Myah Ward of Politico Nightly interviewed Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine about the depressing fact that one million Americans have died due to COVID. It’s fair to say that he was outraged by the many thousands of unnecessary deaths, encouraged by Republican politicians and by hostility to science. One man, not mentioned here, could have persuaded his followers to get vaccinated and boosted, as he did. Donald Trump. But while he rightly took credit for the rapid development of vaccines, but did nothing to discourage the anti-vaxxers.
1 million deaths. Did you ever think we’d get here?
For me, the big reckoning was the fact that we’ve not really come to a real national dialogue about what happened after May 1, 2021. That was the day the White House announced that there are so many Covid vaccines that any American who wants to get vaccinated can get vaccinated. Yet we lost another 200,000-300,000 Americans after that date. Those who were defiant to vaccines were overwhelmingly in red states, and the redder the county as measured by Trump voters in the 2020 election, the higher the vaccine refusal and the greater the loss of life.
It wasn’t by accident. It was a deliberate effort by members of the House Freedom Caucus, in the House, some U.S. senators, amplified nightly on Fox News.
I don’t even call it misinformation or disinformation anymore. I call it anti-science aggression, to convince millions of Americans not to take a Covid vaccine. And at least 200,000 Americans between May 1 and the end of 2021 died needlessly from Covid because of it. And everyone’s afraid to talk about it because it’s very unpleasant to have to point out that these deaths occurred along such a strict partisan divide. Even the White House won’t talk about it in that way.
So, with an exhausted public, how would you re-engage Americans at this point? Is it by having these “unpleasant” conversations?
You can understand the first wave of deaths in New York in the spring of 2020. You can even start to understand the second wave of deaths in the summer of 2020, in Texas, in the southern U.S. when we’re just trying to understand it. But then as you move forward, you have to start to come to terms with the fact that a majority of the deaths were probably preventable. And certainly just about all of the deaths after May 1 were preventable. And I think that needs to be front and center. That these are not accidental deaths. The people who lost their lives and died after May 1 were themselves victims of anti-science aggression. If you look at the big-picture threats to the U.S. that we spend billions of dollars every year to combat, like global terrorism, nuclear proliferation, or cyberattacks. Anti-science aggression kills more Americans than all those things combined by far. And yet we don’t recognize it as such. That’s critically important to point that out.
Alongside Americans being “done” with the pandemic, there’s also the concern about Covid funding running out if Congress doesn’t act. How important is this money in your view?
We have to recognize that the mRNA boosters are not holding up as well as we’d like. We’re going to have to probably go — unless we come up with a better technology, which I think we should, but that’s a different matter — we’re gonna need to ask the American people to get boosted yet again. And we’re gonna have to provide those vaccines.
And we’re going to need an ongoing amount of Paxlovid, for instance. I mean, why am I talking to you right now? I’m talking to you right now because I’m the beneficiary of Paxlovid, which I’m on right now, and I’m the beneficiary of having my second booster. And even though it’s not ideal to ask Americans to continue to boost, it’s still going to be essential.
The White House is warning we could see 100 million infections this fall. How do you see this fall and winter unfolding?
I know that’s what the White House is doing, but I don’t quite understand the logic of jumping to fall and winter. We still have two big peaks that are hitting us before fall and winter. We have this current BA.2.12.1, which is now about to become the dominant variant. It’s so transmissible, all you need to do is give a dirty look to that subvariant and you become infected. It’s up there with measles. So that’s issue No. 1. And issue No. 2 is we’ve had a terrible wave of Covid-19 both for the last two summers in Texas in the southern United States. I’m expecting that again. Even before the fall, we’re going to have another wave over the summer from variant TBD, to be determined.

The blood of all these Americans is on the dirty little hands of Donald Trump.
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And Joe Biden, and every billionaire in the oligarchy.
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Joe Biden didn’t appoint Gorsuch, Kaveman, and Barrett. Trump did. Joe Biden didn’t appoint Alito. Bush, Jr. did. Joe Biden didn’t appoint Thomas. Bush, Sr. did.
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This decision is what becomes possible when the greatest imbecile in the history of politics gets to appoint three justices who can get behind the two most extreme right-wing justices in recent memory.
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As you should know, our Congress has been passing laws for 35 years (according to the famous Princeton study) that have almost nothing to do with the People’s wishes. The mistake was made when Roosevelt kicked out Stanton and picked Truman, instead. That opened the floodgates to the MIC that Eisenhower eventually identified as a threat.
Federalist Society judges have been the norm on the SC for more than the Trump years. Trump only submitted 3, so there should be a 6-3 anti-Trump majority, right? And, of course, now that the Court has proven to be a sham, Biden could expand it, right? Or, the Democratic majority could overturn the filibuster, right? Yet, it’s far easier and more fun to criticize ‘the other’ than to shoulder responsibility. This is what the Republican Party does, and now the Democratic Party is beginning to play the same game.
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Biden could expand it with a simple majority in both houses, but he doesn’t have that. Manchin and Sinema (and perhaps some others) wouldn’t get behind this.
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So, what is Biden doing to put pressure on these people. Apparently, Trump could do it, but Biden can’t (or won’t).
It seems there’s always a Democratic excuse, even with majorities. Do you remember Obama’s comment concerning health care going into supposed negotiations? “Well, Single Payer is off the table”. And, so, we now have a thoroughly corrupted (and expensive) health care system. It does support a bunch of salespeople, however, who might otherwise be on the public dole.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think the Republican Party is any better. It might be worse, but that’s leaving us with a sad choice. Tweedle Dum and slightly worse Tweedle Dee.
So, when are Americans going to put down their screens (their controlling Soma) and rise up? Apparently, it’s got to get a lot worse before it gets better.
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Daedalus, Roberts didn’t assign the majority opinion to Alito. The rule is that the senior justice on the majority either writes the opinion or assigns it.
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Obama was not a liberal. His military policies were indistinguishable from Bush, Jr’s. He didn’t back single payer. He taught Constitutional Law at Chicago but was just fine with trashing many, many violations of civil liberties. Biden has proved to be a great president. If he didn’t have Manchin and Sinema to deal with, he would be freaking FDR.
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If Biden had 60 votes in the Senate, he would be a spectacular President. But he can count on only 48.
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And again, it’s Bush Sr., Bush Jr., and Trump appointees who are trashing women’s rights and setting up for trashing unenumerated rights generally. Thinking that there is no difference between these parties is delusional.
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There were a very few areas in which Obama pursued policies that weren’t solidly Republicanesque. One was his liberalization of relations with Cuba, which Trump utterly backtracked on. And Obama didn’t want to bomb Mexico and shoot BLM protestors and asylum seekers.
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But anyone who cannot tell the difference between the Bushes and Trump on the one hand and Biden on the other is completely off the ideological deep end.
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Ideology can be completely blinding.
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It’s like not being able to tell the difference between Sotomayor (Obama appointee) and Alito (Bush appointee).
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None of the 6 conservative justices was appointed by a Democratic president.
Sonia Sotomayer, Stephen Breyer, and Elena Kagan have been consistently liberal and even courageous in their opinions. The new Justice Ketanji Brown-Jackson is superbly qualified.
Clarence Thomas was not qualified when appointed by the first President Bush. Alito was qualified but far far right. Roberts is conservative but has tried to be a moderating force. Trump’s picks were vetted by the extremist Federalist Society.
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Divide and conquer?
It seems that Republicans can block an appointment, even when their in the minority, however Democrats can’t do the same. Odd.
Given Garland’s performance as Attorney General, he might have been a dud on the Court, but he’s a case in point.
I’m also not so sure about the mindset of Roberts. I think he’s a ‘Susan Collins’, there to appear ‘rational’, but ready to flip in order to make things come out the ‘right way’. Why did he assign the ‘majority opinion’ to Alito?
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Three of these justices were appointed by Bushes and three by Trump, Daedalus. How would that make a 6-3 liberal majority? LOL.
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Perhaps the Dems could have used the same game as the Repubs,the ‘filibuster’. Why didn’t they?
Honestly, try to consider the possibility that our oligarchy pulls the strings of both of our official ‘Parties’, and that they play one segment of our population against another in order to control and manipulate.
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Although a President can ‘nominate’ (as Obama did for Garland), it’s up to the Senate to ‘consent’. The Repubs have used the filibuster threat over and over in order to quash potential judges, but the Dems just ‘go along to get along’, or go along for other reasons (money?).
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You can’t filibuster Supreme Court nominees. Haven’t been able to since McConnell got the rule changed in 2017.
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Note the date of 2017. Is that when history began? Come on, Bob.
And, BTW, I don’t appreciate your snarky ‘LOL’. It’s a rhetorical trick used to demean another’s position, and I would hope most people would see it as such. Try to control your apparent need to bolster your arguments with such that. Using such tricks indicates a certain concern about the logic of your position, doesn’t it?.
Of course, it could have been a ‘slip of the keypad’.
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My apologies for the snark, Daedalus. But there was nothing that Democrats could do about these Republican Supreme Court nominees by Trump given that they needed an actual majority, which they didn’t have, given that some of the Democratic Senators are DINOS. And that created a supermajority on the Supreme Court, and that court is now, as a result, an Extreme Court, and there is ZERO chance of progressive rulings and almost certainty of extremely regressive ones going forward for decades to come, unless the Dems can win both Houses and the Presidency and expand the court. So, it simply is not the case, it is simply FACTUALLY FALSE, that it makes no difference whether the Republicans or Democrats are in power, however much some on the left might be committed to that notion ideologically. This Republican supermajority on the court may well be the end of anything approaching democratic government in the United States.
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Apology accepted (sometimes I also make mistakes..Can you believe it!?).
Look… I was vice-chair of my local Democratic Party, in line to be the chairperson. I spent five years of pacing the halls of the State Legislature and building relationships with the folks who worked there. I’m sympathetic to many of them, and even a few lawyers. All of this happened after I ‘retired’ from teaching, and very few people have gotten off of their butt to do as much. I’m not speaking from an ‘ivory tower’.
Eventually, I quit. It was exhausting (and expensive) and I’m now old. I did, however, learn a lot about the ‘system’. It’s time for the next generations to take over, and if they can’t, they’re doomed to another ‘Dark Age’.
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I sympathize with your frustration, Daedalus. I really do. Gavin Newsome said about the Dobbs decision, “Where the hell is my party?” Too many DINOS for too long on too many issues. This is definitely so. And now, with this Extreme Court supermajority, we’re in for a lot of liberties being taken away by a minority party, people protesting those, states responding with violence, people protesting more intensely, more violence, in a negative feedback loop. Things are going to get really bad really quickly.
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cx: Newsom
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Progressives arguing that Democrats are just as bad, though, given the current reality, which Diane Ravitch has warned about FOR YEARS, are like someone saying, “I’d give my right arm to be ambidextrous.”
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I fear you are right, Bob. This Court might overturn Brown V Board, since precedent means nothing to them. They may well ban the sale of contraceptives, the privacy of the bedroom, interracial marriages, gay marriage. What will they leave intact of the gains of the past 75 years?
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Or say as Alito did that these cases were egregiously wrongfully decided because they dealt with rights not enumerated in the Constitution and not deeply embedded in our history and turn them back to the states instead of the courts. You ask the important question, Diane. What do they want to leave intact? Nothing. They want to go back to the time when a woman couldn’t by law own a credit card unless she was married and had her husband’s written permission, when women weren’t allowed into places like Princeton and Harvard and Yale and Columbia and Brown.
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Roy, what’s good for the goose, . . .
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Why Joe Biden? He didn’t lie about the pandemic. He didn’t endorse fake cures.
He urged everyone to get vaccinated and boosted. He took his vaccines in public. He followed the science.
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Expansion of the court would arrive with its problems as well. Even with a super majority, FDR only threatened this extreme. The public would interpret it as a power grab, stirred by the so-called liberal media.
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So? You think the current Republican Party isn’t involved in a ‘power grab’? How is that inhibiting them?
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It is very important not to help push right wing propaganda by saying that Obama was like a Republican and supported Republican policies.
Obama may have supported policies similar to Republican policies 15 years ago. Not ones that they support today. Obamacare was the Republican plan of old, but today’s Republicans now consider it the most radical, socialist plan ever. It normalizes today’s Republicans to equate Obama as “Republican” because today’s Republicans are John Birchers, nothing like Obama
Today’s Republicans are nothing like the kind of Republican Obama was. When the Supreme Court decided Roe V. Wade, 7 justices signed on, many of them appointed by Republicans.
I wish our country was not in this crisis and we could debate long ago Republicanism versus today’s Democrats. But it is irrelevant.
Because today is about today’s Republican party, which is nothing like Obama. Nothing like Obama at all. They aren’t really much like past Republicans. They are more like the John Birch Society or neo-Nazi party.
And they are about seize power. And too many people are helping them by using anti-Democrat rhetoric that normalizes the Republicans as if they were the Republicans of old. The so-called liberal media acts like useful idiots for that John Birch Society anti-democracy party that still calls itself “Republican” and presents them as the Republicans of old.
Everyone needs to stop comparing the Democrats to the Republican party from 15 years ago and saying “no difference”. That Republican party does not exist. The “new” far right anti-democracy Republican party does, and progressives who believe that empowering that party is not going to destroy this country are truly deluding themselves and they are one reason we are in this mess. They keep putting their hands over their ears and insisting that today’s Republican party is just like the one from years ago and there is just no difference between them and the dems and it just doesn’t matter if they control the Supreme Court. If the current situation doesn’t make them realize they were wrong, then nothing will, until the rest of us are marched to the gas chambers (and then they will probably still make excuses and blame someone else for the choice they made to deny reality.
We are dealing with today’s Republican party. It is a party that I doubt even Reagan would recognize.
AOC and Bernie understand this. So I have no idea why people who invoke their names don’t understand this. Maybe some psychiatrist could figure it out. But they need to either get therapy, fast, or our country is not going to survive as a democracy.
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BA-4 and BA-5 are kicking up a South African fuss, and no one knows how lethal they are. Seems like every variant has come out of there for some reason. It makes me wonder if that was not the original place of Corona instead of Wuhan.
Meanwhile, it is time for my next booster. I am not looking forward to feeling like the north end of a southbound mule, but I will do it anyway.
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I’ve been lucky. No negative effects from any of the shots or from the first booster. Going for the second next Monday. I hope this one goes well for you, Roy!
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I have had all four shots. No COVID so far. My spouse tested positive today. Mild illness. Like a cold. Hoping to dodge the COVID. Who would walk the dog?
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My best for her quick recovery!!! And so pleased that you have had all these, Diane!!!
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Diane: Hope you continue to avoid the Covid. Luckily, the recent variants have been less harsh, leading us to the hope that the worst is past. I now begin to worry that vaccination, while immediately successful, will lead to a new super Covid like we have with antibiotics and super bacteria.
Bob: May your vaccination not rob you of your writing ability.
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About six months after having Covid, I developed Type II Diabetes. It’s now known that this is fairly common.
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And it may be a lot worse than Anti-Science Aggression. They aren’t trying to save money. They are not conserving “Conservatives”. They are not natural healing advocates.
GOPee knew exactly what the Pandemic would do. They even secretly vaccinated themselves against infection.The ensuing chaos was a weapon to be manipulated as they concentrated on demolishing democracy.
The obstacle course of overwhelmed hospitals, shuttered schools, panic buying, dying citizens, epidemic misinformation and quarantine isolation was used to their advantage in every possible way. A calculation of cruelty and criminality. The modern arsenal of fascist takeover.
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If there is a bright side, cynically speaking, they were misleading and killing their own.
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calculation of cruelty and criminality.
exactly
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Science/Medicine is now political and privatized…… and it shouldn’t be. There are still too many politicians devoted to finding out where and how Covid started instead of focusing on the fact that it’s here to stay and what we need to do to live with it. The constant “pointing of fingers” and playing the “blame game” only makes matters worse by encouraging conspiracy theories.
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We passed the million mark some time ago (according to the most respected counter), but nobody noticed. Our attention was diverted first by the Ukrainian thing, and next by the Supreme Court.
Wouldn’t you think that the killing of a million Americans might just cause a sense on outrage? And, yet ……. As George Carlin said, “Nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care”.
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We are noticing now.
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The anti-vaxxers are still terrorizing school boards.
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Why is this allowed to happen?
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What is worse there is a very effective traditional vaccine available in other countries, but not yet here, called Novavax. It has a higher titer value than the other vaccines. Despite its success, approval for Novavax has stalled, although it is expected to be approved in June. The consensus is that the lobbying by Pfizer has slowed the process down while it grabs its market share here. Novavax is a small company, and it does not have the clout of Big Pharma. Truth be told is I own some shares in this company so I have been following the stock. If this vaccine had been available earlier, it also could have saved more lives in this country as well.
Business does not care if people live or die. They only want to make money. That’s why the ACO Reach scheme for Medicare is such a terrible idea. It is a pay for success scheme that allows private equity to hijack Medicare and deny service to seniors while they can collect up to 40% of the Medicare benefit. It will be a reckless disaster like private prisons, charter schools and nursing homes. Wall St. should not be in charge of public benefits.
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Well said.
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Exactly! With so many still getting Covid after vaccination and boosters, one would think that our “scientists” would be looking for other solutions. They can’t and they won’t! Health care/Science is privatized/underwritten with the goal of making money for a “big corporation”. This isn’t about making people well or keeping people well, it’s about making bank and getting richer by keeping people unwell, sick and reliant on the Medical Industrial Complex.
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I don’t blame Big Pharma for the people who refuse to get vaccinated. They and FOX and GOP leaders have encouraged and celebrated the opposition to vaccines.
It’s right to rant about Big Pharma for jacking up the prices of prescription drugs and fighting Biden’s effort in Congress to give Medicare the authority to negotiate lower prices.
But Big Pharma does not benefit when millions of people refuse to get a vaccine.
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If anything, Big Pharma would rather sell you drugs for the rest of your life than sell you a vaccine once or twice. For example, I’ve long suspected they don’t want a vaccine for HIV if it means that they can’t sell Truvada forever.
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Yep. Pharma ain’t science, it’s engineering and marketting.
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Big Pharma wins either way. They make money off the production of vaccines (which don’t seem to work as well as expected and were developed using tax payer dollars) which will be needed yearly. They make bigger $$$$ from those that get Covid and have long term effects (type II diabetes, heart/lung disease, clotting issues etc) all of which require expensive medications for life. Big Pharma (aided and abetted by our political system) has won big in the Covid dog fight.
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Biden is trying to pass legislation to lower the costs of prescription drugs and the profits of Big Pharma. Every Republican is opposed, along with the DINOs. Why? Don’t their constituents want to pay less for prescription drugs?
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It is impossible to save lives when Republicans encourage hostility to vaccines. No matter what the brand, the vaccines are rejected by a significant portion of the population. Even when they are free and available, the never-vax crowd don’t want them. They believe they have the absolute right to control their bodies and those of their children. (The sane people do not extend that right to women.)
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retired teacher,
Novavax may turn out to be a great vaccine, but the reason it is not as pervasive is not because of some evil “Big Pharma”.
The federal government invested $1.6 billion in the Novavax vaccine in 2020!
First of all, Novavax is completely different than the pfizer/moderna vaccine because it used more traditional vaccine manufacturing technology, which I believe is similar to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
Secondly, Novavax doesn’t manufacture its own vaccine (it is manufactured in plants overseas) and it had a lot of issues with vaccine production. Those checks of vaccine purity are important.
Thirdly, Novavax could not even deliver all the promised vaccine dosages to the countries that did authorize it because of those problems. I believe all of most of those problems are now fixed.
Is Novavax even participating in the program to provide free vaccines in countries with little access?
What is this “Big Pharma”? Big pharmaceutical companies that are big public corporations are owned by shareholders – would not surprise me if that includes teachers’ unions. Novavax is also a publicly traded company. Not sure there is much difference.
I hope the Novavax vaccine is great. But if “Big Pharma” was in charge, then the J&J vaccine would still be popular. I believe J&J is significantly “bigger pharma” than pfizer.
Voters no longer trust anything and that is just what the Republicans want.
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Novavax had supply chain and distribution problems well over a year ago. These issues were resolved long ago, but it is still waiting for approval, even though several other countries are successfully using it. It had a successful trial in South Africa, but the CDC required Novavax to repeat the three stage trial in the US. Like other vaccines it will become less potent with time, but the time is more like six months instead of four. Unlike the J&J vaccine Novavax had no terrible side effects in any trials or in other countries where it is used.
Teachers rarely know the details of where pensions are invested. The NY Teachers were invested in a private prison. NYSUT pressured the state to get rid of this investment, and it did. In Florida the state pensions are invested in Russian oil and gas. DeSantis was warned about the possible losses from the sanctions, but the ever arrogant DeSantis has refused to divest the state from this investment.
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Years ago, Jeb Bush invested teachers’ pension funds in the Edison Project, which was intended to launch privatization of schools. It was a lousy stock too. Fell from
$36 to $1.
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I notice that DeSantis, who is no wallflower and is happy to open his mouth about anything, is almost completely silent on Ukraine. His only public comments: gas is expensive, and it’s Biden’s fault.
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Well, It is Biden’s fault, as well as Trump’s fault, and Obama’s fault, and so on. They were the ones pushing to expand NATO after the ‘fall’ of the Soviet Union. We were supposed to finally have a ‘peace dividend’, but that would have meant a pay cut for the MIC (might even have gone to schools). Well, THAT couldn’t be allowed, so here we are.
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Daedalus,
No American president “pushed to expand NATO.” The former Soviet satellites, having suffered decades of Soviet domination, clamored to join NATO. They wanted protection from their former dictatorship. They feared that Russian imperialism. None of them had the military strength to withstand what Putin is doing to Ukraine right now. They sought admission to NATO for protection against resurgent Russian aggression. Russia could reconquer Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia with ease. They knew that. Why do you think Finland and Sweden are now considering joining NATO? The U.S. is not “pushing” them. Europe is afraid of the megalomaniac in the Kremlin.
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NYC public school parent
“What is this “Big Pharma”? Big pharmaceutical companies that are big public corporations are owned by shareholders”
That is pretty much a straw man go buy some shares show up at a Stockholders meeting and let me know how you make out.
The only thing I fault Biden for is not removing patent protections on drugs that were incubated for 15 years with public dollars then tested with public dollars. Doing so would have made these vaccines available in the 3rd world before dangerous mutations occurred.
For the 60 Billion Pharma spends on research we could save 350 -400 Billion in the difference in cost between Generics and Brand Drugs. A huge !!!!!! chunk of that comes from Medicare , Medicaid and the VA.
A hell of a lot more research dollars would become available by not funding research with Government funded monopolies (being that you are making the Neo Liberal Right Wing argument ) that date to the 17th century.
And while we are at it, the Free Market, Stock Market was bailed out twice in a little over 10 years.
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Joel,
Is Novavax big pharma or not?
You make some other good points and I agree with much of them.
But those are different points.
This is about legitimizing the kind of conspiracy theory rhetoric the right wing uses to convince everyone, including progressives, that Dems are as corrupt as the Republicans.
Novavax approval was held up because the US has good vaccine supply and they took their time to make doubly sure any new vaccines were safe. Because right now, the issue isn’t supply, it is getting people to use a vaccine when the Republicans keep harping about the dangers. The supply chain issues weren’t resolved “long ago”. They were resolved recently, and as far as I could read, the company is still behind in delivering the vaccine that other countries already purchased.
There isn’t the same urgency now in the US to approve new vaccines. The earlier vaccine approval wasn’t rushed for “political” reasons or to help the company. It was rushed because this country desperately needed vaccines. Now it does not. Novavax will be approved. It won’t be rushed the way earlier vaccines were.
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NYC public school parent
Actually the MRNA vaccines were not all that rushed.
You have to compare the factors that make vaccine development a slow process.
How big is the market for a vaccine when none existed ? COVID huge!!!!
Your investment potential return vast. Therefore throwing money into testing was a no brainer for Pfizer and even easier for Moderna with Uncle Sam picking up the tab. In any event your market will be shared in the Developed World making it less lucrative.
How many volunteers can you easily recruit for your study .
In 2020 they are knocking on your door to volunteer. Not so much in 2021 with two highly effective existing vaccines and 40% vaccine hesitancy.
Is the virus cooperating by infecting enough people to allow you to collect data ? No problemo ! Unlike testing an Ebola vaccine when there is no epidemic. In fact the FDA requested more data than usual. Which delayed the process a few weeks.
Lastly both these Vaccines candidates were ready for testing within days of China releasing the genetic sequence back in January . Like an architect pulling a stock drawing out of the file cabinet and asking you to choose your Kitchen cabinets and and bathroom faucets . They substituted a piece of Covid’s genetic code into a platform that was developed for other viruses.
Later vaccines can be compared on all the above factors. The market is shared. Volunteers are not as available those that would volunteer have already been vaccinated with the MRNA vaccines making it more like what trials face in other diseases . And although the virus is widespread these are new variants every couple of months. Possibly making efficacy testing more difficult. Just as it makes the MRNA vaccines less effective against infection and transmission.
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retired teacher
They have a data issue as well. The US trials were only recently completed. The FDA is not in the habit of using foriegn data. They did use it for booster recommendations, but that was after the MRNA Vaccines had full approvals.
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I worry about the next pandemic. With the earth’s population approaching 8 billion, the probability of a truly massive pandemic rises. Are we ready? Who would suggest that we are?
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Pandemic Rapture
We’re ready to die
If that’s what you mean
We’re ready to vy
For Heaven, it seems
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True, and sad.
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Wow! The return of SDP! How oft have we missed these lines?
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Meanwhile, we have an epidemic of drug overdose deaths that is growing each year, and, unlike Covid, does not mainly impact the elderly. Last year, about 108,000 Americans died from drug overdoses, with fetanyl and a newer super-octane version of meth driving most of the increase. I see several overdoses each week from my front door. This is spreading like wildfire.
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Several college students have died from fentanyl that was unknowingly mixed with drugs they had bought. A couple of college kids invented a fentanyl test strip that can be used to detect traces of fentanyl in drugs. These college kids are going to major cities and universities and giving the strips away for free. Some moralistic conservatives object because they feel it “encourages drug use.” https://www.phila.gov/2022-03-08-fentanyl-test-strip-giveaway-campaign-wrap-u
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Those are great for kids taking adderall and xanax, and even stuff like cocaine. I talk to the guys on my block and they all say that if you’re doing heroin these days, you have to just assume it has fetanyl. But they all just use fetanyl knowingly. They say they know how much to take. But EMS is outside my building daily, so I guess they don’t.
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Here’s a “lab” making fetanyl.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-secret-look-at-a-mexican-cartels-low-tech-multimillion-dollar-fentanyl-operation
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FLERP!,
Because of the pandemic and the refusal of some Americans to take any precautions to try to slow it down, our country’s healthcare system is under huge stress. Health care providers are burned out.
Overdose deaths, mental health deaths, cancer deaths, heart attack deaths — everything is exacerbated in a country where the health care system is under huge strain.
And as a country, with one party only interested in political gain, it is impossible to work on solutions.
What are Governors doing? What are state legislatures doing?
ALASKA had the biggest increase in overdose deaths.
“Mr. Biden is the first president to embrace harm reduction, an approach that has been criticized by some as enabling drug users, but praised by addiction experts as a way to keep drug users alive while providing access to treatment and support.
Instead of pushing abstinence, the approach aims to lower the risk of dying or acquiring infectious diseases by offering sterile equipment — through needle exchanges, for example — or tools to check drugs for the presence of fentanyl. Strips that can detect fentanyl have become increasingly valuable resources for local health officials, and some states have moved recently to decriminalize them, even as others resist.”
The Republicans don’t want to work on solutions. Biden does. What else is new?
If the Republican became the 35% party they should rightfully be, this country could start to address problems like this one.
“Lock ’em up” is about as complex as the Republicans’ problem-solving gets.
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Strips are good, but they don’t do much for the users of fentanyl, who know they’re using fentanyl, who are seeking out fentanyl because they’re addicted to it.
I live right next to a methadone clinic and a needle exchange. The methadone helps some. Others just sell the methadone on the street—check out the McDonalds on 35th and 8th if you’re in rhe market—and use the proceeds to buy fentanyl or meth. The needle exchange helps reduce disease transmission but it does nothing to stop addiction. I pass through these users daily and they’re like zombies and corpses. I am skeptical that the harm reduction model can curb this trend. It’s certainly not working in the Tenderloin in San Francisco. This stuff is dirt cheap to produce and dirt cheap to the user. You can buy a single dose for under $5 on the street. Users say they’re hooked after one time—there’s a “voice” that talks to you from that point forward. Safe injection sites seem to just facilitate the habit and delay the inevitable. And now addicts are allowed to buy and use on the street with impunity. There has to be a way to coerce addicts into recovery, to interrupt the addiction. And law enforcement has to play a role. Social services alone cannot stop this, in my view.
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FLERP!
Not sure what addiction has to do with Covid and the death cult,driven for political motives to march like lemmings into the sea. But it seems you will take any opportunity to divert the topic from successful mask and vaccine mandates we see in other Countries. The fatality rate you want to compare is after the initial surge was over.
In any event the per-capita drug overdose rate in West Virginia and Kentucky are the highest in the Nation 2 and 3 x higher than NY . This is certainly not for lack of enforcement or snowflake drug laws.
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Joel, I recognize it’s not on-topic—many apologies and please don’t turn me in!
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NYCpsp:
“Lock ’em up”
Also, “let ’em die.”
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FLERP! says:
“There has to be a way to coerce addicts into recovery, to interrupt the addiction. And law enforcement has to play a role. Social services alone cannot stop this, in my view.”
HOW does “law enforcement” play a role? Shoot them all dead?
“Coerce”? Where do you think that happens? HOW do you think that happens? People who WANT to get help with recovery can’t even find beds in treatment facilities.
I happen to have followed the drug policy questions for many decades. The discussion of legalization and how to treat addiction is decades old. In fact, methadone as treatment for heroin addiction became acceptable at a time when politicizing everything by lying wasn’t the only policy Republicans liked (beyond disenfranchising as many non-right wing voters as they could, cutting taxes for their billionaire funders, and figuring out how to privatize all good social programs so their pals could enrich themselves at governent expense.) It’s a shame that the Republicans are no longer interested in policy.
Beyond that, one thing I learned is that law enforcement doesn’t WANT to deal with this. The prison system doesn’t WANT to deal with this.
How exactly do you plan to lock up thousands or tens of thousands of addicts and then what?
Let them suffer withdrawal in their prison cells with no help?
Force them into a medicated withdrawal and put them back on the street to become addicts again?
Have you actually spoken to the people who run prisons about their feelings? You think they want to be overrun with folks suffering withdrawal symptoms and then having to deal with them?
Do you think prisons have medical facilities to lock up addicts and deal with them?
Do you know how many addicts are self-medicating due to mental illness?
Thoughtful people have been trying to figure this out for a long while. And they aren’t helped by a right wing Republican party and their propaganda arm that does not actually care about dealing with the problem and is only concerned with how much political mileage they can get by scapegoating the Dems of and invoking being “soft on crime”.
Almost all worsening social problems these days can be traced directly back to the fact that one party traffics in lies and some people who claim they do not support that lying political party spend far too much time legitimizing and amplifying their dishonest narratives, like how there is some easy solution and reinforcing the lie that it is clearly the fault of Dems not being more “tough on crime”.
Republicans traffic in professing to have “better” ways without actually having to think about better ways. The people gullible enough to believe these solutions after Republicans have shown them time and time again that they don’t exist are either truly brainwashed by their propaganda or just never had the intellectual capacity to see it. And while that sounds mean, I know a lot of very conservative people who were lifetime Republicans who recognize that the Republicans are spewing lies and nonsense. They may not like progressive social policies, but they do believe in truth.
The others believe that the Republicans have an amazing plan to replace Obamacare that will provide great healthcare at an affordable price. It’s just a secret.
The others believe that the Republicans had an amazing plan to withdraw from Afghanistan that would evacuate millions of citizens, while the remaining ones created the utopia of freedom and capitalism that Republicans supposedly love (of course abortion would be illegal, however). That plan was also a secret.
And the Republican plan to end these overdose death is also a secret. But that won’t stop them from doing everything they can to block and undermine any plan by Biden to deal with this problem and keep those overdose deaths high.
And it won’t stop those who are complicit from pushing the favorite Republican narrative that there is a secret better plan to deal with it and it is only the corruption of the “pro-criminal” Dems that is preventing this solution from happening.
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Law enforcement is key for arresting street dealers, assuming district attorneys will prosecute them. And in my view, law enforcement should be involved in getting diverting street addicts to treatment. This is what’s done in Portugal, which appears to have achieved a lot of success in the area of harm reduction. In Lisbon, you can’t just fix in public with impunity — you will be arrested, and basically given a choice between jail or treatment. In NYC, we let them rot on the street.
I see the words Republican and Democrat in your comment a lot. My town is a one-party town (as most big cities are), so that kind of framing isn’t really productive on this issue.
This is a complicated discussion probably not best suited for here, but that’s what I get for going off-topic.
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NYCPSP, I just looked more closely at your comment, which appears to be a rant about Republicans with a closing salvo that accuses me of being some kind of Republican operative pushing propaganda. I don’t know why your tone is always so overheated. Try dialing down the temperature and ease off the insinuations and accusations.
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Sigh, just read the post above to see what “insults” are. Only one of us traffics in them.
FLERP!, you cite Portugal. But had I just read your post, I would think Portugal was some kind of “lock em up” society using law enforcement.
Instead, Portugal decriminalized all drug use decades ago.
“the decriminalisation of personal possession is only one part of broader health-centred drug policy reforms that involve an increased focus on harm reduction and treatment provision.6 By ‘accepting the reality of drug use rather than eternally hoping that it will disappear as a result of repressive legislation’, Portuguese reform allows drugs to be treated as a health, rather than criminal justice, issue.7 The benefits of these reforms, therefore, arise from both decriminalisation itself and the establishment of a wider health-based response to drug problems.”
I guess we found something we agree upon — Portugal seems like it has a good approach to drug use.
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Please stop arguing with FLERP. This is boring.
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I am totally fed up with the American attitude toward covid. This article points to 200k-300k needless deaths after 5/1/21 thanks to a large number of Americans simply refusing to get vaccinated/ boosted. Today—1 year later– I am totally fed up with the vast majority of people right in my blue-blue NJ area refusing to mask up in public indoor venues despite the most transmissible-yet variant currently circulating out there. Despite positivity rate continuing to cycle up—when we know that # is vastly under-reported because everyone who is actually testing Is doing it via at-home rapid-tests, not reported anywhere. So anyone like me who is well over 65yo & has a couple of health issues is like, well just mask up if you want & use a high-quality mask cuz it’s just you and that’s your problem, & hopefully that’ll do the trick.
The news that fed govt is running out of funding to provide 4th vaccine or additional testing et al meds needed to treat covid is just the icing on the cake. Frankly, if I’d had a crystal ball showing where this country was headed—politically– 40 yrs hence, back when hubby & I got married, I would have talked him into applying to Canada for citizenship. I am very unhappy about the American legacy/ future for my millennial kids.
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NYCpsp:
“Lock ’em up”
Also, “let ’em die.”
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yes. Except they don’t actually say that. They get their little “helpers” to aid them in amplifying their lie that there is simply “a better way” and the Dems are to blame for not using this “better way”.
This “better way” includes invoking using “law enforcement” without actually explaining how one uses law enforcement. They just want their little “helpers” to say that because it helps push their favorite propaganda that this problem is the fault of Dems being “soft on crime”.
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Diane Ravitch, tell that to people who feel like they have the right to abortion on-demand and the victims that those deaths would be a choice.
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