William S. Becker is an expert in energy and climate science issues. He has been struck recently by the loose talk about a “civil war,” inspired by Trump’s cult followers.
There was a time when Americans had values. It seems those values have disappeared, and many things that used to be unacceptable, even unthinkable, became common.
When did it become acceptable to lie? Or to spread fake conspiracies? Or to govern with fear rather than ideas? When did it become okay to deny and reject what the majority of Americans decide? Is it now socially acceptable to send death threats to people with whom we disagree? Is it responsible for a sitting United States congresswoman to make outrageously false statements like “Democrats want Republicans dead, and they have already started the killings,” as Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) recently did. However, all the automatic weapons and body armor that are now de rigueur under the GOP tent indicate the shoe is likely on the other foot.
When did we decide a president, current or former, is above the law — actually, above many laws in the case of Donald Trump — and law enforcement agents should be targeted for investigating? Where does free speech stop, and domestic terrorism begin? Don’t vile threats against individual Americans and their families cross the line?
When did it become acceptable for militants to lock, load and try to incite civil war in America? The New York Times, quoting data from media-tracking services, reports that mentions of civil war are no longer confined to radical groups. The threats have become common on social media. They jumped 3,000 percent in the hours after the FBI confiscated documents from Trump’s Mar-a-Largo home.
With no apparent regret about the 2021 insurrection, Trump predicts that if he’s indicted, “you’d have problems in this country the likes of which perhaps we’ve never seen.” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) was more explicit, predicting “riots in the street.” These high-level provocateurs hide behind the First Amendment, but social media traffic shows that militant groups and individuals have received the actual message. Others get the message, too. As the New York Times notes, a survey in August found that 54 percent of “strong Republicans” believe a civil war of some kind is at least somewhat likely in the next decade.

What does “our country” mean, when a tiny minority — just 5 members of the Supreme Court– can determine how the majority have to live?
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“Our country: Just us”
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Our Country
The US
Is small
It’s Just us
That’s all
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Better title
“With liberty and Just us for All”
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Good question. This is not what the Founders wanted. They opposed any Established religion. We now have one: a blend of conservative Catholicism and evangelical Christian.
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I’m an agnostic with no ties to any religious group, and I favor strict separation of church and state. But we have an established religion now? Let’s see: same sex marriage is legal in all fifty states, abortion will still be legal in the majority of states, no one is forced to believe any particular religious doctrine, and much more. It’s best to keep a grip on reality and avoid ideologically-based absurdities.
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When the Supreme Court rules that Maine must pay tuition at two religious schools, what’s the outlook for separation of church and state? When the Suprene Court rules that it’s okay to discriminate against gays if your religion says so, where’s the separation of church and state? When the Supreme Court overturns Roe v Wade, it may have something to do with the religious origins of the justices.
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Diane
Thank you for the correct terminology, “conservative Catholicism and. evangelical Christian.” The battle for democracy has no chance of winning as long as the ruse continues that Liberty University and Jerry Falwell types are the only operators on the religious right and that Charles Koch has no connections to the religious agenda of wealthy Catholic conservatives and the state Catholic Conferences..
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I know.
I have gone down the rabbit hole (again).
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The New Pledge of Allegiance
I pledge allegiance
To the Court
Of the Religious Minority of America
And to the Religion, for which it stands
One Nation, under Christ
With Trinity and Just us, for all
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When did it become acceptable…?
When people who know better, truly know better in their internal beliefs, their religious beliefs, and heritage say nothing. When they refuse to speak up, call out, seek evidence, confront, and refute – THAT is when it became acceptable.
The elected officials on both sides and at all levels are silent.
Candidates are allowed to dance around and avoid answering questions.
Justices are beholden to their appointers rather than their oaths.
There is no outrage by the media or public.
That’s when.
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It became acceptable when the so-called liberal media decided it would be too “biased” not to present the lies of Republicans as having equal weight with the Republicans.
The reporters at the NYT who get the most attention and whose careers benefit are those with the most access, and thus their Republican sources must be presented as highly respectable regardless of whether what they say happens to be true. The reporters at the NYT don’t know how to practice real journalism — they practice access journalism.
So they will happily report that some respected Republican says Democrat “A” will murder all white people (with a disclaimer that a rabidly partisan Democrat disagrees). And the right wing news media will report that some respected Republican says Democrat “A” is a murderer, period.
And then those access journalists at so-called liberal media institutions profess to be completely ignorant of why so many voters believe the lies of the Republicans. It is because they are complicit.
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^^^typo in first paragraph:
“It became acceptable when the so-called liberal media decided it would be too “biased” not to present the lies of Republicans as having equal weight with the truths of the Democrats.”
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NYC public school parent
Actual Liberals call the NYT, WaPo, CNN and MSNBC the corporate media . That is the typo you had to correct . .
“Trump thinks”
“The FBI had documents proving a Russia Hoax ”
He does? Perhaps he wanted the copy of piss tape.
Or could it be Trump knows that there are no documents that assert that he is innocent but wants to distract.
But Maggie and Peter have special powers they read minds.
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Funny how Maggie and Peter always “know” that the minds of Republicans are always innocent, which contrasts mightily with how the reporters at the NYT always “know” that the minds of Democrats are guilty.
Actions no longer matter. Trump could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and Maggie and Peter would write dozens of articles about how Trump “thought” he was acting heroically.
Then Peter and Maggie would point with pride at how they are so brave to write those articles because some far right Fox News pundit who knows exactly how to play the useful idiots in the media called their articles too “biased” against Trump. Peter and Maggie would preen about how their articles about how Trump thought he was acting heroically by shooting someone on Fifth Avenue demonstrates their “independence.”
A Democrat could do absolutely nothing wrong, and the NYT reporters would write dozens of stories about how the evidence is overwhelming that the Democrat committed a horrible crime because that Democrat once wrote something critical of a Republican who spewed a racist epithet at a child, so that means that he needs to be prosecuted because when he told the truth under oath, it was actually an illegal attempt to “get” the person who spewed a racist epithet at a child.
It would be funny to read NYT reporters twisting themselves in knots to act as sycophants to the right wing while they preen with pride and brag non-stop about how fair and balanced they are because some far right pundit plays them for fools by saying that their article listing the reasons why Trump thought he was doing a good thing when he broke the law was “anti-Trump”. What a dangerous and complicit bunch of folks in the media who are hastening along the end of the democracy.
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I figure you might like this
https://cepr.net/retailers-slashing-prices-more-bad-news-for-biden/
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Joel,
It’s so much more subtle and dangerous.
Today the NYT is running huge profiles of Leonard Leo that totally NORMALIZE what he is doing. Nothing to see here, folks. Just a caring guy with a lot of money who just wants smaller government and religious freedom. What’s wrong with him trying to share his ideas with others, just like those libs have been doing? Sure you might not disagree with all of his views, but they are all respectable views that some “good people” like.
Not an iota of outrage or anything else for us to worry our little heads about.
If Hitler was reincarnated today and had a lot of money, the NYT’s access journalists would write fawning profiles about how this guy Hitler is using his money to promote patriotism and some conservative ideas, and some old Jewish folks just don’t like it and their opinions are worth mentioning too (because the NYT access journalists are always “fair and balanced”).
Linda, you were the Cassandra of this blog many years ago. Thanks for trying. Sorry the so-called liberal media is so complicit in normalizing the very ABnormal far right agenda.
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NYC public school parent
This morning at 6AM on CNN they ran a quick story on Tulsi Gabbard leaving the Democratic Party. No mention of the Dog Whistles in her statement about an “Elite Global Cabal”, anti White racism. No mention of her being at CPAC with the other Fascists and neo Nazis.
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NYC
Since I am continuing the effort and, on occasion. succeed with a convert, I’ll try to have a different experience than Cassandra.
Thanks for recognizing what I work at. Thom Hartmann’s article at Raw Story is the most recent example of omission of conservative Catholic success in turning the country to the political right.
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Excellent article, Joel. I went to the WaPo article critiqued here, & was surprised commenters didn’t pick up on Baker’s angle. They were all, US is too materialistic, China goods are crap, etc.
Well, somewhat surprised. One thing I love about the NYT is the caliber of the commenters. They would have been on that in a second.
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Linda,
Thank you for continuing your important efforts.
Joel,
Today’s news is ENTIRELY about reporting news from the right wing narrative. “Inflation has Democrats reeling”. “Dems in trouble on inflation.”
Meanwhile, what is the Republicans’ plan for inflation? Cutting Social Security? Cutting money for healthcare? Republicans get the so-called media to report on inflation entirely as “It’s the Dems fault and people will vote for the Republicans because they are against inflation.”
The Republican plan for inflation is similar to the Republican plan to replace Obamacare. It exists as a document that would repel anyone but the richest voters, so the media is complicit in affirming that this Republican plan is a legitimate inflation-fighting plans whose details should never be mentioned.
The media helps legitimize that there is nothing newsworthy about Republicans not wanting to discuss their plans to fight inflation and as unbiased journalists their job is to inform that public that the Democrats are at fault for the economy and the Republicans have a plan to fix it that those very same journalists know the public doesn’t need to know the details of since the Republicans don’t want to talk about it.
I do wish Bernie Sanders would go around repeating non-stop: Ask your Republican legislature what their inflation fighting plan is because the Republican plan is to cut Social Security and Medicare and all the programs that you like, and keep the programs that direct more money into the hands of billionaires.
It is astonishing that the public doesn’t know that. They are always voting against Democrats for “not doing enough” while being completely oblivious to how the Republican plan would have far more negative impact on their lives.
How would Republicans fight inflation? If the media described two plans and asked the public which they wanted, they would vote for the Democrats’ plan by a huge majority. Lucky for the Republicans, the media is complicit in hiding all details of the Republican plans, but does offer legitimacy by repeating that the Republicans have a plan that is totally legitimate and the details aren’t newsworthy.
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NYC-
Influential media skew reporting to favor the GOP and it undermines democracy. Many of us are aware of the intent of the talking point about inflation. “What would the GOP do about inflation,” is the obvious question which media WON’T ask as you point out.
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NYC
It’s highly unlikely that an American man born in 1960’s who has a family of 11 (including he and his wife) is temperate in his religion
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Bethree5
I tolerate the Times only because of some of their opinion writers.
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NYC public school parent
It would seem the markets for today have discounted the CPI report as yesterdays news. Although markets are frequently wrong it was certainly better than the sell off the right was hoping for would have been .
A few moments of intelligent life came through on the CNBC panel at 8:30 this morning, when they acknowledged that these are supply issues not demand issues.That the stimulus is long gone.
Then the panel questioned what Fed hikes will do to increase supply. Rate hikes may be the only tool the Fed has but are they the right tool . The implied , but not said, flip side of this, Biden policy did not create a chip shortage is not driving Auto inflation. Nor did it cause a bird flu …..
Then this Politico piece which was actually fair .
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/13/inflation-over-fed-battle-00061405
“Why the Fed and Biden won’t proclaim ‘mission accomplished’ even as inflation eases ”
Contrast that to:
“Inflation Is Unrelenting, Bad News for the Fed and White House
Inflation rose quickly in September and a key measure accelerated to the fastest pace since 1982, underlining the persistence of price increases.”
Of course the BLS graph in the piece might lead one to ask why the headline wasn’t “Take a Chill Pill, Inflation at 8.2% and falling is nothing like it was in 74 or 80” When it was 12.2% and 14.4 %
But few will get passed the headline.
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NYC public school parent
past not passed .
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The scarry thing I see is that almost every point he makes in opposition to the democrats has a radical conservative response accusing the various democrats of the same thing. Predictions of violence? That’s what those democrats do, BLM, Antifa, …. Breaking laws without consequences? Biden and Obama, two crooked people …oh don’t talk to me about Hillary and Bill.
The only difference I see is that the conservative think tanks are fabricating all this crap while the republicans are committing all this crap. If I said that to the average joe around here they would laugh at me.
over a third of the population thinks we in the public schools are trying to indoctrinate children to be communist and queer (my own poll among those I know. No science here. No brains here. Beam me up). A substantial portion think that Sorous is leading a conspiracy.
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This is a conscious, deliberate tactic. As soon as you are accused of something, use the same words to accuse your opponent–the un-American evil libs. The goal is to make accurate descriptive language meaningless.
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Bingo, Greg. Somewhere among the top 3 goals in the wannabe populist autocrat’s handbook.
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In related news, MAGA voters attempted to stuff the ballot box with votes for Trump in the 2022 Fat Bear contest, but the National Park Service caught the scam and Bear 747 was pronounced the legitimate winner.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/747-named-winner-fat-bear-week-2nd-time/story?id=91386287
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Make that MAFA voters.
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Just in: Trump is contesting.
Insists that he actually won.
Says Bear 747 is a fake — Hillary Clinton in a bear suit.
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“Fat Bear Contest”
The NPS
Has stopped the steel
Illegal votes
A Trump appeal
A bear has won
Who’s really fat
Three quarter ton
Imagine that
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steal
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The U.S. would not have turned to the political right except for Charles Koch.
The majority in the American democracy are not the misidentified,”moral majority,” who demand predatory capitalism and anti-woman and anti-gay policy.
Using the Google search engine, type in – Catholic University of America Charles Koch – to understand the axis that is driving the U.S. toward patriarchal authoritarianism if not fascism.
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It would be easy for Randi Weingarten (AFT) and Betsy Pringle (NEA) to help to save the country. All they need to do is provide funding to state organizations for mailers to retired teachers identifying preferred candidates for the states’ boards of education.
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William S Becker is a Zealot. The things he calls facts are ONLY OPINION!!
Conservative want a small government, he proclaimed that all republicans are anti everything, that they want anarchy, WRONG! If you were to read history, ( which the liberals are trying to remove)
The Brits were trying to control the colonies (states) and came at night to take our/their guns.they marched on Lexington and Concord .and the MALITIA ,not the police or the army stopped them ant the outcome was a new country.
Today , the liberals are trying to take our guns, change how history is taught, I know for a fact that what kids are being taught, they cannot do basic SIMPLE MATH!.
The phobias that William S Becker is saying republicans are infected with, anti gay ,anti Hispanic, anti Arab etc etc . Are just a crazy man yelling. He says the republicans are out to kill democracy, what about the Lise that are being told by Adam Schiff, the weaponizing of the FBI, and Dept of Justice, going after parents as terrorists!!?? Or Hillary , her past in Whitewater scandal is completely hidden from the public, All the press except 1or 2 are exposing Hunter Bidens criminal record. He’s nothing more than a drug addict. No morals, taught to him by his father,
Now about him , the head liberal democrat!
He lets in millions of people with out vetting . He’s breaking the law and the constitution! He has violated orders to stop , by a federal judge, twice!! Now that judge is ready to hit him with contempt. He has violated The constitution !
There are laws spelled out , without ambiguity about how to address immigration and open borders is not ,IS NOT allowed in the constitution or bill of rights. Again he has violated the constitution, Biden is the death of DEMOCRACY, not the republicans .!
He’s kissing chinas ass giving them advantage on all trade and giving away our industrial base and technological development … and allowing the CCP to buy land adjacent to our military bases!! That is the same as when Benedict Arnold gave away WEST POINT TO THE BRITISH !
This administration and the Obama Administration are one in the same. Obama is smarter. He let Biden get the blame.
Obama said “ He was going to change the FUNDAMENTALS OF THE NATION”. and he started it and is giving Biden the method to continue it..God help us. The Republicans will be in the White House next two elections, Ann it will take that long to fix things. And if they control the house and senat too, they can change the constitution to make it impossible for the democrats to do what they’re trying to do now.
History will repeat itself
LL
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