Bob Shepherd is a teacher, an author, a curriculum developer, and many other things.
On Reading Poems
Two thoughts, tonight, about poetry
First, a theory of poetry and how it means:
Perhaps the most important lesson that I received, in college, about reading poetry occurred on a day when, in a class on nineteenth-century American poets, I commented that unlike just about everyone else, I wasn’t a fan of Edgar Allan Poe’s poetry—that it seemed to me phony through and through. The guy made significant innovations in the short story. He invented BOTH the detective story and the madness/supernatural ambiguity on which so much horror and science fiction rides, but his poetry, mostly, seems to me contrived and false. The professor said, “Hmm. That’s a problem, your not believing him, because you can’t read a poem well without being willing to take the author’s trip.” And then he shoved everything off his desk and lay back on it and closed his eyes and recited “Annabel Lee” from memory. I still hold to my opinion about Poe. But I’ve never forgotten that lesson.
One thing I tried to teach my students about reading in general and, in particular, about reading poetry, is that they have to enter into it—they have to go into that world of the poem in their imaginations, and then they have an experience there, and that experience has significance of some kind, and that’s what meaning means in poetry. It’s the significance to the reader of that experience that he or she had. That doesn’t mean that any reading will do. If the poem is well-constructed, that experience will be quite specific, and the reader will be led inexorably to have something very like the experience and to gain from it something very like the significance that the writer intended. The whole thing is an exercise in bridging an ontological gap–my mind and experiences and understandings over here, yours over there. Poetry is a form of communication that tries—sometimes successfully! —to do the impossible. It’s the heavy-duty artillery for doing that job.
This is why it’s so awful that some English teachers approach poems by reading them aloud and then asking, “What does this mean?” as though poets were these perverse people who hide their true meanings and as though the meaning of a poem is some blithering generality (the answer to that English teacher’s question: e.g., Life is transitory. It’s better to have loved and lost than never to have loved. Some such generalized bs).
There’s an old joke that asks, “How many Vietnam veterans does it take to change a lightbulb?” Answer: “You wouldn’t know because you weren’t there, man!” The reader who turns a poem into a blithering generality hasn’t taken the poet’s trip, hasn’t had that vicarious experience, hasn’t learned things from the experience that mattered, that had significance, that were meaningful in that sense.
So, a poem is the very opposite, at its core, of a vehicle for expression of a general principle, though one can glean general principles from good poems, as from life. A good poem is incredibly concrete and precise. Every added detail further delimits the precision, the particularity, of the world of the poem. To be specific about this, to say that Matthew Arnold’s “Dover Beach” is about anguish at the loss of faith is true enough, but if that’s it—if that’s its sole meaning to you—then you weren’t really there, man. The moment that Arnold describes so precisely, has to be experienced—that fellow, standing at the window, looking at the receding tide, which no longer speaks but is a freaking thing roaring mechanically, who tries to have this conversation with the woman in the room who isn’t really interested, whom he fears does not love him, is experiencing loss on so many levels—of faith, of hope, of belief in the progress of the world, of love. And if you’ve gone there, if you’ve inhabited him as you read the poem, and if you’ve experienced his PARTICULAR experience, then it’s not one that you’ll readily forget. It’s wrenching, and heart-breaking. And it will be quite meaningful to you.
Great poetic writing renders with a few incredibly deft strokes that entire world into which the reader enters. A few words are enough to bring it fully, hauntingly, breathtakingly into being in the mind of the reader. This is what Derek Walcott was talking about in the opening of his “Map of the New World: 1. Archipelagoes”:
At the end of this sentence, rain will begin.
At the rain’s edge, a sail.
Poof. Rain. A sail. A world. He’s talking about the freaking ancient MAGIC by which, via words, one brings a world into being. It’s what’s left for Homer to do now that Helen’s hair is a grey cloud and Troy is an ashpit in a drizzle.
So, poems mean in a way that treatises don’t. And this is why authenticity is so important in poetry—why that’s what separates the good from the bad, “Dover Beach” from the typical high-school versifying of adolescent angst and Valentines. If the poem doesn’t create an authentic world, you can’t go into it. There’s no coherent there to go into.
There has to be a there there. I have a young friend, Brooke Baker Belk, who is a very great poet. There’s a there there in her work, and this separates it from almost everything else being written now.
Second, the need for poetry to have something to say.
I love Shelley. And I think that he’s far more important than most people realize. He wrote in “A Defense of Poetry” that “poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world,” and ironically, that’s true of him today. HE FREAKING INVENTED the language that we use to talk about our emotions, and every stupid pop song in the 20th and 21st century owes an enormous debt to the language he used. No Shelley, no “Sounds of Silence” or “Stairway to Heaven.” But the writers of those songs and the consumers of them typically did not and do not have a clue that this is so. And he did it so, so, so much better, ofc, than rock star lyricists typically do, Lord knows. By all the gods, he could use words well. And what a spirit he had! He was probably murdered, you know, by British intelligence because of his rabble-rousing for Irish independence (this was the proximate and determinative cause, but he was also loathed by conservatives for being an aristocrat who hated aristocracy, for espousing republicanism and the end of monarchy, for being a model to young people, they thought, of atheism and sexual license).
But there’s an aspect to his work that really troubles me: He had a lot of really bad ideas. Platonism, determinism. Stupid, wrong, dead-end ideas. Stuff from his time. He died young. Too young, d**n it, for he was brilliant. He wrote sooooo well, and he was brilliant. At the age of 24, he could read ancient Greek as you read Google News. Perhaps in time he would have developed some good ideas (aside from his political ones). Poetry, like other writing, is supposed to communicate. It renders significant experiences, and so they have an earned quality, like actual life. And in the greatest poetry, what is earned is intellectually, spiritually, morally, or in some other way significant. It matters. It’s fresh and new and insightful. And so, it helps, a lot, for anyone who wishes to write poetry to have something to say. The very best poems always do. “A Tree Telling of Orpheus.” “Dover Beach.” “Credences of Summer.” “Directive.” ‘Mr. Flood’s Party.” “Lucinda Matlock.” “Among School Children.” “Easter 1916.” Almost anything by Blake or Rumi. These poems provide deeply significant experiences that teach, about life, about other people. It’s worth taking their authors’ trips.

Nothing to say other than this is just lovely and so nice to read in the midst of the ugly distortion of language swirling around us. Thank you, Mr. Shepherd.
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Well put, Mike. Yes. Thanks to you and Bob and everyone on here.
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Truth . . . like a long drink of cool water on a sweltering afternoon. CBK
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Bob Sheperd! My Captian!
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What a surprise to see this here, Diane! And thank you for posting it. And many thanks, Mike, CBK, RT, for the kind comments. Much appreciated!
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Bob,
I save things I like and post serendipitously.
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I should have entitled this “A Polemic against Multiple-Choice Standardized Tests on Poetry (Are You Listening, Pearson?)”
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I listened to a renown poet read a poem with absolutely no inflection. He could have been reading the back of a cereal box for all I knew. I was deeply disappointed because I could not read his poem without an emotional reaction. I wanted to hear what he experienced. It’s kind of like watching a movie without a soundtrack, just subtitles, although you can still figure out what the actors are feeling from their body language and facial expressions in the case of film. The poet took great care, as I remember, not to convey any reaction. I know he probably wanted each of us to have our own reaction to his words. I didn’t need him reading it for that. Can you explain what he was trying to do, Bob?
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Sounds to me like you might have hit it on the head, Speduktr. But, ofc, there are many possibilities.
One: this poet might just not have been very good at public speaking. A lot of folks aren’t. It takes training, which is a good thing, because it keeps people who teach drama and film and speech and debate (as I have done) in their jobs. It takes a lot of in and outdoor schooling to master the elements of dramatic interpretation (and of speech generally): pitch and intonation, stress, length, rhythm, pace, volume, timbre, articulation, enunciation, diction, respiration, facial expression, eye contact, gesture, stance, posture, proximity, heightening, expectation, pauses, movement, register, dialect, appearance, kairos/rhetorical context, paralinguistic vocalization, body language, appropriateness and variety of all of these.
Two: some ideas have long lives. The Modernist phenomenon in the early twentieth century, exemplified by Pound and Eliot and by the new Critics and by their championing of poets like Donne over poets like Wordsworth and Tennyson, was a reaction against facile, sing-songy Romanticism, and that Modernism was highly intellectualized. It might be that this poet has drunk deeply from the Modernist horn and associates such deadpan delivery with sophistication. Ofc, sing-songiness is inauthentic, and authenticity matters in poetry, and that’s why there is a golden mean between the sing-songy and the deadpan.
But, ofc, what Modernism actually did was show us that poems can do these other things, too, and the great tradition in poetry in English is the Romantic one, and a lot of outstanding poetry is music, is song, and it helps, a lot, to have a good singer. I am a huge proponent of having kids memorize and perform poems. My grandmother on my mother’s side, at the age of 93, would proudly recite the opening lines of Hiawatha, which she had memorized from her McGuffy’s Reader in the third grade! And speaking of Modernism, years ago, at Indiana University, I had the good fortune of taking a class on 20th century American poets from the great Jewish Studies scholar Alvin Rosenfeld. Rosefeld often read whole poems to us, and he understood them so well, and his delivery was so nuanced and expert, that pretty complex stuff became as clear as a swift mountain spring in his dramatic interpretations.
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So, read to kids, to adults, to everybody. Hold poetry readings/poetry jams at school. Poetry is an ORAL form, older than prose, originating around campfires and in fields and house-raisings and so on, where people sang work songs together.
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At my last job, some high school students used to regularly perform rap poems complete with “locker” drums across the hall from my room during one passing period. They made what some people might consider quite a racket, but as I waited for my next class to assemble, I used to stand in the doorway and sway to the music. It was my first experience where I can actually say I enjoyed rap.
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Often, writers and poets are quiet people who are not used to, or even who abhor, speaking in public. What’s going on “inside” is quite another story, perhaps.
I remember that when I began to teach in college, it took a long time for me to walk into a classroom and feel the comfort in front of an “audience” of students that all professionals feel when good at their jobs. Communicating in person and writing what you want to communicate are vastly different “skills” . . . by that I mean they take their own sort of practice to be good at it.
Some are “natural” communicators, of course, and some have to work hard at it. I watch with great admiration people like Brian Williams (MSNBC) who can “off-the-cuff” so well–stuff that comes up in the conversation and CANNOT have been readied for. CBK (aka: tongue-tripper and teller of stories that are always funny when someone else tells them.)
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Lucky students to be sitting in your classes, CBK!
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So wise, Speduktr. Those who have ears will hear. In the music of young men and women in this country doing art of the kind you are talking about, poetry is very much alive.
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BOB, I have never encountered such a wonderful account of HOW a poem means.
Thank You
I do have a well-worn treasured copy of John Ciardi’s How a Poem Means.
In grade 7 every student had to memorize and recite a poem for the class. That exercise was also a lesson in overcoming fear in public speaking.
I chose When Earth’s Last Picture Is Painted. by Rudyard Kipling. 1922 from a book at home titled “One Hundred and One Famous Poems,” likely the 1929 edition.
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My case is made. The brilliant Laura Chapman, whose well-stocked mind must come from a lifetime of intense and important experiences, nonetheless remembers clearly and fondly memorizing Kipling’s great children’s poem! This stands out.
When Wallace Stevens writes “Things as they are/Are changed upon the blue guitar,” he is doubtless alluding to this Kipling. Kipling was, ofc, at one time, universally read in childhood by Europeans and those of European descent.
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It’s difficult now, ofc, to read Kipling without being appalled by how clearly he exemplifies Victorian colonialism, racism, imperialism, jingoism. This is the guy who wrote “The White Man’s Burden,” which might well have been penned by Stephen (Goebbels reincarnation) Miller and is truly horrifying at a time when Jabba the Trump has established his Whiter House.
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i knew you would have a grand time with the brief factoids from my peronsal history. I agree with your judgments about Kipling here and below…but those realizations came along much later. They were beyond my understanding at the time.
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Bob, thank you for your deep understanding of poetry–way beyond rhyme schemes and poetic devices. And how you convey the need-importance of getting into a poem.
My favorite poet, A.E. Housman, (probably you will argue it’s a bad idea to have a favorite…) was introduced to me by my HS English teacher.
I confess to liking rhymed poems. Housman was and remains indelible. The lyric beauty of his words. Love them just for their sound. And they also conveyed to my adolescent ears–meaning and wisdom.
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Read poems silently. Reread the poems and annotate. Click the annotation toolbar to annotate the text. Highlight the central idea. Underline two significant supporting details. Click on all correct answers to the text-dependent questions. Click on the box below the questions and enter a 200 word answer to the following: Identify a poetic device and analyze its meaning. When completed, click End Test.
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Well said, LeftCoast. Diane doesn’t allow the only appropriate response to this kind of thing in her living room.
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Support your reply with evidence from the text.
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You know, LeftCoast, it kills me that these idiot Education Deformers imagine that no one ever read a text carefully or cited evidence to support a reading until Bill Gates appointed David Coleman–by divine fiat?–to do the thinking for all the rest of us (if you can call what Coleman did–his muddling together a hash of previously existing mediocre standards–thinking). But I have some news for Coleman, Gates, and their philistine ilk–people want to read carefully and cite evidence to support their readings because they have fallen in love with a work. That comes FIRST. That’s job 1 for us as English teachers. Those people, the Deformers and Disrupters, can take their endless, mind-numbing test prep and multiple-choice test questions and. . . . As Whitman said,
When I heard the learn’d astronomer,
When the proofs, the figures, were ranged in columns before me,
When I was shown the charts and diagrams, to add, divide, and measure them,
When I sitting heard the astronomer where he lectured with much applause in the lecture-room,
How soon unaccountable I became tired and sick,
Till rising and gliding out I wander’d off by myself,
In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time,
Look’d up in perfect silence at the stars.
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That’s it, Bob! So much stuff they made me read and dissect in high school that I was not ready to read and did not enjoy. It was in wandering off to look at the stars that my love of reading grew. Those kids beating on the lockers in time with their words resonated with me in a way that writing I am “supposed to” admire never did. I am not a sophisticated reader and my tastes are simple, but amazingly enough every once in awhile some profound truth pops out of the mouth of some rather ordinary character or a merely popular author pours forth a symphony of words. Then I have something to share.
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My favorite was EA Robinson. His description of the fire: “…a witless masquerade of things that only children see” . Aaron Stark with “eyes that glowed like little dollars in the dark”. The view of Richard Cory from the outsider abruptly contrasted with his painful and tragic end.
My daughter has pronounced great evil upon your head for not liking Poe etry. I told her that was why they made chocolate and vanilla. The truth is that the poet holds with whom he will. The imagery and the form may grab some and escape others. So be it.
Here was a lot of poetry in my youth that escaped my under-developed understanding. Still more I have yet to grasp. Tennyson rendered the Tales of King Arthur in verse in a wonderful telling of the story. I have long considered how difficult that must have been. Being able to write within the strict confines of verse is hard for me. From sonnets to raps, this is a difficult craft.
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I have many favorite poems. It’s hard to pick one. One I memorized is Gérard Manley Hopkins, “Spring and Fall, to a Young Child.” Read it. It’s beautiful.
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Márgarét, áre you gríeving
Over Goldengrove unleaving?
Leáves like the things of man, you
With your fresh thoughts care for, can you?
Ah! ás the heart grows older
It will come to such sights colder
By and by, nor spare a sigh
Though worlds of wanwood leafmeal lie;
And yet you wíll weep and know why.
Now no matter, child, the name:
Sórrow’s spríngs áre the same.
Nor mouth had, no nor mind, expressed
What heart heard of, ghost guessed:
It ís the blight man was born for,
It is Margaret you mourn for.
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“My daughter has pronounced great evil upon your head for not liking Poe etry.” Yikes!!! My poor head!!! In my defense, did I mention that he was a genius? (I am imaging being attacked by invisible “winged seraphs of Heaven” and sorely afraid.)
OK, I admit that his poetry has its moments, and Lord knows it commands audiences and has endured. (And the necrophiliac aspect of “Annabel Lee” certainly powerfully suggests having been driven mad by love. What a shocker! Charlotte Brontë uses the same idea in Wuthering Heights to great effect.) Years ago, I worked for a time in the Lilly Library. Among the items in the collection was a lock of Edgar Allan Poe’s hair that he included in a letter he wrote late in his short life to one of the many married women he was serially enamored of.
But, you know, Poe had a bit of the confidence man in him. He self-published his first book of poetry anonymously (Tamerlane and Other Poems, “by a Bostonian”) and then wrote glowing reviews of his own work in the press. Very effective marketing! LOL. And after the success of “The Raven,” he made a bundle going around delivering his lecture “The Philosophy of Composition,” which is utter claptrap about how he went about creating that poem, as fictional as is “The Fall of the House of Usher.”
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Wow. All the great poets mentioned here, so far! Robinson, Houseman, Hopkins!!! So, let’s hear it–give me your top five greatest hits (I know, that’s unfair; it should at least be a top 100). Here’s one who has been ringing in my head today:
Petit, the Poet
By Edgar Lee Masters
Seeds in a dry pod, tick, tick, tick,
Tick, tick, tick, like mites in a quarrel—
Faint iambics that the full breeze wakens—
But the pine tree makes a symphony thereof.
Triolets, villanelles, rondels, rondeaus,
Ballades by the score with the same old thought:
The snows and the roses of yesterday are vanished;
And what is love but a rose that fades?
Life all around me here in the village:
Tragedy, comedy, valor and truth,
Courage, constancy, heroism, failure—
All in the loom, and oh what patterns!
Woodlands, meadows, streams and rivers—
Blind to all of it all my life long.
Triolets, villanelles, rondels, rondeaus,
Seeds in a dry pod, tick, tick, tick,
Tick, tick, tick, what little iambics,
While Homer and Whitman roared in the pines?
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Here’s a taste of the work of Brooke Belk. You are going to hear a lot more from her. Her work is breathtaking. She has written a couple dozen poems that make up a collection that will be as shattering in its beauty and originality and profundity, when it appears, as was Frost’s North of Boston or Eliot’s Prufrock. She has written a dozen poems every bit as good as my favorites among contemporary poems–as works like Adrienne Rich’s “Bears” or Robert Pinsky’s “From the Childhood of Jesus” or “The Want Bone.” She’s looking for a publisher. The one who publishes her first will have done the literary world an historic service.
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Bon, I just forwarded Brooke Belk’spoem to a friend who edits a literary journal.
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Thank you, Diane.
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Decades and decades before
Enlightenment by the Common Core:
A.E. Housman
With rue my heart is laden
For golden friends I had,
For many a rose-lipt maiden
And many a lightfoot lad.
By brooks too broad for leaping
The lightfoot boys are laid;
The rose-lipt girls are sleeping
In fields where roses fade.
A gem. And no doubt our critical thinking was dulled by having to read Shakespearean sonnets, The Idylls, EA Robinson, Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard.
Dead Poets, philistines, whose contributions to language and thought, stood in the way of reading exams and the redeeming joys of test preparation.
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Thank you, Fred. Yes.
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I love Housman too. I too like rhyming poetry.
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I like rhyming poetry too, but I bet no one would ever have guessed it.
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Older anthologies for primary students always had poems and chants interspersed among the stories.. You do not see that so much in today’s curriculum. Young children love poems, chants and simple songs and learn them quickly. The sound of language draws them in.
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Among the corny poems that I always loved, “Casabiana,” which has been parodied many many times. There was a time when every school child knew it. It begins:
The boy stood on the burning deck
Whence all but him had fled;
The flame that lit the battle’s wreck
Shone round him o’er the dead.
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Caligirl From what you say about how things are now, it’s beginning to look allot like curriculum developers are paying more attention to funders and money-watchers than to teachers, much less to long-time researchers in child development–cognitional-psychological, social, philosophical, political, and cultural influences.
Let’s face it: we CAN put today’s pervasive political ignorance squarely at the door of PUBLIC education over the last 50+ years (oddly, as long as ALEC has been around?) That ignorance could have been predicted if the “we” of education had its long-term political wits up to snuff for all that time. Instead, there has been a pervasive lessening and even portentous omission in our schools of the arts and humanities, but especially “history” and what used to be called “social studies” that included a solid political component. We continue the fight, but it seems to me we are really late-comers to a full understanding of just how destructive are those who foster the problems we focus on here on this blog.
Is it any wonder why it’s taking so much work (via Diane and so many others) to play catch-up. The oligarchs like Gates and the Waltons, from behind their Dollar Doors, and the many politicians among us, have been “educated” out of a complex and comprehensive understanding of what they are actually doing–I am convinced . . . they have stupidly or consciously embraced the evil of ignorance or the ignorance of evil, but it’s evil nonetheless. CBK
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The anthologies I edited—THE AMERICAN READER and THE ENGLISH READER—contain most of the best loved poems that almost all schoolchildren once read.
The greats and the classics are there.
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There’s a connection ofc between Diane Ravitch being the fine writer and researcher she became and her having fallen in love, when she was a kid, with stuff like “Casabianca” (and “My Shadow,” and “Little Orphant Annie,” and so on).
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The sounds of language are the reason young children (and Some DAM poets) find Dr. Seuss so mesmerizing.
Personally, I think a hankering for Dr. Seuss is hardwired in our brain at birth.
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The Poet
The poet is sketcher
With words and with rhyme
An imagery fetcher
In synch with the time
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In sync
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imagery catcher” also works
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I like catcher! Nice piece, SomeDAM. I love what Ginsberg said of Whitman. He called him a “lonely old courage grubber.” Courage grubber is not a bad sobriquet for a poet.
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I, too, am horrified at poetry being reduced to a multiple choice test. If there is one literary element that is completely subjective it has to be poetry, which is why Plato hated it and wanted it banned. Many literary types think that poetry is the latest and most exalted form of communication, but the writer Owen Barfield (History in English Words, Poetic Diction) proves that poetry was the original means of communication and we are steadily witnessing its decline into an increasingly prosaic mode and can no longer understand or appreciate the mythic origins of language.
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Beautifully said, Abby! And spot on!
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