The New York Times has a full copy of Trump’s tax returns. No mention of how they got them. Part 2 is a dissection of how eagerly he exploited his name and monetized his brand, no matter how low he had to go, including selling laundry detergent.
It begins:
From the back seat of a stretch limousine heading to meet the first contestants for his new TV show “The Apprentice,” Donald J. Trump bragged that he was a billionaire who had overcome financial hardship.
“I used my brain, I used my negotiating skills and I worked it all out,” he told viewers. “Now, my company is bigger than it ever was and stronger than it ever was.”
It was all a hoax.
Months after that inaugural episode in January 2004, Mr. Trump filed his individual tax return reporting $89.9 million in net losses from his core businesses for the prior year. The red ink spilled from everywhere, even as American television audiences saw him as a savvy business mogul with the Midas touch.
Twelve years later, that image of the self-made, self-saved mogul, beamed into the national consciousness, would help fuel Mr. Trump’s improbable election to the White House.
But while the story of “The Apprentice” is by now well known, the president’s tax returns reveal another grand twist that has never been truly told — how the popularity of that fictional alter ego rescued him, providing a financial lifeline to reinvent himself yet again. And then how, in an echo of the boom-and-bust cycle that has defined his business career, he led himself toward the financial shoals he must navigate today.
Mr. Trump’s genius, it turned out, wasn’t running a company. It was making himself famous — Trump-scale famous — and monetizing that fame.
By analyzing the tax records, The New York Times was able to place a value on Mr. Trump’s celebrity. While the returns show that he earned some $197 million directly from “The Apprentice” over 16 years — roughly in line with what he has claimed — they also reveal that an additional $230 million flowed from the fame associated with it.
Tax records show that Donald Trump earned $197 million directly from “The Apprentice,” and $230 million from licensing and endorsement deals that followed. Bill Tompkins/Getty Images
The show’s big ratings meant that everyone wanted a piece of the Trump brand, and he grabbed at the opportunity to rent it out. There was $500,000 to pitch Double Stuf Oreos, another half-million to sell Domino’s Pizza and $850,000 to push laundry detergent.
There were seven-figure licensing deals with hotel builders, some with murky backgrounds, in former Soviet republics and other developing countries. And there were schemes that exploited misplaced trust in the TV version of Mr. Trump, who, off camera, peddled worthless get-rich-quick nostrums like “Donald Trump Way to Wealth” seminars that promised initiation into “the secrets and strategies that have made Donald Trump a billionaire.”

It’s a like a mirage…a vision completely made up. The problem is, there are too many factions that still are broadcasting how magnificent and intelligent this fake imaginary character is.
Example: The nomination [Nobel Peace Prize] comes at the hands of a group of four Australian law professors who are attributing it to the president’s astounding and unique approach to foreign policy which they are calling the “Trump doctrine.”
“The ‘Trump doctrine’ is so extraordinary, as so many things that Donald Trump does, he’s guided by two things which seem to be absent from so many politicians. He has firstly common sense. And he is only guided by a national interest, and therefore, in our circumstances, an interest in the Western alliance,” one of the professors David Flint said during a virtual appearance Monday on Sky News
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Imagine all the law-suits that will be filed by some of the corporations that hired him to promote their products now that they know it was all a con based on lies.
If Trump is booted out of the White House on January 20, 2021, the Trump five could be in court for the rest of their lives and the lives of their children.
The Trump Five:
Donald the Orange Buffoon
Ivanka
DT Jr.
Eric
and Kushner.
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I hope Karlie kloss will be ok. She is married to the other Kushner, but she has reminded people often that she is voting for Biden, just as she voted for Hillary in 2016. She will be ok, if she continues to work out, and pays her taxes.
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“In the end, the burden is on those watching.”
Yeah, each voter should determine the truth? I think Fox people will determine their version of truth even though it doesn’t match reality. This is a copout. Trump has no idea what the truth is and neither do any of his followers. Debates should be fact-checking exercises.
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Debates: Not for Fact-Checking?
The Washington Post counts more than 20,000 false or misleading claims made by Donald Trump during his presidency, but when Trump meets Joe Biden in their first televised debate tonight, fact-checking won’t be the focus of moderator Chris Wallace, the Fox host has said. A co-chair of The Commission on Presidential Debates has said it’s not Wallace’s job.
At The Atlantic, CBS host and presidential-history buff John Dickerson supports this approach. Debates are more than fact-checking exercises, Dickerson writes: They’re opportunities to see how candidates reason, behave, and try to make sense. When it comes to lies or falsehoods, “[v]iewers don’t have to rely on moderators or candidates to do all the fact-checking,” Dickerson writes. “In the end, the burden is on those watching. They can evaluate the post-debate coverage, which offers context about the tonnage of falsehoods and which candidate was responsible for the larger share. Not all deception is alike, and some infractions are worse than others. Rather than expect Wallace or anyone else to establish the truth live, citizens would be wiser to wait and weigh all the evidence before reaching what should still be a grave conclusion: that, with the whole world watching, a candidate chose not to tell the truth.”
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I worry about fact-checking.
It seems like equal weight is given to misstatements and blatant lies designed to mislead.
I expect Biden can say “Trump’s response to the pandemic has led to 215,000 dead” and the fact check will be “4 Pinnochios, Biden said a total lie, only 212,000 Americans are dead”. And Trump can say “Biden is demented because he told a crowd that he attended a HBCU” and the fact check will be “half true, Biden did refer to going to a HBCU, but didn’t elaborate so it’s possible he meant something else.”
The fact checks seem to always bend over backward to find some truth in Republican comments that are spoken entirely to deceive! And they also bend over backward to find “lies” and nefarious motives in comments by democrats that are spoken simply to inform.
Joe Biden, when did you stop beating your wife? And no matter what he answers, the fact checkers will no doubt find something that they can mischaracterize as a lie.
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And then we have Tony Schwartz who ghost wrote this creature into a fantasy island of voters, Russian techno mobsters, right wing plutocrats & think tankers, corporate media hypers, street thugs and racist wall builders.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all
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Trying to watch the debate, UGH! Trump is conducting a filibuster and keeps interrupting Biden. Wallace tells Trump to obey the debate protocols to no avail. This is hell.
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It’s impossible to debate someone that refuses to follow rules. As teachers, we know there should be consequences for breaking rules. Trump should get one warning. If he refuses to follow the rules, they turn off his microphone while Biden speaks or Trump loses his time. Enough of this man’s eternal rudeness. He thinks rules are for the little people like taxes.
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“Trump’s Feral Debate; Call Animal Control” (media headline).
And, that’s the candidate that the conservative religious support.
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That has to be the most frightening display of the unfitness of President Trump ever.
I would get out the vote for John Kasich if he was running against Trump. I would get out the vote for Mike Bloomberg. And I despise both of them. And so I’m happy to have a very good, albeit flawed, Joe Biden whose heart and MIND are in the right place to vote for.
Anyone who is not voting for Joe Biden and the entire Democrat slate up and down the line is no different than a suicide bomber. President Trump is the most destructive president – including Nixon – I have ever seen. Nixon remaining in power would have been horrible but he would not have acted to destroy the US itself to hang onto it (in fact, he stepped down).
But Trump will take us all with him. He needs to leave for democracy to survive. And anyone who is still trying to smear Biden as “demented” or unfit or too right wing is no better than a suicide bomber who wants to kill democracy and doesn’t mind dying with it.
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Well said. Under the circumstances, I think Biden did a good job and got in a few good jabs at the demagogue.
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The debate tonight.
The Daily Show nailed it regarding Trump’s childish bullying and interruptions:
“Chris Wallace’s debate performance tonight is a great reminder that kindergarten teachers are underpaid.”
That’s not fair to kindergartners, ofc. Trump is much less well behaved and less decent than they are. And not a whit more knowledgeable.
Trump also made it clear that if the election is close or contested, he plans to encourage rioting in the streets. He said about this, “Proud boys, stand back and stand by.”
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I saw that tweet by Trevor Noah, too! It was spot on!
I also read this comment (a stranger posting in response to a news article) which also nailed what happened:
“The two candidates didn’t say anything that we haven’t heard before. So the debate adds nothing except as a display of character and discipline. And trump showed zero self discipline and zero intention to follow agreed upon rules of engagement.”
The president, above all, needs character and discipline. Even if I was choosing between a moderate and progressive and liked the progressive’s views better, I believe I could never vote for a person who behaved like Trump tonight. It doesn’t matter what someone like that SAYS they support, because a toddler’s promises are worthless.
There are probably quite a few 12 year olds who could handle the job of a president better than Trump.
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Nancy Pelosi was not in favor of the debates. She said, “Why bother?” She was right. I hope the other debates are canceled. There is nothing more to be learned if the moderator cannot put a leash on the pit bull.
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Wallace is an incompetent debate moderator. He let chaos ensue and did nothing about it.
The debates are basically a joke since the League of Women Voters refused to go along with the demands of the two major parties and the Parties now effectively run them.
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Wallace did a very poor job of moderating. I think this debate was a disaster.
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Fact-checking the first Trump-Biden presidential debate
In the contentious first presidential debate between President Trump and former vice president Joe Biden, Trump repeatedly relied on troublesome and false assertions that have been debunked throughout his presidency. Biden, by contrast, stretched the truth on occasion.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/30/fact-checking-first-trump-biden-presidential-debate/
First 2020 Presidential Debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden
C-SPAN
President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden participate in the first 2020 presidential debate in Cleveland, OH
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An automated debate moderator would have done a much better job than Wallace did.
Wallace should have made it clear that if the interruptions continued, the microphone would be muted.
In fact, it should be a general policy to mute the microphone of the person who is not responding to the question so that while one person is talking, the other is physically prevented from replying.
There is actually no excuse for allowing the sort of preventable chaos that occurred.
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I totally agree. Like a child Trump needs consequences. It is the only way to control the bully. The press probably likes the debate to be disruptive with lots of viewers to witness the meltdown. This was not a debate. It was a sideshow.
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Poet- the argument against muting is that media’s top management believes spectacle creates ratings. And, the feral Fox. among the 4 networks, cares most about ratings
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OMG can we please stop enabling President Trump by doing exactly what we have done for the last 4 years and blaming someone else for his performance. Trump has become the man he is because his entire life – from childhood to now – has been about blaming someone else for what he does.
Chris Wallace was FINE. Seriously, he was fine. In fact, better than fine. A few questions to Biden accepted the right wing narrative, but overall I was impressed that he asked real follow-up questions, even when Trump tried to answer with a rant.
The debate yesterday was the worst debate ever because of DONALD TRUMP. He is who he is. He showed us who he is.
You are teachers, right??
Imagine your job is to lead a discussion of the Civil War in a class. As in most classes, some students were eager to participate, some were half engaged, a few seemed bored or tired. If you had an 18 year old like Trump in your class who was none of those, but who spent the entire class doing nothing but loudly rant, yell insults and attacks every time you or one of the other students who wanted to learn spoke, and kept interrupting all of you, no matter how many times you asked him and told him to stop, who is to blame for the ensuing chaos?
If that 18 year old was Trump, apparently there would be two views:
The first is that “the students in the class are so terrible and horribly behaved, what is wrong with all those kids?” Let’s the one disruptive kid off the hook by just complaining about “the disruptive kids”
The second is “there was one disruptive student but the teacher was really horrible and she didn’t know how to control him and if she had only been a good teacher and knew how to control that disruptive student the class would have been better.” Let’s the one disruptive kid off the hook by saying that the disruptive kid would have turned into a scholar if the teacher had been better.
Of course it is always possible that a teacher is so inept that a student is acting out who would not be acting out with a different teacher. And clearly there is a difference between a 5 year old in kindergarten disrupting a class and an 18 year old.
But in this case, we all got to watch the entire class from start to finish! And it was a class of adults. There was absolutely nothing that Chris Wallace could do. NOTHING.
Wallace had the same two choices that a teacher did: continue to try to teach/run the debate, or have someone trained in dealing with these kinds of 18 year olds come in to remove him. But there was absolutely nothing that Chris Wallace could say or do that would get Trump to change his behavior at that time. Wallace did a perfectly acceptable job under trying conditions. Biden did an even better job in trying conditions.
If that debate was bad, it was because of Trump. Trump, alone. No one else to blame but Trump. No different format, no different moderate would have made that debate anything but a fiasco because of Trump.
This seems like saying all schools should be changed to a new system where teachers are no longer teaching live classes because one 18 year old student does nothing but scream loud insults and attacks the entire class and will not stop.
Trump is enabled by people who don’t even intend to enable him!! the right wing propaganda has become so pervasive that it has seeped into our minds and beliefs!
Don’t blame Chris Wallace. This is all on Trump. He showed us who he is.
I agree with those who say no more debates.
A president who can’t manage a 90 minute debate should not be in office.
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I think Wallace was fine in an almost impossible job. What should he have done? Cut Trump’s microphone? Physically restrain Trump?
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The debate…..I don’t know why I decided to turn on the TV since I knew it would be as bad as I thought it would be. This was simply a dumpster fire and time that I can never get back. I had the pleasure of watching this nightmare with my 16 yr old son who thought that Trump’s antics were worse than teenage boys. I don’t know if I will be able to watch the next 2? Maybe they should put both candidates in separate plexiglass boxes and block their microphone after their 2 minutes of time. All I know is that the Proud Boys will be “standing by”….makes me feel all warm and comfy (NOT!!!).
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What an embarrassment Trump is.
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This is news from Canada. Contempt on the L and compassion on the R. Click on the link to see the photo.
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Joe and Jill Biden, right; and Donald and Melania Trump after Tuesday’s debate. (Morry Gash/AP Photo/Bloomberg/Getty Images)
Compassion versus Donald Trump
Image of the Week: A moment captured after the debate illustrates the one useful distinction that Tuesday’s fiasco revealed
By Michael Fraiman
September 30, 2020
In a presidential debate that seemed perfectly at home near the end of a surreal and appalling year, Trump vs. Biden was, as one CNN correspondent aptly put it, a “sh–show“. But for all the failures it highlighted in modern American politics, the televised train wreck nonetheless underscored the fundamental difference between these two flawed candidates: compassion versus aggression. After the deaths of 200,000 Americans due to COVID-19, Joe Biden’s campaign is pushing the compassionate angle hard, attempting to coalesce anti-racism protests with the nation’s deeply flawed health-care system. Given Biden’s traumatic personal background—the death of his wife and infant daughter in 1972, and the death of his son Beau Biden in 2015—leaning into empathy makes sense. During the debate, one of his stronger moments came when he flipped Trump’s attack on his only living son, Hunter Biden, who has openly suffered from substance addiction: “My son, like a lot of people, like a lot of people you know at home, had a drug problem. He’s overtaken it. He’s fixed it, he’s worked on it and I’m proud of him.” Contrast that with Trump, who preferred to exhibit what he surely believes was unrelenting strength, but what in truth came across as classic bullying, ceaseless interruptions, petulant deflections and aggressive attacks. After the debate, the two candidates’ wives approached the podium, resulting in this image that perfectly encapsulates the distinction: one man embraces his mask-wearing wife, the other stares away from his wife in contempt of his rival.
https://www.macleans.ca/politics/washington/compassion-versus-donald-trump/
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I knew that the far R media would say Trump won. This gem comes from Mad Patriot News:
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First Presidential Debate Quick Take: Aggressive Trump, Old Biden
September 30, 2020 Ryan Green
Andrew Sullivan: “I’ve never seen Biden seem so old or so weak. He can’t land a strong blow. He’s being successfully heckled. I want to look away.”
What a s–tshow. Chris Wallace was horrible, at times literally arguing with Trump, and continually reprimanding Trump for interrupting when interruptions were bipartisan during the debate — Biden did it continually.
Hard to assess who “won” — I’m too close to it.
Trump did very well on law and order. Just when Biden had a potentially deadly moment of debate silence when Trump pressed him to name a single law enforcement group that supported Biden, and Biden had no answer, Wallace saved him by changing the subject.
I don’t think Trump won people over, but I could see Biden’s image as the supposed nice guy being damaged.
I value Andrew Sullivan’s view on this because he hates Trump and supports Biden, but he’s willing to speak some truth on this. He thought Biden did horribly:
Maybe that’s the only takeaway, that Biden came across as weak. It’s one I’m seeing from a lot of lefties on Twitter.
Update: I just switched to MSNBC and CNN, and they seem to agree with Sullivan that Trump dominated (of course, that means Orange Man Bad to them):
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“Dominated?”
The “lefties” that you hear were just looking for a reason to criticize Biden.
Andrew Sullivan has never been insightful. He is a longtime conservative who only became a Democrat when the homophobic Christian right took over the Republican party.
Biden showed the most strength. To remain calm and collected while someone is haranguing and interrupting you for 90 minutes is a feat of strength that most of us don’t have. I can’t imagine Bernie Sanders in that situation. He would have tried to talk more aggressively perhaps, and that would have backfired, too, since biased sources would have said they were equally bad. Because Biden mostly was able to stay above the fray, that meme that the right is trying so hard to push that “both sides” were equally bad isn’t working.
Just saying that polls showed 60% thought Biden won, so he didn’t look old and weak compared to Trump.
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