Now here is a surprise: Paul Petersen, editor of the conservative journal Education Next and leader of Harvard’s Program on Education Policy and Governance, published an article with his postdoctoral student M. Danish Shakeel demonstrating the steady and impressive progress of American public schools over the past half century.
They write:
Contrary to what you may have heard, average student achievement has been increasing for half a century. Across 7 million tests taken by U.S. students born between 1954 and 2007, math scores have grown by 95 percent of a standard deviation, or nearly four years’ worth of learning. Reading scores have grown by 20 percent of a standard deviation per decade during that time, nearly one year’s worth of learning.
When we examine differences by student race, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, longstanding assumptions about educational inequality start to falter. Black, Hispanic, and Asian students are improving far more quickly than their white classmates in elementary, middle, and high school. In elementary school, for example, reading scores for white students have grown by 9 percent of a standard deviation each decade, compared to 28 percent for Asian students, 19 percent for Black students, and 13 percent for Hispanic students. Students from low socioeconomic backgrounds also are progressing more quickly than their more advantaged peers in elementary and middle school. And for the most part, growth rates have remained steady throughout the past five decades.
Conventional wisdom downplays student progress and laments increasing achievement gaps between the have and have-nots. But as of 2017, steady growth was evident in reading and especially in math. While the seismic disruptions to young people’s development and education due to the Covid-19 pandemic have placed schools and communities in distress, the successes of the past may give educators confidence that today’s challenges can be overcome.
This article contradicts the foundation of the rightwing-conservative narrative that “our schools are failing,” which is the rationale for school choice and harsh treatment of teachers.
As Petersen and Shakeel show, the conventional wisdom among the “blow up public education” sect is wrong. Public schools are not failing. They are succeeding.
I made the same argument in my book Reign of Error. I showed that test scores and graduation rates for all groups are at an all-time high.
But more importantly, Paul Petersen made the same assertions in 1983, when he was the staff director for a Twentieth Century Fund commission on education. I was a member of the commission, as was Albert Shanker of the AFT, Dean Patricia A. Graham of the Harvard Graduate School of Education, and other luminaries.
The commission issued a report called “Making the Grade,” which lamented the woeful state of the schools. But our staff director Paul Petersen insisted that the commission was wrong in its dire conclusion and wrote a separate statement, expressing his dissent, in which he defended the schools.
I have served on many commissions and task forces but that was the only time that the staff director dissented from the group for whom he worked.
Paul Petersen was right in 1983.
He is right now.
Our public schools are not failing.
They have been a great success.
The attacks on them by Christian nationalists, billionaires, Catholic champions of vouchers, racists, extremists, and zealots for school choice is completely unjustified.
Their attack on the schools is an attack on our democracy.
It should end now.
Am linking to this post on my blog. People, we gotta spread this news far and wide!
Yes! The “failing schools narrative” is a hoax.
“Contrary to what you may have heard, average student achievement has been increasing for half a century. Across 7 million tests taken by U.S. students born between 1954 and 2007, math scores have grown by 95 percent of a standard deviation, or nearly four years’ worth of learning. Reading scores have grown by 20 percent of a standard deviation per decade during that time, nearly one year’s worth of learning.
Okay to continue my thought:
How much BS can be packed into one paragraph?
Exactly. So now it’s okay to “measure” (sic) student achievement and growth by test scores?
Do you not believe this, Mr. Swacker? Or is the compression of these stats into one paragraph kind of too much for any one person to keep track of in one paragraph? If that’s the latter, I can empathize because it’s like, “dude, wait, back up a sec. One stat and it’s own story at a time, please.”
Well considering that the various concepts involved lack onto-epistemological (foundational conceptual) validity. I mean, really, “years of learning”, whatever the hell that means or standard deviations on a process, standardized testing, that is specious and “vain and illusory” as Wilson put it, one can only conclude that using this study as a way of applauding American public education leaves a lot to be desired, in other words, is mental masturbation at its finest. I hope all enjoy this little foray into mental masturbation.
Duane, you have convincingly demonstrated the fallaciousnrss of test scores to regular readers of this blog. But the American public and 99%-100% of elected officials believe in the importance of test scores.
We can simultaneously make the case that test scores are an inadequate measure of student learning and indicate that even by those flawed measures, American education is not failing. Of course, none of that justifies the persistent failure establish an equitable, democratically governed school system.
Sad, eh about the percent who don’t know. But I’d contend that more folks understand that invalidity than we realize. Almost everyone, whether from the right, left or anywhere on the political spectrum, I talk with understands the absurdities. What I hear is “But we have to be able to compare what is going on. We have to measure the differences.” Says who?
Why have Americans been so brainwashed, acculturated, indoctrinated into believing such tripe? Perhaps belief in such pseudo science has it’s basis in having been brought up to “faith believe” absurdities all their life. What’s another false faith belief when one already has so many in their heads?
Not every reader of this blog agrees that Duane has convincingly shown the fallaciosness of standardized test scores, and I suspect even fewer have been persuaded that teacher written tests and teacher assigned grades are fallacious as Duane believes he has shown.
I think you are overstating the case when it comes to teacher made assessments although that really depends on the teacher. My assessments were made only to inform my instruction and my students understanding, and I would guess Duane’s were too. The scores would have been pretty useless to anyone else. They only meant something to me because I had a chance to look at their responses to each item, which is far more informative.
TE,
I can’t control what people believe, nor can I force them to honestly confront the contradictions and invalidities we’ve shown that render using those standardized test results “vain and illusory” as Wilson puts it or as I say pure bullshit. Willfully being blind is not a wise course of being.
You’ve never rebutted or refuted what Hoffman, Wilson, myself and many others have proven in regards to that invalidity of the process. Where does that leave you, intellectually speaking?
And you have me wrong about “teacher written tests and teacher assigned grades are fallacious as Duane believes he has shown.” I’ve never said anything like that and actually do claim that a teacher made assessment that is specifically tied to the classroom curriculum being taught is the only ethical, logical and valid means of helping students in the teaching and learning process. Any assessment must have the primary goal of helping the students learn the subject matter. Any other reason is unethical and invalid.
Assessments are only useful with respect to the legitimacy of their purposes. Overall, claims notwithstanding, NCLB driven assessments were designed to shame, blame, and undermine public education and unions. For those with that goal, they have been quite successful, while providing little learning benefit. Some classroom assessments are designed to rank students, while others are designed to inform students and teachers in order to improve learning. Even for the latter, some are more effectively designed to reveal information what students understand and possible gaps. Even well-designed classroom-level assessment meant to guide learning are only useful if students use the results to guild their own learning.
“Even well-designed classroom-level assessment meant to guide learning are only useful if students use the results to guild their own learning.”
One of my children had a English teacher who did not put a grade on most written assignments. In order to get the grade the student had to make an appointment with the teacher to discuss the paper. It worked with my child and it successfully took the focus off the grade. He actually enjoyed those conferences. There were still students who chose to take their chances based on the comments on the paper, but even they had to at least read the comments. “You can lead a horse to water…”
Any “classroom classroom assessments [that] are designed to rank students” is an unethical and invalid exercise in mental masturbation.
You are correct bringing up “useful with respect to the legitimacy of their purpose. Ranking students in K-12 is not a legitimate purpose.
“Even well-designed classroom-level assessment meant to guide learning are only useful if students use the results to guild their own learning.” And that is up to the teacher to insure that using the results for students to guide, learn more about themselves in the teaching and learning process.
Sadly, far too many, the vast majority of teachers have bought into all of those other supposed purposes, actually they-those other purposes, should be considered a hindrance or distraction to a valid teaching and learning process.
Duane, I will go back to my position as a retired special ed teacher. Taken alone test scores are not terribly useful although they do show consistent patterns that can point to further examination. If they had no usefulness, they would show no definable pattern. If all my students who had trouble with short term memory test items did not demonstrate pretty consistently that they had issues in this area, I would stop paying any attention to tests. Miraculously, though, the deficits that are indicated by testing frequently are easily identifiable in their every day lives. Look at what the tests do hint at…socio-economic status matters, for one thing. Within groups, some students in the classroom are quicker to grasp concepts than others. What we do with this information is important. The data referenced perhaps point to the fact that more children are gaining a level of literacy not available in the past educational system. I totally agree with you that we are not measuring anything in the strictest sense, but perhaps we need to pay more attention on what information we can gain.
Diagnostic standardized tests are one thing, invalid student standardized testing, which is by no means designed to be diagnostic, is another. The latter is an unwarranted usage of the students to gain “data” and has no benefit for the students since they are not allowed to see the results of the test, which ones they got correct/wrong, etc. . . .
“To take advantage of a child’s naivete. . . in order to extract from them something [test scores, personal information] that is contrary to their interests, or intentions, without their knowledge [or consent of parents] or through coercion [state mandated testing], is always and everywhere unjust even if in some places and under certain circumstances it is not illegal. . . . Justice is superior to and more valuable than well-being or efficiency; it cannot be sacrificed to them, not even for the happiness of the greatest number [quoting Rawls]. To what could justice legitimately be sacrificed, since without justice there would be no legitimacy or illegitimacy? And in the name of what, since without justice even humanity, happiness and love could have no absolute value?. . . Without justice, values would be nothing more than (self) interests or motives; they would cease to be values or would become values without worth.”—Comte-Sponville [my additions]
Totally agree with aversion to using testing for bogus high stakes decisions. However, special educators use many standardized tests for evaluation/case study purposes, which may also be used for inappropriate purposes. The latest generation of “standardized tests (common core?) have no use as far as I am concerned. I have no idea if anyone is trying to use them for diagnostic purposes, which I find blasphemous. I don’t know how to quite refine the difference in use between those tests that have long been part of the diagnostic arsenal and those that serve no useful educational purpose. In one sense they are all invalid because we really have no idea what we are “measuring.” All I know is we can glean an imperfect view of some behavior which we have decided is an indicator of “intelligence” of one kind or another.
This is awesome! I also will be linking this to my G-Classroom site for my students and their parents to read.
Secretary Cardona was on Sunday morning talk shows this week talking about the need to respect and applaud public schools and teachers, not support TFA and other un-training exercises like putting first responders in classrooms. A shift underfoot? One certainly hopes so.
That’s the first I’ve heard Cardona criticizing one of the reform sacred cows.
NBC introduced the segment with the tired poll that says everyone hates public schools (while we know everyone likes their own local neighborhood public school). Then the corporate interviewer type guy said there is a teacher shortage, and suggested that teachers should be given college loan forgiveness if they commit to a few weeks of training and a few years in the classroom. My jaw pleasantly dropped when Sec Cardona replied that no, we need to start showing public respect for teachers instead.
Thank you for posting this important article, Diane.
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Whatever one may think about the correlation of standardized tests scores to learning, it is quite amazing to have a meta-study that teases out and realigns different types of long-running tests so that we’re comparing apples to apples. Meanwhile, it’s politically useful to have accurate analysis of test scores with which to fight the “public schools are failing” crowd [Reps/ conservatives], since that is their choice of weapon.
I would like to see this study used equally as a cudgel over the head of the “must have annual stdzd tests to prove growing inequality gap cuz we just gotta buy [___fill in deep-pocket-donors’ latest product]. That’s a Dems/ neoliberals thing.
Ginny,
Thank you for your common sense explanation! The anti-public school crowd uses test scores to scream “failure” and it’s wonderful to have one of their own refute their claims.
If the stats suggest something we like, and we give them weight, are we not bound to give weight to the opposition argument? This reduces the argument to a purely statistical one, when there are other ways to look at the issues.
I would never criticize Reign of Error, or other attempts to make this argument, but I am more comfortable suggesting that schools are better because it is my perception.
Cherry picking is never a good strategy over the long term because lots of people recognize it for what it is and will come to dismiss everything one says as a result.
Thanks for the link and follow-up commentary. There appears to be a rising tide of astute conservatives who recognize the danger of billionaires out to destroy the nation’s advancements.
The staff and funders of Fordham are not among them.
Fordham staff are deeply embedded in Education Next and Hoover. Will they listen to this refutation of their views?
Conservatives who are at least astute enough to recognize that their lies have become obvious to everyone and that if they don’t “evolve” those claims into something more believable, no one will ever listen to them again.
What has changed are not the facts, but the ability to plausibly deny reality.
These folks will smoothly slide into a new BS position that they will provide go support until that also becomes completely untenable.
The pattern is completely predictable.
All of this is great news, and there is a lot of data to support their findings. The issue is that Dr. Peterson and Dr. Shakeel are not talking about public schools. They never mention public schools outside of a passing reference to “A Nation at Risk.” They discuss that non-school factors are likely contributing to these improvements. They also cite the potential benefits of school reform, including school choice as contributing factors. This article is not lauding the praise of public schools at all. While they do not make this claim, it could be argued that school reforms and increased access to and use of non-public schools contribute to this increase just as easily as it is to claim this is a defense of traditional public schools.
Since non-public schools (charters and vouchers) generally have the same or lower scores than public schools, and are a tiny segment of all schools, it would be hard to credit them for the steady and significant gains.
After 30 years of charters, they enroll about 7% of students. As you go back in time, the proportion was smaller.
The voucher percentage is maybe 2-3%.
the percentages are indeed low but that is misleading. they are not a ailable everywhere. where they are available there often wait lists and selection is by lottery. the demand outweighs supply. in addition about 10 percent attend private schools.
Many charter schools have vacant seats. In Los Angeles, more than 80% have empty seats.
The “waiting lists” are a marketing ploy. They are never audited. They list kids who were already accepted in a charter, kids who applied to multiple charters and are listed multiple times, kids who decided to go to public schools…etc.
“In addition, school reforms—desegregation, accountability measures, more equitable financing, improved services for students learning English, and school choice—have had their greatest impact on more recent cohorts of students.” The kitchen sink of “possibilities” for reasons for improvement. Without getting into the statistical weeds, there is nothing in the report that shows any statistical proof regarding school choice, which in fact, has been shown to accelerate segregation. The authors just had to throw it in there as a “possibility”; they couldn’t help themselves. Gotta keep the EdNext editors happy.
I completely agree with you. My only point is that it is disingenuous at best to argue this article, along with the research article this is based on titled “A Half Century of Progress in US Student Achievement: Agency and Flynn Effects, Ethnic and SES Differences” published in March of 2022 in Educational Psychology Review claims public schools are doing a better job and they alone are leading to better outcomes.
Given the ideology of the main author (hyper-pro-choice), I can understand why he might have some reluctance to credit the improvement to public schools.
But it’s impossible to find evidence that American education got better over 50 years due to school choice. The latter may have actually been a drag on improvement.
Michael
Are you really calling other people disingenuous?
I call a person who enables ed reformers in taking community assets- a thief and a traitor to the USA.
A new book about philanthropy, described as “the most complete and uncompromising view” on the subject, cites the following, “many if not most acts of philanthropy are usurpations of public authority.”
Paul Petersen is the editor of EdNext. EdNext is funded by Hoover.
well said
The attack on public schools was never about achievement. Rather, it’s about anti-tax, anti-union, pro-privatization ideology.
Of course. But the scores were the foundation of the privatization claims. If public schools are doing better than ever, why fund alternatives?
Yes, of course!
Woohoo! I had a feeling the tides were turning when I saw the latest campaign from NAPCS had zero mention of test scores or anything academic to justify their existence. It seems the only data they have to brag about now is attendance. Funny how those value-added assessments work, isn’t it?
And an even bigger cheer for the arrest this morning of that heinous former TN House Speaker who bribed legislators into voting yes for vouchers, Glen Casada!! 🎉
Whoa! That’s great news!!
I would like to add that the level of underhanded chicanery of the Lee administration that led to Casada’s being indicted has done almost nothing to erode support of Tennessee republicans. After manipulation that led to employment of Hillsdale College to establish 100 charters state wide, there appears no general public will to kick out the privitizers
Widespread corruption. Who cares?
NAPCS?
National Association of Penny Counters Society???
For those of us self-diagnosed with AIIDS* please explain what that acronym means. Thanks
*AIIDS = Acronym Identification Impairment Disorder Syndrome. . . to be included in the DSM-X
This shouldn’t come as any surprise.
First, the steady average increase in test scores has been known from IQ tests for a long, long time. In general, average IQ scores increase about 3 percent per decade, so that from time to time, the tests have to be renormed to reflect the shifting median score. Over time, the increase in the average score is such that the average person who took an IQ test decades ago would be adjudged severely cognitively challenged on the basis of his or her score on a current-generation IQ test. (I often think of this when watching old movies; the people depicted in old films often seem pretty dumb and pretty naïve (“Oh Gosh and Golly, Gee Whillikers, Mr. Smith!”); well, they seem that way because they were. LOL.) And the person adjudged to be of average intelligence by one of these tests today would test at a genius level on an IQ test from the 1940s or 50s. This steady increase in IQ scores is called The Flynn Effect. A lot of folks think that it’s due to a) better average nutrition, and b) more stimulation from exposure to more novel situations.
Second, these are aggregate scores. They are more meaningful in Math than in ELA, where the “standards” supposedly tested are so vague, and they aren’t fine-grained enough in ELA to provide much useful information. I often joke that ANY test would substitute for the ELA tests, one on, say, dirigible driving or gerbil husbandry, as crude sorters. Yes, one might say that generally there appears to be some improvement over the long haul, but one can’t say much more than that. Back when the standards and testing movement first took off, there was, initially, a fairly substantial increase in scores, but then the scores pretty much went flat, with barely any increase. Why? Well, the Ed Deform movement made the test scores all-important. People started having kids do practice tests, and they became more familiar with question and test formats, and this initially improved their scores on average. And after that, not much. Basically, the “reform” of spending billions teach year on federally mandated testing had next to zero effect. It was an utter failure.
OK. I wrote this before reading the article. I see that the authors have made the same point that I just made–that the observed improvements correspond to those seen in studies of the Flynn Effect.
I thought the Flynn effect was sending the FBI on wild goose chases based on false statements.
It never ceases to amaze me that so many politicians, education pundits and officials, think tank “thought leaders,” blah, blah, blah, just naively assume that these federally mandated state tests validly measure what they purport to measure. They sort of do in math (though the pre-CC$$ tests arguably were quite a bit more valid), but they don’t at all in ELA. Here are some of the reasons why:
So, no, our public schools never were failures as demonstrated by standardized tests because the tests never demonstrated any such thing, and yes, they could be improved, but not by dumbing down our curricula and pedagogy to turn it into continual prep for invalid tests.
I agree. Standardized testing is a bogus justification used by one side to tout improvements, especially in certain groups, and by the other side to show how awful American education is. Their validity is dubious and lack any generalizability. American public schools score among the lowest of industrialized nations on such tests, yet the US has historically led the world in innovation, and our universities are among the best in the world. As was demonstrated in Atlanta and several other cities in the early 2000’s a focus on testing can also lead to corruption and fraud.
For decades, states played this game where they changed their cut scores from year to year based on whatever outcomes the state department of ed wanted to see. If they were trying to tout implementing some new magic elixir, they would set high cut scores so that there would be a lot of consternation in the news about failing schools. If they were trying to show how successful they had been, they would set low cut scores so as to show improvement. I once charted the New York ELA and math scores over several decades. They jumped around like gerbils on methamphetamines. In some years, the math cut score for proficiency was BARELY above what one would expect to get by CHOOSING THE ANSWERS RANDOMLY. LOL.
There is also a LOT of confusion among journalists, in particular, about what, exactly, a “standardized” test is. Technically, a standardized test is one in which raw scores have been standardized by converting them into z-scores (ones that express the score in terms of standard deviations from the mean) or t-scores (ones in which negative values for z-scores are eliminated by multiplying the z-score by a standard deviation of 10 and adding a mean of 50). For IQ tests, typically, the mean is set at 100 and the standard deviation at 15. For the Math SAT, the mean is 500 and the standard deviation is 100. These are norm-referenced tests (used to compare students and groups to students to one another).
The state tests are not standardized tests in that sense. They are criterion-referenced rather than norm-referenced tests. They supposedly measure absolute achievement of some goal expressed by a standard, and they are “standardized” only in the sense that various versions of a given test are prepared using similar and supposedly rigorous procedures. So, when people speak of these state tests as standardized tests, they are playing fast-and-loose with the language. So, I could prepare a criterion-reference test to determine whether you know your times table from 1 x 1 to 12 x 12. You either do or do not know that 7 x 9 = 63. Now, a problem occurs when the standard that is being, supposedly, measured by the test is extremely vague or broad (e.g., “the student will understand the multiple meanings of words”). There is no way that one or two items on a test can VALIDLY measure a standard that vague, that broad. So, the tests are ipso facto invalid. They don’t actually measure what they purport to measure.
And that this wasn’t OBVIOUS to educators around the country from the very beginning of the Ed Deform “standards and accountability” movement is shocking. The Deformers should have been laughed off the national stage on Day 1 due to the OBVIOUS invalidity of the ELA exams, which could not possibly measure, validly, standards that vague and broad AND that also have the problem that they are almost entirely content-free. In other words, they leave out much of what by any rational analysis, constitutes attainment in the subject (e.g., knowing who Mary Shelley and George Orwell were and what were the major themes of their major works).
To get a z-score (that is, to express the raw score in terms of its number of standard deviations from the mean), first compute the mean and the standard deviation. Then, subtract the mean from the raw score and divide the result by the standard deviation.
Aa problem occurs when the standard that is being, supposedly, measured by the test is extremely vague or broad (e.g., “the student will understand the multiple meanings of words”). There is no way that one or two items on a test can VALIDLY measure a standard that vague, that broad. So, the tests are ipso facto invalid. They don’t actually measure what they purport to measure.”
Interestingly, that is precisely the problem with most Supreme Court rulings as well. They are supposedly the “answers” to Constitutional questions that are so illdefined (based on highly imprecise Constitutional clauses) that they can not possibly yield to a single answer, which is why the answers often swing from one extreme to the other.
Following is from Dobbs Footnote 48, Precedent, and why the Supreme Court is not a Court
By Eric Segall
http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2022/08/dobbs-footnote-48-precedent-and-why.html?m=1
“An institution that is not bound by text or precedent is not a court of law. Even worse, an institution that is not bound by text or precedent and is staffed by officials with life tenure and virtually unreviewable power is a terrible idea for a representative constitutional democracy. No other political institution in the history of the free world exercises authority the way our Supreme Court does. Far from being exceptional, such an institution poses serious dangers to self-government and the rule of law. It is well-past time we take serious measures to reduce that threat. How to do so is a subject for a different day.”
I think the “failing public schools hoax” was generated by the Koch brothers back in the 1960s or 1970s through their ALEC Kochtopus political, misinformation, manipulation machine to destroy the US Constitution and turn the US into an autocratic libertarian-theofascist dystopian dictatorship where the wealthiest 1% have all the freedom, benefits, and all the power while everyone else is held down, under their brutal police army’s crushing, crucifying boot heals.
Fred Koch learned about profiteering in Stalin-type systems. Assumably, he passed the lessons down to his sons.
Thanks for posting this, Diane!!! It’s extremely important for people in general to understand what you have been trying to teach them for so many years, that the Ed Deformers were wrong from the start, that our schools weren’t “failing.” The other part of the equation is Richard Rothstein’s documentation of the fact that the relatively poor performance on U.S. students on the international tests is more than accounted for by the relative socioeconomic diversity of the U.S. student population taking those tests. More poor kids taking the tests = lower average scores.
So, the Deformers started with the false premise that U.S. schools had failed/were failing. Then, they implemented a program of reforms that were utterly stupid–those invalid tests, the puerile Gates/Coleman “standards,” charters, vouchers, deperesonalized computerized instruction, third-grade retention, VAM and school grades based on those tests. Nasty stuff that simply perpetuated inequities and diverted trillions of dollars that could have been used for important things like eyeglasses and warm coats for poor kids, classroom libraries, school librarians, smaller class sizes, and so on.
Here’s a challenge for you: come up with ONE multiple-choice question of less that 100 words (including the answers) that will tell you whether a person can, IN GENERAL,
a. make accurate inferences from texts IN GENERAL
or
b. demonstrate familiarity with fundamental documents of American history IN GENERAL
or
c. understand figurative language (all the major varieties of figurative language, lol, of whatever level of complexity or sophistication in any sort of writing from any era
or
d. demonstrate understanding of the major means of characterization in fiction
and so on.
Obviously, the format (the one MC question) isn’t up to the task, which is much, much too broad. So, that question is not going to be a valid measure of proficiency or mastery with regard to the “standard.”
OBVIOUSLY. FREAKING OBVIOUSLY. DUH.
Exactly right, Bob.
All the failed “reforms” and disruptions of the past 22 years, starting with NCLB, were based on the fraudulent claim that “our schools are failing.” The cure in 2001-02 was “the Texas Miracle,” which was non-existent. I tried in my books—Death and Life of the Great Anerican School System, Reign of Error, and Slaying Goliath,” to show that all of these “reforms” were based on lies and had demoralized students and teachers and killed the joy of learning by tying everything to tests. The entire “school choice” movement was based on this lie.
You nailed Ed Deform in these books, Diane. Again and again, in enormous detail, you nailed it, explaining, in each case, incredibly clearly, what the lies were, demonstrating that they were lies and why the reforms didn’t work. If only more of our decision-makers read them! If only more of our decision-makers read, period. Thank you, Diane, from the bottom of my heart, for your service to kids and teachers in this breathtaking body of work!!!!
Well, I’d say public schools have gotten better at transferring larger amounts of information to some of their population. They seem far worse at helping those who need education the most. They seem far worse at providing a kind, generous, friendly and safe environment for which kids can do and be their best. The entire system still picots on a few great people going into education who are far above the minimum USA standards. But, like cops and firemen, the majority of people who go into Education are there becasue it’s the degree with the lowest standards and one of the few careers left with a pension in many places. It killed me to do it but both of my kids are in charter schools. I hate admitting it but they are far happier and doing much better than in public schools. Everything wrong with Sopciet era bueracracies is present in public school systems in the USA.
Pat,
Sad to hear you feel that way about a system that enrolls 50 million students. There are fantastic public schools, great ones, good ones, adequate ones, and some that are in desperate need of improvement.
Among charters, there is also a wide range, but on average not as good as public schools. Charters have a high rate of closure. Some don’t last out a yeAr. 40% close by year 10. Most have uncertified teachers or rely on inexperienced newbies who are giving teaching a try for a couple of years. Some are operated by grifters.
Good luck.
Thanks!
IMO, it’s the same as our healthcare for sale culture. We have to become our own advocates. We must work and reject doctors until we find the best for us. That is what we have done for our kids in education. I wish there were better choices in public schools for us. I really do. And I tell people our kids are in charter schools with a bit of shame. But there are great charter schools when I look at the entirety of the school experience. Test schools matter very little to me. I want my kids in a place they feel safe and cared for with adults present all the time and better processes at work onsite, like project-based learning. The heartbreak with the charters I know a bit about here is seeing these teachers working very hard but without long-term benefits for all their sacrifices. I think there’s no reason this success cannot be repeated at our local public schools. And then I go to our schools to donate supplies or time or expertise, and I see the people in charge. It’s a toxic environment for people managing schools. And I speak with teachers who don’t really understand Education. One of my kids had a substitute for an entire year who did nothing but play YouTube videos as the curriculum. Needless to say my daughter went from the #1 reader and runner in the school to hating school and falling far behind. The next year had a similar story. So off to a magnet school, she went. Teachers were so busy helping the kids who were the high performers that the schools depend on for their reputation that my kid was just ignored. I felt I couldn’t let another year be wasted. She’s in a project-based charter now and doing very well. Class sizes are small and it’s very personal. She really feels the teachers have the time to show they care.
Thanks for your amazing work here. I’ve had years now of looking forward to your posts and your work really makes me miss Education.
Thanks, Pat.
Charter schools were created and expanded by rightwingers like the Walton family, the Koch brothers, and the DeVos family to undermine public schools and other public institutions. They were designed to be non-union, to destroy teachers’ unions and use teachers like TFA, who got no pensions or long term benefits. It’s a piece of the king-term rightwing plan to destroy public schools, eliminate Social Security and Medicare. Everyone a consumer, no public responsibility. The goal is to lower taxes for the richest.
I agree with everything you say, but don’t put down the public school teachers! They lost all autonomy (due to ed De-form) to teach children using best practices learned in teaching schools. Teaching is hard work and as a career, it requires a 4 year degree with internship, numerous tests to get certified and then more continuing education is required. And no, I am NOT a teacher.
If I wanted to put down school teachers I would. And it’s easy to do with the facts and, in my case, many years of experience working in public schools as an employee and a consultant. So don’t tempt me to remind you that being a teacher is the easiest degree at a university and that was by design. And that most teachers are people who are given to excessive caretaking but not smart enough to be an RN or a doctor. The facts are what they are and often they are not comforting. But sticking your head in the sand isn’t a good strategy when your whole system is being destroyed by those wanting to profit from kids needing to learn. There’s a reason this is only happening in the USA and that is because our system is so inferior that it’s vulnerable. Like most moral causes in the USA, the entire system moves forward on the backs of a few superstars who have sacrificed their lives to a toxic system and working environment but for the benefit of America’s children. Much like Lake Wobegon, all teachers cannot be better than average. But I also doubt many went into teaching because they knew it was the lowest bar at the university. Instead of worrying about hurting the feelings of teachers by showing them the facts, why not break all the rules of American education and tell them the true history of education in America. It was designed to be what it is. It wasn’t important so it was low-paid and staffed by women in an extremely unfair design. Our major improvements in education in the USA only happened because the military demanded it. The low pay and low prestige and low standards weren’t an accident. We were aholes to women and the degree programs in education were designed to be low quality and standards because of our horrible opinions of women. We adopted the factory model of education where kids are just a product that moved along an assembly line with teachers adding a bit of value at each stop. We will never fix this if we cannot learn, admit, and embrace basic truths about ourselves and our cultural inheritance. I have the degrees I write about here and I’m still angry that I wasn’t allowed to take the real classes instead of the how to teach versions. So I graduated a year late so I could take the ones I wanted and be the best at my subject matter. But I got no end of grief from the Dean who tried to sabotage my internship.
Pat,
I have spent half a century as a historian of education and I will say definitively that every one of your negative statements about teachers and public schools is wrong. I have met teachers in states across the nation. In every instance, the teachers were far smarter and far better educated than the people in the legislature. You are right about one thing: teachers are not paid enough. Our teachers are excellent. Our funding stinks.
Pasi Sahlberg, the great Finnish expert, wrote that if teachers in Indianapolis were exchanged for the same number of Finnish teachers, the US teachers would be brilliant, and everyone would complain about the Finnish teachers, who would be overwhelmed by the poverty of children in their classrooms in Indianapolis.
I hope your charter school survives for a few years.
Too bad the teachers have no union, no pension. They won’t last long.
That uploaded before I had a chance to edit from my iPhone. The two significant voice-to-text goofs are Pivot and Soviet. IMO, USA public schools are in a death spiral. Cons want to turn everything in America into a way for them to charge everyone else for every aspect of being alive in the USA. Dems don’t really care much about Education because we all know that most teachers are Cons. Boomers don’t want to pay for anyone else’s kids to do anything. And younger generations look at having kids as a life-breaking expense – which is exactly what Boomers have turned it into except they are on the profiting side of that equation. Worst of all is this class of PhDs who are running schools and districts. What a group of idiots. Sure, there are gems in there for sure. But every school knows that VP who was promoted out of the classroom so he’d do less damage. And out universities turning out Ed school grads for teaching are a bad joke on prospective teachers. There are so many great systems out there for understanding kids and learning but that is taught almost nowhere in the USA. Systems like SOI and the science of Information Design are over and over absent from grad school of ed programs. For five years I was the senior ed consultant for the largest ed company in the world. I worked in schools at prisons, corporations, school districts, universities, adult basic ed schools, reservations, and the rest. Never once did I run into anyone who had ever even heard of Information Design. When I was in the grad school of ed there was one professor who spent the entire class talking about teaching kids to levitate. But since she wasn’t touching anyone inappropriately she was there until she died. Point is we aren’t teaching people how to teach using their own personal skills and personality, we are not teaching people the basic science of how humans send and receive information, and finally we aren’t introducing people to proven tools of which there are many. I mention SOI above because it’s been here since WWII and is mostly in the public domain as it was developed by the US Gov and is still used by the military. And it’s proven to work. There are many other tools and systems and I believe there are far more systems out there working than I am aware of. You only need to go to the countries that are so far ahead of us to see they learned most of their tools and processes from the USA. The formula for saving public schools in the USA is simple. Smaller community schools with far less bureaucracy. Raise the pay for a new generation of people who must meet higher standards. Eliminate teaching degrees from the BA programs and replace that with subject mastery; you want to teach Chemistry – then you will need a BS, or preferably an MS in Chem. Replace the grad school crap with a year of intense training on various systems to help prospective educators find the tools and systems that best fit their skills and personality. Adopt a national curriculum based on science and truth so places like the SE states stop teaching lies about the Earth being 5K years old and the Civil War was really just the Last Unpleasantness. I’ve witnessed firsthand in places like Mississippi how little kids are taught religion in public schools. But that sort of child abuse happens in places both rural and urban. Someone who understands something needs to get out in front and explain what tenure is because no one in Education seems to be able to say the words, “Can’t be fired without due process” to the public. Any principal or superintendent who fires a teacher is dogged by the union when applying at other jobs. Teachers and kids lose when a person who is bad at teaching is sheltered from the consequences of that failure. Or course, the people who aren’t sheltered from the consequences of bad teaching are the students. Just like a few bad cops make all cops look bad, so do a few bad teachers make all teachers look bad.
Why? Because Americans on the whole are crappy at critical thinking. And you know where that wasn’t taught and why? In public schools by teachers, most of them don’t even have a working definition of what thinking is, so they certainly don’t have a working definition of critical thinking. Most of the school and districts I visited in America’s SE were staffed by people who didn’t have a working definition of an objective in education. Someone needs get out front and tell the stories about how our grandmothers were fired from teaching because they got married. And how new principals would fire teachers and hire their relatives or church bros for those positions. Or sell positions to the highest bidder. Instead, Cons have defined “tenure” for us in our absence where bad performers cannot be fired – just like cops and firemen. Finally, raise the pay (commensurate with a significant raising of standards) and thus the prestige. And raise the pay significantly (like doubling it minimum) so we can also change the way teachers are judged by school managers. Will this work? Hell no. Why? Because Americans live by a creed that says that no American can ever be too selfish. IMO the odds of Americans asking to pay more in taxes to restore school budgets are approaching zero. Cons have been on a campaign since 1970 to transfer the entire tax base in the USA from the very wealthy and corporations to the middle and lower class. All Dems have done is make it worse by tying school funding to gambling. While the middle and lower class would like better schools in the USA, they are burdened past their limit already and are racking up debt just to make ends meet. And what are public schools doing about it? Well, they are sending money to my old employer by the trainload while using all their time talking about various worthy but defeating pet social projects instead of talking about what we all have in common; a desire for fairness.
“But, like cops and firemen, the majority of people who go into Education are there becasue it’s the degree with the lowest standards and one of the few careers left with a pension in many places.”
Certainly sounds like a put down to me….and then you continued on.
Pat-
“I, I, I, I” How about the taxpayers of Ohio fleeced out of a billion dollars because grifters gave the state Republican Party funding?
How about people who don’t want to pay for racially segregated, GOP Jesus schools promoting hate against gays and advocating for punishing a 10-year old rape victim by forcing her to incubate the rapist’s sperm for 9 months? The same religious schools are promoted by the Koch network that delivers a rigged economic system of predators targeting the 90%. The schools in turn create GOP voters perpetuating a system of serfs like Ireland during the Great Hunger.
“I, I, I, I”, How about a nation of students who learn to care about climate change and other values of developed nations with humanity in mind?
A Must Read: “The Manufactured Crisis” by Bruce Biddle and David Berliner is as relevant today in understanding the strategies used by the enemies of public education as it was when first published in 1995. The book provides a detailed dissection of the deceptions that continue to be used today against the public’s schools. Read it.
The math scores are encouraging. The reading scores seem pretty weak considering that reading and math are just about the only things elementary schools teach these days. Given that science, civics, foreign language, art music and history are barely taught in elementary schools, I imagine those scores would be cause for teeth gnashing, not celebration.