Gary Rubinstein is writing a series on whether the math taught in school is useful. Americans typically study math every year, yet don’t remember most of what they learned. This is part 2, in which he identifies the “useful” part of the math curriculum.
He begins:
What if your house was burning down and you could only save one box of your things? What would you save? Fortunately most people will never have to make this decision but it is still an interesting exercise where you think about what it is in your life that really matters.
As a math educator I sometimes think what if I could only choose a small collection of the most ‘useful’ math topics to save from the entire K-12 curriculum. As I argued in the previous post, I think that at least half of the school math topics are not really ‘useful’ in the sense that you will ever actually ‘use’ them in your life. With this narrow definition of ‘useful’ and ‘useless’ an example of something that is pretty useless is to find what’s called the ‘prime factorization’ of a number like 555 and write it as 3*5*37. There might be some uses of prime factorization in some other math topics but certainly on its own it isn’t a very useful skill.
But some math topics are very ‘useful’ and I think that all students should learn them at some point throughout their schooling. In this post I’m going to make an annotated list of what those topics are. These are like the box I’m saving of ‘useful’ math. The list isn’t going to be very long which leads to the question about whether the math curriculum could be compressed so that it doesn’t take 13 years or if some of the less ‘useful’ topics should still be taught for other reasons.
In the old days, like the 1700s, a big thing that math was used for was converting different units of measurement for commerce. So converting ounces to pounds and things like that were very important and you practiced with difference currencies and things like that. Well here in the 21st century we aren’t doing those sorts of conversions very much but in this new world there are different kinds of calculations we have to do. In the news all the time we see different statistics and sometimes two different news sources interpret data in different ways so an informed citizen should have some basic ‘numeracy.’
#1: Basic adding, subtracting, multiplying, and some division. With all the options we have as consumers, it is important for us to be able to look at two competing options and decide which one is better for you. There are different ways to teach these things and I’ll address those later, but these things should be mastered by everyone.
#2: Percentages. Though percentages are really just an application of division and multiplication, I think everyone should have an understanding that 50% of something is the same as half of it while 10% of something is one tenth of it. So 50% of 400 is 200 and 10% of 400 is 40. And once you know about 10%, you can easily calculate or estimate other percentages, like 30% of 400 will be 3 times 10% of 400 which is 3*40=120. Also see how that is a little more than 25% of 400 which is one fourth of 400 or 100. Calculating tips and understanding when businesses offer 30% off or a loan that has a 2.75% interest rate and things like that are really important so consumers can make informed decisions.
#3: Basic Geometry. Knowing how to find the area of a rectangular or triangular floor is something that everyone should know. Put that skill together with multiplying and dividing and you can figure out how much carpet to order and how much it will cost.
#4: Basic statistics and probability. When you make an investment, including whether or not to play the lottery, you are taking a risk. So having some ability to measure this risk will help citizens make the right choices and not get taken advantage of.
#5: Basic ‘data science’. Nowadays we hear so many numbers on the news, but people can’t interpret these numbers without knowing how to think about them. Like we hear that crime has ‘doubled’ from last year and it sounds pretty bad. But someone who has studied this kind of data science knows what the other relevant information is. Like in this case, if crime went up from 1 incident to 2 incidents, that’s a lot different than if crime went up from 10,000 incidents to 20,000 incidents even though they are both ‘double.’ In the education research that I have done, I’ve come across papers that claim that an educational strategy resulted in ‘110 additional days of learning’ which can really mislead a reader who is not aware of the assumptions that go into these sorts of calculations.
#6: Interpreting graphs. So often, especially nowadays, data is presented in a visual form. There are scatter plots and pie charts and so many ways to use pictures to represent information. An educated citizen should be able to look at these and understand them.
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I think teachers should be able to calculate their VAM score.
Oh. Wait…
In order to do that, the psychometricksians who calculate the score would actually have to reveal how they do it.
Never mind.
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Or they could roll the dice!
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As Gary Rubenstrin showed in a series of blog posts, the VAM data themselves look pretty tan dumb.
So rolling dice may actually be what the psychometricksians are doing. In fact, that may be why they want to keep their methods a secret. After all, if you are making millions of dollars rolling dice, you certainly would not want to tell anyone
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Pretty randumb.
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“In the news all the time we see different statistics and sometimes two different news sources
interpretmisrepresent/distort/fabricate data in different ways..”Fixed
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People need to know how to write about numbers.
Almost every day, I see a phrase such as this, “three times more than.” I think they may mean “three times as much as,” but I’m not certain. When I see “three times less than,” I know the writer has no clue.
This is not only in advertising, where deceptive writing is rampant, e.g., “up to forty percent off and more.” (So, any number less than 40 , forty, or any number more than 40?) It’s also in NYT, WaPo, WSJ and other respectable newspapers. I must assume avoiding math is part of the journalism curriculum.
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I agree. Linguistic innumeracy is ubiquitous.
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Had my sister, a retired math/computer science public high school teacher (she majored in both math and physics in college back in the early 70s) read the series. Her thoughts:
“Just finished reading. I never thought every student needs to complete 3 years of math to graduate. It’s tough. Maybe first year have the standard Algebra class for those who will take more math and an Algebra class that uses the concepts of Algebra 1 in more practical applications. I think we also need classes that are more specific to what a student need, i.e. Business Math, math in Science, etc. There would be a collaboration between the different departments and the math dept. Maybe have some semester classes. We used to have a business Math class given through the business dept. It counted as a practical art credit because it wasn’t taught by a math teacher.”
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Having a basic understanding of “uncertainty” and significant digits in reported statistical results is something that is critical but completely lacking in most members of the public (and even among many scientists)
This became particularly obvious when people like economist Emily Oster (who was widely quoted in the media) were claiming Covid test positivities that implied an overall accuracy of the results that was ten times (or sometimes even more ) the accuracy of the most accurate Covid test administered under optimal conditions (because of possibility of false negatives)
Related to the above is the concept of “significant digits”. If a particular Covid test that was used to come up with a community or school “positivity rate” is only accurate to within a few percent under optimal conditions (some, like home antigen tests can be much worse: only 50% accurate when a person does not have symptoms) it is completely meaningless to report the test positivity to the tenths decimal place (eg. 0.2)
But this was done ALL the time in the media (which never reported the associated uncertainty and rarely even mentioned that tests could show a false negative result) and even Johns Hopkins was doing it on their website comparing positivities for the various states. It scares me that even the people who are supposed to be experts on the science either lack a basic understanding of scientific uncertainty or are just incredibly sloppy.
Note: While some might say this is a scientific issue and not a math issue, I’d argue it is both, particularly given the significant digits issue, which should certainly be taught in math class as well as science class.
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“While some might say this is a scientific issue and not a math issue,”
Considering that math is the language of science. . . .
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I see a mistake here. We seem to be saying that we only need to teach math a kid will use. There are two things wrong with this.
First, we do not know what we will become mathematically when we are young. We may be capable of identifying a Gauss or a Newton, but the average kid is a much better mathematician with a little age. This may make up miss out on some good talent.
Second, Algebra and Geometry are delightful logic systems, and an introduction to this type of logic may be a freedom to many students. Few students will jump at the chance to think differently, so a requirement might be a good thing.
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Even if one cannot recall the math they learned in high school, math is one of the best ways to build an educated brain. The various levels and layers of logic and systems that are required to be successful in math easily translate to the other disciplines, making one’s learning and understanding of those other disciplines deeper and better. I really don’t care that a lawyer can’t recall how to perform a 15-step proof from Geometry, but I wouldn’t want to use a lawyer who did not learn and practice the logic that is involved in it.
It’s like exercising your body. You don’t do it only so that you can do 50 sit-ups or push-ups or whatever, you do it to keep you body running well.
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You make a very good point that gets completely lost in trying to come up with lists of which elements of math are important and which are not.
The latter is really dependent on the person, at any rate and it is virtually impossible to say what math a person will need or use later on.
For example, I never imagined I would make use of the fact that the diagonals of a rectangle are of equal length until I started building structures (eg, decks and sheds)
Adjusting a base parallelogram frame until the diagonals are equal is hands down the best (easiest, surest , cheapest) way to “square up” any structure that involves such a foundation.
There are actually a lot of things in math like that and though you might not immediately recall them, they come back pretty quickly when you see them again
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It’s actually kind of humorous.
I spent most of my career working as a computer programmer but have used far more of the math that I learned doing carpentry than doing programming.
Carpentry is generally a very cerebral endeavor that lets you know (and keeps reminding you forever!) when you make a math mistake.
The other thing that I find humorous is that carpentry is much more resistant to replacement by computers than so called “knowledge worker” jobs like computer programmers.
Part of the reason for this is that it is hard to create a general purpose robot that can do the varied tasks that carpenters do. At least some of what carpenters do is stuff that is out of the ordinary and the unusual stuff outside the training datasets is precisely what computers and robots have the most difficulty with.
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SDP: good comments. I am doing carpentry in my retirement from teaching (it’s good exercise, and we need the money). It is fascinating how it changes the way you think.
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I love this point, SDP: “it is virtually impossible to say what math a person will need or use later on.”
Though I came back to teaching in my 40’s, I wandered away from 1st assnt after a couple of yrs of doing 5 levels of French instruction, when just a few yrs older than my students. (My sentiment at the time was, “Am I going to spend my entire life in classrooms?”) TMI how I got there, but found tech-level work in another field that interested me, related to my own family’s biz & my grandfather’s profession: engrg/ construction. I didn’t care what it entailed, I just wanted to be around projects being designed and built.
Guess what? Whole lotta math, daily. Not advanced math—I wasn’t an engineer, just busy reviewing specs/ soliciting & comparing proposals from commercial POV [got courses in commercial law courtesy of corp], touring vendors around jobsites & the like. Lots of routine arithmetic, basic algebra, amortization et al.
What I learned about myself after just 4 yrs in the job: I was quick at mental arithmetic, and had a gift for estimating [cost of projects, # manhours reqd etc].
Where did that come from? I considered myself a poor math student. I excelled in hischool geometry, but reqd daily tutoring from my alg teacher to pass the NYS regents in Alg II. [Even tried auditing a colleague’s algebra class while a French teacher, figuring my math brain might have matured– no joy.]
No doubt 4 yrs of regular math practice on the job—applied to projects I cared about– is a lot of it. But I got the basics from K12 math instruction, whatever its failings. Every day for 12 yrs, tho my talents lay elsewhere, I got regular practice in math. I am surprised that the Rubinstein series & comments suggest we should pare back hischool grad math reqts. Working math is like working a mental muscle. Just like reading daily. And you’re going to need that muscle going forward in life, regardless of your job.
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My layman’s reading in cognitive science makes me dubious about the idea that proficiency in math logic translates into proficiency in the logic used in other disciplines. All recent cognitive science research has concluded that the ability to think critically about a given topic depends heavily on the domain-specific knowledge that the thinker has. For example, an electrical engineer can do deep critical thinking about the best way to design a factory’s electrical system because he has the relevant technical knowledge down cold. A tax attorney doing complex work for a corporate client can only do well if he has in-depth knowledge of the relevant statutes and case law. An OB/GYN knows what to do with an emergency C-section because of her detailed medical knowledge. And so on. None of these people need Geometry, Calculus, etc. to do their jobs well. It comes down to needing domain-specific knowledge and applying the standards and best practices of their specialized fields.
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Jack Safely– this is an interesting post that gets me thinking about that logic piece– where it originates [wired in?], how it plays out in different disciplines.
Yes, quantity of domain-specific knowledge is foundational, but it is one’s sense of logic that organizes it, leads one to speculate on whether arranging it differently would result in different speculations/ conclusions, etc.
At its beginning point, math is like an alphabet, a method of notation for counting physical objects, and combining them in different ways. My sense of logic worked well for me in geometry, perhaps because it never strays far from reference to physical objects. Algebra never came easily once it got past very logical basics like ratios, the commutative property, etc. Perhaps this has to do with pedagogy. I needed to understand why a method worked— the logic. But as I recall the usual instruction was, well, the Nike motto, and move on to the next step [before you’ve understood why this one works]. 🤬
“Math logic” does not inform “history logic” because the raw materials are different. What is inevitable in math has to do with principles of counting, measuring. In history we are dealing with identifying patterns of human behavior, deriving probable principles based on past evidence.
The question is: does math even “teach” logic? I’m thinking it demonstrates and confirms the inner sense of logic we develop from birth, based on observation of the world around us. It provides us with tools for understanding “here’s why [physical] things work that way.” The connection to other, not-so-physical disciplines might be: math encourages the sense that one may be able to find the same sort of predictability, or at least informed guesswork, in other spheres which don’t appear logical on their face.
One caveat re: “leads one to speculate on whether arranging it differently would result in different speculations/ conclusions.” This only happens with the right kind of math pedagogy. See my comment on Chinese math pedagogy in Part I of Rubinstein series, @ Aug 7 11:14 am. Does not happen if we simply teach kids to memorize algortithms as a priori & they spend all their class & hw time on applying them to different sets of data.
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My own experience suggests you are correct. First there was the experience I had when I was 15 and studied geometry. Beginning with premises and seeing how simple logic carried me to a conclusion was extremely important to my patterns of thinking. That same year, a great history teacher opened the door to the organic nature of history, a logical evaluation of the past that suggested the inevitability of certain events was baked into other trends in society.
After a good many years, I took a class in computer programming. The experience of comparing my algorithm to other students’ methods for achieving some result was likewise influential on my thinking.
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I always found math a little intimidating. When I got to geometry, I took to it like a fish to water. I still remember quite a bit. I think it’s because I enjoyed it almost like a puzzle to be solved.
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By you, I meant mathman.
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Solving advanced problems in specialized fields does require specialized knowledge, but the basic logic learned through geometry and algebra proofs can lay the foundation for an organized process of thinking AND an awareness of the value of that process in all aspects of life.
The lessons of math in carpentry can be available to students fortunate enough to attend a school that still offers wood shop with hand tools. Small and manageable projects like small wood boxes offer the same lessons as the carpenter’s full size door or wall.
For those who missed my post yesterday, check out the book “Woodworking with Your Kids” for an account of Richard Starr’s many years teaching K-8 woodworking in a small New England school; MANY photographs, and available on Ebay for around $5.
Lastly, the grading approach in math and sciences could be changed for those students NOT on a career path. PASS/FAIL could be based on the simple teacher assessment: “Did this student have a positive attitude and get something out of this class?”
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My experience as a carpenter directly benefitted my teaching geometry. When I retired and returned to carpentry, the geometry was immediately useful. What I was not ready for was the great music. I love hearing the tuba in a bass line
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It’s a crying shame that wood shop , auto mechanics and other trades classes have been eliminated from so many high schools .
And it’s very ironic that they have been eliminated to free up money for more college prep classes when the trades jobs are going to be much more resistant to replacement by robots and computers than many of the jobs that college grads have traditionally done.
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I don’t think most people realize it, but there is a whole swath of “knowledge worker” jobs that are going to be filled by AIs in the very near future.
And it is going to be a very difficult time for millions of people who thought (and were told) that getting a college degree was the ticket to a good job.
We are woefully unprepared as a society for what is just around the corner.
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SomeDAM Poet
What will prepare the Public for the challenges of the future are not found in Math Class nor a Shop class. Union Construction trades have seen a decline from 87% market share after WW2 to under 12% market share today and falling. With that goes the standard of living of both Union and non Union tradesman.
In NYC a “Union town” we like to think! Union Electricians have a 20 % unemployment rate with the wait for a Job being over a year for many even with a European Style Job sharing plan that tries to ease unemployment. So much for shop class.
Now there are many reasons for this including the post Covid trend of working from home tanking the Commercial Real Estate industry. But the loss of market share in this once solid Union Town started near 3 decades ago.
So the topic that is not taught in K-12 is Political Science.
Yet it is the topic that would most benefit workers in uncertain times.
The most accepted definition of Political Science taught for many decades in College intro courses in Political Science and Economics; was created by Harold Laswell. Laswell a Communications expert in the FDR administration.
“Politics Who Determines Who Gets What When and How ”
Laswell 1936
You may be familiar with the other famous quote of Laswell used by Chomsky in “Manufacturing Consent”
“in whats nowadays called a totalitarian state/military state or something, it’s easy you just hold a bludgeon over their heads and if they get out of line you just smash them over the head, but as societies become more free and democratic you lose that capacity and therefore you have to turn to the techniques of propaganda.”
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Joel,
What you say doesn’t change the fact that it’s hard to make general purpose robots that can do the jobs of traditional tradespeople.
So, the demand for people to fill such jobs will remain well into the future.
Also, lots (in fact most) of the people working in the trades are not members of a union, so while nonunion people may get paid less, they still get paid pretty well in many cases. And if the jobs are there with no one to fill them, the pay will necessarily increase.
I actually view the future job situation for the trades as much better than that for so called “knowledge workers” (computer programmers, accountants, actuarials, stock analysts, economists, radiologists, etc). The latter jobs won’t simply suffer a pay reduction but will be eliminated entirely because the bots will do them much better for a fraction of the cost. Making a bot that can go under a sink and fix a leaky pipe is very difficult and it ain’t going to happen any time soon.
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As a relevant aside, the hourly rate that I have been able to charge for the jobs I have done as a non-union carpenter is actually higher than for any of the programming jobs that I had — and I was getting paid more than the industry average for software developers at my last job.
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Within a relatively short time (probably a decade or less) the vast majority of human computer programming jobs (especially “coding”) will be eliminated. The “software engineers” who are left will be relegated to glorified “bot prompters” for the AIs.
The irony is that the computer “scientists” are eliminating their own career.
It’s actually very humorous.
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Workin for the Bot
Promoting bots
Is what I do
Lots and lots
Of prompts, it’s true
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SomeDAM Poet
I am not denying your point on the future of White Collar Jobs. But your critique of the future of Blue collar work is a bit off. Technological Changes have already impacted many of the trades. From the tools used to the material installed.
Example : At one time high rise Residential Electrical Construction required skilled pipe benders for the conduits in concrete decks and the feeder conduits running up from floor to floor.Then wires had to be pulled through these conduits . More often than not that is now a flexible conduit with cables already installed allowing one skilled worker to point a bunch of low paid “bots” rolling out cables in the right direction. And yes a good many of those hired by non union firms are undocumented immigrants who are under paid and abused by their employers. ( If those workers were legalized it would make it easier to report abuse and Unionize them. I am not anti immigrant. Immigrants built the Union movement)
Your experience aside the vast majority of large scale construction from multi family High Rise to Commercial Construction is not very skilled. This enables non Union Contractors to hire a small number of skilled workers at hourly rates that are still far below Union Workers but relatively high. How ever the vast majority of that workforce here in NYC is earning under $22 an hour. Keep in mind the minimum wage is $15 in NYC. A city with one of the highest costs of living in the country.
In contrast the Union Trades spend 4-6 years training apprentices to do skilled work. Then send them out to do mostly non skilled work at skilled wages.
It is the non union sector clamoring for Public schools to provide the minimal amount of training they require. Pushing states to alter child labor laws to be able to place students in the workforce.
So you may have done a few small Jobs and have been compensated nicely but that is not the same as having to support a family on a steady salary.
Our history with trade agreements shows what happened to Blue Collar work in the regions affected most by those agreements. As workers left stable factory Jobs they entered the market competing for other jobs. Driving the wages down in entire regions of the country.
The myth about automation was that it happened in the mid 90s and 2000s. It happened in the 70s and 80s as American industry retooled when faced with foriegn competition they did not have after WW2 . The mid 90s and early 2000s saw these Jobs fall off a cliff. As American workers were placed in competition with the cheapest labor in the world. And the future will see another surge in automation of Blue collar jobs. Even in China as they face competition from even cheaper labor markets.
So what is the future of your freelance Carpentry Business when every Programmer in the country is looking to install Kitchen cabinets. Along with all those factory workers losing more work to Robots and all those unemployed Union Tradesman looking to get by long periods of unemployment.
The answer is how society divides these advances in productivity. Not in training millions of Carpenters to compete with millions of other Carpenters.
We do not have a shortage of construction workers like we do not have a shortage of truckers. We have a shortage of these workers willing to work for the wages that employers are offering. We do not have a shortage of Teachers in Red States we have a shortage of politicians willing to pay teachers a decent wage for their level of education.
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“We do not have a shortage of Teachers in Red States we have a shortage of politicians willing to pay teachers a decent wage for their level of education.”
Am I mistaken, or is enrollment in colleges of education falling across the country? The number of education degrees fell from 200,000 per year in the 1970s to 90,000 in 2018 per AACTE. Pew research says it fell from 176,307 in 1971 to 85,057 in 2020.
Is there any data that shows this trend varies by red state / blue state?
That’s not to say teachers in Florida, where I live, don’t need higher pay. Nor that the lapdog legislature, Dept of Education, and governor (wherever he is today) shouldn’t butt out of decisions best left to educators.
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SteveA
“Over the last 18 years, EPI has closely tracked trends in teacher pay. Over these nearly two decades, a picture of increasingly alarming trends has emerged.1 Simply put, teachers are paid less (in weekly wages and total compensation) than their nonteacher college-educated counterparts, and the situation has worsened considerably over time.
Prior to the pandemic, the long-trending erosion in the relative wages and total compensation of teachers was already a serious concern. The financial penalty that teachers face discourages college students from entering the teaching profession and makes it difficult for school districts to keep current teachers in the classroom. Trends in teacher pay coupled with pandemic challenges may exacerbate annual shortages of regular and substitute teachers.2
Providing teachers with compensation commensurate with that of other similarly educated professionals is not simply a matter of fairness but is necessary to improve educational outcomes and foster future economic stability of workers, their families, and communities across the U.S. We explain in greater detail why teacher pay and compensation is so important in a prior report (Allegretto and Mishel 2019). In this analysis, we add two more years, 2020 and 2021, to our long-running series.”
Why do the work when I can have an Economic think tank respected by Diane do it for me.
But first a word about Long Island where I live
“Camhi, who is also president of AASA, the national school superintendents association, said teacher shortages are not as severe on Long Island as elsewhere in the nation, due to higher salaries. However, there are local shortages in many fields and instances of poaching of teachers from one district by another”
So certainly there are shortages in few districts . The Districts where wages are higher and working conditions less challenging (less poverty ) have no problem filling those positions. The NYC schools having to compete with wealthy suburban Districts for teachers. By the way when I considered teaching (before I sat in on a HS class Taking in Ed 101 back in 1971) that situation was reversed. NYC Teachers had higher pay and the Island struggled to fill positions.
In Down State NY and NY in General the Teacher Penalty as described by EPI is much smaller. The wages of teachers far higher than the National median The vacancies are far, far fewer.
The easier example that I gave Poet was the Truck Driver. Wages adjusted for inflation have declined by as much as 50% since the 70s .
“For decades, truckers have quit at alarming rates, leading to a chronic shortage. The turnover rate was at a staggering 91 percent in 2019, which means that for every 100 people who signed up to drive, 91 walked out the door. Plenty of people have the commercial driver’s licenses needed to operate trucks, said Michael Belzer, a Wayne State University economist who has studied the industry for 30 years. “None of them will work for these wages,” he added”.
For some strange reason free market orthodoxy does not extend to labor. “If you pay them they will come”
https://www.epi.org/publication/teacher-pay-penalty-2022/
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Is there any state-by-state data that supports the contention that the teacher shortage varies by the state’s political affiliation?
Is there any that shows a difference between Red states and Blue states when it comes to education degrees?
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Joel– That automation history makes sense. By the early ‘80s, when I was getting to know my [printer’s union] father-in-law, he had already adapted to the computer version of setting ads—which was continually changing as hw/sw changed– and was training newbies how to do it. It didn’t surprise me that within the decade, secretaries and inventory clerks et al disappeared almost overnight from my husband’s industry [engrg/ construction]. They fell off the cliff.
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mathman– I love this explanation. You do it to keep your brain running well. I finally retired at 70. No hobbies that require math per se. But have always wondered why I enjoy the math required in simple and complex budgeting. And take pleasure in checking stats, making comparisons etc when reading articles that claim this or that. I even happily spent hours estimating what CBO’s $430 billion estimate of Biden’s student loan forgiveness really meant for middle/ working class taxpayers—read the estimate letter, calculated # of individual taxpayers [the # google shows is tax returns],etc. [The toughest part was figuring out how to apply prog tax brackets & to whom/ how many]. As you can see I am not an intuitive math type, or I’d grasp some basics that avoid all the calculations 😉 But it feels good, like stretching or taking a walk.
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SteveA
There is State by State Data but there are perhaps too many variables to make a simple list. But a State like NY or Massachusetts having a shortage with a state wide average of 12.1 students per teacher across all grades and subjects ,is different than Texas with 15.1 or Florida with 17.1 Students per teacher. That is simple Math. A state with tough certification requirements and a shortage different than those that allow teachers not fully certified to teach. 11% of Colorado teachers do not meet state certification requirements.
What we do know is Florida has some of the lowest Teacher salaries in the Nation and one of the worst shortages in the Nation. It has only gotten worse since DeFascist came to office.
“Florida has 5,294 teacher vacancies, the state education association says, compared with 2,217 vacancies in January 2019 when Gov. Ron DeSantis took office. “…
“But the main reason for her frustration, as for many teachers, is simple: pay.
“I’m a single woman, self-supporting, and the yearly ‘salary increases’ in my district never keep up with cost of living increases,” Turchin said. “It makes it nearly impossible to save, and it’s only because I live simply that I don’t have to work multiple jobs in order to make ends meet.”
“According to the National Education Association, Florida ranked 48th in the nation for teacher salaries in the 2020-2021 school year, giving them an average of $51,009. The national average that year was $65,293.”
Newsweek
Do you think teachers and those contemplating teaching are different in most low wage states. Now look who those low wage states are. Then add the war on educators in many of the same low wage states.
I don’t think its a stretch to fill in the map with a Red Marker.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/teacher-pay-by-state
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As I read this, I can’t help but think that the only “advanced math” application I have used is the Pythagorean theory. I love to build things and have applied that formula more than a few times when building, say, a roof. However, as my experience in such endeavors increased I also learned that I could apply a square for the same purpose. I remember watching the carpenters on “This Old House” apply practical geometry effectively and more quickly than had they stopped to write out A2 + B2 = C2. I think the only practical reason for students to take advanced mathematics that most of us forget at the end of the course, is if they are going into math or science careers. I recall having teachers tell us the justification for taking math from pre-algebra to calculus is to enhance our thinking and problem solving skills. Working with tools and our hands brings the same result. Math, like reading is a tool. Thinking is the trick.
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