No major media outlet did more to spread the lie that Trump won the 2020 election than FOX NEWS. It gave a platform to election deniers, including those who baselessly claimed that Dominion Voting Systems rigged the vote to favor Biden. Dominion is suing FOX and some of the leading exponents of this view. The case will be heard in April.
We now know, after publication of the depositions, that no one at FOX believed Trump’s lies. They agreed to spread them to protect their ratings. We will be watching to see if FOX is held accountable for allowing liars to undermine our democracy.
George Will wrote about the case. He does not defend FOX.
Five days after the 2020 presidential election, Sidney Powell, the fabulist lawyer, appeared on Maria Bartiromo’s Fox News show to say there has been “a massive and coordinated” effort to “delegitimize and destroy” Trump votes and “manufacture” Biden votes. Bartiromo asked her to elaborate. Powell obliged, talking about Dominion voting machines “flipping votes in the computer system or adding votes that did not exist.”
Four days later, Rudy Giuliani said on Fox Business’s Lou Dobbs program that the Dominion company’s owner was created “to fix elections” — to perform election fraud with sinister software. Dobbs: “It’s stunning.” And: “Rudy, we’re glad you’re on the case.”
On Dec. 10, 2020, Powell said on Dobbs’s program that a “controller module” in Dominion machines allows people to “manipulate the vote,” enabling “Dominion executives” to “sell elections to the highest bidder.” Dobbs lamented this “broadly coordinated effort” to defeat Trump.On Jan. 26, 2021, Mike Lindell, the pillow salesman and substantial advertiser on Fox News, said on Tucker Carlson’s program: “I have the evidence … I dare Dominion to sue me because then it will get out faster … they don’t want to talk about it.” Carlson: “No they don’t.”
Yes, they do. Come April, in the Superior Court of Delaware, the Dominion voting machine company will argue that it has suffered substantial injuries (it is seeking $1.6 billion in damages) because of defamatory statements about the 2020 presidential election that were made, repeatedly, on Fox News.
That the statements were false was obvious. That they were lies — known to be false by those who made them — cannot be reasonably doubted.
Among the difficult questions, however, are: What did Fox News know and when did it know it? (The Wall Street Journal, which like Fox News ultimately answers to Rupert Murdoch, was dismissive of the election fraud claims.) How did Fox News on-air personnel behave when the lies were spoken on the air? Did behavior by people purporting to be journalists constitute complicity in the lying?Dominion’s 139-page complaint alleges numerous examples, such as those above, of Fox News broadcasters being credulous when eliciting preposterous allegations from Donald Trump’s most unhinged devotees. The complaint says Fox “made,” “published,” “ratified,” “endorsed,” “adopted,” “amplified,” “promoted” and gave “a platform to” the lies. But those eight activities have different implications in litigation about defamatory journalism.
Dominion’s complaint argues that Fox News “gave life to” an election fraud story casting Dominion as “the villain.” Trump, enraged by Fox declaring Joe Biden the winner of Arizona and the presidency, successfully urged viewers to abandon Fox. To “lure viewers back” Fox News “endorsed, repeated, and broadcast” many “verifiably false yet devastating lies” about Dominion machines using “software and algorithms” to produce or erase votes, thereby assuring Biden’s victory. “Fox,” Dominion argues, “gave these fictions a prominence they otherwise would never have achieved.” It did this “because the lies were good for Fox’s business.”
Fox could argue, plausibly if uncomfortably, that some of its performers are entertainers lacking aptitudes, motives or incentives for making journalistic judgments about meretricious statements uttered on their programs. And that what might look like “reckless disregard” for the truth (a component of defamation) was merely indifference to it.
Was Fox malicious? Actual malice involves “knowledge that [a statement] was false” or “reckless disregard of whether it was false or not.” Fox could argue that its focus on Dominion was just show business — that Fox News performers were not preoccupied with accuracy. So, slovenly interviewing by Fox hosts pandering to fickle viewers could be presented as a defense against liability for defamation.
Dominion’s complaint alleges that repeated Fox appearances by Powell and Giuliani “gave Fox’s stamp of approval” to lies about Dominion. But the more Fox fanned the flames, the more it could say it was merely giving a platform to newsworthy arsonists.
In his essay “When Are Lies Constitutionally Protected?” UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh says the Supreme Court has upheld punishment for, inter alia, lies constituting defamation, libel, perjury, false statements to government investigators and fraudulent charitable fundraising. Dominion must establish legally cognizable harm from lies not merely reported by, but aggressively disseminated by, a media entity that prospered by encouraging the liars.
That some Fox News personalities (Jeanine Pirro: “Sidney Powell, good luck on your mission”) behaved abominably is indisputable, as is the fact that Dominion was severely injured. The Delaware court’s challenge will be to deliver justice for Dominion without having a chilling effect on journalism. Not that this profession was clearly involved in Fox’s role in the nation’s post-election embarrassment.
In his deposition for the lawsuit, FOX entertainer Sean Hannity allegedly testified that he never believed “for a second” that Trump won, even though he hosted numerous guests who said he did. Rupert Mt Murdoch, Tucker Carlson, and other FOX on-air personalities admitted that they peddled lies.
Well this is a consequence of organizations relying more on viewers and subscriptions (online, cable) than advertisers for their revenue. Unfortunately too many viewers want to see “news” that reinforces their beliefs rather than educate themselves along with immoral pundits more than happy to oblige them in order to earn their multi-million dollar salaries. I believe two things must occur in order to improve this situation:
1. Remove the protections social media companies have from liability for wanton disinformation/slander.
2. Reinstitute some form of an updated “fairness doctrine”.
Slim chance of happening.
I learned to my regret that the “package” I bought from my cable company includes FOX and that every subscriber to Spectrum and Optimum (the services I pay for) pays $4 a month to FOX, even if they never turn it on. So all of us who have cable are enriching Murdoch and his lying personalities.
I bought one of those cheap, digital antennas that picks up free TV. It gets the major networks plus some oddball channels that show re-runs. Maybe that sort of antenna would work where you are?
In fact, the custodians were throwing out a big, boxy TV early one morning and I took one of those. They helped load it in my car. The place was having to pay to junk them. Seems like everyone wants flat screens these days.
Yes, I’m not ashamed to say….I’m a trash picker.
Here’s one of the websites about free TV. https://antennatv.tv/get-antenna-tv/
Fox news in neither entertaining or news. It is propaganda. It is mostly trash talk from bobble heads who lack integrity or a moral code normal expected from civilized people.
Fox News shouldn’t be allowed to call itself a news organization. To me news implies relating facts instead of provoking and gaslighting. I hope Dominion wins in the courts.
I know this dates me I miss journalist list Walter Cronkite, Peter Jennings,, Barbara Walters, Tom Brokaw, Chris Wallace, Diane Swayer. This were true journalist who reported the news and did not just gives their opinions.
Just give me the news. I am not interested in want todays bobble heads “think” is the news. I do not want opinions. Just the facts. I will think about the facts and draw up my own opinions.
The Fox evening hosts have clearly shown that they are not journalists worthy of respect; they knowingly lied about Trump’s 2020 election claims. They did so in order not to alienate a large percentage of their audience who still want to believe that Trump was cheated out of a second term. Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, et al have forever destroyed their credibility among people who want credible news and opinion sources.
Would that this problem be limited to Fox, as alas it is not. In 2016 an MSBNC host said she was told in so many words not to criticize Hillary Clinton during her campaign for President, presumably because doing so would alientate MSNBC viewers (that I link to the conservative NY Post is irrelevant: many other sources have disclosed this same information).
Advertising revenues have plummeted for print and TV news outlets, mostly because of the Internet. The NY Times gets a large majority of its revenues these days from subscriptions, not from advertising as in the pre-Internet days. A recent survey found that 91% of NY subscribers vote Democratic. From reading the NYT, it’s obvious that they tread carefully about most anything that will outrage their left-wing audience. Likewise for Fox, CNN, and almost all media outlets in 2023. Journalistic integrity has largely died in order to give audiences what they want to hear and read.
https://nypost.com/2023/02/13/krystal-ball-had-to-get-msnbc-bosss-permission-to-criticize-hillary-clinton/
In 2014, an MSNBC “expert” said ‘She sold out to Wall Street…”
Wait, so you are saying that there is no difference between bosses at a network being concerned about their on-air talent telling a blatant lie that a candidate had absolutely, positively, factually and definitely ‘sold out to Wall Street” in 2014, and bosses at a different network being concerned that their on-air talent were NOT telling a blatant lie about their candidate??
That’s not the same at all. If one of the MSNBC hosts had said “Bernie Sanders has sold out to radical Muslim terrorists”, that would also not be allowed. If one of the MSNBC hosts had said “It is an absolute fact that Trump peed on prostitutes and no one will vote for him”, that would not be allowed, either. At Fox News, there is no such restrictions, since it would be required that all on-air talent repeat the lie!
You just told us that MSNBC not wanting blatant lies to be told about candidate is just like Fox News not wanting the truth to be told about a candidate. That speaks for itself.
There was plenty of criticism of the democrat on MSNBC. But you object to MSNBC on-air talent being told they shouldn’t lie about them. And that – to you – is just like Fox News DEMANDING their on-air talent lie?
It is not. If anything, the so-called “liberal” media like the NYT holds Democrats to an impossibly high standard and uses any failure to meet those standards as a justification for attacking their character and motives. While the right wing media only criticizes Republicans who don’t agree with promoting the lies of the Republicans in power.
Roger Ailes built the FOX (fake) news empire of fear.
FOX is not news.
FOX is not entertainment.
Murdock’s FOX is a propaganda machine with two goals: to influence what the people think and do, and to make a lot of money.
Murdock’s FOX is built on GREED and LIES!
“Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. Is an ALEC Member”
“Yes, News Corp. is an ALEC member. It has funded ALEC operations.”
“Documents obtained and released by Common Cause show that News Corp. was a member of ALEC’s Telecommunications and Information Technology Task Force as of April 2010.”
https://www.prwatch.org/news/2012/05/11531/rupert-murdochs-news-corp-alec-member
Fox’s own lawyers stated that Carlson was not “stating actual facts” in his defense of the defamation suit a few years back. The judge in the case stated, “ Given Mr. Carlson’s reputation, any reasonable viewer ‘arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism’ …”. Unfortunately, his audience isn’t reasonable
Sidney Powell’s defense was that no reasonable person would believe what she said
Beyond the insane irony of that defense she was given a reprieve from disbarment by a Republican judge in Texas because some of the exhibits were out of order.
Trump called Fox and brazenly manipulated their audience to get them on board with the insurrection. Fox not only complied but collaborated with lawyers who were working with Trump. I believe the legal term here is conspiracy. I can only hope the special counsel finds evidence to indict Dobbs et Al.
I would submit to everyone out there to never use the term Fox News. Either put the word “News” in quotes when it’s written, or say or write, “Fox not News”, or anything to delegitimize it from being called “news”, which it is not. It’s one of the worst things to ever happen to this country.