmed on Sunday that he’s skipping the Republican-primary debates, the first of which is tomorrow night. His decision makes political sense: A candidate who is crushing the entire field has little incentive to walk into a lion’s den and take on eight challengers. Of course, a candidate who cares about politics, policy, and the voters might want to show courage and respect for the electoral process—but this is Donald Trump we’re talking about, so those are not real considerations.
Strange as it may seem, I not only support Trump’s decision, but I think both parties should seize the opportunity to make it permanent for this election. I love debates and watch theattentively, and in a normal political year with a normal election and a normal candidate, I would be thumping the desk and saying that every candidate should respect our grand tradition of debate.
But this isn’t a normal year. It’s not a normal election. And Donald Trump is not, in any way, a normal candidate. To allow Trump onstage in either the primaries or the general election is bad politics, an insult to our electoral process, and corrosive to American democracy. All of the 2024 candidates, including President Joe Biden, have good reasons to embrace Trump’s refusal to debate and to shun any further interactions with him.
First, as we should have learned in 2016 and 2020, Trump has nothing but contempt for the electoral process. (I’ll get to his open attack on the process in 2021 in a moment.) Trump benefits from arenas where his opponents are constrained by rules that he himself ignores, and so he treats debates like performance art. He insults, interrupts, babbles, and pouts. In 2016 he stalked Hillary Clinton around the stage and suggested that he’d toss her in jail. In 2020, he tried to suck the oxygen out of the room—oxygen that Trump (according to his own chief of staff) knew was carrying his COVID infection and thus was a very real threat to Joe Biden’s health. Exasperated with Trump’s stream of blather, Biden spoke for many of us when he finally said: “Will you shut up, man?”
Second, to allow Trump on the stage is to admit that he is a legitimate candidate for public office. He is not.
I agree with—and this is quite the list—two lawyers who are members of the Federalist Society and the joint view of the conservative retired Judge J. Michael Luttig and the liberal law scholar Laurence Tribe when they argue that the Fourteenth Amendment bars Trump from office. I also agree, however, with my friend Charlie Sykes that the issue of constitutional disqualification is irrelevant: No one is going to take the measures needed (including, probably, a trip to the Supreme Court) to remove Trump from the ballot.
But as is the case with so much of our Constitution, the real check against someone like Trump is not black-letter law, but the inherent virtue and good sense of the American public. As James Madison long ago warned, if “there is no virtue among us” then “we are in a wretched situation,” and it is a continuing tragedy that millions of voters have failed to summon the basic decency to reject Trump and his assault on our values.
At the very least, the Republican Party (if it had a nanogram of spine left) would seize this moment to say that a candidate who bails out of the primary debates cannot run as a Republican and will get no assistance from the national party. The GOP under Ronna McDaniel (a woman who stopped using her family name of Romney professionally because of needling from Trump) is not going to take any such steps. But the failure of Republican voters and their cowardly leaders to exile Trump from their party—and from our public life—is no reason to treat Trump as if he is just another candidate.
Third, to allow Trump on a debate stage would, at this point, be an affront to the dignity of the Constitution and our republic. Trump’s antics would create yet another evening of both national and international humiliation and add more scar tissue to our already battered democratic norms. The United States—all of us—deserve better than to encourage such a demoralizing circus yet again.
And speaking of the Constitution and our political system: No candidate should have to share a stage and shake hands with a man who is credibly accused of multiple felonies for his efforts to overthrow the American constitutional order.
I am, even now, somewhat amazed even to write those words, but here we are.
Remember, Trump does not deny many of the things he is accused of doing. He (and at least some of his alleged co-conspirators) instead claim that what they did was not technically illegal. But we do not need a conviction to reach the conclusion that Donald Trump is a threat to our freedoms and the rule of law. We can shun him in public spaces, including the debate stage, for all of the acts to which he’s already admitted.
Think for a moment what it would look like if Trump showed up for any of the debates. You might not think much of Mike Pence, but no national purpose is served by asking Pence to walk onstage and smile and shake the hand of the man who supported a mob that was trying to hang him. And although it might be satisfying to watch Chris Christie strip the bark off Trump, a shouting match between two of the most obnoxious politicians in America would not help the voters, nor would it be a moment worthy of our democracy.
Likewise, it is beneath the dignity of President Biden—or any president of the United States—to stand next to Trump and have to pretend that the other podium is occupied by just another political contender instead of the leader of a party that has degenerated into a violent, seditionist cult. America knows both of these men, and knows what they stand for. The real question is whether a pro-democracy coalition will finally defeat Trump and his authoritarian movement, and we don’t need pointless and destructive debates to settle that issue.

Donald Trump should not be participating in any debates because as an insurrectionist, he is ineligible to run for president.
He should be in jail awaiting trial.
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And, according to the judge and jury in his defamation trial, he is also a rapist.
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Aww C’mon! Don’t you want to watch two of the most disgusting “politicians’ ever go mano e mano on free network public TV? They don’t even have to pull out the blow-up Sumo suits!
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Haaaaa!!!!! That would be quite the scene–these two in blow-up suits. Same for those manliest of men, Hawley and Carlsen.
A tribute to Josh Hawley
He’s the doughtiest, manliest man.
He chugs the Coors, then eats the can!
None can outdo him in kissing Trump’s can,
That derring-do, doughtiest, manliest man!
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Bob, that’s wonderful!
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Thanks, Diane!
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I know it’s wrong, but I would really love to see a Trump/Christie battle of the worst. Two of the biggest blow hards on the stage together would suck the wind out of the entire venue.
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I never liked Christie. I remember him sticking his fat finger in front of a teacher’s face and wagging it. I remember Bridgegate. But I admire his willingness to tell the truth in the GOP campaign.
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We know we are in trouble when, among the lot, Christie is the voice of reason.
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Exactly right, Bob. He should be wearing orange like his face.
He’s just a low-life bully, who’s stooooopid and without morals. He’s disgusting. H
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Besides, he won’t even sign the “Oath” statement but everyone else has to.
And what would he debate. Wait, “Cow, pig, purse…see how smart he is? How did he remember that?” “The 30-point test takes about 10 minutes and asks the patient to perform a simple batch of memory and mental tasks. The tasks include drawing a line between a number and a letter in ascending order. To test visuoconstructional skills. The patient is asked to draw a clock and put numbers on it, and to draw a cube.
The patient is tested on naming and is asked to give the name of animals drawn on a test page.” I mean that would definitely benefit all the people who are trying to feed their kids (the working poor), buy school supplies, keep the lights on, get medical care…
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Just how stupid does a person have to be to mistake a dementia screening for an IQ test?
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@Bob — I guess millions BELIEVE in Trump 2024. Sixty five percent of Iowans say, “Eh, the charges against Trump — not so bad.” What planet are these people living on? Dumbfounding. On another note, I think you all have a great candidate in Debbie Mucarsel-Powell. What say you?
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Totally agreed
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So many in this country live on a steady diet of lies from conservative media.
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How in the world did
the ears of rump become
those of his unfan base,
such that he might
yield to their device?
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Purple quizdom bee-lines authenticity,
succors its ceintured centenarians amenably,
n’est-ce pas? Fatoum in the boom room laughs
as only he can, fallen, furtively felled, yes?
Well. Do tell. Tell well, sugar bell.
Listen, moonbeam. In the dawn, the moon was clamoring over Phosphorus.
But be careful. Your gist is leaking.
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Let’s stop calling these group spectacles “ debates”. They are not real debates. Here are some basic rules of debate decorum for true debates:
The debater should never falsify, create or distort evidence. The debater should never publicly disagree with the decision of the judge or the audience. Winners need to be congratulated by the opposition. Debaters should not insult, offend, or disrespect other debaters and/or judges in any way.
Could we ever expect to witness debates like the Lincoln-Douglas debates? If only….. maybe before I die this country will return to the attitudes of our Founding Fathers & the Age of Enlightenment. Yeah, right!
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They should be called “Mass Debates”
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You care right. When there are 8 or 10 or 16 people onstage, it’s for preening, not debate.
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“That [teachers’ unions putting themselves above kids] is the biggest problem for our country, not UFOs.” –Chris Christie, Republican presidential debate, 8/23/2023
What a strutting, posing fool. There he is, enacting the Republican playbook–create an enemy.
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Among Republican politicians today, it’s all about presenting some enemy for the base to hate. Rile them up.
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“The only way we change education in this country is if we break the backs of the teachers’ unions. They are standing in the door house [sic] of our kids, locking them into failing schools and locking them out of the greatest future they could have.” –Tim Scott, Republican presidential debate, 8/23/2023
Again
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so many shows about psychopaths on tv last night 📺
we watched the least scary one 😱
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So many varieties of psychopath in evidence last night! The quiet, withdrawn, antisocial psychopathic killer. The masochistic psychopathic functionary/toadie evincing the banality of evil. The pathological liar/social manipulator psychopath.
And how about that Vivek Ramaswamy? The psychopath on methamphetamines.
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Meanwhile, there were video clips on the news of Joe Biden visiting a billionaire friend. Biden and the friend and entourage come out of what appears to be a coffeehouse, and Biden raises his cup to salute the camera, but he does so in this weird, slow-mo manner that one sees only from people of EXTREMELY ADVANCED AGE–I mean, folks who are past the 100-year mark.
He has done a great job. He now needs to drop out and make way for a younger candidate.
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I’m reminded of this adage:
Don’t mud wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.
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Excellent. Thanks for posting this, Diane. Couldn’t agree more.
Unfortunately, it wouldn’t help Biden to refuse to debate Trump (should he be the Republican candidate). Trump would play that card for all it’s worth.
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lol!!!! Biden never campaigned only from his basement. Maybe hundreds were bought to go to any of his gatherings. Every Trump rally has thousands of people.
The dems are the circus clown show, our country is in shambles, the world is laughing at Biden and harris. Nobody respects us, Biden is the ultimate embarrassment and you all voted for him. All believed all the fake hoaxes, you are all puppets and sheep bahhhhhhh.
Look at the polling trump has 60% plus, rest is lucky to be on the JV team.
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