Republicans and their Dear Leader have called climate change “the greatest hoax” of our time. Trump was asked yesterday if he had read the UN report on the dangers posed by climate change and he answered “Not yet” (translation: never), and he said, “who wrote it?” implying that it was probably from some hysterical scientists and he wouldn’t believe it if he read it. Which he won’t.
New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof writes:
As Hurricane Michael rips through homes and communities, we send our sympathies to all those in its path, but let’s also review what some leading Florida residents have said about climate change.
“One of the most preposterous hoaxes in the history of the planet,” scoffed Rush Limbaugh of Palm Beach. Gov. Rick Scott’s administration went so far as to bar some agencies from even using the term “climate change,” according to the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting (Scott denied this).
Myopic Floridians have plenty of company. President Trump dismissed climate change as a hoax “created by and for the Chinese.” Senator James Inhofe, a Republican of Oklahoma, “disproved” climate change by taking a snowball onto the Senate floor and noting that it was chilly outside; using similarly rigorous scientific methods, he wrote a book about climate change called “The Greatest Hoax.”
Alas, denying climate change doesn’t actually prevent it. North Carolina passed a law in 2012 prohibiting the use of climate science in certain state planning, yet that didn’t intimidate Hurricane Florence last month. And banning the words “climate change” isn’t helping Florida now.
Some folks will say this isn’t the moment for politics. But don’t we have a responsibility to mitigate the next disaster?
Consider that the three warmest years on record are the last three. And that the 10 years of greatest loss of sea ice are all in the last dozen years.
It’s true that we can’t definitively link the damage from any one hurricane (or drought or forest fire) to rising carbon emissions. But think of it as playing with loaded dice: A double six might have occurred anyway, but much less often.
“There is strong consensus among scientists who study hurricanes and climate that warming temperatures should make more intense hurricanes possible,” Kerry Emanuel, a hurricane expert at M.I.T., told me. He said that the probability of Hurricane Florence-magnitude rains in North Carolina has roughly tripled since the middle of the 20th century.
Flooding actually causes more hurricane deaths than wind, and climate change amplifies flooding in two ways. First, it raises the base sea level, on top of which a tidal surge occurs. Second, warmer air holds more moisture — about 10 percent more so far — and that means more rain.
Prof. Michael E. Mann of Penn State told me that Hurricane Michael should be a wake-up call. “As should have Katrina, Irene, Sandy, Harvey, Irma, Florence,” he added wryly. “In each of these storms we can see the impact of climate change: Warmer seas means more energy to intensify these storms, more wind damage, bigger storm surge and more coastal flooding.”
As recently as the early 2000s, there wasn’t much difference between the parties on climate policy, and Senator John McCain campaigned in 2008 as a leader in reducing carbon emissions. In 2009, Donald Trump joined other business executives in backing more action to address climate change.
Yet in the following years Al Gore helped make climate change a Democratic issue, and the Koch brothers helped make climate denial a litmus test of Republican authenticity. Tribalism took over, and climate skepticism became part of the Republican creed. So polls show that today climate denial is far greater in the United States, home to the greatest scientific research in the world, than in just about any other major country.
Trump says he will pull the United States out of the Paris climate accord, and he had nothing substantive to say about a new United Nations report, which has been called a “deafening, piercing smoke alarm” of catastrophic consequences ahead from climate change.
Republicans are correct that all this is uncertain. But in every other context, we try to prevent threats that are uncertain, and it’s irrational for Trump to be obsessed with, say, Iran, when he seems indifferent to the prospect that we are collectively cooking our entire planet.
There are legitimate debates about the best way to reduce carbon emissions, and reason for skepticism that we will succeed. Carbon taxes would have to be very substantial to have a large impact, geoengineering is uncertain, and there will be painful trade-offs ahead.
We also should curb the dysfunctional National Flood Insurance Program, which encourages people to live in low-lying areas. One Mississippi home flooded 34 times in 32 years, resulting in payouts totaling almost 10 times what the home was worth.
But we’re not even having these debates.
I worry that television coverage in the coming days will be dominated by heroes on boats rescuing widows on rooftops. Yes, that human drama is riveting — but it doesn’t address the larger problem.
The way to tackle lung cancer wasn’t to celebrate heroic doctors treating patients in the cancer ward, while ignoring cigarette smoking, but rather to reduce cigarette use.
Climate change may be the most important issue we face, reshaping our children’s world. At some point, those calling “hoax” will fade away and we’ll reach a new consensus about the perils. But by then, it may be too late.

As long as the “head stuck in the wet-clay crowd (and they can’t get their heads out of their own anus let alone wet-clay)” keeps claiming there is no climate change, there will be no changes from the states the GOP controls and the federal government as long as the GOP controls any branch of the federal government.
Vote November 6th. Vote the GOP out. Vote.
And pray that Muller sends Trump to prison for the rest of his life and strips his family of their businesses and wealth.
Also pray that Pence has to resign too.
If the vote doesn’t work, all that’s left is to pray and hope that works so we don’t end up with a bloody Civil War ending with a world we can’t live on.
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Thanks, Lloyd. You are right on. The whole bunch needs to be indicted for their traitorous and unlawful actions, and there are many.
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Agreed.
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It’s less than a month until midterm elections. When do you think Mueller is going to ride in on his white horse?
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Don’t expect any announcements before the midterms. It is a fundamental rule in the federal government that no one other than the President makes announcements that might influence the election. Comedy violated that rule.
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Hmm, I wonder if Muller even has a white horse to ride in on. Maybe it’s black and has wings.
I’d rather see Muller arrive in a battle tank rolling straight at DT, who has no where to run to escape being flattened. I want DT to run. In his shape, if he ran, more like waddle with toilet paper stuck to his shoes, too fast for too long, he’d probably drop dead.
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But to answer your question, if Muller is going to issue even a prelim report (I don’t think he’s done yet. The longer Muller takes and the more of TD’s people that admit guilt, the longer he’ll probably go after the rest of TD’s people all the way to Pence), the report will probably be like five days before the election like Comey did with HC’s e-mail investigation. If there is no report a few days before the election, Muller is after more of TD’s mob and he doesn’t want to miss any of them.
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I do detect some cynicism. The day after the election when he walks into court with 30 indictments of Trump’s mob including Pence ……. . The indictments will make the whole thing public right before he receives the termination notice he was going to get anyway.
As likely as him not indicting anybody in the Trump Family .
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Read these 3 articles to understand how your children and grandchildren are threatened:
Climate report understates threat – Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
https://thebulletin.org/2018/10/climate-report-understates-threat/
A deafening climate alarm, if anyone’s listening – Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
https://thebulletin.org/2018/10/a-deafening-climate-alarm-if-anyones-listening/
IPCC 6 Climate Change Report: We Only Have 12 Years To Fix This | CleanTechnica
Then, call you two Senators and Representative and DEMAND that they take action to begin to mitigate what is already happening: 202-224-3121.
Petitions and emails are almost useless.
Phone calls have some impact.
Whether that impact is enough to offset the legal bribes they get from fossil fuel corporations such as the despicable, evil Koch brothers, is another question.
But your children and grandchildren deserve a chance.
My wife& I have no children, but we are OUTRAGED by the lack of any effective national action to mitigate this rapidly-accelerating Climate Catastrophe which will devastate most of the planet in 12 years or fewer unless we ALL DEMAND ACTION IMMEDIATELY.
We have passed the point of “stopping” Catastrophic Climate Chaos. The best we can hope for is mitigation of its destructive effects, and adaptation to the post-catastrophe climate and planet.
But only if we start IMMEDIATELY.
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Rick Scott is making money off of ‘no climate change’.
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Rick Scott’s investments have included companies opposed to climate change regulations
By Steve Bousquet Jun. 19, 2018
The most vivid snapshot yet of what has made Rick Scott the wealthiest governor in Florida history will be released next month when he must reveal to voters what makes up his net worth.
Required as part of Scott’s U.S. Senate candidacy, the much-anticipated disclosure has some environmental groups and Democrats ready to raise questions about whether Scott’s personal holdings in the energy industry have helped steer Florida’s policy on climate change.
“It seems pretty obvious he’s making decisions that will benefit companies in which he has an interest,” said Susan Glickman of the Southern Alliance for Clean Energy, a group that supported a lawsuit filed against Scott and his administration in April to demand a science-based climate recovery plan and to acknowledge the reality of climate change.
Even the words “climate change” became a flashpoint for Scott’s administration three years ago when a report by the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting gained national attention by revealing that the term vanished from dozens of official documents and that state employees claimed they were forbidden from uttering the phrase…
https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/06/19/rick-scotts-investments-have-included-companies-opposed-to-climate-change-regulations/
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explaining very well what politicians mean when they endlessly argue that “regulations strangle the economy” — simply translate it to “deregulating will help me fill my pockets”
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A few years ago, right after finishing Thomas Piketty’s book “Capital in the 21st Century,” I had a long conversation on a plane with one the of world’s top experts on climate change (a fact I was unaware of until we landed). We discussed Piketty’s ideas about building wealth to the point that it becomes self-perpetuating, often through or including the generational inheritance of property. Later he brought up the idea that no one should buy property in coastal areas less than 10 feet over sea level, especially if their intention is to pass it on to family. According to him, before the end of the century, places at 3-4 above sea level would be flooded and those places a little higher would be affected by inadequate infrastructure; roads, bridges, etc.
It occurred to us that many of those who live in coastal areas and have property will have nothing of value to pass on to the next generation or two. There will be a relocation and population catastrophe that will be exponentially greater than WWII and its aftermath. The effects of climate change will have economic consequences that will not be shared equally by the population. Left unchanged, it will create new, unthinkable scenarios of human conflict. But most of those voting to keep the status quo and obstruct science will have been dead for a while by the time their progeny will be forced to deal with it. They’d rather have a political issue to obfuscate and profit from than make policies that matter to anyone they do consider to be like them.
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GREED! Greed is an infectious sickness.
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and interestingly, even as you write this there are developers pushing endless building along every coastline, knowing full well that many places where they are building will be submerged in thirty years
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Boy sure glad I am on the highest part of Long Island. But in all seriousness Florida and the voters in much of that state will not have to worry about their progeny as the drinking water in much of the state will be contaminated by salt water long before the next century. A thirty year old in much of South Florida will be looking for bottled water before he is 60. A 50year will be walking to Walmart by eighty.
For the knuckle dragging climate deniers the temperature in the Gulf near Florida was 4-8 degrees higher than normal feeding the storm.
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How about a Chain Letter Time Capsule
It would start something like this:
Open in 2050…
Dear Children,Grandchildren and Great-grandchildren of ex-president…, vice president pence, secretary devos, ex governor scott, and all the children whose (white) grandfathers were (not served, were) in Congress in 2016-2018.
You need to know the truth. We are sorry to pass this guilt on to you, but here is what they did:
1. Denied scientific explanations about climate change
2. Eliminated energy, automobile, and other regulations that allowed air to be clear and clean for decades – you would have enjoyed it
3. Inflated the deficit for which you are now paying outrageous taxes
keep adding to the list of how these whining men will go down in history and having to face their grandchildren
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Great idea. Excellent 3 points.
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Allowed the oil and gas industries and manufacturers to pollute the water. I am sorry you can’t drink clear, clean water. Instead, you must drink grain alcohol to quench your thirst. Such irony, considering Earth was the “Water” planet.
Have access to books. We used to have Libraries. I am so sorry that libraries are no more. Libraries were magical places where books and other print and resources were housed for everyone to use. Knowlege was everywhere before censorshop.
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This is enormous issue, as awful as the consequences will be, is only a small part of the problem.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0185809
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And here: https://www.nature.com/news/wildlife-in-decline-earth-s-vertebrates-fall-58-in-past-four-decades-1.20898
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Too bad trump can’t read or think much and neither do those who surround him. I think they are all nuts.
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Yes. If madness means anything, then he is stark, raving mad. I’m quite serious about that. I think that he’s extremely sick.
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Yes, he is indeed sick. He needs a padded and soundproof cell.
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Ah, Florida–land of Rick Scott, Jeb Bush & Mar-a-Lago’s owner.
Wouldn’t have read a report that came out yesterday, I believe, that says we have a decade–a DECADE!–left…
What Ed (10/10 @ 10:22 PM) said.
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Trump and Florida Gov Rick Scott share the belief that climate change is a hoax
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I’ve said it before, multiple times, bu/t it bears repeating:
The Republican Party is a national security risk to the American republic.
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All the deniers profit from the continued burning of their filthy fossil fuels. As muckraker journalist Upton Sinclair once said: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
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Some say you have to sleep in the bed you made. When it comes to global warming (please stop calling it “climate change”) it looks like we are going to collectively cook in the oven we ignited. With 10 billion tons of CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere annually, there is no hope of stopping the slide into hell on Earth. And the “mitigation ship” is pulling up anchor, getting ready to set sail. Trump is like a conspiratorial arsonist who approaches a burning building and tosses some extra gasoline on it.
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And “President” Trump had the balls to call the Democrats, “too dangerous to govern”.
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I feel I must chime in here about the terms “global warming” and “climate change”.
“Global warming” was a term created by and pushed by the media, not climatologists. It was a much…ahh, sexier and provocative term than what the scientists were calling it. It sold papers, improved ratings…it caught people’s interest. Scientists have, with with a few notable exceptions, consistently called it “climate change” for over 50 years.
While the globe IS warming, warming effects don’t show up everywhere. Thus the more accurate and precise use of “climate change”.
I teach this to all my earth science students. Precision in terminology is as important as precision in measurement, and the use of words that have political bias pasted on them reduces their effectiveness when talking about the science.
So, this isn’t a criticism, it’s meant as a way for everyone to expand their understanding of what to call it. For me, when talking about the science its the latter term. When I’m chewing on some conservative Luddite and the discourse is political…global warming fits the bill.
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THANK YOU. We must use precise terms. Your students are fortunate.
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There are few terms in science less precise than “change”. Although you may be technically correct, “climate change” is deceptive and misleading to the average citizen. When the average temperature of Earth’s atmosphere finally increases by +2 or +3, or god forbid +4 degrees Fahrenheit no one in their right mind will find any comfort in the fact that a few regions did not warm up. I teach the chemistry (combustion reactions) and physics (heat transfer) of global warming and refuse to soft peddle it to my students. The evidence is now so overwhelming that we should all stop parsing the terminology, and start ringing the 5-alarm bells: THE GLOBE IS WARMING!!!!!!!!
You made my point with this:
“Global warming” was a term created by and pushed by the media, not climatologists. . . .It sold papers, improved ratings…it caught people’s interest.” YES! That is the point – It woke people up.
From Wikipedea:
An Inconvenient Truth: The Planetary Emergency of Global Warming and What We Can Do About It is a 2006 book by Al Gore released in conjunction with the film An Inconvenient Truth..
Based on Gore’s lecture tour on the topic of global warming this book elaborates upon points offered in the film. The publisher of the text states that the book, “brings together leading-edge research from top scientists around the world; photographs, charts, and other illustrations; and personal anecdotes and observations to document the fast pace and wide scope of global warming.” Michiko Kakutani argues in The New York Times that the book’s “roots as a slide show are very much in evidence. It does not pretend to grapple with climate change with the sort of minute detail and analysis” given by other books on the topic “and yet as a user-friendly introduction to global warming and a succinct summary of many of the central arguments laid out in those other volumes, “An Inconvenient Truth” is lucid, harrowing and bluntly effective.”
More from Wikipedia:
Global warming is the observed century-scale rise in the average temperature of the Earth’s climate system and its related effects, as part of climate change. Multiple lines of scientific evidence show that the climate system is warming. Many of the observed changes since the 1950s are unprecedented in the instrumental temperature record, and in paleoclimate proxy records of climate change over thousands to millions of years. The terms Global warming and climate change are often used interchangeably; a 2008 NASA article defines global warming as “the increase in Earth’s average surface temperature due to rising levels of greenhouse gases”, and climate change as “a long-term change in the Earth’s climate, or of a region on Earth”.
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RageAgainstTheTestocracy: “An Inconvenient Truth” is lucid, harrowing and bluntly effective.”
It should be ‘bluntly effective’. My brother told me that Al Gore perpetrated the biggest hoax on the American people. The weather is controlled by god. Nothing that man does can change what god desires.
If my brother believes this, then no amount of scientific data will mean anything. And, if my brother believes that you can be sure there are others in the same boat. He is waiting for the second coming of Jesus and all who don’t believe in Jesus and the bible will burn for an eternity in hell. He’s worried about me and wanted me to go to the Moody Institute in Chicago and learn about the bible.
Moody is the first person who told about Near Death Experiences. There are over 2,200 cases of people who have died and come back to tell about what they experienced. My brother did not know about that part of Moody’s teachings. He would be shocked to learn what NDE’ers have to say.
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Religious fervor is root of many of our problems. Faith and science are not mutually exclusive if you pay attention to both. Mistaking faith for science is the real problem.
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On a personal note, I dodged a bullet yesterday. I live about sixty miles west of Panama City. We were fortunate to have been on the west side of the storm. I lost a couple of tree limbs. While we faced winds of up to sixty mph., it was nothing compared to what the eastern part of the Panhandle endured. Beautiful, scenic towns like Mexico Beach were wiped out. A storm of this intensity at this point in the hurricane season is highly unusual. The Gulf is super heated due to temperatures in the 90s during October. The normal temperature this time of year for October is the mid 80s. I cannot understand how narrow minded right wing zealots can ignore the truth. We need to face facts!
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My sarcastic reply:
Because they don’t believe in Science and Facts.
These yahoos don’t know basic science:
“For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.”
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I saw the pictures, retired teacher. Holy cow, you indeed were fortunate. So pleased, you were sort of spared. We need you and your articulate voice. Thanks for your comments.
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Video: How does climate change affect us?…Idaho Daily Statesman
More fires. More smoky air. More of what made August in the Treasure Valley so unpleasant. That’s what 2019 could bring to Idaho, thanks in large part…
Aug 02, 2018
Signs of climate change are happening across the world, but as global citizens, we have the option to take action against climate change following some of these helpful tips.
By Kelsey Grey
https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/weather/article215984440.html
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from noaa
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/whats-difference-between-global-warming-and-climate-change
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The Orange One again shows his ‘extreme intelligence’. At least most of the Democrats voted against confirmation of Jeffrey Clark whose expertise is protecting corporations who pollute.
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WaPo:
On Thursday, the Senate confirmed Jeffrey Bossert Clark to run the department’s Environment and Natural Resources Division. Clark was approved by a narrow 52-to-45 margin, with only Democratic Sens. Joe Manchin III of West Virginia and Claire McCaskill of Missouri joining every Republican present to vote to confirm him.
Clark is the latest in a series of officials who have taken top environmental jobs within the Trump administration after previously working on behalf of the sort of businesses often criticized by environmentalists for pollution. They include former coal- and uranium-mining lobbyist Andrew Wheeler, currently in charge of the Environmental Protection Agency, and another ex-energy lobbyist, David Bernhardt, now the No. 2 official at the Interior Department.
Clark will lead the office in charge of bringing cases against companies and individuals when they break either civil and criminal anti-pollution statues. He worked there as a deputy assistant attorney general during the George W. Bush administration.
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