It is deeply upsetting to sit at home in a warm place, with plenty of food and water, and to read the stories from cities under siege in Ukraine. If Putin thought that Russian forces would get a warm welcome, he was badly misinformed. If he thought he was “liberating” the people of Ukraine, he was badly misinformed. Most of us were unprepared to believe that there would be another ground war in Europe in our lifetimes.
The New York Times posted this story a few hours ago:
Streams of people exit Mariupol as city officials struggle to account for the dead.

LVIV, Ukraine — After helping a friend stanch the bleeding from a shrapnel wound on Tuesday morning during a renewed shelling in Mariupol, Anastasia Kushnir and her family decided it was time to take the opportunity to get out of the besieged coastal city, where they had been struggling to stay alive for the past three weeks.
“There was heavy shelling and aerial bombardment,’’ said Ms. Kushnir, who is 21. “But we made it out, fortunately.”
Ms. Kushnir and her family members made it as far as Urzuf, a small beachside town on the Sea of Azov 28 miles from Mariupol, a way station on their way further north and west, to safety. A drive that usually takes 30 minutes took five hours, as their car joined a convoy of thousands of others trying to leave after waiting weeks for a humanitarian corridor to open.
About 160 cars left on Monday, and an estimated 4,000 cars, or 20,000 people, left the city on Tuesday, city officials said. Ms. Kushnir said she saw cars broken down along the road: many had run out of gasoline, which she said was nearly impossible to find in the region.
But still, she said in an interview, she was relieved to be out of Mariupol and away from the constant shelling.
“Humanitarian corridors have been partially opened today,” said President Volodymyr Zelensky in a speech on Tuesday. “Little by little people are leaving the besieged city by private transport.” However, he lamented that “a convoy with humanitarian cargo for Mariupol remains blocked. For several days in a row.”
About 2,000 vehicles had managed to escape the city by Tuesday afternoon, and another 2,000 were packed to leave before nightfall, Pyotr Andryushchenko, an assistant to Mariupol’s mayor, told The New York Times in a phone interview.
Officials told civilians hoping to leave to “delete all messengers and photos from phones” in case Russian soldiers tried to search them for signs of support for Ukrainian forces.
Ms. Kushnir said she and her family had tried to leave before, but the locations where a convoy was being organized were being shelled. While they waited, she said, she and her family slept on the floor of a room with no electricity, no lights, no windows and no heating.
“There is not a single residential building left with windows in my neighborhood,” she said. After five days, they started to run out of food. Residents organized into groups, with men walking amid the shelling to find water, and women improvising outdoor cook stoves to make watery vegetable soups.
Temperatures dropped to as low as 16 degrees Fahrenheit, Ms. Kushnir said. “We had to drink tea constantly to keep warm,” she said, adding that some elderly people had died of cold and hunger.
As she left her city by car, she saw bodies lying in the street, which the authorities had not managed to collect or bury.
“People who died are not buried, they just lie where they died,” she said. “There is an enormous number of them.”
With some residents crushed in the rubble from the relentless Russian onslaught and others dying in freezing conditions with no heat, food or clean water, officials in the besieged coastal city of Mariupol are struggling to account for the number of dead and missing.
Officially, 2,400 civilians killed in the city have been identified, but Mr. Andryushchenko said he believed the toll was far higher.
“We have inaccurate data on civilians killed,” he said in an interview with Current Time, a Ukrainian radio station. He said the official figure represented a “small handful” of those killed and estimated that the actual total could be as high as 20,000.
A battleground since the first hours of the war, Mariupol is under an increasingly relentless assault that is taking an unspeakable toll. Ukrainian estimates for the number of civilians trapped in the city have ranged from 200,000 to 400,000, with the latest estimate being 300,000.
The region’s top official, Pavlo Kyrylenko, who until martial law was declared was its governor, announced that the Russians were also holding doctors and patients of the main intensive care hospital hostage. An estimated 400 people are inside.
“It is impossible to get out of the hospital,” Mr. Kyrylenko wrote on Telegram, quoting a message from one of the facility’s employees. “They shoot hard, we sit in the basement. Cars have not been able to drive to the hospital for two days. High-rise buildings are burning around.”
Battered by Russian shelling, the city has been overwhelmed by the wounded and dead. Videos shared on Telegram showed residents of the Cheryomushki neighborhood burying a body in a courtyard. Another video showed how local people had turned a post office building into a makeshift morgue, with “MORGUE” spray-painted in large Cyrillic letters on the outside of the ground floor of the building.
“Here, in this building of the New Post Office on Cheryomushki, they stack corpses, which in the future they themselves will bury,” a man can be heard saying in the video, which he posted to the Telegram channel Mariupol Now.
Russian forces have dropped more than 100 bombs within the city limits, according to a Telegram post by the Mariupol city council, destroying nearly all basic services, even as they battle Ukrainian forces on the outskirts of the metropolis.
The Kremlin has said that it is Ukrainian forces that are keeping people trapped in the city. The Ukrainian government says that repeated attempts at mass evacuation have failed as they came under attack by Russian forces.
The Ukrainian Army’s high command said on Tuesday that its forces had managed to repel the latest Russian attempt to move into the city, claiming to have destroyed two tanks, seven infantry fighting vehicles and one armored personnel carrier. “After the losses, the occupiers stopped the offensive and retreated,” the Ukrainian military said.
The Ukrainians noted that their forces had also suffered losses. It is nearly impossible to independently verify almost any information out of Mariupol, as nearly all lines of communication have been severed.
Mr. Andryushchenko, the adviser to the city government, declined to comment in his phone interview with The Times on whether he and the mayor would be evacuating from the city. The mayor’s security would likely be of concern: Russian forces kidnapped the mayor of nearby Melitopol and installed a replacement.
“We sincerely hope for the safety of our mayor and that our defenders will help ensure it,” Mr. Andryushchenko said. “We know for sure that he will not accept the Russian occupation under any circumstances, will not cooperate with the occupiers and will not recognize any occupation authority.”
But he was also at a loss for words thinking about the city’s future. He has estimated that 80 percent of the residential housing stock has been destroyed. “What kind of city can it be?”
Ms. Kushnir, a model, described the persistent fear of being there for the last three weeks: “Every day is like a new birth. That is, you do not know whether you make it home or not.”
After she arrived to Urzuf, she had her first proper meal in weeks. But her mind was occupied with new pressing questions, she said:
“How will it be possible to get somehow to a safe place in Ukraine? Where is it safe in this country? How it will be possible to go abroad, where it can be safe for us?”
Horrors! I think Putin is in cognitive and mental decline. This is the best I can say about Putin. You don’t want to know the rest.
He did exactly the same terror tactics in Grozny in 1999. He has not changed. He is the new Stalin.
One historical well known phrase keep repeating in my head as I read and/or watch videos about the war in Ukraine.
“Give me liberty, or give me death?”
https://www.colonialwilliamsburg.org/learn/deep-dives/give-me-liberty-or-give-me-death/
This is what that phrase means to me in this time.
I think the West must decided if they want a safe world or no world and confront Putin on the battlefield, call his bluff that he will use nuclear weapons if the West sends its military to de fend Ukraine.
If Putin is not stopped, he will never stop. As long as the West fears his threats of nuclear war, Putin wins and we lose until democracy is no more.
FDR was the one that said, “The only thing to fear, is fear itself.”
I think it is time to risk it all and “give us liberty from the Putins of the world, or give us death.”
Diane, I have difficulty taking a sip of cold clean water without thinking of what the Ukrainian people are going through. You’re right. Who would ever have thought in our lifetime something like this? Fervent prayers and money are something… but we still feel so helpless.
God help Ukraine. 💔
Horrific. Putin has even less excuse than familiar monsters like Hitler.
I know everyone who dissents is a Russian agent and everything you disagree with is Russian propaganda, but I also know you have (or at least used to have) respect for Chris Hedges: https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/15/chris-hedges-waltzing-to-armageddon/
Russia invaded Ukraine. NATO did not invade Ukraine. Nor did the U.S.
Putin is committing war crimes against the Ukrainian people.
He is destroying homes, hospitals, evacuation routes.
You look for anything that supports your hatred of the U.S. and your admiration for poor, poor Putin, the richest man in the world.
I look at all sides, Diane. You refuse to look at anything that contradicts your own. You might pause and wonder why that is.
I look at facts and evidence, Dienne. Try it sometime. You don’t recognize your own biases.
Dienne, you are right about my views. I am not totally objective. I love America, because it provided a refuge for my parents and grandparents. Otherwise they would have ended up in Hitler’s ovens. I am not uncritical of America. I hated the Vietnam War. I hate racism.
I don’t agree with Chris Hedges about the U.S. and NATO. The Soviet Union was a brutal dictatorship. Dissenters were sent to Siberia or killed. I have read many histories of the USSR. No freedom of speech. Terrible repression. Artists sent to gulags. Stalin was a monster.
I visited Russia, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Romania, and Yugoslavia before the USSR collapsed. The stores were empty, but high-level Party members had access to special shops that had plenty of food. People stood in long lines on the street to buy a tomato or a piece of fruit. Ordinary people led lives of privation. Censorship was prevalent.
There was a brief period after the USSR folded when it seemed that Russia might join the modern world and have a normal society. But the country was desperately corrupt. The privatization created paths to unimaginable riches for the robber barons who were friends of Yeltsin, then Putin, who was chosen by Yeltsin as his heir.
Why did so many former Soviet satellites join NATO? No one forced them to. They wanted protection from Russia, which they did not trust. They feared that Russia might resume its old authoritarian ways. They were right. Putin is a monster. He has multiple mansions and villas. He is the richest of all the oligarchs. Those who challenge him end up dead or imprisoned. Critics are poisoned, even when they live in England. When he first came to power in 1999, he had to deal with unrest in Chechnya. He did to Chechnya what he is doing now to Ukraine: he reduced its cities to rubble. He flattened it with no regard for human life.
I know there is nothing I can say that will change your mind. I am open to criticizing the U.S. for its flaws, mistakes, criminal actions, cruel misdeeds. But I am an American and I want America to live up to its ideals. I will spend my last days advocating for improvement, progress, equality, justice, equity. And I thank God my family escaped to America where I can speak my mind, write what I choose, criticize those in power, and do so without fear.
I think that dienne assumes that the outrage expressed here comes from a place tinged with self righteousness. In that, I believe she is wrong. Most posters here are well aware of our many flaws and past mistakes. I have made many mistakes in my lifetime and done some things I am not proud of. I still struggle with that knowledge, but I also know that that my history informs my response to my life now in a valuable way. I do not understand the position that because the U.S. has blown it (royally) in the past we are forever banned from recognizing the injustices of today and acting on that realization.
You are so right. The assumption of various critics is that the U.S. has no moral standing to criticize Putin’s invasion of Ukraine because of the many things we have done as a nation that were wrong. The same logic applied in 1941 would have prevented us from fighting against Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany. If we had listened to that advice, Europe would have been conquered by Hitler and Asia would be controlled by the Japanese military.
Anyone who refuses to criticize Putin no matter how many civilians he bombs does not see all sides.
By the way, dienne77 was far more critical of “the squad” today in another post than she has ever been of Putin!
Putin is bombing hospitals and laying waste to Ukraine and today dienne77 has no problem attacking Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman, and Cori Bush as cosplayers secretly in bed with the right wing.
But about Putin – not a word of criticism.
Can anyone really be this deluded who isn’t on the far right? I wonder if she thinks the election was “stolen” from Trump, too?
Diane, your statement beginning with “you are right about my views” is one of the most informed and moving pieces I have ever read. Thank you. I completely agree and could not have said this better.
Anyone who can’t criticize Putin as well as the US is NOT “looking at all sides”. Because if they were looking at all sizes, Putin would not be excluded from criticism.
I have no idea if Chris Hedges believes that Putin can do no wrong, but it is clear that dienne77 believes that. So do many far right folks and many trolls.
And anyone who isn’t condemning the INTENTIONAL targeting of civilians in Ukraine — something that dioenne77 condemns all the time EXCEPT when it is Putin is doing the targeting of civilians – is as biased as they come.
Putin could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue — or bomb maternity hospitals – and certain folks would still say that they are just being unbiased when they refuse to criticize Putin.
Why can’t dienne77 criticize the US and criticize Putin? Why is Putin completely above criticism?
Anyone understand this? Because anyone who would say that Hitler was justified in massacring millions of Jews because of the terrible Treaty of Versailles is not “unbiased” at all. They just didn’t like Jews. And I think dienne77 has a thing against Ukraines. What else can explain why she isn’t concerned about the civilians there one bit?
What is dienne77’s solution except to blame the US and say Putin did nothing wrong, everyone else did?
Dienne, I agree, anyone who pays attention agrees, that the United States has committed horrific atrocities. The Reagan Era covert war in El Salvador is a vivid and horrific example. The Second Iraq War is another. After the world reaction to the atrocities in Ukraine, perhaps such ugliness will be more difficult, in the future, for any country to carry out.
But taking the longer view, looking forward, do you really think that the brutal, totalitarian regime of Vladimir Putin in Russia is a better model than that provided by the United States, Canada, and Europe TODAY? Which is more likely to evolve into a sane Social Democracy like those already found in various northern European countries? One in which a person who voices dissent, like you, can do so freely, without fear of having the current instantiation of Stalin’s NKVD show up at your door in the middle of the night? or of being imprisoned for decades on trumped-up charges? or being poisoned? or being gunned down in the street? as in Russia, today, right now.
Putin was praised in Russia for having installed as president of the United States a wanna-be totalitarian–a guy who wanted us out of NATO, who was furious that his Secretary of Homeland Security wouldn’t simply shoot asylum seekers at our border, who tried and failed to use our military against protestors calling for an end to systemic racism, a serial rapist and racist cretin who traitorously tried to overthrow a free election here–all in the Putin mold. Call me crazy, but I think there’s a stark and easy choice to make there, between the two models, Putinist fascism and democracy. I know which side I am on. To borrow a phrase from William Blake, the screams of the children of Ukraine run in blood down Putin’s palace walls.
Dienne 77, whether you agree with Chris Hedges (or Matt Taibi, Aaron Mate, Glenn Greenwald, Noam Chomsky, Jeremy Scahill, or late Stephen Cohen, etc.) on US/NATO role, that has nothing to do with what Putin’s Russia is doing now.
You can’t change the bottomline because that is undeniable fact. You are merely giving us the links without even bother clarifying / articulating your point at all. Sure, the US/NATO has a serious problem on foreign policy. Yes, there are corporate media and pundits who are making a reckless call for No Fly Zone without even thinking about its ramifications. But that doesn’t deflect anyone here from facing the fact that the mad man chose to become his own bastard. It doesn’t mater how awful US intelligence has made a mess on Europe, Middle East or South America(or would ever continue to do so).You can’t get it undone.
Dienne-
If you like Putin, a Yale historian has a prediction that may be of interest, the continued war in Ukraine will make Russia a “vassal state of China.”
I don’t buy the leftist line that the Cold War was simply a ruse to fatten the wallets of defense contractors. Strong force is necessary to keep the rule of law countries from succumbing to psychotic dictators. NATO is the only thing standing between us and Orwell’s 1984.
Ponderosa, I’m old enough to remember the horrors of the Soviet Union.
I don’t really read Hedges’ piece as giving anyone the moral high ground, despite the Dr Strangelove talk and the listing of US sins. He’s stripping aside the moral justifications and laying out the pieces the way they look on a war chessboard– a warning based on past experience, showing where this is headed. What I don’t entirely understand is his acceptance of Russian hegemony over Eastern Europe as a given, despite the collapse of the USSR. His idea seems to be that the rest of the world should just stand back and watch Russsia grab back its unwilling former satellite states by force, and wait for the whole thing to play out again. ?
Ginny,
An excellent point. All of the former Soviet satellites are helpless against a Russian invasion. Ukraine used to have the third largest stockpile of nuclear weapons in the world but agreed to give them up in exchange for acceptance by Russia and the U.S. to recognize Ukraine sovereignty. Putin says that agreement was signed before his time so he doesn’t acknowledge it. He says Ukraine is part of Russia and does not have the right to exist. He loves Ukraine so much that he is knocking down every building he can and annihilating it’s population.
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I have been listening to how the Russians used (and perfected) the same tactics in Syria at the behest of Assad. Part of the problem in Ukraine is finding troops who do not have relatives living there. I guess that is why we are hearing about black ops contractors and Syrian militiamen being recruited. it’s easier to obliterate people when they are not family.
A gut-wrenching aspect of all this, speduktr.
Putin’s Road to War
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/putins-road-to-war/
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/putins-road-to-war/
What’s happening is awful. Yet, this is also what America has done in Iraq and many other countries. This is not to excuse Putin. His actions are awful. In this crisis, there are no angels – Not even Biden, Zelensky, Johnson or the rest of NATO.
If my heart bleeds, it is for the ordinary citizens whose lives are ruined
Zelensky is as good a human being as there is.
What George Tenet, Bush, Cheney, a Congress that did not stand up to them and, a media that glorified what the U.S. did in Iraq is one of the darkest chapters in American history.
There are far more expectations that America will adhere to high ethical and moral standards than there are for Russian, Chinese or Syrian leaders.
Biden and NATO leaders are decent people. Trump and his followers are not.
Trudeau said you don’t compare a man to God almighty, you compare him to his opponent.
https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/prosecute_putin_loc/
Statements of disinformation… opinions from experts that diminished Ukraine’s value were made/crafted by specific Americans. Those Americans and their links should be the subject of journalists’ reporting. Putin’s confirmation bias for the invasion of Ukraine and the military action’s continuation may well have been/ being stoked by spin tanks and billionaire-funded influencers in the U.S.
Since eastern Europe is neither the beginning nor the end of authoritarianism’s takeover, the following should not be ignored (1) Politico’s 2021 article about the Atlantic Council’s conflict over Ukraine (2) Charles Koch Institute’s poll a few months ago establishing that American inaction in Ukraine could be expected (3) The early tweets about the Ukrainian invasion made by prominent anti-CRT influencers
Putin’s goal to foment a race war to destabilize the U.S. should not be ignored in making the links.
Linda, do you have a link to the Politico article? Couldn’t find by googling on this info.
Murder Versus War
This one is easy. If you kill one person by inexpensive means, that’s murder, and it’s a terrible crime. However, for obvious reasons, it’s not considered murder if done as the only practically available means of defense against home invasion, theft, or potentially extreme or even lethal attack. In contrast, if you kill a lot of people using very costly means, for any reason whatsoever, that’s war, and it’s NOT a crime. It’s glorious. Yes, there is talk about killing loads of people in another country being a crime of aggression under international law, but that’s a rule that’s pretty much ignored, and the organization that promotes that quaint notion, the UN, has all the efficacy of a cotton-candy doorstop. So, the lesson for would-be killers is clear: if you’re going to do it, go big and use expensive tanks and missiles and airplanes and terrified teenagers wearing matching outfits.
From The Devil’s Stylebook
A plea to UN delegates to the General Assembly: Authorize a UN force to close the skies above Ukraine.
That is a good idea. Is there a negotiated settlement that Ukraine will accept? They have skin in the game. Does China believe the west will use nukes if Taiwan is threatened? Same with Russia if Estonia or Latvi are attacked.
I feel sure that Ukraine would accept a settlement in which there is a ceasefire and Russian troops withdraw. In a just world, Russia would pay to rebuild what they wantonly destroyed.