Charles Siler had excellent credentials to work in the privatization movement. In this article, he explains why he switched sides. To learn more about Charles Siler, watch this video in which I interviewed him.
Confessions of a Former Privatizer Why I Don’t Want to Eradicate Public Schools Anymore
I spent years working to privatize public schools. I realized that I was wrong, and am now proud to call myself a public education advocate.
By Charles Siler
Nearly all my life I believed public schools were obstacles to success, achievement, and social mobility for individuals and our society as a whole. And it wasn’t just schools. This was my belief about nearly all government activity. I saw government agencies as little more than hives of self-serving bureaucrats looking for ways to increase their budgets by robbing more and more money from taxpayers, all while standing in the way of innovation and success.
My view of government, including “government schools,” was in many ways a reflection of my upbringing. I was raised by evangelical Christians, with a father who descended from slave owners and who attended schools in Mississippi before the state had fully integrated them. The words “[Robert E.] Lee surrendered, but I didn’t!”were emblazoned on a trinket that hung off the family car keys. This tongue-in-cheek joke that wasn’t entirely a joke captured the ethos of our familial and social circles.
As we saw it, a strong government meant outsiders imposing limitations on us and got in the way of people living their lives. A strong federal government, after all, had freed our slaves. That same strong federal government told us how to run our elections and forced us to integrate our schools.
I left home and joined the military before heading to college. By that time my anti-government views had transitioned from general critiques steeped in the Lost Cause myth I’d grown up with to economic and social policies that I could back up with evidence and reasoned philosophy. I was drawn to libertarianism, so I headed to George Mason University to study economics. It was a fitting choice, as the department had been designed to develop young talent who could recast the Republican Party’s Southern Strategy, including the school choice fight against desegregation into clinical academic language, bolstered by dispassionate “evidence.”
I was only 30 years old but I’d already had a lifetime of conditioning, some I was born into, much I’d sought out on my own. I was convinced that people were their most liberated and most able to define their own lives when they were given as much individual freedom as possible without the intervention of governments or the “whims” of majority rule. A common refrain I heard and was fond of repeating was that “Absolute democracy is four wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner.” Unions were just as much part of the problem as far as I was concerned, as they enabled people to form large groups and decide what others could or couldn’t do.
To me, public school represented everything that was wrong with our society. Our K-12 schools were a massive government bureaucracy staffed by union members that children were compelled to attend and adults were forced to pay for with their taxes. If I was going to help make the country a better place for everyone, I had to pitch in and help take down public schools.
By now you’ve probably noticed that I brought a certain arrogance to my mission. That’s because I was convinced that I was working to make people better off. But I was also frustrated by the positive opinions that so many people seemed to have about public education as well as government programs, including Social Security and Medicare. People didn’t understand what was truly best for them. And that arrogance defined my work and the privatization movement more generally.
Even as I pursued my mission with zeal, I was beginning to experience doubts about whether the policies I was pushing really were improving people’s lives. For one thing, the “evidence” that I was so fond of pointing to when I argued with public school defenders was actually pretty hard to find. That’s because pro-privatization groups like the ones I worked for and alongside fight with incredible vigor to block any efforts to collect data on privatization programs. When data was available, I could see for myself that the programs I was selling rarely seemed to produce academic benefits for students, even as they increased inequity. I knew that data could always be cherry-picked to make pro-privatization arguments—it was what I did for a living—but it was increasingly hard for me to deny what I could see with my own eyes: privatization is bad for students, for communities, and economies.
Confronting the reality of the work I’d been doing in conservative/libertarian policy circles wasn’t easy. Fortunately I had a network of friends who supported me through my crisis of conscience. But it was a chance encounter that really pressed me to deepen my reexamination of my beliefs and would lead me to become an advocate for public schools. One evening I dropped by a public debate on privatization in order to catch up with a former colleague who advocated for school vouchers. I ended up running into Dawn Penich-Thacker, my former supervisor when I’d worked in public affairs for the military who’d since gone on to co-found Save Our Schools Arizona.
More than a decade had passed since we’d worked together, and here we were on opposite sides of school voucher expansion in Arizona. That encounter marked the resumption of my friendship with Dawn. It also forced me to engage in a much more critical examination of school privatization than I’d ever done before. Here was someone who I liked and respected, and who believed passionately that privatizing schools wasn’t empowering parents at all, and had reams of data to back up her argument. Study after study showed a lack of academic improvement for students in school privatization programs, school privatization programs increased segregation, they increased discrimination, they were more succeptible to fraud, and so on. I had no choice but to admit that I’d been wrong.
I’d reached a turning point in my life. When Arizona legislators passed a universal school measure, something I would have cheered as a privatization advocate, I joined the opposition. I signed up with Save Our Schools Arizona, becoming one of the countless volunteers who helped defeat the voucher measure at the polls in 2018 by a 2-to-1 margin. I also did what I could to support Save Our Schools’ policy efforts, using the lobbying and communications skills I’d honed as a privatization advocate on behalf of public education.
Working with SOSAZ was profoundly inspiring to me. It is an incredible organization of volunteers, and seeing so many people pouring so much of themselves into fighting for their communities has galvanized me to become more deeply involved. It has also been incredibly frustrating to encounter the political machine I used to be a part of. The movement to privatize schools and indeed all public goods can feel overwhelming with its persistence, its reach, and its political influence.
Despite this, I have a lot of hope for the future. The politicians that the privatizers bankroll have gone too far, and people are getting more engaged, not to mention enraged, as a result. In other words, I am seeing cracks in the privatization army that I used to be part of. And as grassroots resistance gets stronger, the movement is gasping for wins. They’re also having to attack democracy itself in a more coordinated effort just to hold onto the gains they’ve made. Sensing that the door is closing, they are grasping for as much as they can before it’s too late. That’s why there is so much frenetic activity at the state level right now. These are the desperate reaches of a movement in crisis.
I’m convinced that the pendulum is set to swing back in support of public institutions and public schools. While the fight is exhausting and often dispiriting, this is actually an exciting time to be an advocate for public schools. Diverse communities are more engaged than ever and are helping shape conversations about the future of public education. People are paying more and more attention to local elections, including school board races.
There are many of you reading this who have been fighting for public schools way longer, and more effectively, than I have. While I can’t know the exhaustion and despair many of you must feel at this point, I hope that you see the light ahead. Hopefully together we can turn the tide on school privatization. I’m proud to finally join you in fighting for our communities and our future.
Charles Siler formerly worked for the pro-voucher Goldwater Institute in Arizona. He now advises pro-public education groups and candidates.
“People didn’t understand what was truly best for them.”
The Evangelical philosophy in a nutshell.
In that sense, people like Bill Gates are also Evangelical , regardless of any religious beliefs they might have.
But Melinda knows better.😀
Melinda’s schooling was conservative religious- 50,000,000 adult members in the church- a church that has a single hierarchy. Bill said that he “participates in the church” that his wife attends.
I was referring to the recent divorce.
Melinda doesn’t know better enough to get out of the neocolonial B.M. Foundation that attacks public schools and helps B and M avoid paying taxes.
She just knows better than to stay married to a guy who met with Jeffrey Epstein many times and wrote one time that the underage girl he was with was so beautiful that he just had to stay there with her late into the night.
Gates’s comment was about the former Swedish model and former Epstein girlfriend who was there–the mother of the teenaged girl.
Let us not forget Bill Gates’ friendship with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.
“After a great deal of thought, we have decided to end interference in other people’s lives…Ha ha ha ..May Fools. — Bill and Melinda Gates
Cannot say that Melinda would be thrilled about her husband staying late with a model, age notwithstanding.
Epstein was a pedophilanthropist.
Philaderopist.
harvard’s newspaper wrote about the Epstein connection to the school- damning- intellectual prostitutes willingly ignore (or, prey) with abandon.
One of those caught up in the web was on an academic committee with “ethics” in the title.
MIT and Harvard were deeply entangled with Epstein.
We won’t ever know the true extent of the entanglement because both schools circled the wagons to whitewash their involvement and make it seem it was simply the result of an honest failure by university officials to oversee a few misguided individuals (like Ito, who effectively took the fall for everything that happened at MIT)
And the problem of university acceptance of funds from highly “questionable” sources extends far beyond Epstein. Just one example: MIT has accepted well over $100 million from the climate change denying Koch brothers (both Alumni of MIT)
Catholic University of America accepted millions from the Koch’s for what critics describe as programs/ courses in social Darwinism.
Evangelism
Evangelists are always right
They know it from the start
To them, the world is day and night
They know it all by heart
“As we saw it, a strong government meant outsiders imposing limitations on us and got in the way of people living their lives. A strong federal government, after all, had freed our slaves.”
The real message of this point of view has always been “governments that limit white Christian men from doing whatever they want to non-white, non-Christian, men, are communist governments, whether they do it within or beyond the United States.”
That’s a heavy weight to get out from under. Good for him.
A good analysis of this, I think, can be found in Jimmy Carter’s book, An Hour Before Daylight.
It’s also a pretty good take on the attitude I was surrounded by, growing up rural—so widespread it was barely conceived of as political or remotely controversial. Part of a chip-on-the-shoulder individualism, and general suspicion of “outsiders.”
“A very popular error: having the courage of one’s convictions; rather it is a matter of having the courage for an attack on one’s convictions.” ~ Friedrich Nietzsche (1895)
Conviction of One’s Courage
Everybody knows
Conviction of one’s courage
Is where official goes
In order to discourage
I was hoping you would weigh in on this, SomeDAM.
Yeah, there a problem with strong convictions. As Max Born says,
The belief that there is only one truth and that oneself is in possession of it seems to me the root of all the evil that is in the world
Strong Convictions
Strong convictions
Prison time
Cause restrictions
Of the mind
Only some
Like MLK
Overcome
Conviction way
I don’t think one can belong to the current “education reform movement” and also support “public education” in any real sense. As it is they’ve had to completely redefine the term to mean “publicly funded”.
They now have “debates” like this:
“The 74
The74
You’re invited: Join The 74 and
@ppi
for a debate tomorrow at 1 pm ET about who should hold schools accountable for their performance ”
This debate is basically “should public education exist?” Ed reform’s answer? “No”. No longer a public good. 100% consumer purchase.
I don’t know if they intended to end up opposed to the whole concept of public education but they are absolutely at that point. They no longer promote or defend any of it.
I think the concept they started with made this result inevitable. “Choice” was always a commercial, consumer frame. They abandoned any public interest easily.
I worry a lot about kids in existing public schools. I simply do not see that these folks support them in any way, and there are many, many more children in PUBLIC schools than in the ed reform privatized systems. We’re hiring them to run and set policy for public systems they oppose ideologically. It never, ever works out well for the students in the unfashionable public schools.
Let’s just review ed reform’s “response” to the pandemic. They lobbied for vouchers all over the country, they demanded public school students take standardized tests, and they launched a ridiculous war on “critical race theory” in public schools. Hey, thanks! Good work. Tell me again how this is “all about the kids”. UNLESS those kids happen to attend one of the public schools these people hope to eradicate.
There is never any upside for students who attend public schools. It is 100% negative as to them. This has been the playbook for 20 years. There’s not even an attempt to offer anything positive to students or families in public schools. They’re not even considered important enough to address, other than throwaway lines at the end of ed reform op eds on how they will grudgingly allow that “district schools” must exist until they complete the transformation to their preferred privatized systems.
Why can’t we have PUBLIC school advocates? Ed reformers advocate for charters and private schools- there are thousands of them and that’s ALL they do. Shouldn’t public school students also get advocates? Why is this not allowed?
If I accept that the “ed reform movement” work full time promoting and advocating on behalf of students who attend the schools they prefer, private and charter schools, then why won’t they accept that public school students should ALSO have advocates?
Fordham lobbies the Ohio legislature for more funding for charters. Public school advocates can’t do the same? Why not? Why would I depend on a DC charter/voucher lobbying shop to promote the interests of students who attend public schools? Have they done that? Can they point to how they’ve benefited students who attend public schools? Because I’ve had kids in the Ohio public school system their entire tenure and I can’t find a single benefit for public schools.
We’re paying public employees not to HARM our schools as they pursue their ideological mission? Why?
Siler does a good job outlining the privatization game plan to dismantle public education. While the tide may be turning, there continues to be a great deal of pro-privatization support among the billionaires that can afford to purchase public policy in both the federal and state governments. Public schools need an uprising of loyal public school supporters to speak up and defend our essential public institution.
Reasoning with the Unreasonable
Reason only works
With reasonable folks
It doesn’t work with jerks
And doesn’t work with jokes
It doesn’t work on those
With evil moneyvations
Unreasonable to suppose
That reason rules relations
Eli Broad was the king of the unreasonable. He bragged about being unreasonable, like Former President bragged about being unreasonable. I read an op-ed this morning in the anti-union, pro-privatization LA Times this morning heaping praise on Broad for being an unreasonable boss, as if having impossible goals makes people more, instead of less, productive, as if making a law that 100% of students in the United States will be labeled “proficient” on standardized tests by 2014 — or their schools will be taken from them — was a good idea. One unreasonable billionaire bites the dust, hundreds of them to overcome. We shall…
Setting impossible goal demotivates workers.
Broadly Speaking
Eli, Broadly speaking
Was really quite a pain
In asterisk, with freaking
Unreasonable brain
So true, SomeDAM
“Nina Rees
Supporting public charter schools does not take money away from the children who attend traditional public school districts nor does it hurt children in district schools”
They’ve completely moved the goalposts. The sales pitch for ed reform is now they will not deliberately HARM students who attend public schools.
They no longer even pretend to work for public school students. Hire these folks and the absolute best you will get will be they will claim they do not harm 50 million public school students.
For this you should pay them as consultants and law makers and policy people. They won’t harm your kids.
Remember how this started? They told the public they would improve public education. That’s what they were all paid to do. You probably don’t recall them telling people that their goal was actually not to destroy your kids school while they transition to the systems they prefer.
This bar gets any lower and it’s below ground.
Musical Chairs
Some move goals
While others punt
The switching roles
Are just a stunt
Very important comment on how the ed reform movement works.
What I would like to hear is a challenge to Nina Rees. Because people also say “supporting private school vouchers does not take money away from the children who attend traditional public school districts nor does it hurt children in district schools”.
Apparently, Nina Rees must support vouchers for the same reason she supports public charter schools.
Most people who claim to be democrats don’t support private school vouchers but in fact, all their arguments for why charters aren’t a problem apply to vouchers, too.
It’s a convenient slogan for the privatizers, but it is not truthful. Privatization siphons money from public school students resulting in larger classes, reduced services and stranded costs. Privatization is imposed inefficiency as a parallel educational system is generally not needed.
“TheSnydes
· 1h
Breaking research: Before COVID, schools that switched to 4-day weeks saw meaningful reductions in student learning. @KevinMahnken’s new report @The74 asks the big question: What could those trends now tell us about the pandemic’s lost instructional time? ”
The same ed reformers who are slamming public schools for 4 day weeks were energetically lobbying to get rid of “seat time” measures just last year.
What changed? They flipped positions because now they can attack public schools with it.
The one and only coherent and consistent position in ed reform is opposition to public schools. None of the rest of it makes sense. It’s the single organizing principle of “the movement”. The only coherent piece.
The same people who are setting up completely unregulated “Amazon marketplaces” for edu-products with public funds where parents can choose a list of contractors and call that “school” are outraged that public schools went to 4 day weeks in a pandemic.
So what does it mean for public schools that they are the only schools that will be regulated and policed by ed reformers in the systems they envision?
All of the “woke bans” they’re pushing won’t apply to the publicly funded private schools they promote, or the various edu-contractors. Just our schools.
Are public schools okay with this? The same ed reformers who don’t support their schools or students will be in charge of policing their schools, and ONLY their schools?
I think public schools have to start discussing this because lord knows there’s no discussion of any of this in the ed reform echo chamber. Are we obligated to accept mandates from a lobby that doesn’t support our schools or students and doesn’t regulate or police their own schools? Why would we be?
Libertarianism and the neo-Confederacy mind-set, quite the witch’s brew of knuckleheadedness on steroids. These bozos want to destroy the real public schools, the great social programs that we still do have and they stand adamantly in the way of M4A and tuition free university education because that would be communism/Stalinism, according to their twisted world view. Oh, and they are also opposed to democracy, can’t have too many people voting don’t you know. I hope more people like Charles Siler will see the light.
“School Choice Expansion among legislative successes for the Indiana Catholic Conference” (Today’s Catholic, 4-27-2021)
In another midwestern state, the director of the state’s Catholic Conference took credit for the first school choice legislation in his state. He now works in advocacy at the federal level. Other state Catholic Conferences co-host with the Koch’s AFP, school choice rallies in state capitols.The conservative Catholic majority on SCOTUS delivered the verdict for Espinosa against Montana. The head of the largest lay religious organization is the world is a former Republican strategist and legislative aide to Jesse Helms.
Charles Siler’s Linked in entry provides no indication that he advanced privatization while working for a public policy arm of an evangelical church, especially not for a single church hierarchy with implied representation of more than 50,000,000 adult members. I look forward to reading about a man who “switches sides” from paid advocacy for school choice while he worked for one of the almost 50 state Catholic Conferences (background info- “School Choice Expansion among legislative successes for Indiana Catholic Conference” 4-27-2021, Today’s Catholic. In Kansas, the state Catholic Conference took the same type of credit for school choice legislation.)
The tunnel vision among public education supporters who ignore that the SCOTUS decision for Espinosa against Montana was delivered by a majority Catholic conservative court has a parallel. Yesterday, the clueless George W. Bush said, “If the Republican Party stands for white Anglo Saxon Protestanism then it’s not going to win anything”. That must have been an ouch moment for the 60% of white Catholics who voted in 2016 for Trump, for the Knights of Columbus shrine that welcomed Trump, for John Eastman who stood with Giuliani on Jan. 6, for the head of the largest lay organization in the world who was formerly a Republican strategist and legislative aide to Jesse Helms, for the conservative Catholic jurists Trump appointed, for the Catholic University of America Board that is cozy with Charles Koch, for the Catholic League, for the Napa Institute, for the priests and bishops who lost congregants for backing Trump (NCRon-line, 4-29-2021, “Support of Trump within Church has driven some Catholics to the exits”, for Bishop Hebda who was advised by his state’s Catholic Conference that he could prohibit his priests from voting in the 2020 Democratic primary, for William Barr, for Robert P. George, for Leonard Leo, for the now deceased Paul Weyrich, co-founder of the religious right and ALEC, etc.
I am not convinced. He has the bona fides of a grifter as far as I’m concerned. Walsh for President? Foundation for Government Accountability? Goldwater Institute? George Mason University graduate school? Arizona Realtors? Give me a f…ing break. I think the readers of this blog are so desperate to find “somebody else” to do the work they should be doing that they just palpitate when a Siler says what they want to hear. As far as I’m concerned, he’s a 5th Columnist until I’m proven otherwise. I will be happy to have been proven wrong. But it seems to me this guy is just looking for consulting fees.
Consulting fees from desperate, gullible rubes, that is.
Greg-
I suspect that his religious objectives drove Barr’s destruction of his own reputation. (Rachel Maddow spoke yesterday about Barr and a judge’s recent court order). In the replies from the directors of state Conferences I’ve received, there’s been a God speak ditto head quality similar to that attributed to evangelicals in the above blog post.
Irrespective of any specific individual, when conservative religion addles a brain and it’s then followed by the religious person recanting parts of the doctrine, it’s anyone’s guess about the epiphany’s fortuitous timing, how reliable and valid it is, what motivates it,…
I had the same reaction when I read that “He now advises pro-public education groups and candidates”.
Advises them of what?
That they are dealing with dishonest ideologues who are out to destroy public schools and make money in the process?
And how much does he charge for such blatantly obvious advice?
Poet-
Fauci regularly meets with Gates. Forbes reported yesterday about Fauci’s opinion, “Patent waivers may not be best way to help boost vaccine access.” On 4-12, The New Republic posted, “How Bill Gates Impeded Global Access to Covid Vaccines…Gates has an ideological commitment to knowledge monopolies… He controls the narrative and the payroll…” TNR’s article was about Gates’ negative response to patent waivers.
I tell you I’m shocked.
““Patent waivers may not be best way to help boost vaccine access.””
Did Fauci say why not? Or were his lips simply moved by strings held by Gates?
SDP: “Advises them of what?”
Of what they want to hear. Whether it’s grounded in fact or not. Whether it leads to effective action or not.
There is one common mistake all grassroots political advocates make: they assume that because one is good at doing one thing, it must easily translate into effective political advocacy. Kind of like thinking that because one was a principal fighting the good fight is in any way politically savvy to lead and wage a grassroots political campaign. The hallmark of this is to tell ineffective political advocates what they want to hear, thus lulling them into the complacency of “we’re doing the right thing, therefore we must be effective!” when the evidence of experience points the other way.
So when I read, “I’m convinced that the pendulum is set to swing back in support of public institutions and public schools. While the fight is exhausting and often dispiriting, this is actually an exciting time to be an advocate for public schools.”, I am convinced that grift is on. Where is the evidence “that the pendulum is set to swing back”?
Where is the political professionalism and discipline needed to actually fight a campaign against the billionaires that many on this blog have already given up on?
Is there really a pendulum?
Victims don’t benefit from a theoretical pendulum. It’s similar to the national political boasting about a reduced unemployment rate. For the person without a job, the statistic remains100%.
Marketing program- Promotion Strategy 101- “It’s an exciting time to be …”
The Pit and the Pendulum
The pendulum is swinging
And pit is very near
The rats in pit are singing
“There’s nothing here to fear”
Given that the Biden administration just announced support for the patent waiver, I bet Fauci is now wishing he had not questioned the wisdom of patent waivers.
He undoubtedly thought the Biden administration would come out against the waivers and was most likely simply being used to float a trial balloon , which was resoundingly criticized.
No one will ever accuse him of being the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Biden pleasantly surprised me there.
I think he even surprised himself.
But whatever the case, be deserves to be commended because opposing big pharma is no small undertaking.
I hope this will serve as a precedent so that things which are part of the common good should never be patented.
Completely by chance just yesterday I saw a video about Michael Jackson, how he bough the rights for Beatles songs. Insane.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/michael-jackson-beatles-songs/
Cases like this should preclude private patenting entirely because they were the outcome of publicly funded research.
The mRNA patents of Pfizer and Moderna were critically dependent upon the work of Graham and other scientists at NIH and scientists at Universities that received NIH grant dollars.
I am not opposed to patents on private inventions made with private dollars. But that is not what we are talking about in this case. Not only was the know-how discovered and developed by publivly funded scientists, but the bill for development, testing and production of the vaccines was also largely funded by governments.
As one NIH scientist noted, vaccine development by many of these companies was largely a”cut and paste” operation on the part of their own workers. They were basically copying the work that was done at NIH.
It’s deeply dishonest for them to try to take the credit for such work in the form of patents.
Patents are only supposed to be awarded for inventions that are “unobvious” to those “skilled in the art”.
The mRNA patents for covid don’t meet that criterion, since any decent researcher who had been following the work of scientists like Graham could probably have come up with an effective mRNA vaccine if they were provided with the necessary resources. The speed with which the vaccines were developed is a testament to this claim.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel is continuing Trump’s legacy by opposing patent waivers
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/05/07/big-pharma-stocks-rebound-after-germanys-merkel-speaks-out-against-vaccine-patent
Biden is showing true leadership while Merkel is showing her true colors — out to boost the stock price of BioNTech, a German company.
Will Corporate Greed prolong the Pandemic?
https://www.project-syndicate.org/onpoint/big-pharma-blocking-wto-waiver-to-produce-more-covid-vaccines-by-joseph-e-stiglitz-and-lori-wallach-2021-05
The shortfall in global COVID-19 vaccine production could be closed if manufacturers around the world were granted access to the necessary technology and knowledge. But first, the US and other key governments must recognize the drug companies’ opposition to this solution for the deadly rent-seeking that it is.”
byJoseph Stiglitz, Lori Wallach
“Last fall, former President Donald Trump recruited a handful of rich-country allies to block any such waiver negotiations. But pressure on the Biden administration to reverse this self-defeating blockade has been growing, garnering the support of 200 Nobel laureates and former heads of state and government (including many prominent neoliberal figures), 110 members of the US House of Representatives, ten US Senators, 400 US civil-society groups, 400 European parliamentarians, and many others.”
“The scarcity of Covid-19 vaccines across the developing world is largely the result of efforts by vaccine manufacturers to maintain their monopoly control and profits. Pfizer and Moderna, the makers of the extremely effective mRNA vaccines, have refused or failed to respond to numerous requests by qualified pharmaceutical manufacturers seeking to produce their vaccines. And not one vaccine originator has shared its technologies with poor countries through the World Health Organization’s voluntary Covid-19 Technology Access Pool.”
“More and more people are paying attention to elections, especially school boards”
The common people are stirring. That should give great satisfaction to you on this blog who have been in the fight so long and so effectively it seems.
That proverbial brick wall appears to be crumbling, thanks in no small part to this blog and Diane’s tireless effort.
I wish that only taxpayers could vote in school board elections. All the outside funds try to promote Jim Crow privatization, and the weaponized wealth of billionaires in local politics gives them an unfair advantage.
I too grew up with the feeling that government often oppressed the individual. I still see the potential for this to be the case, and I would claim this belief does not arise from my background as a southerner who felt strongly the pain of a defeated region. My distrust of government comes from a recognition of its limitations. You cannot get government to be everything.
But it can work significantly toward the following goals:
A society equitable in that all have the opportunity to live without fear of those who would oppress them. This includes protection from businesses that would sell us inferior products just as it protects us from the thief at our door.
A society where people get medical attention at a time appropriate for their needs, thus reducing the threat to their health.
A society where all their children are all loved and education is valued.
A society where no work is undervalued due to the economic power of a ruling class, but all are valued due to what they bring to the common good.
These things are presently the business of government. No other institution has arisen to function as it does. Those who feel that economic relationship is somehow independent of government fail to understand both.
Everyone should read ed reformers because to anyone outside the echo chamber the aggressively anti-public school stance becomes immediately clear:
“David Osborne
Managing a large, century-old, centralized bureaucracy, where schools are driven by rules & budgets, not their missions or customers, is almost impossible. Add in an elected school board in most cities–a group of activists who know little about management–& it’s even harder.”
A public school superintendent resigns and they immediately turn it into yet another broad public school bashing opportunity.
Everything, everything is turned into a mechanization to sell privatization. It’s the same argument over and over no matter the issue- “public schools suck”
There is nothing, ever that is positive to any public school or public school student. Everything that occurs is turned into a weapon to attack public schools. If you’re wondering why none of these people make any positive contribution to public schools I would suggest you start reading them. You’ll figure it out in a day.
nice line: I suggest you start reading them
“Add in an elected school board in most cities–a group of activists who know little about management–& it’s even harder”
I would be in favor of a new way to be “accountable” to the public rather than electing random folks who put up lots of signs and have strong opinions without the experience and expertise to have deep knowledge…….and can sometimes interfere with, rather than enhance the running of a school system. There must be a better formula (2 elected members and 3 appointed with deep knowledge of schools and education???)
This seems to be a problem of larger cities. One board making decisions for thousands upon thousands of students. That’s where the money is, it draws in outsider campaign funding and power-hungry/ partisan candidates. The elected BOE model works well in our & lots of small NJ cities with district enrollment of 6k-10k students or fewer. A 30k-50k or smaller populace focused on their town’s ed, with open meetings supplemented by online communications, and a local weekly rag publishing anyone’s letters to the ed: one’s voice can actually be heard. The problems of elected BOE’s is just one set of myriad challenges facing the management of a huge school district.
“Managing a large, century-old, centralized bureaucracy, where schools are driven by rules & budgets, not their missions or customers,”
Gosh, I wonder why public school supporters don’t work well with the ed reform echo chamber?
Is it perhaps because they have absolute contempt for public schools, the students who attend them and the people who work in them, which they loudly announce daily?
It’s an absolute mystery, I tell you. Who wouldn’t turn their schools over to people who seek to eradicate them and replace them with “the Amazon marketplace of eduproducts”?
First, I spplaud you, Charles, for re-considering your position. That is hard to do. You were open to new information and you were courageous to act upon your new beliefs. And, Diane, thank you for sharing this. As a former public school teacher and principal, we need all the help and advocacy we can get.
By the way, I just conducted research on how other countries are dealing with issues with public schools, and none have focused to the extent on “school choice” as we have as some maneuver to “force” public schools to improve. Second, as part of this research, I learned just how great our public schools are, even relative to other countries lauded for their achievement, in so many areas.
Again, thank you, Charles, and Diane.
“By the way, I just conducted research on how other countries are dealing with issues with public schools….”
See Chile since the Pinochet coup in ’73. You can learn plenty about school privatization and the mal-effects of that privatization.
And no, our public schools are not great. Mainly due to the standards and testing malpractice regime that has been forced down the throats of public school teachers (and enforced by almost all of the adminimals supposedly in charge). We’ve got a long way to go to eliminate that abomination of education malpractice and get to the point of fulfilling the foundational purpose of public education: “The purpose of public education is to promote the welfare of the individual so that each person may savor the right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the fruits of their own industry.”
Wow. Siler had a lot to overcome and grow beyond. Good for him!
Just thought I’d post another off topic reminder that millions of kids have not seen the inside of a classroom for over a year. I know it’s not a topic that gets discussed here.
My classroom is now open to all my students. One of them thought it was a good idea to take up the offer. One student returned to my classroom.
My district’s investment banker turned superintendent proposed that we lengthen next school year to make up for “learning loss”. The proposal died today. No one, not parents, principals, or teachers, went for it.
William Butler Yeats said that education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire. He was right.
Good to hear you’re open. 5 days a week, full time?
It’s amazing, if you looked at the comments here for the past 8 months or so, what a total non-event the absence of school for so many kids is.
That great quotation, often attributed to Yeats or to Shaw, is actually one of those statements made by someone else entirely, long ago, that was then passed down in the oral tradition, refined in the process, and misattributed. The source appears to be the essay “On Listening to Lectures” in Plutarch’s Moralia: “For the mind does not require filling like a bottle, but rather, like wood, it only requires kindling to create in it an impulse to think independently and an ardent desire for the truth.” (Loeb Library translation) I’ve often seen it attributed to Yeats (who famously served as an inspector of schools and took such a round of inspection as a startng point of one of his greatest poems, “Among School Children”). However, I’ve read a LOT of Yeats–doubtless close to everything he wrote that is available, and I’ve never run across this, and no one else, to my knowledge, has either.
Flerp, the geniuses at this Flor-uh-duh school are not only open but have worked to keep vaccinated people out of their school: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/02/us/miami-centner-academy-coronavirus-vaccine.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab
I have but one book of Yeats’ poetry, but I am certain William Butler Yeats wrote this: “Don’t look up quotations on the internet! Come on!” It was definitely either Yeats or Eleanor Roosevelt.
Flerp, I am a teacher. It is easy for me and necessary for me to have a strong belief in and optimism about students.
High-lair-ee-ous how many times this off topic reminder finds its way into anything under the sun.
Hi, FLERP. You’ve provided valuable perspective on this as a parent whose kid is going through it, on the few occasions when we’ve discussed it. I’m thinking one of the reasons it doesn’t get a lot of input here is because we come from all over. The status of schools open/ part open/ closed has varied wildly over the year, as have covid stats from one region to another. It’s hard to take general positions when there’s no general status. I have input is as an observer of my local district [hybrid since last Sept with 85% participation; more days now for K-5]. Also insight into my admin sis’s struggle with scheduling teachers/ classes for an upstate-NY hisch’s hybrid school year. What I’ve learned about the mostly-remote experience of big cities, & the related controversy, comes from WaPo ed articles & their comment threads with many DC-area posts.
I don’t think it’s too difficult to see this the biggest disruption to education of our lifetime in America. The other day I saw an estimate that as many as three million students just stopped going to school in the last year. It is really, really weird to me that there is zero discussion among commenters here — on a blog devoted to education! — expressing concern about the impact of this crisis on students.
FLERP!,
I am a parent having the same experience as you are and I feel as if you live in some bizarro version of NYC that I don’t. (Do you know that Superman reference?)
Lots of students have been back at school in NYC. I know students in elementary school who have been inside classrooms. I have seen quite rigorous fully remote learning by teachers who have adapted to the very trying circumstances. (Last spring was terrible, I grant you).
Of course kids are being lost but that isn’t just about in-person school. This is a pandemic and the circumstances in which kids get “lost” — which usually goes along with a family experiencing extreme distress and hardship where there isn’t an adult available to see that the kid isn’t getting lost — is multiplied because of the pandemic — not simply because schools are remote or in-person.
NYC public schools have been much better than almost every big city. This city provided in-person hybrid option sooner than usual but didn’t force it on anyone.
I am not sure what you think people should be discussing — everyone here wants kids back and a return to normalcy which will come when the pandemic subsides and vaccination rates are high.
But I would love to discuss this with you because you keep talking about not discussing it without offering up your own ideas of what you’d like to see as a parent. I don’t know if you want schools to force all kids and teachers into in-person. I don’t know if you want to give students a choice and force teachers in-person.
But in terms of discussion, as a parent the one thing that I see it that there is no good way for an in-person teacher to successfully teach a class that has some in-person and some remote learners without having both groups of students have a less than ideal situation. I’ve seen great all-remote classes (where kids who are “in school” are still remote). But the mix where a teacher is dealing with some kids on-line and some in classroom is not ideal.
I don’t know if you would like your kid in a class where the teacher also has 10 or even 5 remote kids who the teacher must make sure are fully engaged during the class so that the teacher must stay in front of the camera.
I don’t know if you would like it if the DOE segregated students who chose all remote so that the teachers in school could teach without having to worry about also engaging remote students via camera at the same time they were engaging students in the classroom. Maybe you would like a system where the kids who chose remote, are no longer students at their former school taught by those teachers but are in a new all-remote school.
All I know is that you want people to talk about it, But I would like to hear your ideas or desires beyond “why aren’t kids all back in school” because I don’t understand HOW that happens in your vision.
Let’s discuss this if you want to.
nycpsp – I didn’t realize NYC too was doing simultaneous remote/ in-person! I guess I should have realized, there was info re: teacher shortage. I for one would be interested in the various ways districts have handled hybrid, as our local seems to be doing it differently than many. Also ideas/ examples comparing remote-instruction lesson methods teachers have found better/ worse for different subjects.
My attitude has evolved re: hybrid. At one point it seemed to me a little crazy to do such flip-flops for a partial, sort of muffled in-person experience that gets interrupted & rescheduled etc. But I sit on my porch a lot, & there’s no mistaking how thrilled the kids walking back& forth to school have been over getting to socialize just that little bit.
“I am not sure what you think people should be discussing — everyone here wants kids back and a return to normalcy which will come when the pandemic subsides and vaccination rates are high.”
I would like to see some indication that people are extremely concerned about what has been happening to kids in the past year. Perhaps comments now and then relaying stories of their own experiences and anxieties, the trouble kids they know have been having. I’d like the topic to come up at all without me having to drop an off-topic comment in the middle of a comment thread. That’s all. It’s a very low bar. It’s not enough to say “oh of course everyone is concerned but there are no good solutions so why should we expect anyone to even mention,” when every day, commenters find the motivation to talk endlessly about Bill Gates and charter schools. It’s a been a real disappointment to see.
bethree,
NYC public schools seem to be offering a range of how the remote/in-person works. Some schools have kids who are in-person working on laptops — for the classroom part their experience doesn’t seem any different than remote. But, according to their parents, just the chance to go to school to be with other students between classes and for lunch, etc., is enough to make that experience worthwhile. I think some other schools have the in-person students in the classroom with remote students online. And I am not sure how elementary schools work, but I know of friends with kids who are back in person (although not sure if it is every day, might be only half time) but are very pleased to have that.
But I recognize it is a complicated issue and it is especially complicated in a place like NYC where students may be in one of a thousand different high schools and want to remain at that high school but also be remote.
And then can they mandate vaccines? Don’t get me started on the complications if public schools start doing that! (For either teachers or staff)
So, here’s what they’ve been doing in my town since September. It’s hybrid, with 85% students participating (the other 15% all-remote). The school day is divided into am session 8:30-12:30, plus a 2-hr pm session that is all-remote. [Thus no eating in school.] In the am sessions, teachers devote all attention to in-person cohort. The other cohort gets the class livestreamed – sees teacher & whiteboard, and hears everybody, but cannot participate. The pm zoom session is Q&A/ reinforcement, some small groups etc. I imagine teachers end up working more with those who were home that am to make sure they understand everything.
It strikes me as better than one teacher running simultaneous in-person/zoom cohorts. Separate in-person and remote teachers would probably cover more curriculum, but this way there’s more sense of inclusion in a “class.” Haven’t seen any public criticism of the method or quality. Just the usual push for more in-person. [K-5 has gradually added more in-person days].
FLERP!,
I don’t get it.
Dropping in an offhand comment about how this subject isn’t talked about is not talking about the subject. That’s why I was interested in discussing the subject with you.
But instead we seem to be discussing the subject of how this subject isn’t discussed enough here. Okay, it isn’t discussed enough here. So now you have the chance to discuss it.
You bring up an interesting point — there aren’t many posts of teachers relaying stories of their own experiences and anxieties, or the trouble kids they know have been having. But that doesn’t seem like what this board has ever been about. Teachers and/or parents relaying their personal experiences and often how unhappy they or their child was.
Maybe one problem is that it seems obvious that the situation is bad for everyone. It’s not that the educators on here aren’t sympathetic or don’t care. But I think the focus is more on how to improve the situation. Whenever you have posted the difficulties your family has experienced, I see a lot of concern expressed by people here.
I’m not sure there is any response except that it is a terrible thing that so many kids are experiencing. And then, what to do about it? Which is the topic that I hoped you might want to discuss, too, because I’m interested in what other parents think are good ways to address this! But maybe that topic isn’t interesting to you.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. My family’s difficulties are MINISCULE compared to what millions of families are going through. There are countless examples, but yesterday the NYT had a story discussing an 11-year-old who couldn’t log into his “remote classes” until his mother got home from an overnight shift at a casino. This is not about my sad story. It’s not about my failure to discuss the issue, especially since I am essentially the only commenter who ever dares even mention the issue. This is about an absolutely devastating experience for millions of kids, and mainly the most vulnerable kids. And it’s about a total lack of interest by the commenters on this blog.
Here’s a topic for discussion: I’ve written off this school year, like most parents. If all public schools are not open full-time in the fall, when we know all teachers and staff, and in fact all adults in the US, will either be vaccinated or have had the chance to declined a vaccination, then I will have lost all faith in public education. Feel free to discuss, anyone. I’ve done my job here for the day.
Here’s an idea for NYC schools. To the extent the bottleneck next fall is some parents’ unwillingness to return to the classroom, the city should stop offering remote learning as a regular accommodation. Remote learning, is it continues to exist, should be run centrally through a central office that can focus on the technology issues, and hire teachers who have or can develop skills specific to remote teaching. Perhaps it could even be done at the state level. Individual schools should not have to shoulder that burden, and teachers at regular schools should not have to straddle live and remote teaching. The best way to make people less leery of full-time, maskless, in-person school is to show them that full-time, maskless, in-person school works and is safe. If people remain afraid, or they just prefer remote learning for their own reasons, that should be a totally centralized offering disconnected from specific schools.
FLERP!,
I suggest you re-read your comment. You “helpfully” pointed out serious problems that we all know about as if you were the only one here who knew or cared about them. And then punted when it came time to talk about ways to address these problems that you are so angry that people aren’t talking about.
Is this a game to you?
Everyone here can agree with every thing you just said and that still doesn’t do anything for the kids you claim to care about — the most vulnerable and at-risk.
In NYC, public schools are open now. But that doesn’t mean that all parents want their kids there. And I have to assume that if you are posting in good faith, that you would actually recognize that every study shows that the MOST affluent parents are the ones sending their kids back at higher rates. It is the most vulnerable ones who are more likely to be remote.
You seem to be looking for a scapegoat instead of looking for real solutions.
I asked you if you would force kids back and you didn’t reply. You seem to think as long as your handy scapegoat the teachers are forced back, problem solved. Maybe that’s true for the problems of more affluent kids.
As long as schools are “open”, you are fine?? You don’t want to discuss HOW this can be done in a way most likely to help parents and kids?
Your “discussion” is “we must open schools in the fall”. Okay, then.
Flerp! and Trump and the Republicans agree that all we need to do is open schools in the fall and nothing else. Most of us here think that is not true and the most important discussion is HOW to do this and what works.
What else is there to discuss now that you have stated that schools must reopen but you have no interest in talking about how that could be done.
Easy peasy. Discussion done. But I will certainly call out that you have offered absolutely nothing for the most vulnerable at-risk kids except the Trumpian/Republican belief that all they need is for schools to be “open”. That seems to be where their concern stops.
Do you have any serious concerns about what’s happening to students? If so, what are they? Don’t talk about me. Just describe what your biggest fears and concerns are about what’s happening to students—academically, emotionally, etc.
If you want to discuss solutions, feel free to start. Do you think all schools should return to full-time in-person learning in the fall, given that teachers and staff will all have been vaccinated or had the option to be vaccinated? Should teachers have the option to teach remotely in the fall if they want to? Should schools offer remote learning options in the fall? Should remote learning options be a permanent feature of public school if parents want it?
You missed FLERP’s suggestions on remote learning. He says, possibly a draconian measure that would force everyone back in-person, eliminating remote instruction, period. Or, (based on surveys I assume) if a significant portion of families refuse to come back, offer a centralized remote instruction option.
My opinion: remote learning option will have to continue for the foreseeable [pandemic] future, as there is in fact a significant sector unwilling to return at the moment. Even just within the 1st qtr 2021 the stats in densely-populated areas are still showing 30+% of POC families refusing in-person seats. Pandemic stats will have to come way down from their current level to change that is my guess: whatever ave caseload may be in their area, they are looking at mult x rate for cases/ hosp/ death. Add to that anyone whose schools have not upgraded to covid-safe ventilation systems.
But should remote learning be centralized? I would think remotes will do better if they remain part of a school community, with dedicated remote teachers from that school who are sidelined by covid and both groups with hopes of opting back into in-person as pandemic subsides. This is also necessary if we’re going to reach out, contact, help w/food etc those [mostly-disadvantaged] kids staying out of school. But no more simultaneous in-person/ zoom classes.
‘Schools shouldn’t have to shoulder this burden,’ let them see how safe in-person is [=they are just scaredy-cats], banish them to some state-level online school: this is off-base punitive talk completely ignoring who’s staying remote and why.
My crystal ball is on the fritz. I cannot see the future. I tried to use VAM to predict what would happen in the future but, as usual, it did not work. I am just going to have to refrain from speculation and deal with life a little at a time. Oh well. C’est la vie.
Did you even read my first reply to you? I was trying to discuss the difficulties of having classrooms that had some remote students at the same time, and how it seems to be worse for all students. I have no idea whether you noticed that or not because you didn’t discuss it.
If you are going to ask my opinions on all of those things, why not offer your own. Assuming that the vaccine does it’s job, with very low rates, I absolutely think that schools should be open — but they are open already! Isn’t the devil in the details?
What to do about young children (and teenagers) who are at risk if they are in remote situations but who also live in vulnerable households where they would cause serious harm if they brought home a covid infection?
Should specialized high schools tell kids if they can’t be in person, their seat will be given to someone else and they will be in the new “remote only” school? Should other schools say that they can’t accommodate remote students but are open for in-person (and presumably smaller class sizes) and the remote students get what they get and don’t complain?
I’m not asking you those questions, I’m asking myself and I can state for the record that I don’t know. I would be interested in discussions about the pros and cons of different solutions.
Those who are really concerned about children’s social and emotional well-being are the ones who want small class sizes, money for services, counseling, parent help, making sure their parents have decent income and healthcare! That’s what I want. In NYC, that means not just “schools reopening” but wraparound services and adults whose lives are not in distress! I don’t get how anyone thinks that “reopening schools” is going to begin to solve these issues and I think that those who ONLY want to demand that schools be “reopened” and then ask questions without offering even an iota of discussion probably don’t have a clue what the most vulnerable kids in this country need.
Why not give your opinion on these things?
Why don’t you? I replied honestly that I wanted to discuss the pros and cons to help me form an opinion.
You apparently have an opinion that you don’t intend to share.
Why don’t you?
FLERP!, I’m not interested in any more childish “why don’t yous” with you. I made a good faith effort to have a friendly exchange of ideas (and actually talked about what I thought was important) and solutions and you obviously are not interested.
I understand the frustrations of parents who want reopening more quickly and my priorities are how to direct massive investment into the programs that best serve at-risk students when schools reopen in the fall (assuming low covid rates and high vaccination rates). And I want the emotional and academic needs of middle class and more affluent kids addressed too. I also believe that the majority of Americans want that and if they don’t, they pretend they do. Meanwhile what IS controversial is how to do that. And the side I find most repulsive is the one that insists that schools immediately re-open and also come up with miracle solutions on how to solve all the problems that a destructive pandemic and years of disinvestment in both public schools and in the disproportionately poverty stricken families who use public schools created.
I would be interested in discussing ways to approach the reopening with people who see the complexities and trade offs instead of who just repeat “reopen schools” ad nauseam.
You may have missed many of the discussions about this in other posts. I feel like we have discussed it a lot on this blog. Diane posted many pieces related to school closures over the last year.
There are many teachers commenting on this blog who have been teaching in-person (like myself) all year. It doesn’t get more real than that.
Remote learning is difficult for teachers too. Most would prefer to be in person.
It’s been an exhausting year with circumstances beyond our control and so many people doing the best they can to keep us all safe and respond the best way they can.
I haven’t seen a post on this since December or January. And I haven’t seen a comment by a commenter who isn’t me, Dienne, or Carol Burris since then. Can you point me to one?
I do not see a FLERP comment for this post
https://dianeravitch.net/2021/02/13/john-thompson-the-debate-about-reopening-should-not-be-politicized/
I found this by entering “reopen” into the search box at
https://dianeravitch.net/
There have been many parent groups formed specifically to advocate for opening schools. Maybe you could connect with one in your area?
Sorry, but I don’t consider “we must re-open schools” and then refusing to engage in the best ways to do this to be useful. I get that you (and perhaps dienne) feel strongly that repeating that is important.
Right here and now I am stating for the record that public schools should have full time in person education in the fall. That’s what I hope happens. I don’t know of any parent who would disagree.
But parents would disagree about all the things you don’t want to talk about like whether in school is mandatory for teachers and students and whether students should be frequently tested because that is the best way to measure and solve “learning loss”. They disagree on how serious “learning loss” is and whether in-person school should be mandatory all summer for all students to make up for it. But you don’t seem interested in discussing all that except to simplify everything into “schools must re-open” versus “schools must not re-open” despite no one saying “schools must not re-open”.
Maybe someone else here wants to discuss the issues that are in question. I don’t find it very enlightening to read “schools must re-open because kids are suffering” without any discussion of how to reopen.
Bravo, NYCPSP, you hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial head with, “I don’t find it very enlightening to read ‘schools must re-open because kids are suffering’ without any discussion of how to reopen.” Note the silence with which the comment will be received.
GregB,
Thanks. I do think there are many issues that have no clear answers but that schools will be wrestling with and debating when they do re-open. And it would be good to discuss them.
One thing I wonder is whether there will be a good non-punitive way of dealing with the fact that (presumably) some students will come in behind and others will not. How will that work? This September some new 7th graders will have easily learned their pandemic year’s 6th grade math curriculum remotely and others will have lost ground and need review of 5th grade material they learned pre-pandemic.
That’s why I don’t think there needs to be a knee jerk reaction when some people talk about some way of evaluating where students are. For older students, that may include tests, but testing to evaluate students is not the same as “high stakes testing”.
Rather than simply failing students, it may be time to discuss a return to what used to be called tracking. Let the students who can move ahead. Have small classes (or same size with two or three teachers) for the students who need to go slower to catch up. It’s okay to have 7th graders learning what might have been called 6th grade math last year but also might have been 7th grade math a decade ago. It’s okay to slow down the curriculum when for decades it has been needless accelerated for no purpose whatsoever. And it is okay to let the students who can move ahead quickly be allowed to move ahead. And who moves ahead and who slows down should be a continuous process, because every kid, no matter how accelerated, is well-served by slowing down when they hit a complicated topic that just happens to be tough for them, and every kid, even if they aren’t in a fast-moving class, will have a time when they grasp a concept quickly and can move on.
I know there are pros and cons to all of these. Nothing is going to be perfect, and I hope this country has the patience to recognize that. I think the kids will be all right if they have lots of support where students are taught from where they are but without any judgement as to where they are “supposed” to be, as if that was writ in stone and not just someone’s opinion.
Yes, NYCPSP, I have been shocked to read of “high fail stats,” referring to various national districts, in ed articles. WTH? “Failing” students during a pandemic is the opposite of the sort of innovation and creativity required to educate in what amounts to a ‘Through the Looking Glass’ situation. I remember my 14+k uni adjusting swiftly to massive anti-war demonstrations in the late spring of 1970, and it certainly wasn’t by ignoring reality and flunking people right and left.
I think your concept of allowing students to find their curriculum level via formative testing is absolutely what’s needed for at least one full schyr if not two. Implementation would take creative planning, and allowing teachers to re-assert much of the professionalism that has been taken away from them by rigid application of [20 yrs of] top-down reforms. Happy to see some big districts are already planning to use covid aid to run expanded summer school, that at least shows a modicum of flexibility, but far more will be needed.
An example of what I mean:
FLERP! said: “yesterday the NYT had a story discussing an 11-year-old who couldn’t log into his “remote classes” until his mother got home from an overnight shift at a casino. ”
Actually, the NYT had a story discussing how hard it is for an 11 year old whose family is in economic distress to learn:
From the article:
“School district officials said that they have offered to let Jordyn come into the building four days a week for added in-person instruction, but that his mother has yet to commit to the plan.
Ms. Coleman said she was uncomfortable having him board a bus early in the morning before she has returned from her shift. But she is considering using her tax return to pay for a car service to take him to school.”
A parent who was saving up to buy a stove, a fridge and a car has to spend money on a car service to get her kid to school. How does “reopen schools now” help these kids?
US Department of Education turns to yet another ed reform echo chamber group for advice on the public schools the same groups lobby against:
“Founded in early 2020, the National Parent Union receives funding from reform-oriented and pro-charter foundations. Since the beginning of the pandemic, the group has polled parents monthly on topics such as school reopening, parents’ preferences for in-person or remote learning, and how prepared they think their children are for the next grade level.”
I can save them some time – all public schools suck, all charters are super awesome, and everyone should get a 5000 voucher to attend a private school.
Once again, the Walton, Gates and Koch families direct US public education policy.
https://www.the74million.org/to-rebuild-trust-with-families-ed-dept-seeks-input-from-outspoken-parent-advocacy-group/
And now, from our “You can’t make up stuff this crazy” department: It seems that Bob’s Real Good Flor-uh-duh School is not the most moronic school in the state.
This story is wild! Children were told not to hug a vaccinated parent for more than 5 seconds because they may be exposed to vaccine shedding. WTH.
And this school received almost a million $$ in Covid relief.
That was twice as dumb the second time you posted it.
Yes, and when I travel, I expect that the way to get people who don’t speak English to understand it is to yell it at them. LOL.
The 74 releases yet another fawning article on The Parents Union, which is now being depicted as the “voice” of 50 million public school families:
“Disclosure: The Walton Family Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, the Charles and Lynn Schusterman Family Foundation and The City Fund provide financial support to the National Parents Union and The 74.”
They’ve appointed themselves spokespersons for every public school parent in the country.
The Board members of the Parents Union are all ed reform echo chamber members, including a high-ranking former Obama official. The Obama ed officials all went from the US Department of Ed immediately to full time employment in ed reform groups.
Just one big anti-public school echo chamber. Around and around it goes. Sometimes they switch chairs and hats.
https://www.the74million.org/to-rebuild-trust-with-families-ed-dept-seeks-input-from-outspoken-parent-advocacy-group/
The charter and voucher promoting “ed reform movement” have appointed themselves “watchdogs” of the public schools they didn’t and don’t attend, and don’t support:
“The National Parents Union is working with the Center on Reinventing Public Education at the University of Washington to create “a checklist” that families can use to track how districts are using relief funds. The materials are expected to be released next week.
“The questions are oriented around whether students are getting the individualized supports they need and whether parents are getting individualized information about their child’s progress,” said Robin Lake, director of the center.
Rodrigues suggested many of the local groups that have been advocating for reopening schools will now become “watchdogs” to track the funding.”
Apparently there’s no interest in policing their own schools- charter and private schools- because their “watchdog” role will be limited to “districts”.
They couldn’t police charter and private schools if they wanted to- none of the information on how those schools spend relief funds will be publicly available.
So we’ll once again get “analysis” that treats “a lack of information” as “no negative information”.
I don’t mind that they advocate exclusively for charter and private school vouchers and criticize only public schools. I mind that they are presented as “neutrals” who should be in charge of policing public schools. They don’t support our schools. Why are they running them?
“Biden’s WH stocked with Ivy Leaguers”…nearly twice as many Ivy League graduates as the first iteration of the Trump administration… most popular school- harvard.” (Politico 5-2-2021)
In a short period of time, a lot of infamy among harvardites – Larry Summers, Joi Ito, Alan Dershowitz, Martin Novak, Steve Bannon, Jared Kushner, Roland Fryer, Ted Cruz,..from longer ago, Bill Gates and Zuck.
Roberto Rodriguez- harvard
The latest criticism of public schools from the Professional Public School Critics of Ed reform is that public schools aren’t posting summer remediation plans on their websites.
IDEA is a giant charter chain. Here’s their company website:
https://ideapublicschools.org/
No plans posted for summer remediation.
Only public schools are subject to ed reform policing. Their own giant chains, which equal the size of many school districts, are not policed at all.
This is a well-written essay. Thank you for sharing it with your readers!
Off topic, a couple thoughts after watching Secretary Cardona’s responses to questions from NEA members: He says we need to get back to in-person instruction, and that we need to “close the digital divide” and get more laptops to students. Which one is it? In-person or on-screen? It can’t be both. He also said we need to have test score-based accountability, and we need to stop narrowing curricula to prep for tests. Which one is it? High stakes or no stakes? It can’t be both. We have another fork tongued snake running the Department of Education.
I’ll add that the direction he seeks to take is clear: software-based curriculum, CBE.
Sometimes I feel as if so much of this is semantics.
Is there anything in Cardona’s Connecticut history that leads you to believe that the thing he wants is software based curriculum?
When I hear “digital divide”, I think of the reality. Despite the claims that Bill Gates’ kids fancy private school eschewed digital, I don’t know of any privileged kids in private schools and good public schools who don’t use computers and often laptops to do much of their homework. While I grew up in an era where typing my papers was a huge deal versus handwriting them, today’s affluent students do a significant amount of their writing, and even reading, on a computer. They take for granted having very easy access to a computer with very fast internet access. And their parents often take for granted the school communication that happens that way.
But the pandemic showed that there were families with kids vying with siblings and their parents for time on the computer with slow access.
There is a divide and kids who don’t have access to the technology that affluent students have had for years are at a disadvantage these days. My kid can use the internet if a new math concept needs to be explained better than the teacher was able to do during class. What happens to the kids who don’t have that?
When I hear digital divide, I don’t think of software-based curriculum. I think about the advantages my kid has over kids who don’t have the same easy access to technology at home.
Connecticut’s implementation of competency-based education is in Cardona’s rear view mirror. Competency-based means software-based — constant testing. He said he wants to embed tests in curriculum so that no one even knows when they are taking a test. That means all computers all the time. It means constant data mining.
When I think of what a “digital divide” could possibly be, I think of what a “homework gap” could possibly be, what an “achievement gap” could be, what a “skills gap” could be… It is a way to eschew responsibility to pay taxes for community schools with wraparound services, instead giving a ton of money to the tech industry under the illusion that laptops contain magic powers of instruction. There is a wealth gap. Period. It cannot be overcome by education reform.
I am watching Cardona answer questions from Congress yesterday. He will keep the charter slush fund going, increase IDEA funding by an insignificant amount, and testing will never end. He said he wants to listen to teachers, but he said testing during the pandemic needed to continue. Which one is it?
Big whopping Cardona lie number 48,836: We need testing data to figure out who to shortchange and who not to shortchange with larger class sizes, “who belongs in a class of 9 students, and who should be in a class of 20.” In other words, Cardona said the purpose of testing during the pandemic was to create more tracking-based inequalities, more segregation.
Well said, LCT. I share your concerns. What Cardona endorses sounds very much like what Bill Gates and his mega-wallet want.
leftcoastteacher,
Thank you for elaborating.
I agree with all of your priorities. I am just not yet entirely convinced that Cardona wants what Bill Gates wants. You may very well be right, but I am still waiting to see what he does and what policies come out of the DOE. I don’t trust vague platitudes, whether they seem to be signalling what Bill Gates wants or what progressives want. I am interested in what is done.
Aren’t public schools already getting some (albeit not enough) help from Biden’s budget? Are there strings attached to that money to be used for Bill Gates’ favorite CBE or can school districts decide?
Here’s an excellent overview of Biden’s education plan so far, and it is written by an English teacher. The author points out where Biden has made improvements in education policy and where he and Cardona have fallen short. https://jacobinmag.com/2021/05/joe-biden-education-policy
Thank you both, especially for the Jacobin article I hadn’t seen.
Flerp, from what I am aware of with two family members in suburban schools in two different states, all the schools in each district are open and have been this whole school year. My son in law teaches 6th grade on Long Island and has to teach simultaneously those students who choose to come to school and those who choose to stay home and learn remotely! This is his 27th year and it’s been the hardest year of his career trying to keep both groups engaged and give attention to every child’s concerns. He and his wife chose to send their 4 children to school even though the schools have had hybrid models, and have been closed/opened at different times throughout the year due to Covid cases.
My daughter who is a school psychologist in Pennsylvania is dealing with individual students and their parents. Unlike my NY daughter, she and her husband have chosen to keep their 4 children home for remote learning. The children have not stepped into their respective school since March 2020, but just like my son in law, she goes into school every day, except the few times the schools were closed, again due to Covid. My daughter tells me that she has a number of students who are actually doing quite well with the remote learning! Some of these students have had bullying issues and or behavior/learning issues and surprisingly have found remote learning successful! And as NYC Parent points out, these are upper middle class families in upscale neighborhoods so that’s an important component. The majority of public school teachers are in school teaching full time, but each state, district,family or building must decide what is best for their children during these unprecedented times.
Of course many city schools have terrible conditions (ventilation, no ac, overcrowding-think Chicago) that the decisions these schools have to make are obviously going to be very different from rural and suburban school districts. That’s why there is no one right answer to “just open all schools .” And what we have been discussing on this blog is how the pandemic has highlighted the inequities and unfair resource distribution in schools throughout our country. I believe everyone is doing the best they can do, given these times.
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Right now we are the one sheep and the four wolves are actively proposing bills and trying to pass legislation to destroy public education. In Ohio our legislators are proposing vouchers for EVERY student. This is beyond worrisome-it is a blatant attempt to narrow the scope of what is taught to students, destroy unions and control the public dollars local districts have worked so hard to obtain. Along with restricting voting, they are doing a fine job of destroying the premise of freedom for all and opportunity for everyone. Don’t buy the lie folks! Fight for our public schools!