Six unindicted co-conspirators were listed in Jack Smith’s federal indictment of Trump. One of them, according to the media, is Trump campaign lawyer Kenneth Cheseboro. In one of his memos to the Trump team, Chesebro cited his former Harvard law professor Laurence Tribe. Tribe was outraged, and he wrote this article to show how Cheseboro had distorted his words.
Tribe wrote in Just Security:
Special Counsel Jack Smith has concludedthat he can prove that several private lawyers acted as co-conspirators in former President Donald Trump’s criminal effort to overturn the legitimate results of the 2020 presidential election. That conclusion, which is backed up by an enormous body of evidence, has significant implications for American democracy as well as for what it says about members of the legal profession. In the wake of this historic indictment, it is important for those of us with more information to come forward.
I am personally familiar with an aspect of the indictment’s documentary evidence that may shed light on the actions of one of the attorneys – Kenneth Chesebro — who is identified as Co-Conspirator 5 by the special counsel.
In a civil suit, Judge David Carter called the 2020 election interference scheme “a coup in search of a legal theory.” What I have to offer here can shed light on the anatomy of that fraud. It shows how the attorneys concocted arguments that gave the scheme an air of legitimacy but one that could not withstand public scrutiny. I know this well because a key memorandum drafted by Chesebro — which might otherwise appear relatively innocuous even in how it is discussed in the indictment — laid the foundation for the scheme grounded, in part, on misrepresenting my work. I know this especially well because of my prior communications with Chesebro.
I. Background
According to the indictment, the Trump attorneys participated in a “corrupt plan to subvert the federal government function by stopping Biden electors’ votes from being counted and certified” (para 54). They allegedly helped devise and implement central parts of the conspiracy. Those schemes include an effort to use false slates of electors to obstruct the congressional certification of the election and an effort to get Vice President Mike Pence to use his ceremonial role to interfere with the certification.
The special counsel alleges that Chesebro “assisted in devising and attempting to implement a plan to submit fraudulent slates of presidential electors to obstruct the certification proceeding” (para 8). It is important to note that the indictment alleges that he and other attorneys’ criminal conduct involved knowingly misrepresenting facts (not just misrepresenting the law). For instance, the indictment states that Rudy Giuliani and Chesebro made factual claims they knew to be false to GOP electors in Pennsylvania to induce those electors to swear to certifications that the two attorneys knew to be fraudulent (paras 61-62).
Please open the link to read the rest of this fascinating article.

hahahahaha oh Diane, this is a nothing burger, You are not getting Trump. Let’s watch 25 minutes of dems denying Trump as president and saying he is illegitimate. It;s amazing we given 100 billion to Ukraine when Schumer and dems said 4 billion for the wall is too much. We have a traitor president and family and you are continuing to go after Trump, itsssssss hilarious and sad.
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/rnc-video-democrats/2023/08/02/id/1129391/
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Hey, Josh, did you see that Ron DeSantis finally admitted that Trump lost and Biden is President? So did Bill Barr and Mike Pence.
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None of the politicians who sold that shite to people like Josh ever believed it. Trump didn’t. None of the professional political Trumpanzees did. Only the true believers like poor Josh.
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I listened to that segment and it sure seemed like DeSantis was using a different definition for win and lose that was actually independent of the number of votes received.
In other words, he was saying Biden “won” because he is now president not that he is president because he won.
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The journalist who was asking him the question also recognized this distinction in his answer so it wasn’t just my impression alone .
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75 felony indictments and counting
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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10231353465607055&set=a.1200477179262
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Would you like some Cheese, bro?
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Sounds like this may be Cheesebro on toast
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haaaa
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Chesebro twisted the words to make them say what *rump wanted to hear. I do hope all those ‘silly’ lawyers get disbarred for the remaining years of their life.
By the way, there is no evidence that Biden and family are criminals but the DOJ has plenty of evidence against *rump and his team of many.
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Time to indict a few unindicted co-conspirators.
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The site that is hosting this superb article by Professor Tribe is fascinating. Here, for example, is a superb account of the war crimes of Henry Kissinger:
https://www.justsecurity.org/87043/is-henry-kissinger-a-war-criminal/
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Give him life in prison without parole!
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And without Hostess Twinkies
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Donuts are the great aphrodisiac” — Henry Kissinger
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Power is the the great aphrokissmyass.” — Henry Kissinger
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And most American leaders and media are still kissing Henry’s ass all these decades later, despite the obvious disastrous and murderous nature of his policies.
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Jabba the Putz
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I think you could call this a diatribe.
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Or maybe s tribunal,
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Or s tribulation
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Trials and tribulations
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Like Diane Ravitch, Laurence Tribe is a national treasure.
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Yes!
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My only question is this: why do so many people who graduate from Harvard law school have do little respect for the law and behave like Cheese, bro? (And Ron DeSantis, and Ted Cruz, and John Roberts)
I don’t fault Tribe necessarily but there is something clearly amiss there.
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Like Swiss cheese, at that
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It’s more than a little like a top ranked physics department graduating people who have no respect for the laws of physics as bd incessantly proposes crank theories that violate those laws.
There comes a time when the profs in such a department really have to ask themselves “what is going on here?” Is there something that we could do differently (either in selecting candidates or in educating them) that might change the outcome?
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Obama is another Harvard law grad (and Tribe student) who has zero respect for the law, targeting American citizens with drones (effectively executing them without trying or even charging them) and essentially declaring a person (Bradley/Chelsey Manning, ) guilty in a public forum before they had even been tried.
These are not debatable. They are facts. Did Tribe ever have anything to say about either of those two facts?
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The Next Cuckoo Coup
So, there are two kinds of Trump voters.
First, there are the Trumpanzees, true disciples of the Trump cult, some of whom show up on this blog from time to time to espouse some utterly lunatic notions from the Qanon-o-sphere: Trump won the 2020 election, Joe Biden sits atop a vast criminal empire, Hilary Clinton leads an international pedophile ring, Ukraine is run by Nazis, George Soros funds caravans of rapists and murderers who are overwhelming our borders, and so on. That’s about 60 percent of the Trump base. I say “notions” above, btw, because when a Trumpanzee talks or writes in imitation of the toddler English of the cult’s Glorious Leader, it all comes out in a geyser of crazy conspiracy theories, one after another in rapid succession, sounding very much like some bizarre political catechism from a low-budget Exorcist remake. These Trumpanzee ‘merkins think that Trump stands between them and black and brown people who hate EVERYTHING GOOD–America, Jesus, apple pie, guns. They think that Trump actually is a self-made billionaire and a Christian nationalist and that he gives a damn about them. He doesn’t.
Second, there are the Repugnican doctrinaire pragmatists who have been holding their noses since the escalator ride down to new lows in American politics. These are evangelicals, Libertarians, and other supporters of Reich-wing policies like outlawing abortion, eliminating social services for the poor, regressive taxation, building a wall to keep out immigrants, giving companies the freedom to pollute at will, enabling the assertion of a right to religious bigotry in public fora, banning books from libraries, withdrawal from international treaties and obligations, and so on, who know Trump for what he is–an amoral career criminal and conman, a seditious, dishonest, irreligious, murderous, traitorous, profoundly ignorant and stupid RICO boss who can nonetheless be counted on to sign ANY piece of Reich-wing legislation put in front of him. So, while Trump might not actually be against abortion (he vociferously supported it in the past when he was trying and failing at being a playboy), he will do whatever the Reich-wing wants because he doesn’t care about anything except adulation from his base and, of course, extracting money from Trumpanzees. So, that’s the Hold-Your-Nose-ers, the Trumpeteers, the other 40 percent of the Trumplings.
So, because of the size of the Trumpanzee cult, it appears at present (that is, ever since Ron DeSantis basically threw away his opportunity of a lifetime because he evidently has the political instincts and charm of a rabid coyotes or parasitic wasp larvae) that no one has any chance of winning the 2024 Repugnican Presidential nomination EXCEPT Trump, so most of the Nose-holder Trumplings now have two choices: they can hope against hope that The Loser will pull off another 2016 victory-by-a-hair-on-the-end-of-an-Adderall-covered-orange-schnoz OR that he will be convicted and sent to prison before the election so that someone else can run in his stead.
Meanwhile, the Orange One has been using increasingly martial rhetoric (against judges and prosecutors, no less!). Having lost the defamation case brought against him by E. Jean Carroll and having been determined in that case by a jury and judge to have committed rape, he now has been indicted on 78 felony charges, with many more in the pipeline. His choices are limited. Trump can liquidate his assets and board the Trump plane to Russia to stay under the wing of his dying handler, the kleptocratic state Mafia boss, defenestrater of dissidents, and now indicted international war criminal Tsar Vladimir Putin, or he can whip up his base to carry out an actual Civil War. We know, now, that Trump was furious that he was not allowed by his own Secret Service to go with the mob to the Capitol and fulfill his fantasy of being an actual martial leader. And we’ve known for a long, long time that he is a delusional madman. Perhaps, in extremis, he is actually starting to believe that there can be a coup, an insurrection, that can bring him to power. For even he, crazy as he is, knows that HE CANNOT WIN IN 2024. He has lost and lost and lost in the past, and he has even less support now. He wishes he could win. Then he could pardon himself and crawl back under the protection of presidential immunity. But he can’t.
So, how does this play out?
I suspect that the more moderate right-wingers, KNOWING that he will lose in 2024, are working behind the scenes right now to make sure that he is convicted of high crimes and misdemeanors before the election and thus made ineligible for the presidency. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if some wealthy Repugnican donors are, even as you read this, calling up disaffected members of the former Trump team (which would be almost all of them, lol) and saying, “Let’s get this guy out of the way so we can win; cooperate with the investigations.”
Meanwhile, ex-cadet Bone Spurs is at Mar-a-lago or Bedminster fantasizing about leading a Civil War against Jack and Tanya and Alvin and Fani and the Marxists and about millions of members of the Trumpanzee Citizens’ Militia turning out to make him Glorious Leader for Life–January 6th having been a dress rehearsal, his Beer Hall Putsch, prior to the main event.
Here’s the thing: It ain’t gonna happen. The Trumpanzees have seen what happens when they actually put themselves on the line for him: he doesn’t join them, and he doesn’t save them. They go down. He goes to lunch and golf.
“I’ll call it a day,” the con man did say,
“I’m still president anyway.”
Then he farted and stood
and called it all good,
and went to his golf course to play.
What if he gave a coup and it didn’t happen?
I guess we would then have people debating whether he should be charged and prosected and sent to prison for THAT.
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I suspect that the more moderate right-wingers, KNOWING that he will lose in 2024, are working behind the scenes right now to make sure that he is convicted of high crimes and misdemeanors before the election and thus made ineligible for the presidency”
Bill Barr is leading that charge. The fellow is nothing if not shameless.
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Except Barr is really a fake moderate.
A true moderate would never have worked for Trump to begin with and certainly not acted as Trumps apologist for as long as Barr.
Barr is yet another pathetic asskisser who is now being celebrated in the media as some sort of hero who stood up to tyranny.
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Shameless Barr none.
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How quickly the media and many Democrats have forgotten or simply forgiven Barr’s Trumpasskissing in the case of the Muller report
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Barr is trying to rehabilitate his reputation.
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yup
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Revised
https://wordpress.com/post/bobshepherdonline.wordpress.com/5448
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Oops. Here’s the right link:
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If you want more on lawyers, read Gulliver’s Travels, chapter 3.
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