Paul Waldman of the Washington Post chalks it up to sexism, although it’s possible that there was not enough space for two progressives in the race. I met Senator Warren about five years ago and we spent half an hour talking. She listened, which is rare. I thought she was the smartest elected official I had ever met.
He writes:
Is it enough, as a presidential candidate, to have smarts and charisma, to have a clear and concise message, to even be the best debater, and most of all to be the best prepared to do the job effectively?
No, it is not. Which is why so often during this primary campaign, we’ve heard supporters of Elizabeth Warren ask plaintively, “Hey, what if we got behind the person who’d actually be the best president? Why not do that?”
They asked because the number of voters willing to do that was not what it might have been, which is why Warren has announced that she’s ending her bid for the White House.
There is a temptation to say the presidential primary process is brutal and unsparing but ultimately fair. It tests you in the way no other campaign can. If you don’t win, it’s because you didn’t have what it takes. Lots of it may be out of your control, but if you were a once-in-a-generation talent like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama, you could have overcome any obstacle cast before you. Nobody deserves the nomination; either you win it or you don’t.
Which is true as far as it goes. But we can’t consider Warren’s candidacy without seeing sexism, both in fact and in perception, for the hindrance it was for her.
To be clear, sexism isn’t the only reason Warren will not be the Democratic nominee. There are many reasons. She had a few stumbles along the way, as every campaign does. There were some decisions she could have made differently.
But her campaign and the particular way it failed tell us a lot about how gender operates in presidential politics.
Let’s consider that Joe Biden is the likeliest candidate to be the Democratic nominee, despite the fact that he has run an absolutely abysmal campaign and is so erratic that sympathetic Democrats regularly tell one another, “I saw Biden give an interview, and he was completely coherent!” as though they were praising a toddler. Biden won a sweeping victory on Super Tuesday even in states where he did not campaign for a single day or have an organization. There has never in my lifetime been a winning presidential campaign that was so weak on so many dimensions.
And yet Biden is cruising toward the nomination. Why?
Because of a collective decision among a significant portion of the Democratic electorate that he is “electable,” i.e., that other people will find him inoffensive enough to vote for. As Michelle Cottle noted, one poll last year asked Democrats who they were supporting, and Biden was in the lead; when they asked who they’d rather see as president if they could wave a magic wand, Warren was in front.
You’ve probably heard that again and again: Voters saying Warren is the one they liked the best, but because they didn’t think she was electable, they were supporting someone else, most often Biden.
That perception didn’t just come of nowhere. Yes, people might be thinking of their sexist uncle or their “traditional” parents, but they also heard it again and again from the media, creating a self-reinforcing loop.
Sure, Warren can put policy issues into terms people can understand like no other candidate; sure, she has thought more seriously about the powers of the government than anyone else; sure, her anti-corruption message resonates with all kinds of voters. But she just can’t win.
Then there are all the people who said they didn’t like Warren but couldn’t quite put their finger on why. Maybe it was her voice, or that she seemed too aggressive, or that she wasn’t “authentic” enough. Not because she’s a woman, though! I’d support a woman, I would! Just not her.
He has more to say about why Warren didn’t make it. But the point is clear. This country may someday elect a woman as president. But not yet.
We need more women like Warren.
Take a look at Finland. This is NOT a distraction. It’s important information.
Who Is Sanna Marin, Finland’s 34-Year-Old Prime Minister?
Ms. Marin took office on Tuesday, becoming the youngest head of government in the world. She leads a coalition headed entirely by women.
Couldn’t agree more!
Warren is so incredibly bright. But I think she lost her bid because she is not a true progressive or liberal – or not enough of those things. Her lack of endorsing Sanders shows her true colors.
Who gets to decide what a “true progressive” or “true liberal” is?
She also didn’t endorse Biden. I feel as if this is another example of the double standard women face. A man could wait to endorse a democrat over the most right wing candidate in history, without his progressive credentials being questioned. A man could vote against reasonable gun control legislation without his “true progressive” credentials being questioned. A man could say that white voters who refuse to vote for candidates simply because they are African-American are not racists, without his “true progressive” credentials being questioned.
Warren is many women’s idea of a “true progressive” — someone who wants progressive legislation but who also understands that it takes a lot of hard work and rolling up your sleeves and compromising to get it done. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a “true progressive” and I notice she rarely repeats the right wing propaganda attacking moderate Democrats because she understands that they are not the enemy.
I don’t like the idea that Warren supporters are not “true progressives” or even worse, that they are deluded idiots who are so stupid as to believe this woman who secretly planned to sell out American to corporate interests was actually fighting for progressive things. It is insulting. And sexist.
I am not defining Warren suporters. I am explaining Warrren. Warren’s self perception and what she puts out stand to be very different than what her supporters think she is.
Still, you always put out very rich and provocative responses that generate a lot of thought and discussions. I enjoy hearing what you have to say even if I don’t alway agree with it.
Warren is not as leftist as Bernie. Perhaps that’s a better way of saying this? But Bernie’s leftism is no hotter than FDR, Johnson, and Eisenhower. Our country and its fooled populace have turned so much to the right that we think Joe Biden is pretty much fine. He’s not fine. He’s just less grotesque than Trump. And Bernie is seen is seen as a centrist in most of Europe. Warren’s lack of a Bernie endorsement says it all. Silence, as MLK once said, is equal to evil. Warren may not be evil in the conventional definition, but she’s disingenuous. Warren warrants scrutiny. She’d be better than Biden and Trump. But so what. So would Charo or Mr. Bean.
Boy, I’d really like to get to know you and your real name, NYCPSP.
Warren may not endorse Sanders because she wants to get a VP or cabinet position in the next administration which mazy be Biden’s.
Robert Rendo,
Thank you for your thoughtful post — I always enjoy reading them even when I disagree.
I agree with a number of things you posted — You are correct that Warren is not as leftist as Bernie. I agree that Bernie is not as “leftist” as European leftists (I’m not sure he’d be a “centrist”, but certainly not particularly radical at all).
But what I find disheartening is that what you wrote about Warren amounts to the same character attack that doomed HRC. Silence is equal to evil?? Warren is “disingenuous”? Warren “warrants scrutiny”? She’s barely better than Biden or Trump? None of that is true. Warren isn’t perfect, but she was offering a progressive agenda that her supporters RIGHTLY trusted her to work to enact. It is certainly fine to argue that Bernie is MORE progressive, but it wrong to say that Warren is “disingenuous” and imply that all the progressive policies she offers are not to be trusted.
Maybe it takes experiencing a little of those kind of character attacks addressed toward a candidate who you like to understand why the way you mischaracterized Warren sounds like a smear on her character.
Imagine if I wrote this: “Bernie is disingenuous. He pretends to support gun control but we know from his long history of opposing even sensible gun legislation that he can’t be trusted on that and will probably sell out to gun supporters if he is elected. Bernie also warrants scrutiny when it comes to race issues. Bernie’s comment about white voters who won’t vote for African-American candidates was very revealing. Bernie seems to be always willing to give the most racist working class white voters the benefit of the doubt and definitely seems more concerned with appealing to the racist white voters in midwestern states who supported Trump while he seems to be ignoring the concerns of African-American voters who do take racism seriously. Bernie is better than Trump on race issues, but so is Charo.”
I don’t believe that, but the above is a character attack on Bernie rather than a discussion of policies. It looks for anything that can be characterized negatively and amplifies it to make him look untrustworthy and dishonest. And ignores the totality of who the person is. That’s also what destroyed HRC.
Here is the debate I wish was happening among all democrats – including Bernie supporters (of which I happen to be one):
Bernie is offering xxx policy. Here is why it is better. Warren is offering xxx policy and I don’t think it will be as good as Bernie’s because of xxx. Biden’s policies are similar to Obama’s and we need more progressive policies.
Instead, it becomes about “trust” (you can’t “trust” Warren even if you like her policies because she is trying to fool you and she is secretly a corporate tool) or “corruption” (Biden doesn’t support Obama policies because he believes in them but because the oligarchs control him and tell him what to think and he does it because he knows they will make him rich.)
Democrats need to think about how they talked about Obama and use that as their model for criticism of other candidates. There are all kinds of brilliant and thoughtful criticism of Obama’s policies posted on this board, but it is about his policies, not his character. Think about it. People — even on this board who absolutely despised Obama’s policies — weren’t characterizing Obama as corrupt and a liar who took his marching orders from corporate oligarchs and was happy to sacrifice middle class and poor Americans to please the billionaires. They rightly pointed out that Obama’s policies and decisions were wrong without turning that into “Obama was a corrupt liar”.
I agree with this, nycpsp. I also agree with Robert’s take that she isn’t as progressive as many of her followers imagine, but that hardly makes her disingenuous. I have been her fan from way back & even contributed to her [out of state, for me] run for Senator. Not because I think her progressive. She’s somewhat progressive, but also has a strong strain of old-fashioned [Eisenhower era] economic conservatism which today is characterized as left of center. She’s been not just a scholar but also a loud voice for quite a while on the banking, brokerage, tax & trade policies that got us where we are, & full of practical proposals for turning the tide back. Those things put her squarely in the corner supporting working/ middle casses, small-biz, labor. In today’s right-skewed political spectrum that makes her “a progressive.”
It is going to be hard for the US to elect a female president. We’ve had 2 chances at electing highly intelligent, capable women & look where we are – again.
The US is about 70th on the list of countries who have had a woman president or prime minister. Not all were leaders that are progressive (e.g., Margret Thatcher) but were recognized as capable to lead a country.
The US has a long ugly history of demeaning, denying and undervaluing women. How else could Roger Ailes abuse women for 40 years & build a powerhouse of protection inside of Fox news? While Fox targets were under-educated, disgruntled, older white men, Michael Bloomberg is the prototype for highly educated wealthy white men. Bloomberg treated women as his serfs & used his power to put his foot on the necks of teachers – a female dominated profession.
I take heart in the fact that women now make up a quarter of both legislative chambers, which is a record. We may get there sooner than later.
Only 13 female GOP representatives in the House- 186 men.
Based on this example, AOC should try to run in 2024.
Senator Warren is brilliant and decent. Her showing in this contest was/is a shameful reflection on our country, on the widespread ignorance and sexism with which we are plagued. I hope, yet, to see her become President. If anyone has the right stuff for this job, she does. Thank you, Senator Warren, for your lifetime of service and for giving a lot of us hope for a better future.
These results are an embarrassment for our country, not for Senator Warren.
Compare the people elected to office in Germany and the United States:
Angela Merkel: undergraduate degree in physics. Doctorate in quantum chemistry. Fluent in German, Russian, and English.
Donald Trump: utter freaking moron, profoundly ignorant of almost everything, especially science; says that his intuition is “better than science,” that climate change and coronavirus are “hoaxes.” Speaks his own language at a 4th-grade level, according to Flesch Kincaid readability analysis of his off-the-cuff discourse.
I was surprised when she called Sanders out about a woman not being electable. It gave me a bad feeling and I believe it called attention to her gender at a time when tithe comment made news. Up until then I felt her gender was not a real issue or at least one she was overcoming with her focus on ideas popular with the audience. Given Sanders age, the statement could have had to do with his perception of the electorate not a personal idea. Then she called it to everyone’s attention. Who knows what people then concluded? Did they think, hmmm maybe since she’s female she can’t beat Trump?
Sanders denies saying such a thing.
Oh really, let’s never mention the elephant in the room?
Agreed that Warren has what we need, and perhaps this election season paves the way for her next ultimately successful bid. I look forward to her continued fighting for us all – something we should all help out with.
One can hope…
But…
One piece I think tends to get lost is that we have a reduction in (war on?) voter knowledge due to a 40+ year onslaught by the “haves” to marginalize the “not-haves” (not just the “have-nots” – if you aren’t part of the lucky-sperm-club, you are NOT part of the “haves”) .
I’m not talking simply about the Faux Nooz mis-information daily drum beat. I recall from the 2012(?) election that critical thinking was targeted in Texas Republican platform as something to be eliminated from schools (lest those little scamps think for themselves and question dad’s authority).
I think my junior high school class 40 years ago was one of the last to have a civics class as part of the curriculum.
Couple that with a loss of true journalism particularly in mass media as television (remember the 80s when the news anchor went from being the “voice of truth” Walter Cronkite to being “yer buddies behind the news desk” engaging in playful banter between stories over the thin veneer of “if it bleeds it leads”.
Devices have become the delivery medium of books and magazines building in an inherent filter of noise that effectively filters truth and facts out in favor of memes, spam, foreign bots and billionaire ad buys.
Top it all off with families that struggle with 2+ jobs just to make the mortgage, electric bill (PG&E currently price gouging to cover it’s liabilities) and pay down the visa bill while the cost of living rises faster than their wages, it is no wonder that the voting populace shies away from (flees?) understanding fact and truth and what is at stake? If you only get 10 scant minutes of mental time a day, where are you going to spend it? Realizing the dire straits we are in, or in refuge of “entertainment” and a brief respite of from the constant attack?
To change will take work, commitment and a willingness to change. Proof positive why we need to INVEST in our PUBLIC SCHOOLS, our TEACHERS, our CHILDREN and our COMMUNITY again. Because repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity.
When our people can regain the tools to focus, we may see the best candidates win instead of always settling for the lesser of two evils.
One can hope.
Great post, Rob.
I think Senator Warren is brilliant and by far the best debater. I have been her fan since she set up the consumer bureau under the Obama administration. Unfortunately, not everyone sees her the way I do. My husband is opened-minded and liberal, but he said Warren reminded him of his third grade teacher. To me she seemed verbally talented with the ability to make complex material easy to understand, just like a good teacher. My husband found her patronizing at times. I admired her fearlessness, drive and spark. My husband thought she was divisive. For whatever reason she failed to connect with many groups of voters including men and minorities, even though her staff included several minorities. I hope we see more from Warren going forward. We need passionate people in public service that fight for working people.
I think you just described “sexism” in a nutshell — your husband’s comments are exactly the double standard that women always have to face.
I think that won’t change until a new generation of voters take power.
Despite how angry Bernie supporters were with Elizabeth Warren when she talked about her conversation with Bernie, I think his entry into the race not long after Warren entered was clearly about a belief that a progressive standard bearer who was a woman would have a hard time beating Trump.
It is possible that four years of Trump — and the legitimizing of racist, sexist neo-Nazi views — is damaging the ability of women to continue on the upward trek of being taken seriously instead of being subject to an incredible double standard.
But the fact is that Bernie was probably right that a woman would have a hard time beating Trump. (And I do think he probably did allude to that when they met). Your husband’s views are not unusual, and the adjectives used: “patronizing” “divisive” , could be used to describe every male candidate, but they aren’t.
I so hope that whichever of the near octogenarians who wins the Democratic nomination chooses a woman as his or her running mate. Warren would be a GREAT choice. I suspect that in this still sexist country, it will take a woman entering the job after the death or resignation of a sitting president to smash through that ceiling. I do think that this has changed among young people and that sexism won’t be an issue in the future. But then I didn’t think that there were as many rabid racists still left in the U.S. as there are until Trump brought them all out of the woodwork.
Jimmy Carter could be a steadying force on the ticket.
LMAO!
Warren would be a fine VP. Maybe that is why she is waiting without endorsing at this time?
The scolding teacher affect is a problem in our culture for sure. I’ve been a Warren fan since before her run for Senator, & she was my Dem pick, but I shuddered to see that on the national stage– as well as the bright- cute – perky bit. Sadly we are a nation afflicted with favoring “charisma” [/ general impression of personality] over policy, re: presidential picks.
Sexism is no doubt the largest factor. If you come across like a Mom or a teacher, your challenge looks to some like ‘disapproving Mom/ teacher,’ & voters recoil. If you come across as a professor, you turn off the anti-intellectual crowd. If you’re cute & perky, you’re “just a girl.” And if you’re emotionally reserved by nature [think HRC], your challenge is read as ‘cold b****.’ Klobuchar & Harris threaded this needle well, but their experience, policy & debating skills paled next to Warren… Did she fail because of female baggage? Maybe. Or maybe because the other progressive contender w/very similar policies comes across as a regular person, not an intellectual, looking to build consensus w/the working class.
Men are given so much more latitude. Just as in initial attraction to a mate: looks count more in a woman, & men’s looks are often given a pass in favor of personality/ stability/ humor etc. But we still have some no-no’s for men seeking presidential role in our [very base] culture: chief among them is intellectuality. Cuz: America! We’re anti-intellectual! Both FDR & JFK managed to offset obvious intellectual gifts w/good looks, charm, & oratory skills. Obama almost managed it: he had all that, but once in office he often came across as a professor looking down his nose at students…
My bet is that Warren will get on the band wagon and endorse Biden. Not looking good for my man Bernie. I will still vote for Bernie (assuming he makes it to the primary) but right now it appears that Biden is riding a wave with all these high profile endorsements and his wins in all those states. At least Bernie will still be in the Senate, a lone voice for M4A. When does this nation get a brain, seriously.
It would be so interesting if Biden made Elizabeth Warren the VP pick. I know that is highly unlikely, but she really would make an excellent pick. Despite her lackluster performance in the primary, I do believe that many voters were drawn to her policies and the attacks that Republicans use to demonize Warren have less importance if Biden is at the top of the ticket. And that would be especially true if the media stops giving credibility to those false attacks in the general election and doesn’t amplify them as they have done every time a dem lost the general.
If Biden should be the candidate, he really should reach out to the progressive wing of the party, which is nearly 40% of the party.
Oh, yes, Diane!!!!!! Yes, yes, yes!!!! Most astute comment I’ve read about all this. He needs to galvanize that wing of the party.
I don’t think Warren will enthusiastically endorse Bernie. After all, she is a capitalist and Bernie…? I think Biden might be smart to make her his V.P. Don’t quote me on that, but I agree that she was probably the most well prepared to be president. If she became V.P., she might actually have a shot at the presidency in four years although her age might become a factor if a younger candidate with four more years experience gets it together..
Biden/ Warren has been my “dream ticket” since the race began. Biden to beat Trump, & Warren as fine presidential material in case he dies in office.
Although I would prefer that Warren would be President, I do hope that she at least becomes VP/
When does this nation get a brain, seriously.
My thought exactly. All my life I have watched the working people of this country vote against their own interests. It’s depressing.
She erred in getting too wonky –she doesn’t understand her audience.
Also having 9 programs that each cost a trillion dollars or more scared off a lot of people. She should have advocated for just 1 or 2 trillion dollar programs (and talked about the others AFTER she got elected).
White, male politicians with big funders from the beginning e.g. the Bush brothers rank as having the easiest path to state and national office. White politicians of modest means have an easier path than minorities. Male candidates of modest means have an easier path than women. Contrast Amy and Elizabeth with Kamala and contrast Obama’s win with Stacey Abrams’ defeat.
Catholics, evangelical Christians or Latter Day Saints could get behind a female candidate and network to propel her into office, relegating campaign funding to a lesser role. But, that won’t happen because religion in the U.S. is inextricably linked to male privilege.
We needn’t & shouldn’t look to religious orgs however $clouty to usher in any sort of progressive policies, let alone female candidates. Our organized religions lag even further behind cultural progress than legislation [arguably a good 25 yrs behind the culture– 35-40 yrs for SCOTUS]: established religious doctrine lags cultural progress by minimum 50 yrs [just a few Prot denominations] to 100 yrs [Roman Catholics] to 500+ yrs[Muslims].
As Diane suggests, there are probably a lot of reasons why Elizabeth Warren’s candidacy didn’t succeed. Gender may have been one of them, although it’s hard to quantify and qualify, and of course one does have to square that theory with the fact that most voters are women. I found Warren most compelling in the role of watchdog, anti-corruption reformer, and economic populist. As the campaign wore on, I saw less and less of that Warren, and more and more of the candidate of professional-class woke-ism. There are a lot of examples, but pledging that her Secretary of Education would need to be interviewed and approved by a “young trans person” probably did not help. The charge of sexism against Bernie was cheap, transparent, and desperate, and it probably hurt her. There may be some lesson to draw from the fact that the two candidates left standing are the least “woke” of the major candidates.
“pledging that her Secretary of Education would need to be interviewed and approved by a “young trans person” probably did not help…”
I think that demonstrates the sexism that female candidates are subjected to. Every single word they utter is parsed and amplified to demean them as if 99.9% of the things they said before AND after about their education policies were not brilliant and important. Warren had a terrific education plan and talked about it OFTEN – and even that sentence about approval by a “young trans person” came in the midst of an evening when 99% of the things she said were excellent.
Can you imagine if Trump was judged on his most ridiculous statements instead of the media taking a speech full of Trump crazy talk and using the one clip that makes sense?
If saying something that can be made to sound mildly ridiculous was disqualifying, Joe Biden would have been out of the race the first week he was in it. So would every single one of the candidates in history!
But since a woman said it once, then the other 99.99% of the things she says must be dismissed as “professional-class woke-ism” and since we live in a sexist society, one can attack and demean Warren falsely as only offering only “professional-class woke-ism ” at the end of her campaign without having to offer anything but a single example. After all, that single example is all one needs to demean a woman. I can give an example of every male candidate saying something inappropriate, so i guess they are all unsuitable, too and we should elect a dog. (who would still be better than Trump).
That sexism. There is no way for a woman to win because it is virtually impossible for any candidate to be able to not have a single gaffe during the 12 or 18 months of campaigning. But one gaffe for a woman is the end, while a man can say stupid things 100 times a week and the only thing people talk about are the good things he says.
This double standard also applies to Democrats versus Republicans (Democrats must be far more perfect while Republicans can spew nonsense 10 times a day and its fine). But the standards a woman must meet to be “electable” are 100X or 100000X as high as a man. There will be no female president as long as the requirement for a female is perfection, while the requirement for men is to make as many gaffes as you want and the media will still spin every word in the most positive way.
Oy vey. Why is sexism always the go to explanation? The fact is that Warren tried to borrow Bernie’s progressive veneer but she doesn’t have the history or the actual beliefs to back it up and she didn’t come across as credible. She spent most of her life as a die-hard Republican. She was a high-profile attorney representing big corporate clients in a lot of very unprogressive matters. She pretended to be Native not because she felt any genuine connection to the Cherokee tribe (as evidenced by the fact that she plagarized recipes from the NYT and passed them off as Cherokee family recipes) but because it served her purposes to enhance her diversity profile. She failed to endorse Bernie in 2016 and she’s failing again now. She has a few progressive credits to her name, but not the life-long history that Bernie does. End of story.
https://www.truthorfiction.com/elizabeth-warren-accused-of-claiming-to-be-cherokee-and-plagiarizing-recipes-in-pow-wow-chow/
There are other references out there as well. At least check your claims before you present them as fact. Furthermore, I did not know that endorsing Bernie was a qualification for being considered progressive.
This is what hurt Bernie on Super Tuesday. Bernie isn’t like this, but too many of his campaign surrogates and that nasty Nathan J. Robinson who writes ugly story after ugly story that depended on the underlying belief that Elizabeth Warren was so unqualified and incompetent that she had to pretend to be Native American to get all of her jobs.
Is it a coincidence when some Bernie supporters are mouthing word for word the false narrative that Trump and his right wing propaganda mavens have just decided are going to be this months’ talking points attacking whoever looks to be the Democratic frontrunner? When Warren started getting more popular, Trump started bashing her and so did Nathan J. Robinson.
The assumption in the kind of hit pieces written by people like Nathan J. Robinson is that they, as overprivileged white boy, DESERVED their places at Yale Law School and Harvard because they were so superior to all the other applicants. But Elizabeth Warren was simply an unqualified sham who had to use her Native American ancestry since she knew she could never get ahead on her own merits like a superior rich white boy like Nathan J. Robinson.
There is something utterly off putting when people who have enjoyed the privileges that allow mediocre but affluent white boys to so often rise far above what they deserve turn around and claim that someone as clearly qualified and excellent as Elizabeth Warren — who was handed NOTHING on a silver platter — didn’t get ahead on her own merits.
Hi dienne77:
I agree 1000% with your expression as well as with Guru Robert Rendo, Educator in his post on March 5, 2020 at 9:27 pm.
I hope that any female in a future presidential candidate should show her respect to any experienced veteran opponent. Most of all, being a female and veteran politician, the presidential candidate should have a leadership in uniting all other candidates, NOT CRITICIZING OR PUTTING DOWN all other politicians in the same PARTY.
The best technique is to embrace every single candidacy with a sincere enthusiasm to be in the same administration if she ever wins the presidency at the end, for instance.
Sincerely yours,
May King
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/24/elizabeth-warren-not-progressive
Not very convincing. Robinson’s measure of a “true progressive” is whether they’re all in for a socialist revolution. Does Bernie even meet his reqts? Warren’s Senate history is loaded w/on-point lambastes of financial/ banking shenanigans, & proposed policies to turn back the Reagan/ Bush/ Clinton/ Bush measures that brought the economy to its knees in 2008, & has failed to halt the subsequent re-rise of shadow banking. I don’t care whether you label it socialist, or simply a return to regulated capitalism.
To the Honorable Elizabeth A. Warren | Bob Shepherd
You are what you pretend to be,
so be careful what you pretend to be.
–Kurt Vonnegut
It was a story
passed down in her family,
how many years ago
some opposed the marriage
of their son to the woman
who was part Indian,
and the story resonated with her,
became part of her identity,
something of which she was
justly proud,
this defiance of injustice
and bloody clannishness.
This too, is a heritage,
more real,
than any imagined
bloodline.
We are not just flesh.
We are also
the stories we tell ourselves
about ourselves,
what we chose to remember,
some of it, even, true,
for memory, EVERY time,
is a reconstruction,
a confabulation,
a just-so story,
and so fallible
as to be definitive
of being human.
“Find yourself,”
the hippies used to say,
as though you were a lost sock
waiting to be found.
“You are not a lost sock,”
I say to people:
The self is self-created.
Authenticity is truth
to what you would be:
The Gods themselves
are dreams of what we could be
if we were true enough
to our vision
of what we might be.
Shame upon any
who would reject
on so shallow a basis
as imagined “race”
one who would call him
brother.
The kind of sexism that Elizabeth Warren experienced is very similar to the racism of Trump’s birther movement that Obama faced.
I think most rational people remember that the entire basis of the birther movement was dependent on embracing the idea that when Obama was born in 1961, his mother and her parents saw into the future and said “My son was born in Kenya, but someday 40+ years into the future little Barack may want to become the first African-American president, and that would require that he be born in the US, so we are going to place a birth announcement in the local Honolulu newspaper that will give Americans the false impression that baby Barack really was born in the US and not Kenya.”
Can you imagine the kind of racism it takes to embrace that as even remotely plausible? But the very same people who said that was true are pushing a similarly ridiculous and false narrative of what really happened with Elizabeth Warren and her belief that she was Native American.
For Elizabeth Warren, the sexist narrative is this:
In 1984, Elizabeth Warren, then a U. Texas law professor, knew she was really stupid and had no qualifications for her job. She said “hmm, how can I get ahead — I know, I will pretend to be Native American since I’m such a lazy told and hard work to get ahead is really an anathema to me and I certainly cannot expect anyone to think I could get ahead simply on my merit – of which I have none being the inept fake scholar I am.” Luckily, Elizabeth Warren’s first cousin, Mrs. James P. Rowsey, knew this day would come and spent many years before 1984 working at the Five Civilized Tribes Museum in Muskogee, Oklahoma in preparation for their “plot” against the American people. Together, Elizabeth Warren and her first cousin Mrs. Rowsey hatched up a plot. They would PRETEND that they had been told stories by their shared grandparent about that grandparents’ Native American ancestry. Mrs. Rowsey conspired with her first cousin to provide evidence that Sen. Warren could point to 35 years later to “prove” her ancestry. They also knew that in 10 years or so Warren would need to lie about her ancestry to get jobs at Harvard Law School because they were certain that anyone as stupid and lazy as Elizabeth Warren would never get a job like all those “smart white boys” who “earned” their positions with hard work, unlike the lazy Elizabeth Warren who just wanted to use “Native American affirmative action” to get a job she was clearly unqualified for since she knew even in 1984 what a lazy dolt she was.
Can you imagine the kind of sexism it takes to embrace that as even remotely plausible?
Can you imagine the kind of racism it takes to reject the idea that maybe Barack Obama’s grandparents put a birth announcement about his birth in the Honolulu newspaper in 1961 BECAUSE HE WAS BORN THERE? And yes, people who thought it was more likely that Obama was born in Kenya and a 40 year conspiracy was hatched to pretend he was an American were racist. Period. There is no excuse for rejecting what is sane and pretending their insane beliefs are true.
Can you imagine the kind of sexism it takes to reject the idea that maybe Elizabeth Warren and her first cousin who wrote that cookbook actually WERE told stories about their grandparent with Native American ancestry? Can you imagine the kind of sexism is takes to reject that Elizabeth Warren and her first cousin must be “lying” because these sexist attacks insist that all children who hear those stories from grandparents assume they are lies because all children grow up to say “my grandmother was a big liar and I know this because she never provided documentation of her stories”. Can you imagine that sexists reject the idea that Elizabeth Warren and her cousin was PROUD of their Native American ancestry and instead of saying “I refuse to believe it until I see documented proof”, embraced it, never thinking that down the line some women hating politicians and their propaganda minions would use it to attack her?
If anything, that cookbook that Warren’s first cousin wrote proves beyond a doubt that they took their family stories at face value. Who among us has heard a story about our grandparents and have said “i refuse to believe my great grandparent came from Ireland just because that’s what my grandfather kept telling me because i assume all those stories are false and I will never wear green on St. Patrick’s Day because I will be attacked for “lying” about my ancestry because 30 years in the future when I want a job I know that being of Irish ancestry will help me get a job from any Irish-American boss.
My extended family uses “old family recipes” all the time and I bet 1/2 of them are from the Joy of Cooking or somewhere else. My kid’s elementary school class once published a “cookbook” in which each kid submitted a family recipe from his family’s heritage. I bet half of them were from busy parents who found a good recipe on-line based on what they believed from a grandparent was part of their ancestry. “My great grandmother came from Italy, here’s a good Italian recipe”. Decades later one of their enemies tries to destroy them by claiming they had been lying about their Italian ancestry to “get ahead” all their lives. It is absurd.
When people twist themselves to believe the most absurd explanation of the facts — the way the birthers did to Obama and the liars did about Elizabeth Warren — and instead create an absurd false narrative that only sounds reasonable because the right wing media and the right wing trolls insist it is true — then they are racist and sexist.
And everyone who believes that Warren “used her Native American ancestry to get ahead” because she was the most inept and unqualified lazy lawyer who knew that the only reason anyone would EVER hire her was for her Native American ancestry”, is sexist. Because they refuse to believe that Elizabeth Warren could have ever gotten her positions based on merit. And once you accept that Warren has ALWAYS gotten her jobs on merit, the reason for her to “lie” disappears. And no one would question why she and her cousin were PROUD of what their grandparent had told them was Native American ancestry, which is why they claimed it, and not because it would get them jobs they didn’t deserve due to their incompetence.
Bernie Sanders never attacked Warren on such absurd grounds. But sadly, some of his loudest supporters did and that is part of the reason that they turned off so many voters last Tuesday. When you push an ugly narrative because you think it helps your candidate, you just look like a Trump supporter, and voters in this election were very turned off by that.
100% on-target, nycpsp.
If Elizabeth Warren truly believes in the issues she campaigned on, I would hope she endorses Bernie Sanders sooner, rather than later. Biden represents Wall Street and Corporate America. As bad as Trump is, can we really afford Bidenism and all the Third-Way baggage? People are facing $25K a year health insurance premiums, $7K per person deductibles, crushing student debt; poverty-level wages …..
I am feeling very, very disheartened after Super Tuesday.
Please, can we just have our party of FDR back?
Yes please
Baby steps. Let us — please– take a step back from neo-fascism to neo-liberalism? Maybe just for four years?… Perhaps even a Biden uses Presidency to consolidate the progressive/ centrist wing of the party? How about a Biden-Warren ticket– if Biden dies in office, or doesn’t but VP Warren runs for Pres in 2024?
I thought Biden had already died.
You mean to tell me that someone who is not brain dead can say the things Biden does?
Warren tried to to find a middle lane in the Ds , right of Bernie but left of the establishment. No such lane exists. In the end she was not trusted by centrists or progressives.
“In the end she was not trusted by centrists or progressives.”
I disagree.
Elizabeth Warren may not have been the first choice of enough progressive or centrist voters, but there is absolutely no reason to believe that anyone except a small but vocal wing of Bernie supporters did not “trust” her. (Conservative Democrats did not like her because she was too progressive, but they certainly “trusted” that she planned to push a progressive agenda). She was a top choice – if not the first choice – of many voters who worried that a woman would have a tough time winning against Trump.
One of the reasons I believe so many people got turned off of Bernie this year were these kinds of comments. It is absolutely fair to say that Warren was not the first choice of centrists or progressives and that hurt her in the primary.
But it is a false character attack to say that Warren was “not trusted”. Many progressive AND moderate voters trusted and liked Warren and would have been happy with her as the nominee even if they voted for someone else as their preferred candidate. Warren’s defeat was not because voters didn’t “trust” her. That awful word has hurt so many good Dems and progressives over the last 20 years. No one ever says that about Republican candidates or Republican politicians and that is one of the reasons that they were able to take over this country even when the voters preferred far more moderate policies. The Republicans may have been right wingers who didn’t offer anything to the middle class, but voters were told they should not “trust” Democrats, and that propaganda was repeated by Democrats themselves!
Obama won and if you look at the news coverage and man on the street interviews from when he was running in 2008, you will never hear anyone say “we just don’t trust Obama, he seems untrustworthy.”
But you will see that said about Gore, Kerry, and HRC. Even though if anyone was not to be trusted, it was the Bush/Cheney and Trump campaigns!
Warren was running first in Iowa but started backing up on medicare for all. This was fatal. To compound the error she picked a fight with Bernie. The progressive lane closed ranks behind Bernie. It was over for her.
I don’t understand this reply. You previous said that voters didn’t “trust” Elizabeth Warren. I disagree. She was very much trusted by most voters, despite the Oct/Nov 2019 Buttigeig/Klouchar/Bernie supporter narrative that hurt her a bit – that she had “backed up” from Medicare for All when she was forced (unlike Republicans) to have to provide documented evidence of how to pay for it and she took her critics up on that. Most voters were fine with her Medicare for All proposal. In fact, I think most progressives would be thrilled if either a President Sanders or President Biden had Warren as their VP knowing she might have to step in and be President. Wouldn’t you be okay with Warren having to take over from Bernie or Biden? Or would you still not “trust” her as much as a different progressive?
I really don’t think gender, race, religion, or sexual preference had much to do with the Democratic primaries this year. I think it came down to a decision between soup and salad. Joe Biden is chicken soup, not particularly healthy, but very comforting. Elizabeth Warren, with her sharp wit, is kale salad with cranberries, very healthy, but not comfort food by any stretch of the imagination.
Thank you, Diane. Sad. Cali
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Biden is a weak candidate. Other than tweaking Obamacare, he has no policy proposals. Returning to the status quo is a fantasy. The United States is woefully unprepared for a pandemic. We are backtracking on environmental protections. We are heading toward the Koch recipe for climate change. Biden has nothing to offer other than a charm offensive. The Democratic establishment has handed victory to Trump. The last policies they wish to see are reduction of income inequality and a progressive tax structure.
Spot on!!! Oh, and BTW:
If the virus isn’t halted, it could infect 60 per cent of the world’s population and kill one in 100 of those infected – around 50 million people – Gabriel Leung, at the University of Hong Kong, told The Guardian on 11 February.
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2233269-how-bad-is-the-covid-19-coronavirus-outbreak-likely-to-get/#ixzz6FsDVpmgj
But hey, Donald Trump’s intuition is much better than science is, and being an infectious disease expert, he told Hannity yesterday in a televised phone call that people with the “corona flu” just go to work as usual because it’s not that bad.
The World Health Organization said today that their estimate of the death rate for infected persons is 3.4 percent. If Leung is right and there is a 60 percent infection rate, then:
0.60 x 0.034 x 8 billion = 163,200,000 deaths worldwide
0.60 x 0.034 x 329.45 million = 6,720,780 deaths in the United States
But don’t worry. Mike Pence is on the job!
Once Biden, twice shy
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I disagree. Biden at a minimum brings Afro-Americans back under the Dem umbrella,& along w/that brings some policies re: equitability, & has some perhaps weak-kneed but better than zero under Reps pro-union policies. As important, he brings sanity & experience to foreign policy. The only thing at this point that counts is whether he can beat Trump. I don’t think Sanders can do it, because too many voters see him as a “socialist.” He may be weak tea, but many Americans after four yrs of Trump may be ready for baby steps back toward sanity. He may be the bridge we need to move forward.
She was my choice. I am heart-broken. She was everything Biden is not, and more.
Warren was leading the entire field until she started to backtrack on medkcare for all. It then nosedived when she seemed to pick a fight with Bernie. She never recovered.
To whomever may concern,
Would every voter prefer to live in free spirit and being able to help other human being?
Or would every voter prefer to live with lie after lie from veteran politician with substantial records of his empty promise?
Yes, no one is perfect, but at least being decency to fight for human right minimum like for basic healthcare for all tax payers, for Public education for all from kindergarten to grade 12, ….Every person needs to pay minimum equally 5 % income tax without exemption based on their basic survival income from poor to rich or super rich.
Every person shall have equal share or responsibility to live, to work, to eat and to sleep peacefully, safely, and harmony
Whoever is poor, rich, or slow, smart, or handicapped, strong, or religious, atheist, we should be impartial with national legal system – humanitarian is the important attitude to behave.
Therefore, I hope that all American Educators will unite to vote for Senator Bernie Sanders. Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Senator Amy Klobuchar should endorse Senator Bernie Sanders who did not sharply criticize all other presidential candidates, but Senator Sanders have always been protected all minority population from the young age in his student background and in his belief of humanity solidly. Back2basic
I’m disappointed that her anti-corruption message wasn’t more popular. I think it’s really important. We have rampant,unchecked corruption in this country and we don’t seem to prosecute anyone anymore for anything other than drug offenses or violent crime.
I’m afraid she tried to be all things to all people instead of staying with her core issues, which have always been anti-corruption “good government” stuff and populist economic policy.
Maybe the corruption has to get worse before people treat it like it’s important. I hope not. It’s pretty darn bad already.
I just hope Biden doesn’t hire the exact same set of people, particularly in education,which IMO was Obama’s absolute worst effort. Please don’t bring those people back. It’s a big country. Cast a wider net. See if you can find and hire a couple of people who actually attended public schools and non-elite colleges and who value PUBLIC education.
Biden pledged support to public education. I am worried he will forget all about it once the charter lobby shows up on his doorstep, that’s, of course, if he doesn’t get eaten alive in a campaign against Trump.
For him, support of public education means charter school, voucher and testing support.
My biggest concern about Biden is he seems to latch onto really bad ideas that are popular among the small set of people he listens to. The list of bad decisions with him is long- Iraq, the nonsense he swallowed on bankruptcy and cutting entitlements.
I don’t think he does his own thinking. He seems to swallow whatever nonsense is fashionable at the moment. He was a big Theranos promoter, for example. Is he smart? What’s the evidence for that?
Warren didn’t make it to the end because the money hungry, power brokers didn’t want her to make it to the end. EW was a threat to their money and investments. They don’t call them “spin doctors” for nothing! Just watching the “message” that is being put out by multiple media outlets, one can see how they (the power brokers) change the image after every single debate or after a candidate drops out. For a while, Bernie was in the press and he was unstoppable, but now that Bloomberg, Mayor Pete and Warren are out, the media is portraying Biden as the front runner. Unfortunately, a large part of the public listens to the “messaging” instead of doing their own research on the candidates. We live in a world of convenience…..and it’s so easy to just turn on the TV set or log into a favorite news site and get all “the answers”. When will we ever stop voting against our own best interests?
Recently, Nancy Pelosi had the opportunity to campaign for a female Justice Democrat in Texas. She chose to stump for the conservative man who voted 70% of the time with Trump.
” Biden is cruising toward the nomination. Why?”
Because of a collective decision among a significant portion of the Democratic electorate that he is “electable,”
And who has convinced the significant portion of the electorate that Biden is electable and that others (including Warren) are not?
The corporate media like the Washington Post (aka Bezos’ hos)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/15/bernie-sanderss-agenda-makes-him-definition-unelectable/
And much of Sanders “agenda” was also Elizabeth Warren’s agenda, so by extension, according to the Post’s “argument”, Warren was also the “definition of unelectable”
The corporate media decide whom we should vote for and even whom we CAN vote for.
Like Fox, MSNBC and CNN, The Post has become an embarrassment to journalism, especially since Bezos bought it. But Waldman would never criticize the Post, of course, cuz they pay his salary.
I don’t find this reasoning convincing that the “corporate media” decided that Biden was electable over every other candidate that was supposedly only doing well because they were pushed by the “corporate media”. I thought the “corporate media was pushing Buttigieg. or was it Klobuchar? In fact, only a few weeks ago I heard that the “corporate media” was pushing Bloomberg.
Remember when that corporate media announced to every American voter that Biden was dead in the water? I do. They also said that about Trump and he still won primary and general election.
Biden’s momentum changed because he won over a lot of African-American voters in South Carolina at a time when he had little money or push from the media (which was all about describing him as about to withdraw). I don’t know why Bernie did not get much support there, but it wasn’t the “corporate media” who caused those voters to prefer an old white guy who seemed likely to be out of the race soon. I think that some voters might have been turned off by the condescension of Bernie supporters (not Bernie himself, who is terrific).
I agree. The corporate media didn’t revive Biden’s campaign. African Americans in South Carolina did. On Super Tuesday he won states where he had no campaign office. That was the SC echo.
And that happened because of a single endorsement by Jim Clyburn. Endorsements are not good; they make people bypass thinking, stop listening to their own thinking: “You know why I vote for Biden? Because Jim Clyburn does it, and he is a smart man.”
Clyburn’s big argument for supporting Biden: “My wife loved him so much, and I know him well.”
Endorsements are not good; they make people bypass thinking, stop listening to their own feelings: …
Another possibility why Biden was doing well was because of voter machine manipulations. Based on the gigantic difference between the exit polls and the official vote count in MA, this article casts (well researched and argued) for doubts on the whole election.
http://tdmsresearch.com/2020/03/04/massachusetts-2020-democratic-party-primary/
The fact is that computer security experts do not recommend the use of voting machines. But we do not listen to experts. Other countries do listen: In France, less than 1% of the municipalities use voting machines and in Canada they use paper ballots.
Electronic voting machines are vulnerable to hackers
And THAT, I’d posit, is the cataclysmic and catalytic force we are fighting, not the ruling elite. The ignorance of the American people is 400,000 times more powerful than any group of politicians or single official. The power of the American people dwarfs the Illuminati, the Waltons, Jeff Bezos, the Gates, Royal Saudi wealth, and the Chinese Communist Party combined; nothing is more powerful than the people.
Therein lies the solution and also the horrific problem of America. Its own immune system is attacking itself, thinking all the while that it is defending itself. How ironic and perverse.
It’s sad and infuriating, but more disease like Biden or Trump (they are different strains and different strengths) will always, happily, bring about more development of anti-bodies, which is why more people like Bernie and AOC will be supported and eventually rise to appropriate power, populating the House and Senate.
This is not myopic. It’s very real, given how young people and others are justifiably pissed off and oppressed.
I don’t know how/if sexism has affected her chance to win at least one state for delegates. To me, it seems like she missed her opportunity go after her main opponent(Biden) to appeal to the voters who she is and what makes her strong candidate to beat Trump. The fact that her nemesis stole the votes from her shows that she couldn’t get the job done. I hate to say that she doesn’t really have good strategists in her team. Also, I still don’t understand why she remains silent on her endorsement after announcing her exit.
I am not sure I am not being hypocritical in mentioning the meme of Bernie bros being particularly nasty in their attacks on Warren, since I do not follow Twitter or Instagram or whatever is the current “go to” platform on the subject. However, if there is an element of truth in the assertion, I can certainly understand Warren’s reluctance to jump right in with an endorsement. Is her endorsement all of a sudden “good enough” for Bernie diehards? Plus, I think she has VP potential maybe more so with Biden than Sanders. If Sanders wins the nomination, I have no doubt she will support him wholeheartedly although I suspect Sanders’ supporters of the more virulent type will dismiss her endorsement.
Probably too late for anyone to read this but Diane–will try, anyway:
speduktr: I am very suspicious of “Bernie Bros”–whether they actually exist, or are effective trolls–perhaps people (anyone can be anyone online) who are actually IQ45 supporters. I haven’t been volunteering this election cycle (Warren may have been my original choice–i.e., up until she attacked Bernie which is, to my way of thinking, part of the reason she tanked in the polls {not just the primaries} immediately after; having heard comments by many progressives, I believe people just may have crossed over to Bernie, finding her to be mistrustful; she was really nasty {& I don’t mean in that rah-rah “nasty woman” way}–refusing to shake his hand, asking him if he’d “called her a liar on national tv?”). In the 2016 contest, though, I did volunteer for Bernie–& in several states. I never once came upon any men who were these “Bernie Bros.” In fact, there were a lot of ridiculous accusations: no, “Bernie Bros.” did not disrupt & prevent IQ45’s UIC rally in Chicago; no, “Bernie Bros” did not “throw chairs” at a
Nevada Democrats meeting. Therefore, I really question this “Bernie Bros” reality. That having been said, I do know people (men and women) who harangued my friends who were passing out Warren literature (but, a few people doing this on one day).
I’m really sad Warren dropped out–she’s an excellent debater & I would have loved to see her onstage w/orange bluster (he probably would have refused to debate her, so scared of her smart, sharp tongue), but I honestly think she unfortunately shot herself in the foot.
My final thought being: best case scenario–Sanders-Warren or Warren-Sanders ticket.
Maybe the former can still happen, but I predict she’s gonna endorse Biden.
As I think I said at the time, I don’t follow social media, so I am really oblivious to what goes on there unless it hits the national media (ie Trump’s tweets). I was under the impression that the Bernie Bros referred to social media sniping. I can’t imagine that Sanders or Warren would tolerate such behavior at public events, and people seem to lose their inhibitions when it comes to nastiness in relative anonymity. My understanding was that Warren was unaware there were live mikes when she spoke, and that she was especially irritated by online comments, but that was speculation probably as well as what she perceived as Sanders calling her a liar. I have a feeling that some apologizing went on behind the scenes between them. Bernie has not always endeared himself to his fellow legislators, so I don’t doubt that he could have been less than diplomatic in how he might have characterized Warren’s chances. I don’t think Warren was staging her anger/outrage, but they seem to have settled it. That being said, if she endorses him before he wins the nomination, I will be surprised. While they agree in principle about a lot of things, I suspect that how they get there is a bit different. I should lay out their platforms side by side, not that it makes much difference now. I doubt Warren would be his V.P. It has got to be particularly challenging when you don’t see eye to eye with the President to have to lobby for his position. She can have a much bigger effect in the Senate.