The Washington Post published a remorseful article about the negative effects of 20 years of was in Iraq and Afghanistan. Hindsight is sometimes useful. Many books will be written about “lessons learned” from these past 20 years of warfare.
There’s a scene in the 2014 film “American Sniper” that sums up the country’s post-9/11 war lust. Chris Kyle, the late U.S. Navy SEAL played by Bradley Cooper, watches a newscast of the twin towers crumbling before his eyes. The camera fixes on Kyle’s steely yet stunned face as he holds his shaken wife, before cutting to an image of him in full military gear, glaring through the scope of his sniper rifle in the middle of an Iraqi town. (He goes on to gun down a woman aiding Iraqi insurgents.)
The film, which some critics panned as proto-fascist agitprop, spends no time interrogating this implied connection between the events of 9/11 and the American decision to “preemptively” invade Iraq less than two years later to topple the regime of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. Neither did much of the American public or political establishment that got swept up in the George W. Bush administration’s rush to punish “evil-doers.” A Washington Post poll in September 2003 found that close to 7 in 10 Americans believed that it was at least “likely” that Hussein was directly involved in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
That, of course, proved to be preposterous, as was much of the case Bush and his allies made about the imminent threat posed by the Iraqi regime’s phantom weapons of mass destruction. Animated by a neoconservative zeal to oust enemy regimes and wield American might to make right — and unhindered by the bulk of the Washington press corps — the Bush administration plunged the United States and its coalition partners into a war and eventual occupation that would reshape the political map of the Middle East, distract from America’s parallel intervention in Afghanistan and provoke new cycles of chaos and violence.
The first couple of years after 9/11 marked “an era where the United States made major strategic errors,” Vali Nasr, a professor of international affairs at Johns Hopkins University’s School of Advanced International Studies, told Today’s WorldView. “Its vision was clouded by anger and revenge.”
But what if the United States had opted against invading Iraq? The decision to oust Hussein, even more so than the invasion of Afghanistan in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, was an unprovoked war of choice that, on one hand, sealed off a range of other policy options available to Washington’s strategists and, on the other, set in motion events that fundamentally altered the region. It’s impossible to unwind what the Bush administration unleashed, but indulge us at Today’s WorldView as we puzzle through just a few elements of this counterfactual proposition.
First and foremost, there’s the Iraqi death toll. The Watson Institute at Brown University calculates that 184,382 to 207,156 Iraqi civilians were directly killed in war-related violence between the start of the American invasion in March 2003 through October 2019. But the researchers suggest the real figure may well be several times higher.
Even considering Hussein’s own long record of brutality, it is difficult to envision a future of greater suffering for the Iraqi people had the United States not swept him from power, argued Sinan Antoon, a New York-based Iraqi poet and author.
“No matter what — and I say this as someone who was opposed to Saddam’s regime since childhood and wrote his first novel about life under dictatorship — had the regime remained in power, tens of thousands of Iraqis would still be alive today, and children in Fallujah would not be born with congenital defects every day,” Antoon told Today’s WorldView, alluding to the impact of U.S. forces allegedly using rounds of depleted uranium in their battles across Iraq.
Antoon added that we also would not have seen the rise of the Islamic State had the United States not invaded — a conviction shared by former president Barack Obama and echoed by myriad experts. “In the near term, the Iraqi political order probably would not have collapsed and created a void that nonstate or quasi-state actors could fill,” wrote international relations scholars Hal Brands and Peter Feaver in a 2017 study.
“The Sunni-Shia cleavage that has made Iraq so difficult to govern still would have been present,” they continued, “but without the violence, political chaos and Sunni marginalization of the post-invasion period, that cleavage would have remained in a less combustible state, and terrorist groups such as [al-Qaeda in Iraq] and [the Islamic State] would not have found such fertile ground for recruiting.”
Other paths were possible. In 2002, Shibley Telhami, a veteran pollster affiliated with the Brookings Institution and a professor at the University of Maryland, was part of a group of Middle East scholars based in the United States who opposed the Bush administration’s drumbeat to war in Iraq.
“Bush had a chance to build global coalitions, strengthen international norms and institutions, focus on the threat from al-Qaeda, reshape relations in the Gulf region and use domestic and international support to end the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, which, before 9/11, was the central grievance against the United States in the Middle East,” Telhami told Today’s WorldView.
Instead, he added, “Bush chose a policy of unilateralism,” pursuing a war that ravaged the Middle Eastern country, stoked sectarian violence and extremist militancy and “ended the balance of power between Iran and Iraq.” Iran’s gain from seeing its longtime foe fall in Baghdad, in turn, would reset the geopolitical calculations of Gulf Arab states, which became “so insecure that they embarked on destabilizing policies of their own, including the Yemen war,” said Telhami.
In 2003, the Iraqi regime still faced asphyxiating international sanctions. Had those eventually weakened — various countries apart from the United States were eager to bring Iraq out from the cold — the country’s youths would have been better linked to the world and an entrenched regime could have faced its own Arab Spring uprising.
Rasha al-Aqeedi of the Newlines Institute for Strategy and Policy, a Washington think tank, suggests an “Iraqi spring” would still have been brutally put down by the country’s Baathist government. “Saddam would have passed away and [his son] Qusay would have become president — an Iraqi version of [Syrian President Bashar] al-Assad, basically,” she told Today’s WorldView, imagining a milder end for the Iraqi dictator who was hanged in 2006. The status quo in Baghdad would have been “as stable as an authoritarian Baathist state can be.”
Alternatively, there could have been a steady internal unraveling, with the United States in a stronger position to support democratic and economic development, Amy Hawthorne, research director at the Project on Middle East Democracy, told Today’s WorldView. “Iraq, under punishing international sanctions and totalitarian rule for another decade, would have become a failed state, with parts of the south and Iraqi Kurdistan falling outside Saddam’s control.”
Instead, by 2007, the United States was compelled to deploy a “surge” of its troops to combat an Iraqi insurgency it would never quite quell. For multiple reasons, from feckless leadership to sectarian enmities, the government that the United States helped prop up in Baghdad would make a catalogue of its own mistakes. The occupation swiftly became a parable for American blundering and hubris.
“The U.S. was barely keeping its head above water during the surge,” Nasr said. “The aura of its power was gone.”
Ishaan Tharoor is a columnist on the foreign desk of The Washington Post, where he authors the Today’s WorldView newsletter and column. He previously was a senior editor and correspondent at Time magazine, based first in Hong Kong and later in New York.
What if ?
What if green were blue?
What if black were white?
What if false were true?
What if wrong were right?
What if wet were dry?
What if night were day?
What if earth were sky?
What if go were stay?
What if yes were no?
What if left were right?
What if stop were go?
What if dark were light?
What if what? were why?
What if where? were how?
Why if pigs could fly?
What if so could cow?
A Cajun version:
If if wuz a skiff
Den we’d all be on a boat ride
If I were a hammer
And you were a nail
I’d be in the slammer
For pounding your tail
And to continue a previous conversation
If I were a squirrel
And you were a nut
I’d give you a whirl
To see where to cut
Mafia version
If I was a stiff
We’d all be on a hearse ride
Jewish version: If my grandmother had wheels, she would be a baby carriage.
If I were a carpenter
And you were a lady
Would you marry me anyway
Would you have my baby?
A Robert Frost version:
The Peace Not Taken, by George W Bush
Two roads diverged in a Baghdad hood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the UN vote;
Then took the other, unjust for sure,
And having perhaps the better claim,
‘Cause WMDs and I WANTED WAR;
Though as for that the Tehran there
Had warred them already, just the same,
And both that morning equally lay
On ground no boots had trodden black.
Oh, I kept our allies for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a hood, and I—
I took the one less pondered by,
And that made the costliest difference
If my grandmother had wheels! OMG, soooo funny!
And SomeDam–some of your best!!
What if? (2)
What if wet were dry?
What if night were day?
What if earth were sky?
What if go were stay?
What if yes were no?
What if left were right?
What if stop were go?
What if dark were light?
What if false were true?
Then naught would really change
Cuz things in mirror view
Are simply rearranged
6.4 TRILLION Dollar War On Terror Budget Re-Imagined
For Military in 2021 Alone, United States taxpayers are paying $740 billion.
Here’s what those tax dollars could have paid for instead:
Trade-Offs
edit ➜ 84.24 million Public Housing Units for 1 Year, or
edit ➜ 16.94 million Jobs That Pay $15 Per Hour with Benefits for 1 Year, or
edit ➜ 18.97 billion Coronavirus Vaccines for 1 Year, or
edit ➜ 217.65 billion N95 Respirator Masks for 1 Year, or
edit ➜ 9.16 million Elementary School Teachers for 1 Year, or
edit ➜ 9.99 million Clean Energy Jobs Created for 1 Year, or
edit ➜ 20.76 million Head Start Slots for Children for 4 Years, or
edit ➜ 71.62 million Military Veterans Receiving VA Medical Care for 1 Year, or
edit ➜ 21.01 million Scholarships for University Students for 4 Years, or
edit ➜ 312.14 million Children Receiving Low-Income Healthcare for 1 Year, or
edit ➜ 1.27 billion Households with Wind Power for 1 Year, or
edit ➜ 207.87 million Adults Receiving Low-Income Healthcare for 1 Year, or
edit ➜ 1.19 billion Households with Solar Electricity for 1 Year
https://www.nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/
Unlimited funds for counterproductive wars
Nothing for the poor
Sounds like the United States I have come to know.
Counterfactual
The trillions we spent
Deposing Saddam
Would best have been sent
To folks here at home
For building new schools
And helping the poor
Instead of for tools
To prosecute war
Yes. As a history teacher and citizen and activist, I say it is definitely good to review “what if’s,” such as IF we’d not invaded Iraq. Another big what if is, What if we’d gotten all the votes counted in 2000? Does anyone think Gore would have done all the dumb/evil things Bush did? We don’t hear or think enough about that actual stolen election. What if Nader had supported Gore? Too many voters want to be “pure” in their actions and voting. Our two-party system requires us to do what W Bush said he didn’t do, nuance. We have to, to avoid repeating such tragedies as the invasion of Iraq.
Pls recall that after 9/11 when Bush lied about WMDs and Saddam’s involvement in 9/11 many of us marched and protested, but Al Gore announced “Bush is my commander.” Bush, and his cronies ginned up the national sadness over 9/11 into vengeance and steered that revenge for neocon policies which made the war industries fabulously rich and politically powerful. When Obama came in after declaring the wars “stupid,” he escalated with his notorious “surge.” Democrats were part of the problem in those events.
Exactly, Ira! Profiteers on human misery and destruction on both sides of the aisle. Freaking war criminals, all.
“American Sniper” was directed by Clint Eastwood, a talented director and a conservative known for “talking to empty chairs.” This may very well be why the movie may gloss over the “why” of invading Iraq. Some say we invaded Iraq because GW wanted to finish what his father had started. Others say Cheney convinced GW that Iraq was to blame for 9/11. What is generally accepted is that invading Iraq was an enormous mistake that made a fortune for the many military contractors.
Biden intends to declassify materials related to 9/11. It is common knowledge that the Bush family has a long standing relationship with the Saudis. If documents on 9/11 are released to the public, it may be possible to better understand who was responsible for the attack on the homeland.
Iraq was blood for oil. Afghanistan became blood for opiates. Follow the money.
I don’t recall that we got oil from Iraq. Just blood for blood.
In a sense, it was blood for blood, but private companies were given a big opportunity. Saddam Hussein lit the wells on fire to try to keep private contractors away. Betsy DeVos’ brother Erik Prince was there with Blackwater, contracted by the government to guard the wells after the fires. In 2007, the government we installed made a law allowing local oil companies to contract with foreign oil companies. So, we’re still there. Exxon, Occidental, and BP are still there.
Clint Eastwood should stick to something he actually knows about: Westerns and Dirty Hairy — and empty chairs.
Very sobering. I’d like to reblog.
You can repost anything I post here.
The Iraq war vote breakdown: Senate – vote of 77 to 23, and the House of Representatives by a vote of 296 to 133. 156 members of Congress from 36 states voted against the war.
In the case of Afghanistan, Rep. Barbara Lee was the lone voice of dissent against the war.
From democracynowdotcom: California Democratic Congressmember Barbara Lee, her voice trembling with emotion as she spoke from the House floor, would be the sole member of Congress to vote against the war in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. The final vote was 420 to 1. end quote
In terms of the Oct. 2002 vote to authorize the use of military force against Iraq:
In the House of Representatives 96.4% of Republicans vote for the war.
In the House of Representatives, 60.3% of Democrats voted AGAINST the war.
In the Senate, 98% of Republicans voted to authorize the use of force. 58% of Democrats voted to authorize the use of force.
But the September 2001 vote after 9/11 regarding Afghanistan was near unanimous and Barbara Lee has rightly been noted as the brave vote who saw that it was wrong.
Robert Byrd, of all people, was vehemently against the war on Iraq.
A snippet of his eloquent speech, 19 March 2003: But, today I weep for my country. I have watched the events of recent months with a heavy, heavy heart. No more is the image of America one of strong, yet benevolent peacekeeper. The image of America has changed. Around the globe, our friends mistrust us, our word is disputed, our intentions are questioned.
Instead of reasoning with those with whom we disagree, we demand obedience or threaten recrimination. Instead of isolating Saddam Hussein, we seem to have isolated ourselves. We proclaim a new doctrine of preemption which is understood by few and feared by many. We say that the United States has the right to turn its firepower on any corner of the globe which might be suspect in the war on terrorism. We assert that right without the sanction of any international body. As a result, the world has become a much more dangerous place.
We flaunt our superpower status with arrogance. We treat U.N. Security Council members like ingrates who offend our princely dignity by lifting their heads from the carpet. Valuable alliances are split. After war has ended, the United States will have to rebuild much more than the country of Iraq. We will have to rebuild America’s image around the globe.
The case this Administration tries to make to justify its fixation with war is tainted by charges of falsified documents and circumstantial evidence. We cannot convince the world of the necessity of this war for one simple reason. This is a war of choice.
There is no credible information to connect Saddam Hussein to 9/11. The twin towers fell because a world-wide terrorist group, al-Qaida, with cells in over 60 nations, struck at our wealth and our influence by turning our own planes into missiles, one of which would likely have slammed into the dome of this beautiful Capitol except for the brave sacrifice of the passengers on board. end quote
Reblogged this on The Soulful Veteran's Blog and commented:
This post is about the wrong choices a U.S.President and Congress made soon after 9/11 – the invasion of Iraq.
Outstanding. The decision to wage war on Iraq is one of the stupidest ever made. And unfortunately, the WAR CRIMINALS who pushed us into this breathtakingly counterproductive and cruel nightmare were never held responsible.
When people start talking about going to war, ask yourself, how many children is THIS worth? Because that’s the price that always gets paid.
While we are considering counterfactuals, what if we had invaded Texas and Florida instead?
I’d bet we would have had a much better chance of freeing and bringing democracy to millions of people, especially women in the case of Texas.
Regime Change in Texas
What if we’d invaded Texas?
Deposed the Bush regime
Before he had the chance to hex us
With Cheney and his scheme?
All our hexes come from Texas