Peter Greene is well-known as a blogger, a teacher, a columnist for Forbes, and a humorist. He taught in the public schools of Pennsylvania for nearly 40 years. He wrote this article at my request.
He wrote:
I believe in public education.
I believe in the promise that every child should have a free quality education. And not by going out to shop for it, to hunt it down like looking for deals on a toaster or a used car, nor to travel far from home to find it, nor to have to beg and apply and hope that the school will accept them, but to have it delivered to them in their own community without exception.
Not that we’ve always hit the bullseye in this country. Our system of tying school financing to housing leaves much to be desired. The same forces of racism and economic inequity that twist and turn our society as a whole also leave their mark on our education system. Those forces include the rise of “I’ve got mine, Jack” culture in which folks don’t want to have to worry about what anyone else needs.
We’re living through a time of unprecedented assault on public education. Members of the data cult, free market advocates, social engineers, profiteers and privatizers (some sincere in their concern, and some motivated by base opportunism) are looking for ways to dismantle the system, disenfranchise parents and taxpayers, and to “liberate” billions and billions of taxpayer dollars. Their ranks are filled with education amateurs who don’t really know what the heck they’re talking about.
What none of these disruptors promise is an education system that delivers a quality education to every single child in the country. Nor do they promise accountability to the taxpayers who fund the system, nor a system that is owned and operated by the citizens of the community.
Only public education has those goals as its North Star.
I devoted my professional life to public education because I believe in it. I believe in the goals and promise of public education. I believe that every child in this country deserves a chance to learn, to grow, to discover and become their best selves, to learn what it means to be more fully human in the world (a whole host of things beyond the measure of a bad standardized test). I believe in a system that brings trained, qualified professionals into every community, for every child.
We will always struggle with challenges. What is required for a quality education? How can each child’s individual needs best be mt? What makes a good teacher? But as long as our North Star is the promise of public education, and not a higher test score or a better ROI, we can navigate those difficult discussions. And we can navigate them in a thousand different ways, as individual communities work out the local education system that best suits them.
That’s the other beautiful part of our public education system—it’s not actually one education system, but thousands and thousands of local individual systems set in every kind of community imaginable. All the variety present in America is there in our schools as well. It is a big, beautiful, sprawling, messy monument to our highest aspiration, our dream that every child can grow and rise because we all, together, work to lift every child up.
So I believe in the promise of public education. May we continue to sail toward that North Star.
“We’re living through a time of unprecedented assault on public education. Members of the data cult, free market advocates, social engineers, profiteers and privatizers (some sincere in their concern, and some motivated by base opportunism) are looking for ways to dismantle the system, disenfranchise parents and taxpayers, and to “liberate” billions and billions of taxpayer dollars. Their ranks are filled with education amateurs who don’t really know what the heck they’re talking about. ”
They’re branching out too. The whole ed reform echo chamber are now lobbying to run worker training programs and labor policy.
These people want to put themselves, in the employ of the Walton heirs and Bill Gates, in charge of US labor and workplace policy.
https://www.future-ed.org/a-new-bipartisan-education-agenda/
“In contrast, the new career pathways emerging around the country exemplify what University of Texas law professor Joseph Fishkin calls opportunity pluralism, a move to make the nation’s opportunity infrastructure more pluralistic by offering individuals more pathways to success.”
It’s the same as everything else they do- all privatized, larded with consultants and think tanks, and wholly run and managed by people who have never worked for an hourly wage in their entire lives.
Oh, and Job One will be making sure labor unions are excluded. The aggressively anti-union “ed reform movement” oppose private sector unions with the same ideologically driven ferocity they oppose public sector labor unions.
There are no actual workers or students involved in any of this master planning.
“master planning” — oogh that is a frightening pair of words
How do you mean frightening pair of words? As in “nice rhetoric” or “your rhetoric is showing?”
“Frightening pair” but in what way do you mean that i wonder. As in “wow, nice rhetoric” or “hey, your damn rhetoric is showing?”
Oh, I agree with your words completely: that is why I find them so frightening. So: Wow, nice rhetoric
The assault on public education will continue unless we create policies that will stop it. Billionaires are leading the charge, and the only way to stop them from politicking and rigging the system against public education is to get the money out of politics. Like Scandinavia we need equal campaign dollars that come from the government, not billionaires that seek to dictate policies that undermine democracy. Pasi Sahlberg once said that America does not have an education problem, it has a testing problem, Behind the testing problem are the more than 600 billionaires that are the puppet masters that pull the strings of power in this country. With unchecked billionaire access to dictating public policies, working families in this country do not stand a chance.
I think Biden is the inflection point. If we get another ed reform echo chamber President who follows the agenda to the extent that Bush, Obama and then Trump did, public education will be gone as both a concept and a reality.
This “movement” will be wholly responsible for the demise, too. They all clapped along lockstep at every turn. No real dissent or debate of any kind.
It was inevitable that “liberal” ed reformers would embrace vouchers. Once they all redefined “public” as “publicly funded” their opposition to any of the Right’s education agenda became completely incoherent.
Duncan and DeVos now support the same candidates at the state level. There’s no distinction or difference at all. “Choice” ate everything else, so much so that they’re nearly irrelevant to students and families in public schools, other than testing and policing our students and schools- the policing/regulation they don’t do with their own schools. The agenda is 100% downside for students in public schools. We get all their policy impositions and mandates but none of their support.
As long as candidates take billionaire dollars, they are beholden to them. With billionaire thumbs on the scales, there will be no justice. All these neoliberal schemes that seek to financialize everything and anything are designed to make the oligarchs wealthier and more powerful. The workforce plan is a perfect example of the wealthy placing blue collar kids in a permanent state of indentured servitude. We would expect this from the Mafia, not the government. By the way labor unions already offer training apprenticeship programs where young people receive training and work at lower pay, but after five years they are free to do as they please. https://nabtu.org/apprenticeship-and-training/
@rt
Im not precisely sure but i think this exact sets of rhetorics were used in combat with theists, ages ago. Now these sets seem to be deployed by the theists to combat ourselves….
Have you all ever considered the invasion at the southern border was the catholic 200 year invasion plan?
Note, the country was founded by people fleeing catholic tyranny and the constitution was written to give us the tools fight slime like them.
Now, the catholics have the top 3 seats of government, completley and intransigently oppose border security, and they’re trying to get your right of self defense from us.
Now, the catholics have the top 3 seats of government. Theyre completley and intransigently oppose border security. AND they’re trying to get our right of self defense from us…
Rt did you teach public school or did you really just only mop it…
You’re very suspicious in that regard.
We would expect this from the Mafia, not the government.
Fool, who do you think are the top three politicians in power right now?
Really rt, i challenge you to demonstrate what you think you know about the mafia….
“Bruno Manno is a senior advisor to the K-12 program at the Walton Family Foundation. Lynn Olson is principal at Lynn Olson LLC and a FutureEd senior fellow.
The Walton Family Foundation supports FutureEd financially. ”
The echo chamber branches out and swallows yet another area of US policy.
The Walton heirs will now be running US workforce training and labor policy. You could weep. This is the “bipartisan consensus”. Good Lord.
There’s nothing less partisan about bipartisanship. For fact, it’s partisanship x2. Bipartisanship is two politicans agreeing on a particular path of how to mutually benefit from fking their constituents.
We need more than two dimensions of thought in government.
Is there any discussion in the echo chamber on how they plan on continuing to police public schools and impose an ever-changing list of negative and punitive mandates on our schools when they lobby for no regulation and a voucher-funded system for the charter and private schools they hope to replace public schools with?
They understand this “movement” is on a collision course with itself, right?
What’s the plan? Public schools will still be forced to adopt any scheme these people come up while publicly funded private schools will not? How is that a good deal for public schools? There will be one set of schools with a public duty and another set of preferred schools who are exempt? What’s the difference? They’re funding it all publicly now. Why do our schools get stuck with policy written by the Walton Family and private schools do not?
Because loading the public schools down makes the private more attractive (see Florida). Plus, public schools will be for Those Peoples’ Children, and you know how They are.
The real issue is the 1% are fighting you for political power and just like you theyre about themselves and no one else. Say what you say talk what you talk but unless you’re cross classing in computer programming language, you’re done for. Everything in every school is already on the internet. By all legitimate score, we’re all educated. We all have the right to use the www. You’ve already been completely replaced and you dont even know it yet. You’ll flip flop either way, left or right, but the fact remains, you’re a dying fish thrown out on the curb. And you let the catholics get away with anything. School shootings happen for a reason, they want to fking shoot you. Its better that you let ai handle this one from now on.
I completely believe in public education also. But it’s time for this one to metamorphosis. This is an age of freedom of information that far surpasses all our outdated infrastructure. When any given person can have more tools in the palm of their hand than an entire state library system, school system, and universities all at once, what need have we of they as they are? We can litterally have all that in the palm of our hand for less than 20 usd. Public education accounts for three trillion of our budget. We could be using just a fraction of that while doing a better job. If we let everyone out of school for one year and took that 3tril to microsoft and said, “give us a nation wide super computer to replace our entire public education staff,” we’d be a star on a world and In just three more years.
If we dont, someone else will.
I fully believe in public education too. But you folks, yer just tenured charter paranas wearing “i care” buttons.
When you want to put out a fire, you starve it of oxygen. Then, the fire burns out by itself.
When you spill less than five gallons of fuel you burn it into the air rather than leave it on the ground.
Public education is a dead duck. Best to burn it and finish it off. If prohramming language isnt a core class begining at 5th grade, youve been pissing away our future for too long.
You cant exist without government to step in and support you. When a business cant stand up on its own, it shouldnt be in business.
Everything you teach is already freely available to the public at anytime. You intentionaly teach dinosaur crap. The most recent entire graduating class doesnt even know the word dixiecrat besides having one on office now.
You just teach kids how to be dog food in a dog eat dog world. My cellphome can do a better job. Go away and go crossclass in everything you dont teach, that just like the students you doom on a daily basis, you’ll need to know just to survive the next decade..
You are probably ignorant, and maybe a fool.
Your premise is that education is about learning facts.
Are you a teacher? (I teach 7th & 8th grade math)
ACADEMICALLY, education is about teaching thinking skills. We let them use computers, honey. We teach them how to think critically about what they read. Maybe you should, too.
I have a spot open in my class. Want it?
It doesn’t change your point, but the actual annual expenditure on public ed (including fed, state & municipal) is under a third of that. In 2017 it totalled 705 billion. That was 17% of all govt expenditures that year [4.15 trillion fed, 3 trillion state & local combined]
oops I mean about 10% (not 17%)
AP has no point except to insult, put down and demean public school teachers. And he does this with a plethora of spelling, grammatical and syntax gaffes. The notion that you can totally replace brick and mortar public schools and their teachers with technology is ludicrous. Technology, computers, the World Wide Web can enhance and enrich the in-person educational experience, they can be useful tools but not a replacement for actual human in the flesh teachers.
I got my data right off the department of educations own data. Perhaps you forgot i said k-12 and only looked at highschool data.
Same source I used. This page says $739billion for schoolyear 2016-2017 (not $705, that turned out to be the # for the previous year) https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=66
At joe, just shut yer ad hom whore hole.
Debate the message not the messenger.
And go read a list of fallacies like you had a hope in hell of changing your habits. Thx
And he does this with a plethora of spelling, grammatical and syntax gaffes.
So easy to cause pretentious pedants pain.
Click to access sthistbypr17.pdf
There apears to be some discrepancies in the recent available data then.
“If we let everyone out of school for one year and took that 3tril to microsoft and said, “give us a nation wide super computer to replace our entire public education staff,” we’d be a star on a world and In just three more years.”
Is this satire?
We shouldn’t feed the troll
Nope. Its a statment im claiming is true. We could literaly all have one single teacher. What better way for their existing supercomputers to conduct its nation wide domestic spy program? I mean if youre going use cell phones for it in conjunction with massive data centers, why hide it? Why not instead let it go public knowlage and double down on it with a nation wide super computer teacher ai? If all you’re using it for now is to look for spies terrorists and perverts, why not expand on that? Its not like spies terrorists and perverts dont already know it, and thats already a measurable portion of the total population. I’d hazatd that as at least 75%. Just look here. Some of the people here are just innocent idiots, true. But the rest of you are all of the above minus innocent.
Fane your ignorance if you must. But you’re not fooling anyone.
What nation couldnt benefit from a central super computer god?
Preemptive counterpoint. Small minds, small reactionary forehead puke.
(Troll accusation)
Ungrateful child, emphasis “un-great” dont disrespect your parents.
Roy
Fane your ignorance if you must.
Sdp
https://dianeravitch.net/2021/04/12/peter-greene-i-believe-in-public-education/comment-page-1/#comment-3217194
Note tho, it’s easy to “fane you ignorence.”
Your so vein
You probly think this comments about you
You probly think this comments about you
Don’t you?
Don’t you?
Don’t you?
Not sure but pretty sure i remember that song’s writer deeply regreting having produced that song. Actually im not sure im not sure.
It was about her ex. She hated hearing it over and over. Im not sure why she had to personaly tell me that. I never paid any attention to it. To suggest otherwise perhaps? Why do you bring it up? Feeling a lack of privacy in your under garments? Or perhaps youre making an accusation about my points about cell phones? As if they should seem suspicious to anyone? You slime have to be the slimyest slime ive ever seen slume across a page. And you have the gal to wonder why your own children want to shoot you? No, you slime arent really wondering. You want gun control because you know exactly why it’s legirimate that all your own children want to shoot you and blow you up.
“No, he specifically said to find and conduct opperations on anyone who could be confused as being white supremacists” janet reno 1997
Not really worthy of a response, but what the heck, I’ll bite. Education is not the same as access to information.
True, but with that kind of access to information, you have to revolutionize what’s fit for public education, and, who should be doing it. You already have to dramatically alter the curriculum, may as well simultaneously alter the delivery method. An “age of free information” is either followed by an age of desolation or… pfft yeah, no, yer fked. Go get an naa mini revolver.
Arizona is the new Florida:
https://www.redefinedonline.org/2021/04/orleans-county-arizona/
Another miraculous success for privatization!
Apparently we need to completely privatize the last remaining universal public system in the United States to get a “6.9%” gain in…whatever it is they are measuring.
No, not at all true ideologically-driven believers who focus solely on privatization. Not at all! They haven’t ACTUALLY banned public schools, have they? They allow some to exist!
Who cares about privatizing at a time like this? The whole thing needs to be automated.
Adam peterson. Here is what “freedom of information” (as you call it) can lead to.
“Half of Republicans believe false accounts of deadly U.S. Capitol riot-Reuters/Ipsos poll,”
Reuters: “Three months after a mob of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol to try to overturn his November election loss, about half of Republicans believe the siege was largely a non-violent protest or was the handiwork of left-wing activists ‘trying to make Trump look bad,’ a new Reuters/Ipsos poll has found.
“Six in 10 Republicans also believe the false claim put out by Trump that November’s presidential election ‘was stolen’ from him due to widespread voter fraud, and the same proportion of Republicans think he should run again in 2024.” https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/poll-half-republicans-believe-false-accounts-deadly-us-capitol-riot-rcna595
Freedom of information is not the same as being well-informed and able to judge trustworthy information. Moreover, for teachers working in public schools, there is NOT freedom to teach anything unless the content is approved. Here is the truth of “freedom” to teach and learn.
Source is MARK WALSH, OCTOBER 21, 2010 EDWEEK.
Teachers have no First Amendment free-speech protection for curricular decisions they make in the classroom, a federal appeals court ruled on Thursday.
“Only the school board has ultimate responsibility for what goes on in the classroom, legitimately giving it a say over what teachers may (or may not) teach in the classroom,” the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit, in Cincinnati, said in its opinion.
The decision came in the case of an Ohio teacher whose contract was not renewed in 2002 after community controversy over reading selections she assigned to her high school English classes. These included Siddhartha, by Herman Hesse, and a unit on book censorship in which the teacher allowed students to pick books from a list of frequently challenged works, and some students chose Heather Has Two Mommies, by Leslea Newman.
A group of 500 parents petitioned the school board against the teacher, Shelley Evans-Marshall, calling for “decency and excellence” in the classroom. The teacher also had various run-ins with her principal. Despite positive performance reviews before the controversy, the principal’s evaluations afterwards criticized Evans-Marshall’s attitude and demeanor and her “use of material that is pushing the limits of community standards.” The school board in March 2002 decided not to renew her contract, citing “problems with communications and teamwork.”
Evans-Marshall sued the Tipp City, Ohio, school district and various officials in 2003, alleging that her termination violated her First Amendment free-speech rights. In 2005, she won a ruling from the 6th Circuit that allowed her case to survive a motion to dismiss by the defendants. The court said at that time that it appeared that Evans-Marshall’s termination was “due to a public outcry engendered by the assignment of protected material that had been approved by the board.”
The suit proceeded to discovery until the school district defendants sought summary judgment last year. A federal district court granted the defendants’ motion on the grounds that Evans-Marshall could not prove a link between the community outcry and the school board’s decision not to renew her.
In its Oct. 21 decision in Evans-Marshall v. Board of Education of the Tipp City Exempted Village School District, a 6th Circuit panel ruled unanimously for the school district and other defendants, but on other grounds. (The appeals panel said the teacher had clearly shown that “her teaching choices caused the school board to fire her.”)
But while Evans-Marshall’s case satisfied two earlier Supreme Court standards on public-employee speech (Pickering and Connick), she could not survive the court’s most recent decision in this area: Garcetti v. Ceballos. In Garcetti, decided in 2006, the high court held that public employees do not have First Amendment protection for speech “pursuant to” their official duties.
“In the light cast by Garcetti, it is clear that the First Amendment does not generally insulate Evans-Marshall from employer discipline, even discipline prompted by her curricular and pedagogical choices and even if it otherwise appears (at least on summary judgment) that the school administrators treated her shabbily,” said the 6th Circuit opinion by Judge Jeffrey S. Sutton.
“When a teacher teaches, the school system does not regulate that speech as much as it hires that speech,” Sutton wrote, borrowing language from a 7th Circuit decision in a similar case. “Expression is a teacher’s stock in trade, the commodity she sells to her employer in exchange for a salary. And if it is the school board that hires that speech, it can surely regulate the content of what is or is not expressed, what is expressed in other words on its behalf.”
Sutton questioned how a school system could operate if all teachers had First Amendment rights to make their own curricular decisions.
“Evans-Marshall may wish to teach Siddhartha in the first unit of the school year in a certain way, but the chair of the English department may wish to use the limited time in a school year to teach A Tale of Two Cities at that stage of the year,” Sutton wrote.
“When educators disagree over what should be assigned, as is surely bound to happen if each of them has a First Amendment right to influence the curriculum, whose free-speech rights win? …
Placing the First Amendment’s stamp of approval on these kinds of debates not only would demand permanent judicial intervention in the conduct of governmental operations, but it also would transform (many) curricular disputes into constitutional stalemates.” https://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/10a0334p-06.pdf See another case where criticism of school policies are front and center. https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/648/pickering-v-board-of-education
for years and years, southern history teachers presented students with views of the American Civil War that would not offend their students or parents. The historical truth of the matter was often something else.
You need to stop worrying about what color bag of slime you have in charge and start worrying about having a rainbow bag of slime in charge.
Whats worse to national security than exposing your afghan pederast heroin cartel war crimes? Internationally putting it’s ring leaders back in charge perhaps?
DING DING DING!!
If it was public school that graduated you people? Burn it. Burn it with fire. Burn it for good.
It’s even worse than that. My sister-in-law, hails from Midland, Texas, insisted at a family gathering last weekend, that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery. It was about “states’ rights.” SMDH
Oh, and i suppose lincoln feed the slave too? The civil war did nothing to end slavery. Your sister in law has a perfectly valid opinion. The slaves were cheated and freed in name only. All the civil war did was change slavery into an even wirse land barron slavery model. Jimmy hoffa and union organizers freed the slaves.
Im not taling about entertainment media or news sources. Btw, subjectively, im neither republican nor democrat or any other noun anyone can conjure, also objectively not a noun. Im not part of any group, movement or cult. Im a disenfrachised rational person disenfranchised for being rational and part of neither group. Both groups exist to pretend to oppose eachother while really just disenfranchising anyone who foesnt join any groups that offer a clear threat of consequences. The fact is, there’s no “news” outlet you can count on. If you thought otherwise, you’re insain. After the successful trump election, you’re pretending the republicans dont know what a rigged election looks like? The guys who just rigged it, didnt know it? You know you’re as much as a partosan stooge as you apear to be, dont you?
What leftists are has far exceeded an honest hypocrit and gone full throttle enemy subversive aligning with misandrists, pederasts, catamites, jesuit facists, homosexual supremecists(meaning lgbt uber alis) heroin cartels, and complete utter douche bags. Between us both, you and me, no one respects trump. Who in their right mind would pivot to swine flu under a pretense of if it could kill millions of people rather than to cite jHoe obiden’s afghan pederast heroin cartel heroin wich did in fact kill millions. “Not could have,” but rather, “verifiably fking did.” What slime would hide that even for his own political ass? Because it makes the nation look bad? THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS except YOU(supposedly) yeah, not very plausably deniable imho since most of you here verifiably are a wing of the lgbt propoganda outlets. We just re-installed the champion of tranny’s (see bacha bazi) who just operated the biggest pedetast heroin cartel in world history under the pretense of if they could ever possibly control an afghan pederast heroin cartel…. you cant even control a south american catholic pederast heroin cartel, what kind of dope were tou on when you thought you could crontrol an afghan pederast heroin cartel?
By forcing trump to very obviously pivot to swine flu instead of the afghan pederast heroin cartel, he’s now just as complicit as you are now. And since you reinstalled the exact same bucket of slime that lost control of it, WE’RE ALL NOW AN AFGHAN PEDERAST HEROIN CARTEL. All the world’s, all our allies chilsren now have us to point the finger for why their children got hooked on dope and list or ruined their lives.
Honestly, im only jealous of jHoe for possibly killing as many disgusting bags of slime as i have. But you, you’re trying to make me guilty of fooling you to do it for me.
Honestly, im only jealous of jHoe for possibly killing as many disgusting bags of slime as i have. But you, you’re trying to make me guilty of fooling you to do it for me.
So dont talk to me like i don’t lnow for a fact the last election was rigged.
Thank those fbi agents that stormed the capital like they were outraged citizens. They’re the last sliver of a chance you have to be able to tell your kids you werent knowungly complicit with war crimes.
“age of freedom of information”
Was the full quote, and i mispoke. I mean to say, “age of free information.” Must have had some foir business on my mind.
That we’re not enforcing a fairness doctrin of any kind is quite taxing, you’re right. Pretty much every single potus has at one point or another has called for it. The potus is now literally just the office of the elected clown. jHoe obiden’s own amputated brain tumors had more iq…
Centralizing all of our core education to just one core that everyone shared, would go a long way on its own to satisfy most any educational mishandling with public schooling. No one whould accuse specific schools teachers and admin. No school or school board would be such a perfect place for dope dealers as they are now.
I think anyone could only struggle to come up with a valid counterpoint. Seems like the opposition is trying to draw that an impersonal education is lower quality but those fools dont conjure an ai can supply that too. Imagine the people that go years later to randomly visit an old teacher who might possibly still remember them. Their piddly minds stuck in the techno dark ages of vhs tapes, beta cassets and tape decks. Imagine the teacher remembers you perfectly, even better than humanly possible. Wouldnt that be a moving event, hmm? Dont even try the education is an interaction ploy. It’s all day fail town with that nonsense.
After that there’s the diversity issue. AI is vastly under represented in education these days.
Just because i have no respect for partisan hacks dont then go thinking i have any respect for bipartisan hacks either.
And frankly,
Thank those fbi agents that stormed the capital like they were outraged citizens. They’re the last sliver of a chance you have to be able to tell your kids you werent knowingly complicit with war crimes.
Large cities in the early days of firefighting once were served by competing fire companies who would race to the scene of a fire in order to be the company that received payment for suppressing the fire. These companies would often fight over who got to put out the fire while the fire burned.
I know of no other anecdote that more clearly illustrates the constraints on the private sector as the agent of delivery of services. Will charter schools ever try to hurt each other by making their competition look worse? Stay tuned.
“Will charter schools ever etc etc etc.”
How many citations can be found of public schools doing all of those things?
You’re rhetoric is wildly insulting.
Fane your ignorance
If you must
Vain is in your hands
Baring blood
Issuing condemnations necessitates the cindition of vanity? If i were vain id be using my own name instead of a rooky serial killer i caught. Besides that, what fear should have of either apearing vain or the blood i’m still dripping? The topic includes all that ways public edication is failing. I should leave something out?
Peter Green says that “Not that we’ve always hit the bullseye in this country”. I don’t think we have ever hit the bullseye in this country. We have not even gotten close. I am curious about peoples opinion on this. Has there ever been a time when public schools in the United States matched what Peter believes in?
We are all in need of common courtesy, common values, a commitment to democracy and education for our future together. That can only be achieved if we are all educated together. PAYING for public schools us essential to Democracy!
In what way does public school promote democracy? How many times a day does a public school teacher anounce their class isnt a democracy?
Attempting verifiably false rhetoric is so insulting. How stupid do you think everyone is?
The fact that our public education system is not one big monster that can easily be controlled by Bill Gates, a Walton, and/or a Koch is the reason those billionaire oligarchs and others are doing everything they can to destroy OUR many community-based, democratic, local public school districts.
So many demons. Oligarchs, billionaires, etc etc, couple name drops, blah blah conspiracy, “no you’re the conspiracy theorists, rubber not glue, watter off a duck’s back, all problems no solutions, blah bla etc bla.
Note i said AI. And i meant to expand on it but i just wanted to give you the chance demonstrate your hypocrisy. There might still be someone that might respects you as a human being, yasee.
“big monster”
dont say things you cant take back. It will still be able to read this later yaknow….
“destroy OUR many community-based bla blah”
Just after writing about drive by’s murders, suicides, murder/suicides, mortality rate of tge students you taught….
Yeahhh.. m’kay..
“big monster”
Dont say things you cant take back, she can still read this youknow.
“easily be controlled by”
Bringing 3 trillion to the table you think you cant negotiate with a piddly billionaire for a self expanding backdoorless AI?
When you could instead all be “co-chillin-ity-b-sipping-d, de-nude beach-ic, lo-anywhere-al pu-in the world-ic sc-fool-ol districts” ?
“Intransigent” has hit a new peak of mindlessness. Or is that depth… pfft.
“This classroom is not a democracy!”
Pfft well fk you then (: