There is one basic principle that must be honored in deciding whether and when to reopen schools: SAFETY FIRST.
No child or teacher or staff member should die because of a rush to reopen.
NBC News reported:
WASHINGTON — As the calls from the White House to fully reopen schools grow louder, evidence continues to pile up to show that scenario is unlikely to happen, at least not on the national scale President Donald Trump desires. That’s not because state and local officials aren’t trying, but because the spread of the virus is beginning to overwhelm even the best-laid plans.
Dallas Independent School District Superintendent Michael Hinojosa, for example, had been working on a blueprint to reopen schools in August as part of a long and delicate process. But with the virus now surging across Texas, the outbreak may make the decision for him.
“Initially I thought we would be ready, but I’m starting to have second thoughts,” Hinojosa told MSNBC’s Garret Haake last week. “Our parents have pivoted, more than 50 percent of them are now saying they don’t want to come, and we’re hearing loud and clear from our employees, especially our teachers, that they have a lot of concerns about how we can pull this off.”
His experience could be a preview of what’s to come for many school districts.
Public health experts, school officials, and teacher unions are warning that any proposal to physically reopen likely depends on containing the broader spread of the virus outside the classroom.
“I think it does become hard or impossible in areas with very high rates of infection,” Joshua Sharfstein, Vice Dean for Public Health Practice and Community Engagement at Johns Hopkins University and an advocate for reopening schools, said. “People will just be getting sick in the community and bringing it into the school. It will be very disruptive to the ability to stay open.”
With cases rising rapidly in much of the country, even states and districts with the most well-crafted and aggressive reopening plans could be whistling past the empty schoolyard if that’s the case.
San Diego, which was planning to open five days a week, announced on Monday it would only offer online learning thanks to the recent rise in coronavirus cases. Los Angeles will do the same.
Officials in Nashville and Atlanta have also announced the school year will start online due to their own coronavirus surges. Virginia Governor Ralph Northam has warned that school districts, some of which are already adopting hybrid plans, will not reopen if the state can’t keep infections down.
This presents obstacles to President Trump’s late scramble to open up schools, which he’s so far pursued by demanding that the Centers for Disease Control scale back its safety guidelines and by threatening schools that don’t open with some kind of financial punishment.
Even as Texas state officials move forward with a plan to require all schools to reopen full-time, for example, Governor Greg Abbott has cautioned that “if we continue to see COVID spreading the way that it is right now, it may be necessary to employ that flexibility and use online learning.” State guidance materials caution schools to design plans for “intermittent closure” if outbreaks occur.
The CDC offers some guidance to schools on how to isolate students or staff if they fall ill, but if parents pull their kids out of class in large numbers in favor of a remote learning option, that could effectively quash reopenings even if they continue on paper.
Both the worsening pandemic and Trump’s demands threaten to accelerate the trend by increasing anxiety about health conditions in schools. In Texas, a poll in June by the University of Texas/Texas Politics Project found 65 percent of respondents still considered schools “unsafe” for students.
“For me the goal is not just to open, it’s to stay open,” Dr. Thomas Frieden, a former CDC director, said on MSNBC. “If we open for a week or two and have to shut down the nation again, that would be a much worse travesty for our nation’s young children.”
Keeping teachers on board with reopening amid a raging series of outbreaks is also likely to be a struggle. American Federation of Teachers president Randi Weingarten has warned of a potential exodus of teachers retiring, quitting, or taking leave if they decide conditions are unsafe.
Some officials affiliated with the Trump administration have notably hedged their calls for reopening with disclaimers that pushing down cases is a critical step.
“The first thing we need to do is we need to get the virus under control,” White House testing czar Admiral Brett Giroir, who has advocated for reopening schools, said on ABC News on Sunday. “When we get the virus more under control, then we can really think about how we put children back in the classroom.”
While the White House has not presented a clear alternative to CDC guidelines or committed to funding new safety measures, plenty of outside health officials have argued that physically reopening schools should be the nation’s top priority given the immense strain even partial closures put on families.
Experts have proposed an array of potential measures to get there, from isolating groups of students to prevent large outbreaks, to installing partitions around desks, to pooling staff tests to detect infections early, to hiring aides to back up teachers.
The White House has frequently cited recommendations by the American Academy of Pediatrics, for example, to attempt 5-day-a-week reopenings in schools.
But the AAP, seemingly alarmed by Trump’s approach, issued a joint statement with national teachers unions and the School Superintendents Association on Friday warning that any approach to schools needed to follow public health guidance and get buy-in from local parents and teachers.
Critically, they warned that reopening plans should be scrapped if the outbreak becomes too severe.
“Schools in areas with high levels of COVID-19 community spread should not be compelled to reopen against the judgment of local experts,” they wrote.
https://daysofsunshine.blog/2020/07/14/what-is-gained-politically-by-school-closures/#like-5761
Reopening schools anywhere in the country, now, is insane.
Insane in the brain!
Amen!
With cases rising so drastically, I am not making and recommendations either way as far as schools re-opening. However, to even have this discussion, we need to define what we mean by “safe”, because there is absolutely no such thing as completely safe and I think we all know that.
There are about six million car crashes per year in the U.S., about 35,000 of them fatal, yet no one has suggested closing our streets and highways. People, including children, have died of infectious diseases long before COVID, yet with the exception of rare, brief and localized closures, we have not shut down schools to prevent all possibility of illness/death.
We also have to recognize that there are risks of not having school as well – increased isolation, depression and suicide; physical effects of inactivity such as obesity; the miserable effects of so-called “distance learning” that is turning so many kids off to learning in general; unreported child abuse that might have been caught by school officials, etc.
Again I will stress, I am NOT at this point saying that schools should open in August or September. But whenever they do re-open, as grim as it sounds, we have to have this kind of cost-benefit conversation. If we wait until COVID poses zero threat (heck, even the bubonic plague still poses some threat – https://news.sky.com/story/bubonic-plague-teenage-boy-dies-from-black-death-disease-12028222 ), then we might as well re-purpose our schools and re-train our teachers because we can never re-open. So at what point will we decide that the situation is “safe enough” to return to in-person education?
Hello Dienne,
I think what’s concerning to me is that nobody really knows the long term effects of catching this virus. People who have recovered are still having medical problems months later. Who knows if they will have permanent medical problems. We don’t know how it will affect children in the long term either. Will our medical system be able to handle millions of people with long term health issues? How? Will this virus reduce the life span of adults and children? No doctor knows. I’m sure that children are seeing their friends outside of school hopefully in small groups and socially distancing. There are many ways to be physically active while outside school. I’m actually very concerned about the amount of time children and teachers will have to sit stuck in front of screens all day if we have school online. Talk about obesity. I’m even thinking that the curriculum may have to be reduced some because of screen time and also various factors that could be taking place inside homes. I know that there are many issues. But this may be something we have to do for a while until doctors and scientists can get a better handle on what the potentialities of this virus might be. Thank you.
You sound like DeVos. “There are risks of everything?”
Car crashes. Seriously?
Heck, there’s too much government control – so make seat belts optional!
Car crashes. Seriously?
Someone has a car crash – tragically a few individuals are hurt badly or killed. BUT THEY DON”T SPREAD IT TO ANYONE ELSE.
oh nevermind…
And bathtubs and showers, WW, bathtubs and showers!
I’m not going to say whether I approve or disapprove of having kids go play in traffic, but 235,000 people are injured in their bathrooms in the United States every year, and 14 percent of these require hospitalization! We’re not going to say, don’t bathe, don’t shower!
I’m not making recommendations either way, play in traffic, don’t play in traffic.
Here in NYC we’re enjoying a virtual re-enactment of Jaws – a bumbling mayor telling everyone to go swimming in shark infested waters. All I can say is we’re gonna need a bigger school.
Nailed it.
de Blasio did make that mistake back in March, but in terms of returning to school in September has done no such thing.
If anything, it is the west coast that has the awful leadership and while NYC flattened their curve, the west coast (and south) opened too early.
LOL. RL. Exactly.
I have been reading several other sources that concern the reopening of schools. It is clear from the simpleton words that come of the mouths of Trump and DeVos that they do not care if is it safe to open the schools or not. They flat do not care about the children of this country. In the cast of Trump, he only cares that keeping the schools closed will have a negative impact on the economy, wall street, and his election. DeVos only cares about making sure that her goal to privatized public schools is fulfilled.
Kids will die. Adults will continue to die at an increasing rate. Trump and DeVos DO CARE. Period!! End of Story.
Of course it’s not safe. The richest 0.1% denigrated teachers for years. is it surprising that they want disease to kill them?
Today in Brazil, we use the word “GENOCIDE” a lot … I won’t say more than that!
Horrific. Health to you and your family!!!
Grateful for the affection
I believe that the world does not know the horrors we are experiencing. Only bad news and no expectations.
How sad.
Lilia Schwarcz, a Brazilian historian and Princeton University professor, told me, citing the belief among Bolsonaro’s inner circle that the earth is flat. Bolsonaro’s reluctance to push for isolation and his willingness to let the vulnerable die, Rolnik added, is emblematic of his larger, “absolutely pro-death philosophy and practice of necropolitics,” a reference to the Cameroonian philosopher Achille Mbembe, who argued that states affirm their sovereignty by imposing pain and death on populations considered the other.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-jair-bolsonaro-and-the-coronavirus-put-brazils-systemic-racism-on-display?utm_source=onsite-share&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=the-new-yorker
Grateful for the link. I don’t know how much the world knows about this government’s insanities.
It is so absurd – daily – that it seems like a nightmare.
Recently: the new Minister of Education (Milton Ribeiro) defended physical violence against children.
If the UN does not intervene, the indigenous people will die, as they are more susceptible to COVI-19. Bolsonaro – recently – has banned sending medical aid and drinking water to isolated communities. Otherwise, it sent thousands of doses of chloroquine.
I couldn’t find an article that I’d sent to a Trump supporter telling about how Bolsonaro vetoed a law that would have allowed indigenous people to be tested for COVID-19. [She claimed that Bolsonaro is a very good Christian.] He also set many fires in the Amazon forest.
He’s called the Trump of Brazil…flaunted his wearing no mask even after he got tested positive for COVID-19 and believes in taking hydroxychloroquine as a cure.
He’s a disastrous nut job.
Trump and Bolsonaro are similar. Equally awful.
Really. There are professionals who classify him as a psycopath.
A psychopath. Yes. Like Trump. Duterte. Putin. Kim.
NYS has set the contagion rate (% of positives tests below 5% for 14 consecutive days) by region as the metric for school reopening … the NYC rate is currently at 2% …. science must determine decisions, not politics ….
Well, reopening schools is a scientifically sure means to raise that contagion rate enormously.
You numbers you cite are those recommended by Johns Hopkins U and the WHO. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/testing-positivity
CX:The numbers you cite……
Israel had Covid under control, then on May 17 Netanyahu opened schools. Today Covid in Israel is out of control.
Educators need to stand united with a resounding “no”. It’s ridiculous. It’s deadly.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/israeli-data-show-school-openings-were-a-disaster-that-wiped-out-lockdown-gains?fbclid=IwAR1aJVDj24RrBWiJAlmTCOiTG_VXdLsnlAkGFgLTAreU8_nHEMAy5ohyhpE
Thank you, Ms. Simons. Exactly.
I think it woould be interesting to know what the Trumps are going to do with Baron
It seems like a good idea for Mr.and Mrs. Bill Gates and family, in the company of Mr. and Mrs. DeVos and family, to visit reopened classrooms in Houston.
Gates knows better. But I do think that Don the Con and Mike Dense and Ditzy DeVoid should spend a few weeks sitting in classrooms.
I like the idea of sending Trumpty Dumpty and Betsy the Beat to sit in classrooms, so let’s make sure a classroom without air conditioning or windows is built-in Death Valley and make them live in it for that week with only one gallon of water per person per day.
The title of this blog post might as well be,
“Jumping out of Fourth Story Windows–Is It Safe?”
or “Falling in the Bathtub–Is It Safe?”
or “Injecting Disinfectant–Is It Safe?”
or “Choosing Putin’s Puppet as President–Is It Safe?”
We now not only have Trump-Flu (since we have surpassed China’s numbers and complete lack of planning), we have the T-Effect. (I can barely type the man’s name once).
And, after months… Months… of hearing experts, reading research, dissecting every school blueprint, learning health standards, developing checklists to end all checklists… districts are approaching putting together re-opening plans (or not-yet reopening) and now this man who wouldn’t know a school if he tripped over it demands everyone go back full time. So what’s the reaction – it must not be safe if we wants it.
The T-Effect. When people instinctively do the opposite of what a “T” demands.
If a person demands that we do X, any sane, Preamble-Reading, educated person assumes it is bad for them.
President says “everyone go back to school.”
“Well, if he suggests it, then it really must not be safe.”
Drink bleach. Take hydroclorowhatever. Rally indoors, no masks allowed. Whatever.
Since children don’t die from the virus as easily as adults why not let in all students under 15 years old and have teachers of the same age. The only thing I would demand to make such a school outstanding would be Trump and his workersfrends as the principals of all schools. I’m all for such a safe and high quality school. How abought the rest of you readers?
I bet they can open schools in Cherry County, Nebraska. The Sandhills region is the definition of social distancing. I have not been by a high school anywhere out there that has the normal population of students. One place in that county boasted a population of 7.
I know, ridiculous example. Still, the localization of the virus makes local judgement vital. Places like the one where I teach are far from the virus right now, but so geographically close that we could have spread it everywhere in two weeks of unknown, asymptomatic infections. This is not an easy call, especially in light of the debacle called distance learning.
All it takes is a couple of kids who visited grandma.
All those dead and injured students and teachers will be quite the capstone for the Trump presidency. A name that will live in infamy.
Avid readers with open minds think safety first and care about others. They wear masks and are careful to keep six feet apart or more.
Closed minds do not enjoy reading. Instead, they spend most of their time thinking about money, and “me first”. They feed on fear and hate. Then they twist the word of god to get what they want. To them, greed is great, greed IS god, and everyone that does not agree with them should die after a lot of suffering. They also do not wear masks and ignore the six feet apart rule.
Quite true Lloyd.
I’ve noticed that those barking the loudest for reopening schools without the proper health safeguards are the ones yelling to reopen the “economy”, that is, the sector in which they gamble their monies to make money off of money-Wall Street and the Stock Casinos, oops I mean Markets, rentiers being the older term, I call them gamblers who can only think in terms of I,ME,MINE.
Sounds like the Fox News clan!!!…except they don’t understand that greed as their G-d is exactly the opposite of what the Bible teaches/preaches. They feel they are “worthy” of their belongings/things/money because they worked hard and everyone else has the same advantage, except “they” are lazy.
Ditzy DeVoid:
“Virtual education is the future!”
“We expect all schools to be fully open five days a week for in-person classes, or there will be consequences!”
“What we don’t need is more federal mandates. We need local control!”
“We expect all schools to be fully open five days a week for in-person classes, or there will be consequences!”
Seems she missed her calling as a professor of logic. Jon Awbry, what do you think? Bring her into your department after her term as Sec Ed ends?
Oops! Awbrey. Sorry, Jon!
The Trump administration is a death cult
July 14, 2020
By Thom Hartmann.
They revel in their efforts to end Obamacare and cut millions of Americans off healthcare.
They celebrate last night’s resumption of federal executions.
They enthusiastically authorize the use of formerly banned pesticides that cause cancer and neurological damage to children.
Trump’s first official action was to allow coal and oil companies to dump more waste in our rivers, poisoning people downstream.
As children were being slaughtered in classrooms across America, trump doubled down on supporting the NRA.
As Black people across America continue to be regularly murdered by police, Trump calls those asking for change “terrorists” and “thugs.” He refers to Nazis as “very fine people” and retweets calls for “white power.”
Over international objections and in violation of US law, they’re selling weapons to Saudi Arabia to continue bombing civilians in Yemen.
Numerous children have died in their detention facilities, yet they continue to give millions of dollars to Trump’s contributor corporations to continue holding these children in deplorable, disgusting conditions.
They’re fighting all efforts to extend more unemployment relief to American families, further stressing out people in ways that inevitably, history tells us, lead to domestic violence and suicide.
The simple fact is that Donald Trump and the people he has surrounded himself with, like chief racist Steven Miller, appear to love causing other people pain.
Trump even encouraged police to rough up people who have not yet been convicted of a crime, and told his followers that if they injured protesters he would pay their legal expenses.
But the coronavirus is their crowning achievement.
Simply by discouraging people from wearing masks or social distancing and raising doubts about science, Trump and his buddies have caused the deaths of over a hundred thousand Americans, with more dead bodies to come if they continue on this path.
Trump goes to states with massive Covid outbreaks and holds indoor rallies, knowing that it will lead to the death of many of the people attending. What is he thinking as he is looking out on his little crowds, knowing that some of those people will be dead in a matter of weeks because of his desperate need for adulation?
Trump refuses to use the Defense Production Act to build up our stockpiles of testing equipment and PPE, making the situation for people in states where the virus is exploding right now a death-dealing crisis.
Betsy DeVos, who has spent her lifetime trying to destroy public schooling, is joining with Trump in trying to punish public school teachers and families who send their kids to public school by bringing disease and death into their homes.
And none of this had to happen.
All over the world, country after country have responded to the coronavirus in ways that have defeated it.
New Zealand hasn’t had a new case in weeks, and normalcy has largely returned to that nation.
Taiwan, similarly, has mostly beat the virus and recently had a baseball game with over 10,000 people in attendance.
All over Europe, countries have kept their unemployment rates well below 10% by aggressive government actions, and have beaten the virus through extensive testing and contact tracing, and mandating masks and social distancing.
Over at the New York Times, Economist Paul Krugman asks a simple question:
“At its most severe, the lockdown seems to have reduced G.D.P. by a little over 10 percent.
During World War II, America spent more than 30 percent of G.D.P. on defense, for more than three years. Why couldn’t we absorb a much smaller cost for a few months?”
The answer, of course, is that Donald Trump has no interest in saving American lives. He and his Republican buddies just want average Americans back at work to make their billionaire friends and donors even richer, no matter how many workers die in the process.
Trump appears to delight in knowing that because he and his Party have opposed expanding America’s social safety net for decades, there’s an almost endless supply of poor and low-income people desperate enough for a paycheck that they’ll take their lives in their hands to feed their families.
The Trump administration is a death cult. The Republican Party is a death cult.
And Americans and their children are, overwhelmingly, not enthusiastic about dying.
Will November bring the kind of change necessary to put an end to unnecessary death as a routine part of the American way of life?
-Thom
Perfectly said
“Will November bring the kind of change. . . unnecessary death as a routine part of the American way of life”.
No it will not. The Dimocraps have been as much a part of that death and destruction machine as the Rethuglicans. They both do the bidding of their Oligarchic death merchant masters.
You are absolutely correct (!), but I will vote for Dimocrap Biden so that at least we have a fighting chance to make some kind of difference. If we stick with Trump, it is a death march for everyone. I think “the sins of the fathers” are being exposed and the Oligarchic merchant masters are being revealed for the greedy, slimy scum that they are. We have hit rock bottom as a nation and it is now the time for a rebuilding of a society that serves “we the people”.
“The Dimocraps have been as much a part of that death and destruction machine as the Rethuglicans. They both do the bidding of their Oligarchic death merchant masters.”
I am truly sorry to hear a post like this from you, Duane. While I do agree that in the past, the Democrats have sold out too many issues, there are many issues in which the Democrats have not sold out. Of course, if you are a white male with a decent health insurance plan that is not based on what the Republican “free market” will bear, it’s easy to believe that the last 4 years of Trump and the future country where a right wing Supreme Court prevents any progressive legislation from happening is not a big deal.
There can be no progressive future without democracy. There can be no progressive future with an empowered Republican party that is determined to make it as hard as possible for non-white, non Republicans to vote, a Republican party that values only power and democracy is expendable when democracy limits their power. The Democratic party – for all its’ flaws – believes in democracy.
And if you don’t believe me, then ask AOC. Ask Jamaal Bowman who just defeated one of the longest running democrats in the primary BECAUSE the Democrats are very different than the Republicans and progressives can win a Democratic primary.
Your post disappoints me because it doesn’t seem to offer up any understanding of what it is like for people who aren’t white or practice a religion other than Christianity when our country is taken over by right wing Republicans who believe only in power and appealing to what is worst in this country.
Angela Davis, Cornell West, AOC, Bernie Sanders all voting for Biden.
Because the Democrats don’t have to be progressive – they just have to believe in democracy. And they do — that’s why Jamaal Bowman is the Democratic candidate for Congress.
Do you really believe that it makes no difference to the progressive movement if a party that doesn’t believe in democracy is empowered versus one that does believe in democracy? The reason Bernie Sanders, AOC, and many others are voting for Biden and the Democrats is so that the progressive movement can thrive instead of being quashed the way it is in other places where democracy has faltered.
I hope you voted for every progressive you could this year in the primary and that like AOC and Jamaal Bowman, that some of them won. And I hope that in the general election you will vote for the party that believes in democracy to defeat the party that does not, just like AOC and Bernie are doing.
“Of course, if you are a white male with a decent health insurance plan that is not based on what the Republican “free market” will bear, it’s easy to believe that the last 4 years of Trump and the future country where a right wing Supreme Court prevents any progressive legislation from happening is not a big deal.”
If the ‘you’ in your statement refers to me, no, I am not that guy.
And: “Your post disappoints me because it doesn’t seem to offer up any understanding of what it is like for people who aren’t white or practice a religion other than Christianity. . . ”
Wrong again! Yes, I do have that kind of understanding.
“Do you really believe that it makes no difference to the progressive movement if a party that doesn’t believe in democracy is empowered versus one that does believe in democracy?”
No, I don’t. Your assumption that all Rethuglicans are anti-democratic is wrong, again. The Dims don’t own, to the exclusion of others, the democratic process. Hell, if one looks at the DNC one can see much disdain for a democratic process.
As far as voting? I’ll decide when I get in to do my voting. I’ll let you know then who I voted for.
As far as voting? I’ll decide when I get in to do my voting. I’ll let you know then who I voted for.
Duane, if you cannot vote for Trump or Biden, write in Snoopy from the Peanuts cartoon series or some other cartoon character.
Duane,
I think you want four more years of that lying con man Trump.
And you think wrongly. Totally mistaken. Utter nonsense of a thought.
both parties are home to many upper-middle-class to seriously wealthy legislators who always (always) put money before citizens
“Hell, if one looks at the DNC one can see much disdain for a democratic process.” What is your evidence for this sweeping claim that ignores everything the Democrats try to do to help people vote?
Is the evil DNC trying to strike Republicans off the voter rolls. Is the evil DNC trying to make it harder for victimized white men to vote? Are they shutting down polling places? Are they fighting against voting by mail? Are they unconcerned about a pandemic because the victims are more likely to be people of color than white folks? Did they prevent AOC and Jamaal Bowman from winning primaries?
I thought you liked real discussion, but you seem to have abandoned that in favor of making sweeping attacks without any evidence. Even if some officials at the DNC preferred another candidate to Bernie, how does that negate everything else the Democrats have done regarding protecting voting rights? Sometimes it seems as if the only way the DNC could prove to some people that the election was “fair” to Bernie was to not allow African American voters in southern primaries to have a vote! Because that apparently is much more important than support for voting rights and civil rights and other issues that are important to democracy where the Democrats are very different than the Republicans.
You never seem willing to acknowledge the things that distinguishes the party of AOC and Jamaal Bowman and many other people trying to make this country more progressive and the Republicans. Instead you actually posted this:
“Your assumption that all Rethuglicans are anti-democratic is wrong, again. The Dims don’t own, to the exclusion of others, the democratic process. Hell, if one looks at the DNC one can see much disdain for a democratic process.”
The CURRENT Republican Party is trying to exclude voters. That is what they vote for and are fighting for. If you can’t see a difference between the party of AOC and Jamaal Bowman and the Republican Party that has basically said Trump could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue because he is president, then you should absolutely do what you can to make sure the Democrats lose because clearly Trump winning doesn’t bother you very much at all — certainly no more than having the evil Democrats in power.
I am critical of the Democrats, but I can’t ignore the evidence before my own eyes that it clearly matters that Kavanaugh and Gorsuch are on the Supreme Court and if another 2 or 3 far right Justices replace Ginsberg and other liberals, then it is very dangerous. I can’t ignore the evidence that on issues like civil rights, voting rights, race, women’s rights, gun rights, minimum wage, health care, and many others the vast difference between the Dems and Republicans is a fact. Not an opinion. We can debate how some of the Democrat policies are flawed and not very good, but there is not much debate about how the Republicans policies and actions are dangerous to democracy.
So I challenge you to answer one question: Do you think the likelihood of progressive legislation will happen with the party of AOC and Jamaal Bowman and Nancy Pelosi and Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden and Sherrod Brown empowered? Or with Trump and Mitch McConnell and right wing Republican party empowered and choosing another few Supreme Court justices, controlling 99% of the federal judiciary?
If you really believe that what is at stake in this election doesn’t matter because to you, the differences that exist between the Dems and Republicans are just not about issues that matter much to you, that speaks for itself. But those issues include voting rights, civil rights, abortion rights, gun laws, and many other issues.
Those differences are the bedrock of a democratic system. I would have respect for you if you acknowledge that those difference are just not very important to you. But I am very disappointed if your argument is to simply to gloss over those differences as if they do not exist — as if the Democrats are just as dangerous to democracy as the current Republican party.
If you are trying to make the argument that the current Republican Party is no more dangerous to democracy than the evil, corrupt and awful democratic party, then I wish you’d offer some evidence to support it. It’s certainly difficult to watch Trump spewing lie after lie, threatening to lock up or shut down any person or organization that criticizes him, and see so-called progressives still insisting that Bernie Sanders and AOC are not to be trusted and ignoring the death threats that AOC and other progressive Democrats are receiving from the white Trump supporters who are the ones being “lifted up” by Trump.
“Do you think the likelihood of progressive legislation will happen with the party of AOC and Jamaal Bowman and Nancy Pelosi and Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden and Sherrod Brown empowered? Or with Trump and Mitch McConnell and right wing Republican party empowered and choosing another few Supreme Court justices, controlling 99% of the federal judiciary?”
Really? One doesn’t have to support either party of the oligarchic duopoly to know the answer. But hypothetical questions don’t interest me. Tell me when the Dims get that done. Didn’t they have the opportunity from 2008-2010? What happened then? Why didn’t they pass all of the supposed liberal legislation then? Why didn’t they end the endless wars? Why didn’t they accomplish all of the progressive desires then?
Sorry NYCpsp, but the Dims are only slightly better than the repugnant Rethugs. Both parties need to die off as soon as yesterday.
Duane,
Your cynicism is welcomed by Trump. You are an enabler as much as Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell.
The GOP is trying to suppress voter turnout. So are you.
Shame on you!
Duane is simply repeating the same right wing talking points that could have been said by any white Trump supporter. It was the same thing that led to progressives believing that Jimmy Carter was no better than Ronald Reagan. After all, as Duane could easily argue, the corrupt and evil democrat Jimmy Carter had a HUGE Democratic majority in Congress for an entire 4 years!!! And yet Carter, with 4 years of a democratic majority instead of the 2 that Obama had, didn’t even accomplish ANY progressive legislation, not even Obamacare!! Duane’s argument against the Democrats would certainly be even more apt when used to celebrate the defeat of Jimmy
Carter in the hopes that empowering Reagan might lead to the defeat of that evil Jimmy Carter-led Democratic party of corruption that had 4 years of a Democratic Congress and did even less than Obama did in 2 years.
I find it very revealing that Duane’s entire argument depends on first ignoring the smaller accomplishments of the Democrats and focusing on what they failed to do, and secondly ignoring all the horrible things that the Republicans actually did!
As long as you focus only on the progressive things that the Democrats did not get done — if you only focus on what Jimmy Carter failed to do — and you ignore the very anti-progressive bad things that the Republicans did get done – if you ignore what Reagan actually did — you can argue that whether it’s Carter or Reagan, whether it’s Obama or McCain, whether it’s Trump or Clinton or Biden, it really doesn’t matter because there is no difference.
I am tired of trying to convince Duane that there is a difference between a political party that includes AOC and her squad and Elizabeth Warren and Jamaal Bowman, and the Republican Party that includes ??? (Duane didn’t offer any evidence of all these supposedly good Republicans in Congress but apparently he believes they exist.)
What is sad that Duane is expressing exactly the same propaganda that Republicans used to defeat Carter. I know – I fell for it hook, line and sinker. The only difference is that after 4 years of Ronald Reagan I understood there was a difference.
Most people – even if they didn’t like the Democrats in 2016 – have recognized what is at stake in this election.
Anyone can make a Duane-like argument to justify destroying teachers unions because of what teachers unions have NOT accomplished.
Randi Weingarten hasn’t done enough to make public schools progressive. Ergo, I am now pulling a Duane and going to fight unions and bash them as evil and corrupt because what I am going to focus on is the union’s FAILINGS. They have FAILED to make public schools perfect and they had all kinds of chances to do so. Ergo, by the kind of reasoning Duane used to bash Democrats, my focus will be on attacking and trying to defeat any politician who supports those corrupt unions, even if that empowers politicians who want to destroy the teachers’ union. Duane’s argument has convinced me that focusing only on all the things that union has failed to do and defeating the union is the only way to make the union more progressive. It must be destroyed, even if that empowers the right wing union haters. Just like the Democrats must be destroyed even if that empowers the right wing progressive haters. It doesn’t matter anyway since there is no difference in the anti-progressive union and those who want to destroy the entire progressive union movement. At least, that seems to be the rationale that some people use to excuse why they don’t believe it really matters whether Trump is empowered for another 4 years or not.
It is an error to make the best the enemy of the good, or to use some abstract standard of purity to argue against making any steps forward.
I couldn’t help it. I Googled “What did Jimmy Carter accomplish as president” and.
“During Carter’s term as president, two new cabinet-level departments, the Department of Energy and the Department of Education, were established. He established a national energy policy that included conservation, price control, and new technology.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter
The Camp David Accords would become Carter’s greatest foreign policy achievement”
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/carter-ending-war-camp-david-accords/
“10 Major Accomplishments of Jimmy Carter”
https://learnodo-newtonic.com/jimmy-carter-accomplishments
Duane, you just broke two rules.
Good on purpose because you all refuse to acknowledge that there are other views than the NYC view. And that is the main problem with what you all are pushing. You all are a lot less knowledgeable than you believe yourselves to be. I have lost most of the respect I have for you. It’s sad that you all can’t accept some different ways of thinking/being than your very insulate NYC views. Sad, definitely effin sad!
Duane,
You seem to think that only people who live in NYC will vote for Biden. The polls say you are wrong.
Diane,
What shocks me is people who think that taking only a very tiny step forward is no better than taking 20 steps backward! And they seem to believe that it will be no more difficult to get to a place that is 20 steps forward from where they started if they first take 20 steps backward instead of first taking a small step forward.
They don’t seem bothered if they go a long way in the wrong direction because to them, that is no different than going a little way in the right direction. And they don’t seem to even notice that as they go further and further in the wrong direction, they are driving right over a cliff where the possibility of ever returning to where they started, let alone to the place they want to be, is gone.
You effin elite NYC sob’s could learn a lot from us rubes in the middle of this country! Sad effin sad, your all’s condemnations. You all are so effin elite, why don’t just admit it?
Duane,
Great, now you are reduced to using the same slurs that Trump followers use when they can’t defend their positions any other way. “You elites”. You sound like Donald Trump Jr.! Do you think such slurs bothers me? LOL! I grew up in a working class midwest neighborhood where Trump was quite popular and I knew people like you who would throw insults if they felt that their superiority and privilege was being challenged by anyone who disagreed with them. I used to be intimidated as a kid but by the time I was in high school I just felt sorry for them. I believed it was their insecurity that led them to throw insults rather than just defend their beliefs.
I have lots of family and friends who remained there and are brilliant and concerned and can defend their positions without being reduced to calling the people they disagree with “elites”. And I know others who still prefer to throw insults like “elite” than to make a reasonable argument to defend their extreme hatred of the Democrats (especially AOC and other non-white “libs”) and their normalization of every new outrage that Trump and the Republicans bring down upon this country to destroy us.
You don’t intimidate me, Duane, because you aren’t really much different than people I grew up with.
And here is another thing that you should know, Duane, if you ever abandon your narrow-minded view of the east coast:
It turns out that the families in my neighborhood in Brooklyn have a lot more in common with the people I grew up with in my working class midwestern high school than they do with the “elites” like you who vote for 3rd party candidates! They want good public schools, support teachers’ unions, and higher taxes on the rich and actually think that racism and xenophobia are just as important as whether a Democrat supports free college for all, or just free college for families earning less than $150,000/year. They actually think that a Democrat who supports Medicare for those who want it instead of Medicare for All is not evil or doing his corporate master’s bidding. They actually think that preserving union health care plans might be better than Medicare for All. They actually think that someone who has a different opinion on whether Medicare for All is better than Medicare for All who want it is not a sell-out, but just has a different opinion!
In fact, many friends and family who remained in the midwestern area I grew up in don’t have exactly the same opinions of what they believe is the most important issue for democrats to take on! Just like the people in Brooklyn don’t have exactly the same opinions. But what they have in common is a belief in the truth and electing the party that is moving in the right direction instead of in the wrong one.
I’ve never heard anyone but the worst bullies I grew up with use terms like “elites” to attack people who have a difference of opinion. I thought you were better than that. I suggest you look at your own biases because the people I know in Brooklyn are no more “elite” than the people I grew up with in a working class midwestern town. In fact, the people I know in Brooklyn and in the midwest are a lot more like one another than they are like you and your third party voting friends who throw insults at people because of where they live.
Lloyd,
Jimmy Carter accomplished a lot as president, just like Obama did. If you google “what did Obama accomplish?”, there is a similar list of things we all forgot about.
But I opposed Carter because of what he DIDN’T accomplish! That’s all I could think about. Ergo, I felt that since there was so much Carter didn’t accomplish, that made him evil and corrupt and no better than Reagan. So why shouldn’t I demonstrate my dissatisfaction since Ronald Reagan was absolutely, positively no worse than the evil Carter?
And I was certain that the way to a progressive future was defeating Carter. It never occurred to me that empowering Reagan would make that progressive future I wanted much, much, much harder to achieve. But at least after 4 years of Reagan I didn’t double down and insist that another 4 years of Reagan couldn’t be any worse than another evil Democrat like Jimmy Carter winning.
l made the mistake of thinking that the only thing that mattered was what the Democrat didn’t do and that all the horrible things the Republican would (and did) do were not a big deal. Turns out that they set the progressive movement back a long, long way, and caused a lot of damage to this country.
I wonder what the lists would look like if we made a list of all the wrong and/or bad things Carter did vs Reagan, both Bushes, and Trump.
In fact, compare Carter, Bill Clinton, and Obama vs Reagan, both Bushes, and Trump not his list.
Not what they did not do but what they did do wrong or bad.
powerful piece and all horribly true
In Texas, over 20% of the population are school children and staff. The numbers in Texas, particularly in Harris County where I live, the positive rate is over 26%. If we were forced to return to schools, then that 26% number would probably jump to 40% very quickly. Keeping the 20% at home is helping flatten the curve to the extent it can be. 3-4 weeks ago when governor abbott declared that schools would open 100% in person, I declared him a fool. We had just reached the 7th day in a row of record high cases. It has continued to increase each day.
Tap the brakes. School will resume when it is the right time for each community. This is not something that can be dictated from the throne, whitehouse, or governor’s mansion.
Several recent studies have shown severe long-term neurological problems in people who have otherwise recovered from the virus, many of them never overtly symptomatic.
REOPENING SCHOOLS NOW IS INSANE. I am astonished and heartbroken that we are even having this conversation.
Before we can even think about reopening schools, we need to develop the capacity to create N95 masks and readily available testing for everyone. And we need sufficient contact tracers and software for this.
And, until we can reopen schools, we need plans for childcare for parents who have to work outside the home.
In short, we need a massive, coordinated, national plan.
But we have an imbecile in the White House surrounded by toadies like Mike Dense.
MIKE DENSE: “I tell Mother every day how proud I am to serve under you, Mr. President, you who are so tough. The toughest president in the history of this country, nay, of the world, nay, of the universe. I know that I am joined by all true Americans in saying that we are all so fortunate, Mr. President, in this crisis, to have our futures in your capable and very large hands.
“In a crisis, the tough get going. That’s what America is all about. With faith in God, and your leadership, what can we fail to accomplish? I say “what can we FAIL to accomplish” because this is not a federal responsibility. It’s up to the states, and our Republican governors are doing a heck of a job. Soon we’ll be fully reopened and humming along. Best economy ever. From the very beginning, you stepped up, Mr. President, and said, “It’s just going to go away” and “it’s not my responsibility.” That’s the kind of real leadership we’ve come to expect from you.
“And that’s why, Mr. President, if ever your shoes are slightly soiled, I will be there to lick them, no matter what Mother says about that. It has been the honor of a lifetime to serve under you. Emphasis on the ‘under.’
“Did I do OK, Mr. President? Did I? Huh? Oh. Oh. O yes! Thank you. Thank you, Mr. President.”
I understand that for the VP position, Pence had his tongue replaced with a rough, sandpaper-like cat’s tongue, and he had magnifying lenses surgically planted in his eyes so everything he saw looked bigger.
That way Pence is always ready to lick Trump’s boots (and rectum) with the proper equipment and never tells a lie when he says he sees big hands.
When caught in a lie (and almost everything he says is a lie), Trump almost always repeats it more forcefully. This peculiar characteristic of his is often attributed to something he learned from his mentor Roy Cohn or from Hilter’s “big lie.” But I’m beginning to think of this as simply another expression of his extreme cognitive deficits. Consider this: In the beginning, Trump was both denying that Covid-19 was a real issue and saw an opportunity, in it, to deny entry to the U.S. to more nonwhite foreigners. So, he issued the travel ban from China. Then, for MONTHS thereafter, he kept congratulating himself for containing the pandemic and saving millions of lives by restricting travel from China, even as cases surged here and the epidemiologists had traced the surge here to travelers from Europe. And when he would make these statements, they were reflexive–the opposite of reflective. Imagine thoughts as cells being carried in blood plasma. In a normal person, these move freely, in response to the environment, to whatever is actually happening. But it Trump, a thought is like this rare phenomenon–something that occurs to him and that he thinks of as incredibly brilliant because it’s about him and how great he is–and it’s like a blood clot. It gets stuck and impedes the flow of thought, and all he can do is say it over and over. Or, to use another analogy, it’s like one of those long-play vinyl records from the old days that gets stuck. BTW, Dan Rather tells a funny story in his autobiography The Camera Never Blinks about being fired from his first job in radio, in Texas, when, on a Sunday, he put on a vinyl record of a sermon and went out for lunch. He came back to find that the record was stuck and had been broadcasting “Go to hell,” “Go to hell,” “Go to hell” over and over. Listening to Trump is very like that, and this might be sheer imbecility rather than strategy.
I prefer to think of Trump’s thoughts like weighted-down dead corpses sitting on the bottom of a deep lake where they were dumped after being killed, but the weights are not enough to keep them down when their body bloats with gasses and they float to the surface where they pop like a balloon and spew a toxic brew in all directions infecting everyone near him.
Yes, I see the similarities, Lloyd!
Bob Shepherd: “From the very beginning, you stepped up, Mr. President, and said, “It’s just going to go away” and “it’s not my responsibility.” That’s the kind of real leadership we’ve come to expect from you.”
How beautifully stated. You’ve nailed the character of Dense.
Trump never claims responsibility for anything that goes wrong. He has even blamed Obama for the COVID-19 deaths and never mentions his administration abolished the emergency pandemic response team that Obama established.
Trump always claims responsibility for improvements in unemployment and the economy that he has never had anything to do with (most if not all of the improvements in unemployment and the economy happened during the Obama presidency), and Trump even lies and exaggerates about how big those improvements were to make him sound better.
Trump never says he is sorry.
Trump never says he is wrong.
He’s like a parrot, but he parrots only himself or some idiotic thing from an adviser that struck him. He has learned, he thinks, a couple of things, and all he can do is repeat them over and over, like a traveler who knows four words in a foreign language.
What time is it?
Buona sera.
Can I help you?
Buona sera?
There is food on your chin.
Buona sera
How many Trump supporters read? These are people who KNOW this moron and aren’t afraid to speak out.
List of books that tell about the atrocity of Trump..
The US president’s niece, Mary Trump, who also has a PhD in psychology, is the author of the latest Trump tell-all. Published yesterday, Too Much and Never Enough focuses on the family that Mary Trump says turned her uncle into a narcissist who is “lost in his own delusional spin.”
The Trump tell-all has become its own genre, with a growing list of books that examine the president from various angles. Perhaps your book club needs a little light reading to get it in the mood for what’s sure to be another tumultuous US election?
The Room Where It Happened, by former national security advisor John Bolton, 2020
The Threat, by former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe, 2019
Fear: Trump in the White House, by Watergate reporter Bob Woodward, 2018
A Higher Loyalty, by former FBI director James Comey, 2018
Fire and Fury, by journalist Michael Wolff, who interviewed many Trump staffers, 2018
Unhinged, by former staffer Omarosa Manigault Newman, 2018
Warnings of a possible cover-up as Trump orders hospitals to stop sending coronavirus data to CDC
July 15, 2020
Public health experts are warning that coronavirus statistics will soon be newly vulnerable to political manipulation after the Trump administration ordered hospitals to send Covid-19 patient data directly to a Department of Health and Human Services system rather than the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which usually receives the information and releases it to the public.
The New York Times reported Tuesday that the HHS database now positioned to collect daily Covid-19 information from hospitals “is not open to the public, which could affect the work of scores of researchers, modelers, and health officials who rely on CDC data to make projections and crucial decisions.”
“Health and Human Services said that going forward, hospitals should report detailed information on a daily basis directly to the new centralized system, which is managed by TeleTracking, a health data firm with headquarters in Pittsburgh,” the Times noted.
The administration’s new directive came in the form of a document (pdf) quietly posted online last week by HHS, an agency headed by former pharmaceutical executive and Trump appointee Alex Azar.
“As of July 15, 2020, hospitals should no longer report the Covid-19 information in this document to the National Healthcare Safety Network site,” the directive states, referring to the CDC’s data-gathering system…
https://www.alternet.org/2020/07/warnings-of-a-possible-cover-up-as-trump-orders-hospitals-to-stop-sending-coronavirus-data-to-cdc/#.Xw7qYWBPz1M.gmail
Nonprofits and the legitimate media (not Fox, Sinclair Media, and OAN right-wing news channel) will start to collect this data from hospitals and report it. Trump will call it fake news.
This is inevitable. But getting the info from hospitals all around the country is a big, big job.
This move is a disaster. I very much hope that the push back will be sufficient to make the liars in the Trump maladministration back down on this, as they just did on refusing to allow foreign students taking virtual classes to remain here.
This is so important, Carol! If you ignore it, it doesn’t exist.
Or, as Trump himself said, if you don’t test, you have fewer cases.
Interesting. I NEVER shop at Walmart. Can’t stand how abusive they are to their workers.
Walmart will start requiring all customers to wear masks
Walmart, the world’s largest retailer, is the latest national chain to require all customers to wear masks.
I live in Las Cruces, NM. We have three Wal Mart Super Stores. The NM Governor has mandated that masks will be worn in ALL stores by customers and employees. The Way Mart on the east mesa was not following the mask rules or apparently any other rule associated with the COVID-19 virus. It was found that at least four employees who were tested positive were still working in the store. Other violations were found. So, the authorities walked in closed the store.
The store was closed on a Saturday, 11 July, and reopened on Sunday, 12 July The store management was ordered to completely sanitize the everything in the store. It is hard to believe that a facility of that size could be completely cleaned and sanitized in 24 hours.
If the same thing had happened to a Mom and Pop store then the closing of that store would have been for a long time. Makes one think that big box stores like the one owned by the Waltons (Wal Mart) have financial power to quickly change official minds about the closing of a store.
The idiocy of loyal supporters never ends. Indiana is reporting that it now takes longer to get test results back due to a rising demand in the country. The number of positive tests indicate Indiana’s number of infected is rising.
People who have to wait 5-7 days to get results will be infecting others.
What far R media is saying some place had 100% testing?
Comment by Trump supporter to this local article:
“Hey!!!! There is much more testing so obviously they will find more cases. One place tested 100% with covid. Statistically impossible. Death rate is going down!”
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Wednesday, July 15, 2020 1:00 am
Hoosiers see lag in getting test results
Comes as cases on rise in state
NIKI KELLY | The Journal Gazette
INDIANAPOLIS – Hoosiers are waiting longer for COVID-19 test results and have fewer options for testing as a spike in new cases hits Indiana.
Backups at laboratories processing the tests have increased in recent weeks. For instance, OptumServe – which runs the state’s free sites – has a disclaimer saying results could take four to six days. Previously it was between 48 hours and 72 hours.
And anecdotal reports show some people waiting more than a week from other test providers.
“With the demand for testing rising throughout the country, that is creating a lag on the system nationwide,” a statement from the Indiana State Department of Health said. “Some third-party labs are reporting longer turnaround times (4-6 or 5-7 days) due to the increase in demand in hotspots across the nation causing a backlog at the lab.”…
And even though testing is down, Indiana’s rate of positive tests is rising – an indication the virus is spreading in the population.
OPEN SCHOOLS NOW! Indiana is seeing the number of infected rise. It’s the perfect time to open schools.
‘News” from the WH:
Schools Can’t Reopen Unless Charter Schools Shut Down, Police Are Defunded, Los Angeles Teachers Union Says
Jul 13th, 2020 DailyWire.com
A major teachers union in Los Angeles says the district can’t re-open schools until there is a “moratorium” on charter schools. Oh, and until police are defunded. Oh, and until there is “Medicare for all.” Oh, and until there’s a wealth tax and a federal bailout, too.
Those are all terms set by the United Teachers Los Angeles (UTLA), a 35,000-member union in the Los Angeles Unified School District, according to a policy paper released this week and first reported by Just The News.
“It is time to take a stand against Trump’s dangerous, anti-science agenda that puts the lives of our members, our students, and our families at risk,” said UTLA President Cecily Myart-Cruz. “We all want to physically open schools and be back with our students, but lives hang in the balance. Safety has to be the priority. We need to get this right for our communities.”
“Even before the spike in infections and Trump’s reckless talk, there were serious issues with starting the year on school campuses. The state and federal governments have not provided the additional resources or funds needed for increased health and safety measures and there is not enough time for the district to put together the detailed, rigorous plans for a safe return to campus,” she said…
https://www.dailywire.com/news/schools-cant-reopen-unless-charter-schools-shut-down-police-are-defunded-los-angeles-teachers-union-says/
In case any of you were wondering what Roger Stone was thinking..here is the lowdown from Breaking Christian News. [There are never any links.]
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Roger Stone Gave His Heart to Christ at Franklin Graham Crusade in January: “God Has a Mission for Me”
David Brody (Jul 15, 2020)
“At that moment, I felt the calling. I stood up with 500 other people. I wasn’t the slightest bit embarrassed. I confess that I was a sinner. I repeated a pledge that he recited, and it was as if a cement block was lifted off my chest. I can’t even explain it.” – Roger Stone
(Washington, DC) — [CBN News] Now that Roger Stone is no longer going to jail, the former political consultant has quite a few people to thank. Donald Trump is right at the top of the list, but spiritually speaking he has someone even greater than the president to thank, namely Jesus Christ….
“I don’t regret anything that I did in 2016 because I didn’t break the law,” Stone tells CBN News. “They wanted me to lie, to bear false witness against the president in return for some kind of leniency.”…
Still, Stone couldn’t resist putting what he’s been through in spiritual terms. “I really do believe that those who are trying to undo this president, those who are trying to destroy me, trying to destroy Michael Flynn, who’s a very good man and great American patriot war hero, I do believe they’re satanic,” he said….
As for regrets, he has them. “I do regret the fact that it took this long for me to return to the Church because I realized that I could have had the solitude and the solace and the strength and the fortitude to fight this much earlier. I went through a year of Hell before I found the way.” Will he now find the way to do the hard task the Bible requires of praying for his enemies? “The Lord will deal with them so it’s not like they will go unpunished. That makes it easier to pray for them for when that moment comes.”
As for Stone’s immediate future, he wants to help re-elect President Trump, this time from his perch on the outside. As for his purpose going forward, he’s waiting on God. “I think God put me in this position at this time for a purpose,” Stone tells CBN News. “So, if God has a mission for me, He hasn’t revealed it to me yet, but if He does, I’m ready for duty.”
Schools are opening in Lake County. Two nurses quit. How many teachers are going to quit?
One more ‘great bit of news’ from NW Indiana [Lake County]:
NWI Times] Lake County Health Department understaffed, overwhelmed amid COVID-19 pandemic
Jul 14, 2020
CROWN POINT — Keeping up with the coronavirus is exhausting the Lake County Health Department.
The Lake County Council learned Tuesday two of the department’s five nurses recently resigned, and two more are off work, leaving just a single nurse on-duty to field more than 200 calls and emails a day relating to COVID-19.
Dr. Chandana Vavilala, Lake County’s health officer, told the council her department is doing all it can to organize COVID-19 testing, perform supplementary contact tracing of infected individuals and help prepare schools to reopen amid the pandemic, alongside its usual tasks, including providing immunizations and conducting tuberculosis surveillance.
“We are doing our best,” Vavilala said. “I’m having a lot of difficulty hiring people. We are definitely, very much short-staffed in the Lake County Health Department, especially in our nursing division.”
Vavilala anticipates the burden on the county health department will grow significantly as local schools reopen, since she expects the state will be unable to effectively trace the contacts of students infected by COVID-19 at school, and her department will have to do the work, as it did for all coronavirus infections in Lake County prior to the partial state takeover of contact tracing on May 11.
“We need staffing, we need extra help, like yesterday,” Vavilala said…
https://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lake-county-health-department-understaffed-overwhelmed-amid-covid-19-pandemic/article_0e5c5193-0bbe-5c65-82c3-b5a0396baca0.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share
Now we can KNOW for certain that Florida can open its schools. Here is the main problem. Honestly./s Labs in Florida are reporting 100% positivity rate when they should have been posting 10%.
This is BS from the far R. Nonsense that has no boundaries. Is Fox 35 news the same Fox that tells lies and covers up everything to make Trump look wonderful?
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Florida Labs Incorrectly Reported A 100% Positivity Rate For Coronavirus Tests In actuality, the positivity rates for most testing centers were often under 10 percent.
JULY 15, 2020 By Elle Reynolds
Hundreds of labs in Florida reported to the state that 100 percent of people they tested for Covid-19 had the virus, according to a new investigation by FOX 35 News. Other testing centers reported positivity rates upwards of 80 and 90 percent. In actuality, the positivity rates for most testing centers were often under 10 percent and usually under 20 percent.When FOX 35 contacted the labs with high positivity rates, several labs confirmed that the numbers were wildly inaccurate. Orlando Health, for example, had reported a 98 percent positivity rate, but confirmed to reporters that their positivity rate is actually 9.4 percent…
https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/15/florida-labs-incorrectly-reported-a-100-positivity-rate-for-coronavirus-tests/#.Xw9zdktJ1rs.gmail
Will this country ever get better when people believe this nonsense?
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EXCLUSIVE: Coronavirus Study Confirms, with Exception of New York and New Jersey, Overall Mortality Not Much Different Than a Bad Flu Season
On March 17, 2020, we were the first to identify that the WHO and the WHO’s Director General Tedros were pushing fraudulent numbers regarding the expected mortality of the coronavirus. The WHO over-stated the mortality rate of the virus by at least 30 times.
We then followed up with multiple posts on the subject. We reported on June 7, 2020, a study showed that when looking at the mortality rates for all causes this flu season, things aren’t much worse than a bad flu.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/exclusive-coronavirus-study-confirms-exception-new-york-new-jersey-overall-mortality-not-much-different-bad-flu-season/
DeSantis isn’t going to like this.
Carvalho on coronavirus in Miami-Dade: ‘We are not ready to reopen schools’
MIAMI – Miami-Dade County Public Schools Superintendent Alberto Carvalho said Wednesday that as long coronavirus cases continue to increase at the current rate schools will not be safe to reopen.
Carvalho met with Miami-Dade County Mayor Carlos Gimenez and epidemiologists who believe that the ideal environment to reopen schools would require that less than 10% of the people who get tested in Miami-Dade County are diagnosed with COVID-19.
The daily positivity rate in Miami-Dade was about 20% on July 5th and about 16% on Tuesday.
“It is actually counterintuitive and dangerous,” Carvalho said.The positivity rate for children in Miami-Dade County has been high. According to the Florida Department of Health, about 40% of minors who have been tested in Miami-Dade for the coronavirus have tested positive.Most of the children are asymptomatic carriers, Carvalho said. In Miami-Dade County, there have been 3,076 pediatric COVID-19 cases. Four boys, ages 1 to 14, and one 9-year-old girl were diagnosed with the rare COVID-19-induced multisystem inflammatory syndrome, data shows…
shows…https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/07/15/carvalho-on-coronavirus-rise-in-miami-dade-we-are-not-ready-to-reopen-schools/
Idaho isn’t doing so well.
Idaho experiences deadliest day since the coronavirus pandemic began
JULY 15, 2020
A record eight new deaths from COVID-19 were announced in Idaho on Wednesday, surpassing a previous high of six reported on two occasions.
Ada County reported four new coronavirus-related deaths to increase its total to 29, according to Boise-based Central District Health. Canyon County reported three new deaths and Jerome County added one…
“Testing in Idaho remains an issue. Although testing seems to be more readily available, there is still a deficiency in the capability to complete the testing process and get results returned quickly,” Nimiipuu Health stated in a press release. “Testing labs are also running swabs based on a set priority list; highest priority is going to hospitalized patients and medical providers, second is nursing homes and symptomatic patients, last is any other asymptomatic individual.”
Read more here: https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/coronavirus/article244255877.html?#storylink=cpy
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/coronavirus/article244255877.html
Illinois nurses on strike after stalled contract negotiations
An estimated 720 nurses at AMITA St. Joseph Medical Center in Joliet, Illinois, went on strike Saturday after contract negotiations stalled between the hospital and nurses union. Both sides have been negotiating a new contract since early spring and nurses are currently working under a contract that expired May 9, according to the union representing the nurses, the Illinois Nurses Association.
Nurses at the hospital held a strike vote in May and about 90% approved, according to the union. Since negotiations began, INA has filed four unfair labor practice complaints against the hospital for alleged intimidation and coercion and for refusing to bargain in good faith.
Concerns about staff and patient safety during the pandemic, namely adequate personal protective equipment, nurse-to-patient ratios and sick pay, are leading nurses around the country to strike against their employers for better conditions. Some of them have ongoing, or upcoming contract negotiations, boosting their leverage….
But nurses still walked off the job Saturday, and it’s unclear how long the strike will last.
Nurses in other parts of the country are striking, too. An estimated 1,200 nurses at Riverside Community Hospital in southern California wrapped up a 10-day strike today and will start negotiations for a new contract with owner HCA Healthcare, the country’s largest for-profit hospital operator.
Both HCA and Ascension cite major financial losses due to the pandemic, though both contend they haven’t had to institute furloughs or layoffs as other health systems have done.
But the unions representing nurses and other healthcare workers are pointing to federal stimulus money some of the giant chains have received as evidence they could easily afford to comply with the unions’ requests.
Ascension received more than $200 million in federal funding to offset pandemic-related losses that it doesn’t have to pay back. HCA received the most out of all for-profit operators, with a $1 billion grant….
https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/illinois-nurses-strike-ascension-COVID/581062/