This is a very moving story about a young couple who were raised by very strict parents and home-schooled. Their parents taught them that public schools were evil. They also taught them the importance of obedience and corporal punishment. But the parents did not want to inflict corporal punishment on their babies. When they began to question the cardinal principle of “spanking” their children, using the rod for discipline, they started questioning other articles of their faith. Read on. This link should give you free access to the Washington Post for this story.
In a wonderful example of long-form journalism, Peter Jamison writes:
ROUND HILL, Va. — They said goodbye to Aimee outside her elementary school, watching nervously as she joined the other children streaming into a low brick building framed by the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Christina and Aaron Beall stood among many families resuming an emotional but familiar routine: the first day of full-time, in-person classes since public schools closed at the beginning of the pandemic.
But for the Bealls, that morning in late August 2021 carried a weight incomprehensible to the parents around them. Their 6-year-old daughter, wearing a sequined blue dress and a pink backpack that almost obscured her small body, hesitated as she reached the doors. Although Aaron had told her again and again how brave she was, he knew it would be years before she understood how much he meant it — understood that for her mother and father, the decision to send her to school was nothing less than a revolt.
Aaron and Christina had never attended school when they were children. Until a few days earlier, when Round Hill Elementary held a back-to-school open house, they had rarely set foot inside a school building. Both had been raised to believe that public schools were tools of a demonic social order, government “indoctrination camps” devoted to the propagation of lies and the subversion of Christian families.
At a time when home education was still a fringe phenomenon, the Bealls had grown up in the most powerful and ideologically committed faction of the modern home-schooling movement. That movement, led by deeply conservative Christians, saw home schooling as a way of life — a conscious rejection of contemporary ideas about biology, history, gender equality and the role of religion in American government.
Christina and Aaron were supposed to advance the banner of that movement, instilling its codes in their children through the same forms of corporal punishment once inflicted upon them. Yet instead, along with many others of their age and upbringing, they had walked away.
Like all rebellions, this one had come with consequences. Their decision to send Aimee to the neighborhood elementary school — a test run to see how it might work for their other kids — had contributed to a bitter rift with their own parents, who couldn’t understand their embrace of an education system they had been raised to abhor. And it had led Christina, who until that summer day had home-schooled all of their children, into an existential crisis….
Across the country, interest in home schooling has never been greater. The Bealls could see the surge in Virginia, where nearly 57,000 children were being home-schooled in the fall of 2022 — a 28 percent jump from three years earlier. The rise of home education, initially unleashed by parents’ frustrations with pandemic-related campus closures and remote learning, has endured as one of the lasting social transformations wrought by covid-19.
But if the coronavirus was a catalyst for the explosion in home schooling, the stage was set through decades of painstaking work by true believers like those who had raised Aaron and Christina. Aided by the Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) — a Christian nonprofit that has been dubbed “the most influential homeschool organization in the world,” and is based less than five miles from the Bealls’ house in Northern Virginia — those activists had fought to establish the legality of home schooling in the 1980s and early 1990s, conquering the skepticism of public school administrators and state lawmakers across the country.
Through their influence, a practice with roots in the countercultural left took on a very different character. Among conservative Christians, home schooling became a tool for binding children to fundamentalist beliefs they felt were threatened by exposure to other points of view. Rightly educated, those children would grow into what HSLDA founder Michael Farris called a “Joshua Generation” that would seek the political power and cultural influence to reshape America according to biblical principles.
Home schooling today is more diverse, demographically and ideologically, than it was in the heyday of conservative Christian activism. Yet those activists remain extraordinarily influential.
Over decades, they have eroded state regulations, ensuring that parents who home-school face little oversight in much of the country. More recently, they have inflamed the nation’s culture wars, fueling attacks on public-school lessons about race and gender with the politically potent language of “parental rights.”
But what should be a moment of triumph for conservative Christian home-schoolers has been undermined by an unmistakable backlash: the desertion and denunciations of the very children they said they were saving.
Former home-schoolers have been at the forefront of those arguing for greater oversight of home schooling, forming the nonprofit Coalition for Responsible Home Education to make their case.
“As an adult I can say, ‘No. What happened to me as a child was wrong,’” said Samantha Field, the coalition’s government relations director….
Farris said it is not uncommon for children who grow up in oppressively patriarchal households to reject or at least moderate their parents’ beliefs. However, he said such families are a minority in the home-schooling movement and are often considered extreme even by other conservative Christians.
“I view this as the fringe of the fringe,” Farris said. “And every kid that I know that has lashed out at home schooling came out of this.”
Christina, 34, and Aaron, 37, had joined no coalitions. They had published no memoirs. Their rebellion played out in angry text messages and emails with their parents, in tense conversations conducted at the edges of birthday parties and Easter gatherings. Their own children — four of them, including Aimee — knew little of their reasons for abandoning home schooling: the physical and emotional trauma of the “biblical discipline” to which they had been subjected, the regrets over what Aaron called “a life robbed” by strictures on what and how they learned.
Aaron had grown up believing Christians could out-populate atheists and Muslims by scorning birth control; Christina had been taught the Bible-based arithmetic necessary to calculate the age of a universe less than 8,000 years old. Their education was one in which dinosaurs were herded aboard Noah’s ark — and in which the penalty for doubt or disobedience was swift. Sometimes they still flinched when they remembered their parents’ literal adherence to the words of the Old Testament: “Do not withhold correction from a child, for if you beat him with a rod, he will not die….”
n a religious community led by Gary Cox, an evangelical pastor and pioneer of Maryland’s home-schooling movement. Christina was a graduate of Cox’s home education network, Walkersville Christian Family Schools, while Aaron began attending Cox’s church in rural northern Maryland as a teenager. The minister exerted a powerful influence over his congregation and students, teaching that children live in divinely ordained subjection to the rule of their parents.
Cox — who still operates a home-schooling organization, now called Wellspring Christian Family Schools — declined repeated interview requests. Last year his son, Dan Cox, a home-schooled Maryland state delegate who denied the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election, won the Republican gubernatorial primary. He went on to lose in a landslide to Democrat Wes Moore.
During Aaron and Christina’s “courtship” — a period of chaperoned contact that served as a prelude to formal engagement — they seemed ready to fulfill their parents’ hopes. Eating calamari in Annapolis or touring Colonial Williamsburg, they talked about what their future would include (home schooling) and what it would not (music with a beat that can be danced to). But signs soon emerged of the unimaginable rupture that lay ahead.
On a spring afternoon in 2012, the couple sat in a small church in Queenstown, Md. In preparation for marriage, they were attending a three-day seminar on “Gospel-Driven Parenting” run by Chris Peeler, a minister whose family was part of Gary Cox’s home-schooling group. The workshop covered a range of topics, including the one they were now studying: “Chastisement.”
“The use of the rod is for the purpose of breaking the child’s will,” stated the handout that they bent over together in the church. “One way to tell if this has happened is to see if they can look you in the eyes after being disciplined and ask for forgiveness….”
Aaron actually shared Christina’s qualms. He knew that the term parents in the movement casually used for discipline, “spankings,” did not capture the childhood terror of being struck several times a week — sometimes more, sometimes less — with what he describes as a shortened broomstick for disobeying commands or failing to pay attention to his schoolwork.
The memory of waiting as a small child outside his parents’ bedroom for his mother to summon him in; the fear that his transgressions might be enough to incur what he called “killer bee” spankings, when the rod was used against his bare skin; his efforts to obey the order to remain immobile as he was hit — all these sensations and emotions seeped into his bones, creating a deep conviction that those who fail to obey authority pay an awful price.
“For a long time, I’ve wondered why I was so unable to think for myself in this environment,” he says today, attributing the shortcoming to “learning that even starting to think, or disagree with authorities, leads to pain — leads to physical and real pain that you cannot escape…”
“When it came time for me to hit my kids, that was the first independent thought I remember having: ‘This can’t be right. I think I’ll just skip this part,’” he says.
But if that seemingly inviolable dogma was false, what else might be? Aaron gradually began to feel adrift and depressed.
“It’s like having the rug pulled out from under your feet,” he says. “All of reality is kind of up for grabs.”
He scoured Amazon for books about evolution and cosmology. Eventually, he found his way to blog posts and books by former Christian fundamentalists who had abandoned their religious beliefs. He watched an interview with Tara Westover, whose best-selling memoir, “Educated,” detailed the severe educational neglect and physical abuse she endured as a child of survivalist Mormon home-schoolers in Idaho.
And in the spring of 2021, as he and Christina were struggling to engage Aimee in her at-home lessons, he suggested a radical solution: Why not try sending their daughter to the reputable public elementary school less than a mile from their house?
Christina could think of many reasons. They were the same ones Aaron had learned as a child: Public schools were places where children are bullied, or raped in the bathroom, or taught to hate Jesus.
But she also suspected that Aimee could use the help of professional educators. Just as important, she had learned all her life that it was her duty to obey her husband. She was confounded and angry, at both Aaron and the seeming contradiction his suggestion had exposed.
“I guess I’m just honestly confused and wonder what you think,” she wrote in an email to her father in May 2021. “I’m supposed to submit to Aaron, he wants the kids to go to public school. … You think that’s a sin but it’s also a sin to not listen to your husband so which is it?”
At first, Christina’s and Aaron’s parents reacted to the news that they were considering public school for Aimee with dazed incomprehension. Did Christina feel overwhelmed, they asked? Did she need more help with work around the house? As long as Aimee was learning to read, she would be fine, Aaron’s mother assured them. Christina’s father sent a YouTube video of John Taylor Gatto, a famous critic of America’s public education system…
Aimee, meanwhile, was thriving at Round Hill Elementary. By the third quarter, her report card said she was “a pleasure to teach,” was “slowly becoming more social and more willing to participate in class” and showed “tremendous growth” in her reading skills, which had lagged below grade level at the beginning of the year.
For several months after that first week of classes — when she had come home wearing a paper hat, colored with blue crayon and printed with the words “My First Day of First Grade” — Aimee had had a stock response when her parents asked her how she liked school: She would suppress a grin, say she “hated it,” and then start laughing at her own joke.
“You should have asked to go to school,” Aimee, who knew her mom had been educated at home, would eventually tell Christina. “It affects your whole life.”
Now it was Christina’s turn to question her belief — not in Christianity, but in the conservative Christian approach to home schooling. She began to research spiritual abuse and the history of Christian nationalism. Ideas she had never questioned — such as the statement, in a book given to her by her dad, that it “would be a waste of her time and her life” for a woman to work outside the house — no longer made sense…
Despite Aimee’s positive experience, Aaron and Christina were anxious, both for their children and about how their parents would react. One afternoon in June, Christina sent a text message to her mother.
“I need to tell you that all three kids are going to school in the fall. I’m sorry, because I know this will be upsetting and disappointing to you and dad,” Christina wrote. “I figured you should hear it from me first.”
Three hours later, her mother texted back.
“Dearest Christina, it is not at all upsetting or disappointing to me,” Catherine Comfort wrote. “You and Aaron are outstanding parents and I’m sure you made the decision best for your family.”
Even Aaron’s parents budged from their hostility to public schools. They showed up at a school performance of “The Lion King,” where Ezra played a wildebeest. Afterwards they gave him a big hug.
The Bealls began a process of self-education, trying to make up for what they had missed. They wanted their children to have the opportunities for learning that were closed to them.
They were doing so in Loudoun County, one of the hotbeds of America’s culture wars over public instruction about race and gender. To the Bealls, who truly knew what it was like to learn through the lens of ideology, concerns about kids being brainwashed in public schools were laughable.
“People who think the public schools are indoctrinating don’t know what indoctrination is. We were indoctrinated,” Aaron says. “It’s not even comparable.”
There were still moments when they were condemned by an inner voice telling them that they were doing the wrong thing, that both they and their children would go to hell for abandoning the rod and embracing public schools. But the voice was usually silenced by their wonder and gratitude at the breadth of their children’s education.

It is mind-boggling how much violence and mental anguish that we, as a nation, allow parents to inflict upon innocent children (and anyone else deemed a “sinner”) in the name of “God”. The beatings continue until morale improves. Got it.
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exactly
It’s truly shocking that millions of Americans continue to adhere to Bronze Age superstition. Such is the power of early childhood indoctrination. Fear and ignorance and rationalization of absurdity keep people from throwing it off.
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Religion appeals to an infantile desire, persisting into adulthood, to be protected and have all questions answered by an all-powerful benign parent. People know, secretly, that it’s bs, and that’s why they use the term “belief,” as opposed to “knowledge,” to describe it. Consider the difference between “There’s a beer in the fridge,” said if you know this to be the case and “I believe there’s a beer in the fridge,” said if you think that this might be so but are not sure. Because people secretly know that they have zero evidence of their superstition but hold only it strongly, they experience cognitive dissonance. This shows up as extreme anger when the superstition is challenged–anger that shows up in the severe punishment that fundamentalists mete out to their kids, in the severe punishments baked into fundamentalist legislation, and, of course, in religious wars, which have left rivers of blood throughout history. It is LONG PAST TIME to throw off these mental shackles from the infancy of human cultures.
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Religion is one-stop shopping philosophically, as well. Because it answers all one’s questions, one can turn thinking off almost completely. Thinking and curiosity stop in that direction, and so it’s not surprising that the most religious places are the least educated ones, and the least educated ones are the most religious ones.
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YEP!! to all three of your comments. Thanks!
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Bob– To me, stories like the one posted here are about the pernicious effects of the isolated social group. Belonging becomes everything, peer pressure a constant reinforcement, shunning the ever-present fear. Thus the outrageous, insidiously, becomes normalized. Lord of the Flies effect.
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YES, Ginny! Cults almost always isolate members from the rest of the world, and especially from those who might critique the cult in any way. Any critique is commonly couched as the work of some entity that serves as The Adversary. Acquaintances of mine recently became involved in a New Age cult called Marconics. Part of the teaching of this cult was that members (called “lightworkers”) were constantly under attack by invisible space alien reptilians. They cult members were also taught that they must scrupulously avoid negative energy persons who would compromise their ascension and that this was a matter of illness versus health and ultimately of death versus life. Bizarre but common.
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These cults use groupthink, group bonding activities, public confessions, and, importantly, testimonials of members who are further along in their trainings or whatever.
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One of the ways in which you can tell that “Education Reform” is cultism–one of the tells–is that it is absolutely unperturbed by any facts. Ironically, given its supposed emphasis on “data,” years of ABSOLUTELY ZERO IMPROVEMENT IN OUTCOMES based on the supposed reforms are completely discounted. Cultists are impervious to facts.
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Bob– I would say “religion” per se is not the subject of the posted story, rather cult. A cult’s agenda may seem to be about religion, or politics, or lifestyle, but it is only about power. Most use some trappings of religious practice to clothe that agenda.
You capture those most easily converted here: the need “to be protected and have all questions answered by an all-powerful benign parent,” and “one-stop shopping philosophically, because it answers all one’s questions.”
Americans have a weakness, a pearl handle for cults, and it’s not just to be led around by the nose [that’s only for the most vulnerable—like children 🤬]. It’s that individualistic, “don’t tread on me” thing. A cult is against. Doesn’t matter how big your mega-church is, its members are convinced they’re holding the line against those in far-greater power, who seeks to undermine them.
This is why Trumpistas flail around when they actually win political power. And why evangelist cults seek other, ever-smaller non-conforming minorities, now that they scored against all women with the Dobbs decision. Or grab onto trivial non-issues like CRT and DEI. They are bullies, but their bullying is reframed for members as fighting the good fight against huge forces: the liberals, the academic (or business) elites, etc.
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A religion is a cult that has persisted and grown. And from the very beginning of monotheism, it was all about power–the king or pharaoh was the representative of the god on earth, and his home was the major temple AND the seat of power. It housed not only him and his family but also the scribes who recorded the in-kind taxes and the priests who asserted the god’s and the kiing’s power, and the warriors who enforced that power, all of whom were nonproducers who had to be supported by taking from the people. Such was the origin of civilization in those ancient hydrophilic states, which were centrally organized because of the need to marshal enormous labor forces under a single command in order to carry out large-scale irrigation projects necessary for settled, grain-based agriculture. And yes, America has been an astonishingly fertile ground for new religions/cults, whatever one chooses to call them. Thousands and thousands of these from the earliest days onward. A huge explosion of them in the 19th century and then again in the early and late 20th centuries.
You are right about the bullying. Cult leaders use fear of the Other/The Adversary, as well as The Promise, and group solidarity and specialness and peer pressure (positive and negative sanction), among other techniques, to hold the cult together, to keep members attached. The fundamental techniques are remarkably similar in vastly different cults and across almost all of them.
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It’s that individualistic, “don’t tread on me” thing.
Good point, Ginny!!!!
We are special. We’re the ones with the inside scoop (the gnosis).
Heady stuff.
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Bob—great synopsis of the big picture historically, thanks for that.
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The conservative ruling party of India, lauded by Trump, just removed evolution and the periodic table and many other scientific topics from the national school curricula. Because ancient superstition.
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When I see that, it makes me feel like the Chinese must feel when they see American schools eliminating advanced math classes. The feeling of competitive advantage.
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But there is not competitive advantage if in vast swaths of the United States, one has to teach a DeSanitized curriculum.
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I hope this is read far and wide. The emotional trauma endured by these parents as they came to realize that was was more to the world than they had been brainwashed to believe is palpable. But what was impressed on me the most was the insulated and restricted world these parents grew up in and the power the “leaders” hold over them. Christian Nationalism, in all its forms, has the potential for enormous harm.
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Sad to realize that there are large numbers of people-millions?-who are indoctrinated into these narrow ideas.
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Seven in ten Americans identify as xtians. That adds up to hundreds of millions.
https://www.prri.org/research/2020-census-of-american-religion/
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That doesn’t mean they actually believe in it. I identify as a Catholic, unless I’m in the company of Catholics, in which case I’m an atheist.
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Interestingly, though, religious belief is way down among young people, and the Pew religion studies have shown that Americans are AS LIKELY to believe in astrology or reincarnation as they are to believe in traditional Christian notions like the virgin birth, descent from Adam and Eve, hell, and the devil. Those same studies show that most Americans today practice what I call the religion of Vaguism. They are quite sure that hell and witches and the devil and the transmutation of the wafer and wine and the divine sanction of the genocides of the Old Testament are stupid old superstitions, and they aren’t quite sure about stuff like ghosts and the resurrection, but they still cling to the general description of themselves as Christians, rather as some 7-year-olds still drag around their ratty old baby blankies.
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Ha ha, Bob, you have me pegged. My spiritualism was always bigger than whatever religious house I sought for its practice, so the more I learned, the more I folded into the batter. By college that included Buddhism and reincarnation, in my 20’s other spheres of reality gleaned through mediums, in my 30’s astrology. It all seemed to “fit.” And the ratty old baby blankie still dragged along!
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p.s., I forgot to include everything scientific– fractias were a particularly lovely addition!
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cx: fractals
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Many years ago, I was a freshman at Indiana University, sitting in a large lecture hall a week or so into an Introduction to Genetics course. The professor was talking about the insights we can get into human evolutionary history, going back millions of years, by studying genetic differences worldwide, when a young woman raised her hand and asked, “OK. But where do Adam and Eve fit into all this?”
In the last school I taught at, a parent called my AP and told her that “Mr. Shepherd is teaching demonology in his classes” because I had assigned my theatre class to read Act I of Macbeth. In the same school, a COLLEAGUE of mine, a math teacher whose daughter was in my 12-grade Debate class, went to the principal and demanded that I be fired because I had asked the students each to write out two possible debate topics and pass them in. I then read these aloud to the class. My fundamentalist Christian fellow faculty member wanted me fired because one of the topics the students had listed and that I read aloud was “transgender bathrooms.” That’s it. that was the offense that was supposed to cost me my job.
And my FIRST THOUGHT was that this woman’s daughter, so protected from ideas held by people out in the world, was going to find her first days out in the world–in college (if it wasn’t some fundy college like Liberty University) or in the workplace–really, really shocking. The crazy nonsense she had been taught is no longer widely believed.
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Reblogged this on Crazy Normal – the Classroom Exposé and commented:
Aaron and his wife were both homeschooled by strict fundamentalist Christians who did not spare the rod. Then they became parents, and changed their minds.
“People who think the public schools are indoctrinating don’t know what indoctrination is. We were indoctrinated,” Aaron says. “It’s not even comparable.”
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Not even close.
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Good stuff, but you forgot one thing. Have lots of money and use the non-existence and -enforcement of U.S. law to hold it accountable as your platform to make more from your followers.
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That little essay of mine could easily be fleshed out into a book simply by adding examples of the various techniques from real-life new and old religions/cults. Lord knows that someone like Malcolm Gladwell routinely takes less material (one idea) and fleshes it out into a book. Blink. The Tipping Point. Outliers. Arm Flapping. Oh, he hasn’t done the last of these yet.
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Sneeze: How ideas build, irritate, and explode upon the world, by Seer of the Obvious
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If our schools taught any prehistory, then Americans would know that humans existed for hundreds of thousands of years before one tribe of them invented monotheism.
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Good afternoon Bob and everyone,
I think a big assumption is that the more educated one is, the more he/she will act and think in a rational, reasonable way. However, we can think of many examples where that is not the case. There are many things that shape and influence one’s behavior, thoughts and actions. So, I think it’s a fallacy to think that education will solve all our problems. It won’t. At no other time in history have human beings had more access to information on a wider range of subjects than they do now. Yet we still have what we have. 🙂 Happy weekend.
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DeSantis was educated at Yale and Harvard, yet he is a cruel, hateful bigot. Agree, Mamie.
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Yes, Mamie. But in general, would you rather be governed by the uneducated?
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Mamie, it is arguably the case (Stephen Pinker did this at length in The Better Angels of Our Nature) that we are living in a) the most educated and b) the least violent time in history. We have problems, but we are not in the middle of a world war or of colonial expansion around the globe or mass genocides. I would expect that a teacher, of all people, would agree that it is better for people to be educated. Are there awful people with degrees? Of course. Joseph Goebbels had a PhD and specialized in philology and Romantic literature. But IN GENERAL, educated societies are less violent and less criminal, and people in them are healthier and happier.
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I’m not a big fan of Pinker, who is largely an apologist for the Status Quo and for the ruling class, but he’s right about this. I’m a teacher. I think that it’s better for people to be educated and that reason is preferable to superstition.
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Hi Bob,
Maybe. It depends on the person. You and I are educated so we tend to look at education as an important aspect of a person to have. But there are qualities that are maybe just as important or even more so – open-mindedness, humility, compassion, the ability to see the big picture, vulnerability, empathy, good judgement, integrity, self-knowledge, the ability to relate to all sorts of people, problem-solving, being inclusive, looking out for the common good just to name a few. 🙂 We HOPE that education will nurture these qualities in people (I do, at least) but it isn’t always so. 😦
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“I think a big assumption is that the more educated one is, the more he/she will act and think in a rational, reasonable way.”
So, I don’t agree, Mamie. I think that educated people TEND to act better than uneducated people do. Look at crime statistics. They are strongly correlated with education.
https://esfandilawfirm.com/correlation-between-education-and-crime/
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This isn’t just a matter of opinion. Educated people are much less violent, in general, than uneducated people are. They indulge in much less antisocial behavior. They commit much less crime. All this is overwhelmingly confirmed by research conducted by sociologists, psychologists, and criminal justice professionals.
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That said, here’s an issue:
We have already seen with millennials and Gen Z, a dramatic decline in earnings. This is partly due to the fact that we have more educated people chasing the same number of upper-level jobs and very largely due to automation. The latter will become more and more a problem. We are going to have a LOT of highly educated people who cannot find work, and this will create social and political unrest on a massive scale unless we address the issue. But getting our politicians to look forward at all is difficult. Almost impossible. Buckle your seatbelts. Things may change when a lot of educated people, as well as educated ones, are hungry and dispossessed, and when even more wealth is concentrated in even fewer hands.
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Levels of divorce, alcoholism, teenage pregnancy, drug addiction, domestic abuse, crime, violence, membership in nationalist and racist organizations–all are strongly correlated with level of education.
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Kristof believes that none of those factors matter, so long as the schools teach the science of reading. Question: if everyone got high reading scores, would poverty disappear?
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Diane, we are all enormously in your debt because for years you have turned again and again and again, in your magnificent books, essays, and blog posts to this, the most important fact about education in America: It’s the poverty, stupid. Fix that, and the rest follows. Fail to fix that, and you’ll get nowhere. Even on your preferred reformy measure, test scores, you’ll get no improvement–nada–just a long flatline.
So thank you. On behalf of teachers, parents, and kids, for making this your great theme.
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Bob,
The reformers have claimed for more than the past decade that poverty is no obstacle. TFA used to make that claim. Their young recruits were so great that they could overcome poverty. Again and again, reformers said poverty was an excuse. Hunger? No medical care? No problem. High test scores conquer all.
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Idiotic, of course. But thank you for continuing to hammer away at this until they get it!!!!!
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It’s getting the causation all wrong, all backward, as you point out. Fix the poverty. The rest will follow. The education and, concurrently, all these other problems.
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Hi Bob,
I just can’t imagine that you would believe that I advocate an uneducated populace.😊All I am saying is that people are more than their education. Tout court.😊
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I did not accuse you of advocating for an uneducated populace, Mamie. My intention was to point out that you couldn’t actually mean what you seemed to imply, that it was not the case that more educated people tend to “act and think in a rational, reasonable way.” Obviously, more educated people do tend to act and think in a more rational, reasonable way,” and that’s all I said–that that was so.
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Well, Bob, I guess what I am saying is that even educated people (and I don’t even know what we are defining as “educated”) are NOT always going to act and think in reasonable and rational ways. And just because a person is “educated” (again, I don’t know what you think that is – high school, college?? Many brilliant people never had a formal education. So what is “educated?”) does not necessarily mean that person is the person you would want in a certain job such as politician. I only mention politician because you asked me if I wanted to be “governed by the uneducated.” There may well be cases in which I would want a “less educated” (again, I don’t know what you think that is) person but one who showed other qualities like the ones I mentioned. I don’t think we can count on the fact that just because a person is educated he/she will always be rational and reasonable. There are many factors that influence a person’s behavior. People behave differently in different situations as well. There’s a lot going on inside people. Education is important, yes, but it’s not the only aspect of a person that should be considered. That’s all. 🙂
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Anti-intellectualism is a huge problem in America. Chris Rufo said that one reason he thought (correctly) that “critical race theory” would be a big hit for conservatives is that it sounded academic/intellectual, and lots of Americans hate anything that smells of the academy. THIS IS REALLY HORRIFYING. We have become a country that worships ignorance. Or that thinks that being knowledgeable is just another of a wide variety of characteristics. So, it didn’t matter that Shrub had the brains of a head of lettuce. He was someone people thought they could have a beer with. Yee-haw.
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It’s bizarre. In almost every other field of endeavor, we would insist that a person have knowledge in the field in which he or she wished to work. (Oops, I forgot. I am not allowed to say “field” anymore. LOL.) We wouldn’t hire a dentist who had not studied dentistry. We require that someone working in a beauty shop have a cosmetology degree. But we choose as president people who have never read a book on foreign policy, who don’t know even basic economics, who couldn’t find Ukraine on a map, who couldn’t tell you what the nuclear triad or the Rome Statute is. AND THIS MATTERS. People like Trump and Shrub acted as they did out of breathtaking ignorance. But we insist on greater subject-area expertise from someone whom we hire to run a gas station or a soda fountain.
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This anti-intellectualism in U.S. culture might well eventually be the end of us. We just saw what happens when we have a scientifically illiterate president. More than a million Covid deaths, most of them preventable. So much blood on those tiny hands, and now the moronovirus is running for president again.
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Anti-intellectualism as a driver of American politics is very old. Besides modern examples like Eisenhower defeating the intellectual Stevenson, we have the rise of the cult of the common man under Jackson, which gave rise to the Whigs and their running of people Like Franklin Pierce, who did not shine like the sun. One of the scary things about our leadership today is its similarity to the two decades from 1840 to 1860, when leadership was in decline. Trying to get a smart person elected president is well nigh impossible, so political leaders play the part of the common man.
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DeSantis sneers at elites and pretends he didn’t go to Yale and Harvard Law School.
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Maybe intellectualism will be the end of us. 🙂
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There is a possibly apocryphal story that Archimedes was doing a calculation in the sand and failed to hear a command made by one of the Roman soldiers invading his town of Syracuse. This led some wag to comment that no Roman ever lost his life because he was too engaged in thought.
Don’t pretend, even in jest, to abjure reason while you are in the process of reasoning about a question, Mamie. LOL. I certainly think that we have more to worry about from the Donald Trumps and Margorie Taylor Greenes and Greg Abbots of the world than from, say, then person in the academy who just finished his or her dissertation on Tiresias among the daffodils: gender and sex in English pastoral poetry. LOL.
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I often reflect on my 1-12 education that is not dissimilar from and others’ attempts. These governor’s and their supporters should take caution. The fifties education led to the sixties reformations for a good number of us. Learning as adults was eye opening.
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…from Desantis and other governors’
Slipped finger error!
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Interesting article. Made me think of James. Wondered if ‘religion’ was the base or foundation of his home-schooling or if his dad just wanted pure power over him.
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 11:02 AM Diane Ravitch’s blog < comment-reply@wordpress.com> wrote:
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Jamison?
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If our schools taught any prehistory, then Americans would know that humans existed for hundreds of thousands of years before one tribe of them invented monotheism.
I worked for years in the textbook publishing industry. At one time or another, I worked for almost all of the major textbook publishing houses. Almost all of them had in-house lists of forbidden stuff, not to be mentioned in textbooks. Drugs. Dating. Sex. Alcohol. Smoking. Often, these lists of taboos were many pages long. And they typically included genetics, DNA, evolution, cavemen and cavewomen, prehistoric life, geological deep time, the Big Bang, and a bunch of other stuff that didn’t accord with the superstitious account of the origins of the universe and of human beings described in that library of ancient superstition known as the Bible. Exceptions were made for carefully vetted material in Biology and Astronomy texts, where such topics were treated, on purpose, extremely vaguely and gingerly. So, this is an example of how superstition stands in the way of, prevents, education.
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When a writing assignment was given to someone (or to some group) out of house, it typically included the list of forbidden topics. One expects censorship of contemporary scientific knowledge on the part of the government of Iran or the current government of India, but we have along had precisely the same thing, de facto, in the United States.
Don’t say anything that might disturb their dogmatic slumbers!
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cx: we have long had
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I understand home schooling to avoid bullying or other violence.
Aside from that, you can’t protect your children from the world forever.
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In his book Naturalist, E.O. Wilson talks about how it didn’t take long, studying to be a biologist, for him to lose the religious faith that he was indoctrinated with as a child. The GREAT New Testament scholar Bart Ehrman has written in a number of his books and essays of how people go off to college to study theology in preparation for becoming a priest or minister and then learn stuff that causes them to lose their faith. Knowledge pushes out superstition. It happens. This happens so regularly that an enormous percentage of graduates are faced with an issue–they have trained to be a minister, but they no longer believe. So, do they fake it? Or do they find something else to do? A lot of them, Ehrman says, end up faking it. Pretending to still believe the ancient myths.
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Pretending still to believe them even though now, having studied this stuff historically, they know that it’s just mythology, like any other mythology, with particular historical and psychological origins.
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“Hell yes, I’m a religious man, but I don’t have a favorite. I sorta like ‘em all.”
Attributed to Woody Guthrie
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Haaaa!!! A fellow Omnitheist!
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“I got a good place amongst the leaves, and set there on a log, munching the bread and watching the ferryboat, and very well satisfied. And then something struck me. I says, now I reckon the widow or the parson or somebody prayed that this bread would find me, and here it has gone and done it. So there ain’t no doubt but there is something in that thing – that is, there’s something in it when a body like the widow or the parson prays, but it don’t work for me, and I reckon it don’t work for only just the right kind.“
Huck Finn ch 8
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Oh Lord, but that’s just wonderful.
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Thanks so much for sharing this, Roy. It’s been a while.
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Reblogged this on What's Gneiss for Education.
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Oh, the thrill of it all.
To be free enough to embrace
cosmic insignificance. Yes,
it’s made up, from religion
to words. See through all the
religious stuff, but captured
by the word stuff. It’s just
mythology, like any other
mythology FFS…
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Who is praising embracing insignificance? No one.
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And certainly there is meaning (in the senses of significance and purpose) not captured in words. A few years back, I was reading through a collection of famous essays in linguistic philosophy, and I ran across an essay in which a quite famous contemporary philosopher was making the preposterous claim that nonhuman animals couldn’t possibly be sentient because they don’t have language, which he claimed was necessary for formulating conscious experience. LOL. And immediately I thought, here is a person who lives so much in a world made of words–in a flow of babble in his head–that he or she has forgotten how simply to be there, a warm breathing. He or she is stunted–perhaps beautifully stunted, like a bonzai tree–but stunted nonetheless. I think that such a person really needs to take up meditation lessons under an expert. We all know the experience of trying to find the word(s) to express what we are feeling. And some of the greatest literary works succeed precisely because they ALMOST capture the uncapturable. Wallace Stevens says that a poem should just escape the understanding. It was that notion that he was driving at.
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Meaning in all three senses, of intention and significance and purpose, can precede language or exist in the absence of language, and it’s easy to adduce examples of that. And, of course, meaning in all these senses is not dependent at all upon clinging to ancient superstition about heaven and hell and a Daddy in the sky.
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I’ma check off on my checklist beating the children as a bad idea here. Kinda can backfire on ya.
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lol
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I just read this in WaPo yesterday. Sad, yet inspiring. The poet Sharon Olds explores the psychological complexity of this theme in her collection “The Unswept Room.” Google this one: “The Day They Tied Me Up.”
Was happy to see Westover’s book “Educated!” busy at work helping people like herself.
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Thanks for sharing this stuff, Ginny.
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Soooo powerful!!!
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/browse?contentId=36935
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use this link instead– that one leaves off the last dozen lines: https://sihamkarami.wordpress.com/2018/04/09/sharon-olds-body-and-soul/
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And after you read the last dozen lines… Gotta check out this related poem: https://connectere.wordpress.com/2015/11/27/after-37-years-my-mother-apologizes-for-my-childhood-by-sharon-olds/
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!!!!!!!
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Thanks, Ginny!!!
These are difficult to read! Lord, the stuff people live through!!!!
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christinekenneally/orphanage-death-catholic-abuse-nuns-st-josephs
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Re: Olds’s poem. The bravery and intelligence of the speaker in this poem are so moving. Wow!!! What a great work.
I have a friend whose mother was subjected to breathtakingly evil abuse as a child in a Catholic orphanage in Colombia. The mother never recovered. She’s a mess.
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