My view of John McCain. He was a man of honor and integrity. He served with honor in a war where Donald Trump took five draft deferments, the last one for “bone spurs” in his foot. I saw the squalid prison where he was tortured for five years in Hanoi. He could have gotten an early release but he turned it down and said he wouldn’t leave unless his colleagues and buddies were also released. He was modest. He had humility. He voted to save Obamacare. He was first to say he made mistakes (choosing Palin was a big one). Unlike Trump, he was not a coward or a liar. Unlike Trump, he was not a narcissist or a bully. I will always remember the campaign event when a supporter said to his face that Obama was an Arab, and he quickly corrected her, defended Obama, and said he was a fine family man. McCain acknowledged that he was not perfect. I did not agree with most of his votes. In a different world, people could have different political views and still drink and laugh and dine together. In the world we have today, he was a giant among weasels. The rest of the Senate looks shrunken compared to him.
Eugene Robinson is one of my favorite columnists at the Washington Post. The Post has the best opinion writers in the nation.
Here is his tribute to John McCain.
Much of the nation will spend the coming days honoring the late Sen. John McCain. The Republican Party, however, will only pretend to do so.
President Trump’s GOP could not care less about the ideals McCain stood for, such as honor, service and community. The party is shamefully molded in Trump’s image now, with his enormous corruption, monumental selfishness and grasping little hands.
This is no exercise in hagiography, which is supposed to be reserved for saints. McCain (R-Ariz.) had many flaws and made big mistakes, not the least of which was loosing Sarah Palin upon the world and letting her bring the politics of idiocy into the mainstream. He was a conservative and a foreign-policy hawk; I am neither. But never for a minute could I, or anyone else, doubt McCain’s commitment as a public servant. He cared more about the nation’s well-being than his own.
How quaint such sentiments sound, 19 months into the Trump era.
The man now living and working in the White House is uniquely different from, and worse than, his predecessors. All of them. Other presidents have been venal, bigoted, corrupt, divisive, ignorant or unstable, but never all of these things at the same time, in such lavish measure.
When Trump used a huggy-kissy interview with “Fox & Friends” last week to rail against “flipping” — the standard practice of prosecutors to offer a member of a crime organization a lighter sentence in exchange for testimony against higher-ups — he didn’t just sound like a mob boss who knows he’s being ratted out. He sounded like a man who would do anything, and I mean anything at all, to keep the investigations by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and federal prosecutors in New York from uncovering secrets whose exposure threatens him and his family.
Editorial page editor Fred Hiatt reflects on the life and legacy of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). (Adriana Usero/The Washington Post)
Trump keeps warning that he “may have to get involved” in the Justice Department, which means he may intervene to shut Mueller down. Why would anyone refuse to believe this is a real threat? Why would anyone refuse to believe that now — with Trump’s personal lawyer singing to the feds, the keepers of his financial and personal secrets talking to prosecutors under grants of immunity, and his former campaign chairman under great pressure to “flip” — the threat is greater than ever?
Republican senators, who will outdo one another in their lavish encomiums to their longtime colleague McCain, have the power to push back hard — yet they refuse to consider legislation to protect the Mueller probe. Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), one of McCain’s close friends, once said that there would be “holy hell” to pay if Trump fired Attorney General Jeff Sessions as a way to assert control over Mueller; now, Graham meekly says that Trump “is entitled to an attorney general he has faith in.”
Graham is wrong. Trump is not entitled to an attorney general who would sabotage a revelatory and productive investigation because Trump fears it threatens his legitimacy. But that is what Trump clearly wants — and there is no indication the Republican majorities in Congress will lift a finger to stop him.
The only congressional Republicans who even occasionally speak out in clear language against Trump’s outrages and excesses are those who have decided to retire, such as Sen. Jeff Flake, who calls himself “the other senator from Arizona,” and Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee.
But Flake and Corker — and the many other Republicans in the Senate and the House who privately acknowledge Trump’s gross unfitness — are afraid to back up their words with deeds. In the closely divided Senate, one courageous Republican could send a message to the president by, for example, crossing the aisle to hold up his judicial nominees. In the House, non-xenophobic Republicans could join with Democrats to pass sensible, comprehensive immigration reform, putting an end to the reign of terror that Trump and Sessions are imposing at the border.
McCain, famously, did take action. Last year, shortly after being diagnosed with brain cancer, he cast the deciding vote against Trump’s slapdash attempt to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Trump is nothing if not vindictive and petty; he issued a brief tweet rather than a lengthier prepared statement about McCain’s death, and on Monday morning the flags at the White House were not at half-staff. Trump lowered them again that afternoon.
We will hear much this week from Republicans in Congress about honoring McCain’s legacy. Anyone who takes those noble words seriously should do everything possible to elect Democratic majorities in the House and Senate in November. As Trump well knows, the GOP no longer has a spine.
Nor any one honorable.
Sigh. I was really hoping you would not go here.
John McCain was a bomber pilot, dropping Napalm on Vietnamese urban civilian areas. He referred to said civilians as “gooks” and never once admitted the war was anything less than noble. In fact, the only problem was that America lost its resolve and that’s why we lost. He has been shown pictures of dead and maimed Vietnamese children, none of which have swayed his opinion.
When he returned to the U.S. he discovered that his wife (who had waited for him taking care of their three young children by herself) had been in a car accident and was disabled and fat, so he did what any decent family man would do – he took up with younger, prettier, blonder women, eventually moving in with his 18 year old fling. He later called his second wife a “c*nt” in public.
Since his war days, McCain has not met a war he did not want to fight. In fact, to know what country we would bomb next, just follow his travel schedule. Do we all remember his famous “Bomb, bomb Iran” rendition?
He was also strongly neoliberal on the domestic front, supporting cuts to Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid. He handed over tribal lands in Arizona for mining which will leave a massive crater.
He opposed making MLK Day a holiday even when it was clearly going to happen. He had a famously foul tongue.
And, perhaps most importantly for those who hate Trump, McCain was among the most important trail blazers for Trump by selecting the unqualified, demagogic Sarah Palin as his VP running mate, thereby normalizing the kinds of racist slurs and dog whistles that Trump thrives on.
So he didn’t like Trump. Great. That absolves him of all else?
Look, I’m happy to go with “don’t speak ill of the dead”, but only if others can refrain from the fake hagiography that glorifies a war criminal.
“So he didn’t like Trump. Great. That absolves him of all else?”
Where in Diane’s post did she say it absolved him of all else?
He was also a crook, one “The Keating Five,” senators who were in bed with those who looted the Savings and Loan industry in throughout the 1980’s. He missed being indicted solely because of his skill at manipulating the media, which never failed to get suckered into his myth of “independence” and “integrity.”
Oh, but he didn’t like Trump, so all is forgiven.
In professional wrestling, the fake “grudges” and “wars” between “The Face” (the Good Guy) and “The Heel” (the Bad Guy) are known as Kayfabe. In other words, it’s a theatrical performance put on for an audience of rubes.
Perhaps we should ponder how much of what passes for politics in the US is actually a form a Kayfabe. For example, a leader of the McResistance, Senator Charles Schumer, is pursuing a deal with Mitch McConnell to approve a group of Trump-nominated federal judge candidates, who will have lifetime tenure, just so McCain can get the Roman Spectacle he wished for.
This follows Shumer, along with multiple other Senate Democrats, also voting in 2017 to give the Nazi/Putin Stooge/Crook/Neurologically impaired – take your pick, since people hop promiscuously from one to another – Trump additional surveillance and espionage powers.
Kayfabe.
Before I wrote this comment, I had to do learn about the Keating Five.
Trump’s supporters are not the only ones that fall for conspiracy theories that refuse to die.
Was McCain judged guilty by a progressive-liberal mob because of his relationship with Keating? Yes.
The Senate Ethics Committee’s investigation began on November 17, 1989.[47] It focused on all five senators and lasted 22 months,[32] with 9 months of active investigation and 7 weeks of hearings.[48] The committee was composed of three Democratic senators, Howell Heflin (chair), David Pryor, and Terry Sanford, and three Republican senators, Warren Rudman (vice chair), Trent Lott, and Jesse Helms.[47] Washington attorney Robert S. Bennett was appointed as special outside counsel to the committee, tasked with conducting the investigation.
I also checked to learn what party held the majority of seats in Congress during the investigation.
The Democrats had a 10 (1989) to 12 (1990) seat majority in the U.S. That means this investigation was started by the Democratic majority just like the investigations into Clinton’s e-mails and Benghazi were Republican-led investigations.
Were they all politically motivated witch hunts to weaken party leaders? Both parties play the same fake smear games. The goal is to cast doubt and drum up a mob that will find the accused guilty no matter what the verdict of the investigations.
“McCain testified that he never asked for anything inappropriate during the meeting, and the Senate ethics committee found that, after regulators said the firm was being investigated not just for insolvency, but on criminal grounds, McCain took no further action on Keating’s behalf. In the end, the committee recommended McCain and Sen. John Glenn be dropped from the probe – although McCain was rebuked by the Senate for using ‘poor judgment’ in his relationship with the millionaire banker.”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/06/fact-check-did-mccain-intervene-on-behalf-of-charles-keating/
If I lived in Arizona, I still wouldn’t vote for a Republican and that includes McCain. In fact, I haven’t voted for a Republican since 1967.
In addition, as I run down McCain’s positions on the issues, I don’t agree with many of his stands. There are fifteen positions on this list. I found four that I agreed with.
Here are the few I agree with:
Issue Positions: For Presidential and Congressional candidates who refuse to provide voters with their positions, Vote Smart has researched their public records to determine their likely responses. These issue positions are from 2016.
No – Inferred Answer
Education: Do you generally support requiring states to adopt federal education standards?
Yes – Inferred Answer
Energy: Do you support government funding for the development of renewable energy (e.g. solar, wind, thermal)?
No – Inferred Answer
Immigration: Do you support requiring immigrants who are unlawfully present to return to their country of origin before they are eligible for citizenship?
No – Inferred Answer
Marriage: Do you support same-sex marriage?
https://votesmart.org/candidate/political-courage-test/53270/john-mccain-iii/#.W4gtR5MnaUk
I would not have voted for him but I still respect him. I wish I could have met him.
Lloyd, you underplay McCain’s efforts to enable the looting and plundering conducted by Charles Keating, costing US taxpayers $3 billion in 1980’early 90’s dollars (in other words, real money). Keating was one of McCain’s earliest political backers, and was convicted on federal and state charge of fraud and embezzlement. He was also an extreme right-wing Republican ideologue whose politics presaged the vicious derangement that’s now the Republican brand.
Oh, and your statement that McCain was the target of a “progressive liberal mob” is preposterous.
McCain and his four colleagues, tried to lean on federal regulators (who actually had some backbone in those days and would pursue banksters) to allow Keating to continue the practices that put him in jail.
McCain only backed off when he was informed at a second meeting (you try getting five US senators to go to bat for you in person, twice!) that the regulators were going to recommend that criminal charges be brought against Keating.
That didn’t show “honor” or “integrity,” it showed basic political common sense and self-preservation.
No, McCain was not among the worst of his debased cohort, but with the complicity of a credulous/obsequious media, he masterfully created a political myth about himself that was far at odds with reality.
Gosh, Michael, amazing how McCain hoaxed everyone in both parties who worked with him daily and knew him well. Apparently only you, Trump, Dienne, and a few others plumbed the depths of his depravity.
Everyone else thought he was a great man.
Since we are all human, all one has to do is dig deep enough to demonize an individual like McCain.
Yesterday I looked at McCain’s record on Vote Smart and discovered his glass, according to the issues he supported that I agreed with, was about 44 percent full.
It’s easy for a person that does not know they are acting like a troll to demonize anyone when the glass is even 56 percent empty. Trump does it all the time. Trump even turns almost full glasses into empty ones for anyone he dislikes.
Trump’s glass is empty. I wonder if Michael Fiorillo or Dienne has the courage to agree with that and add Trump to their list of monsters that sinned because they did not live by Dienne or Fiorillo’s playbooks.
Who was John McCain III:
Awards:
Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross;
1996 Taxpayer’s Hero Award of The Council for Citizens Against Government Waste
Current Car:
Cadillac CTS (C-Series Touring Sedan), a midsize luxury sedan
Father’s Name:
John McCain Jr.
Father’s Occupation:
4 Star Admiral, US Navy
Favorite Actor/Actress:
Marlon Brando, Marilyn Monroe
Favorite Book:
For Whom the Bell Tolls
Favorite Food:
Chocolate ice cream, pizza with pepperoni and onions, baby-back ribs
Favorite Movie:
Viva Zapata, Letters From Iwo Jima, Some Like It Hot
Favorite Musician:
Chuck Berry, Roy Orbison
Favorite TV Shows:
24, Seinfeld
Favorite Type of Music:
Rock and Roll
First Job:
Naval Aviator, United States Navy
Hobbies or Special Talents:
Sports, Hiking, Fishing, Boxing, Basketball, Football, Baseball, History, Barbecue grill chef.
Mother’s Name:
Roberta
Number of Grandchildren:
4
Personal Hero and Why:
Theodore Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater
Pets (include names):
English springer spaniel: Sam; mutt: Coco; 2 turtles: Cuff, Link, cat: Oreo; a ferret, three parakeets and 13 saltwater fish
Publications:
“Faith of My Fathers” (1999); “Worth the Fighting For: A Memoir” (2002); “Why Courage Matters” (2004); and “Character Is Destiny” (2005), “Unfinished Business: Afghanistan, the Middle East and Beyond” — “Defusing the Dangers That Threaten America’s Security” by Harlan Ullman and John S. McCain; “The Reminiscences of Admiral John S. McCain”, Jr., by John McCain
https://votesmart.org/candidate/biography/53270/john-mccain-iii#.W4mIFpMnaUk
And there is so much more to learn about John McCain that refutes anyone that wants to define him, based on their individual values, with a word or two.
Now, I challenge Dienne, Michael and McCain’s other critics to compare McCain to Trump
https://votesmart.org/candidate/biography/15723/donald-trump#.W4mJlZMnaUk
https://votesmart.org/candidate/political-courage-test/15723/donald-trump/#.W4mJ9pMnaUk
Me, Trump and Dienne? Only us three?
But, Diane and Lloyd, what about Putin, as well as my Russian control agent, Dmitri, who ordered me to post these comments?
You certainly shouldn’t forget to mention them, since it’s the default response to any questions or skepticism about the “evidence” that Russia elected Trump.
Putin contributed propaganda to help elect Trump. His efforts to mislead as manyh Americans as possible were not the only factor.
There was also Fox News, Breitbart, Alex Jones and millions of deplorable people that have five key traits in addition to extreme gerrymandering in GOP dominated states. most fundamentalist evangelical White Christians, who have repeated dreams of Armageddon and their promised spot in heaven while all of us sinners that don’t think like them are sent to hell by their god Trump.
Oh, and lest I forget, the Kochtopus did its job too and for that help, Trump selected Pence, an ALEC minion for his VP, and filled many of the positions on his cabinet with members of ALEC like Ditsy Betsy DeVos.
Authoritarian Personality Syndrome
Social dominance orientation
Prejudice
Intergrlup contact
Relative deprivation
All explained in detail at:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201712/analysis-trump-supporters-has-identified-5-key-traits
And that is how the attempt to subvert the US Constitution and give birth to a theocratic kleptocracy was launched.
Michael,
The Watergate burglars did not “elect” Richard Nixon, whose victory over McGovern didn’t need any help.
According to your rationale, because all of Nixon’s lawbreaking did not “elect” Nixon over McGovern, there should have been no investigation into his campaign’s illegal dealings with people who wanted them to win.
And most people think that while the Watergate burglars did not ELECT Nixon, that didn’t mean that people should have shut up and let Nixon do anything he wanted.
And yet, that seems to be your rationale for attacking anyone who believes that conspiring with another country to break the law is not something that we just let a president do because “Russia didn’t elect Trump and the Watergate burglars didn’t elect Nixon”.
It’s funny, you seem to think poor Nixon got shafted as much as you believe poor Trump is getting.
So many self-comforting delusions and self-deceptions, so little time…
Dienne, during the tributes to McCain, I suddenly remembered my attitude toward him early in the ’07-’08 campaign, before I knew anything about Obama, & before he selected Palin as running-mate. I’d always leaned a bit in his direction as a not-horrible Republican, so I was paying attention to his every statement. I remember thinking, oh no he would never do: he’s irascible, & could hit the red button in a fit of pique. In retrospect, I’m sure I was wrong about that, & never envisioned we’d someday have a volatile rogue-cannon in office who actually does meet that description.
The demise of McCain’s marriage was not, he returned home to find a fat disabled wife & took up w/an 18-y.o. The couple went to phys therapy together & added 6 more yrs to the 2 they had before VN. Toward the end of the marriage he was away in DC a lot, carousing & womanizing; got serious w/ 25-y.o. Cindy Hensley & divorced/remarried w/n 4 mos of meeting her. He blamed the divorce on his selfishness & immaturity, calling it his worst moral failing; Carol McCain called it ‘turning 40 & wanting to be 25 again’. Divorce uncontested; settlement included full custody, alimony, child support, houses in VA & FL, college tuition for children, lifelong medical treatment for ex-wife. In this as in other things [like the public, hotheaded c-word tirade], McCain combined all-too-human, occasionally deplorable personal behavior and dutiful principles.
McCain never claimed to be Perfect or blameless. He often called attention to his imperfections. He was never a bully or a braggart. Unlike some others who will go nameless, who are tweeting their envy.
Oh, forgot. First, the incident where he corrected the woman who called Obama an Arab. Stop and think about that for a minute. “No, ma’am, he’s a decent family man.” So, what, Arabs cannot be decent family men? Why did he not confront her on the use of “Arab” as a slur?
Second, that was one incident. There were dozens of incidents at his rallies in which his followers yelled all kinds of horrible things about Obama and threatened his life. That was the only time McCain confronted any such outbursts.
Read the full quote. He said about Obama that he was a citizen, a family man, and not an Arab.
Trump would have joined in insulting his opponent.
So if the woman had said “I don’t trust Obama because I heard he’s a Jew” and McCain had answered exactly the same, you’d feel the same way about his response?
Dienne, I’m sorry that you think JOHN McCain is a war criminal and a despicable man. I don’t.
I can’t get into McCain’s brain or his inner soul but I don’t think he meant to put down or demean Arabs. He said that Obama was not an Arab. Full stop and a fact. Then he went on to make other positive statements about Obama, he’s a decent man, etc. I’m giving McCain the benefit of the doubt that he didn’t mean to insult Arabs, it just appears to be that way. He had to make a response to the woman on the spot and off the cuff and so perhaps it come off the wrong way. I also have many misgivings about McCain, a very conservative GOPer who pretty much went along with the whole GOP agenda over the decades and he was a war monger. I do give the man credit for surviving 5 years of horrific physical and psychological torture.
I remember the incident when it happened. No one thought McCain insulted Arabs. They thought he defended Obama.
Whoops, meant to say that “he went on to make positive statements Obama.” That took character and courage.
Ack, forgot more. One of the last pieces of legislation to be passed in his lifetime (which he fully supported) granted Trump a massive increase in his military budget and expanded powers under the AUMF. The bill is named for McCain.
Some kind of #Resistance.
Matt Taibbi, certainly no fan of Trump, on McCain: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/mccain-support-war-716416/
This was an interesting read.
Was it wrong for the United States to get involved in WW II? Are FDR and Truman also evil men who went to war to kill as many civilians as possible? Why did the US get involved in WW II when we should have just let Hitler and Churchill fight it out and if Hitler won, well that’s none of our business. Was FDR just killing people to help the defense industry?
How evil is LBJ? Were all Lyndon Johnson’s decisions based on his greedy need to help the military industrial complex napalm as many children as possible? Is LBJ a terrible man who is far worse than Donald Trump?
And who is worse than Abraham Lincoln, condoning Sherman’s March to the Sea?
Is one not allowed to praise FDR, Truman,LBJ and Lincoln for the good things they did because they also did things in wartime that killed many people?
So you have to go all the way back to WWII to find a defensible war. Telling. Yet both parties have consistently waged and supported wars of choice and aggression since then. This is what’s normal in Washington – ordering our young men and women in uniform to commit the routine slaughter of thousands or even millions of people across the globe (mostly brown people). Wars in which we and our allies bomb wedding parties, funerals, hospitals, schools, school buses, marketplaces, rescuers, medics, etc., etc. But yet we can’t “normalize” Trump’s obscenities and oafishness because that would be, well, I dunno, unseemly. McCain was “honorable” and a “hero” because he killed with aplomb.
First of all, I referenced Vietnam and LBJ, not just WW 2.
I really don’t care about Trump’s “oafishness” and “obscenities”. That’s a right wing talking point.
I care about the fact that Trump uses demagoguery and lies to convince his followers that those who oppose him are evil. I care about the fact that Trump uses the fascist playbook to look for scapegoats that his racist and xenophobic followers like. I care about the fact that Trump sees nothing wrong with firing the FBI director for not following his demand that he stop investigating his campaign’s ties to Russia. I care about the fact that Trump refuses to release his tax returns but his sons have publicly stated that their company is propped up by Russian money and we know Americans banks stopped lending after getting screwed too many times, just like the small subcontractors who worked for Trump and the people who believed him when he promised them Trump U. would tell them how to get rich.
I care about the fact that there is absolutely no one in the entire Republican Congress who will stand up to the man who has done all the above and who says that anyone who investigates him is a traitorous scum, including Robert Mueller.
No one said McCain was “honorable” because he “killed with aplomb”. Do you have reading comprehension issues?
McCain was “honorable” because he had a chance to use his connections to leave his POW camp and chose not to. He was honorable because he served instead of using his connections to remain safe in the US.
Why do you keep insisting that the only thing wrong with Donald Trump is his “oafishness” and “obscenities”? If your position is that is the only thing wrong with Donald Trump then I certainly understand why you prefer to spend your time undermining all Democrats and trying to help normalize Trump.
Thank you, Diane. When Robinson is at his best, as here, there’s no one better.
My first thought about McCain’s legislative legacy is that he voted the wrong way on everything in 2017 except Obamacare, and his famous thumbs-down then may have been more to stick it to T***p than for any other reason. My second thought about McCain’s legislative legacy is that McCain-Feingold begins with McCain. Going forward, I’ll try to think of the second thought first and the first thought second, or not at all.
McCain had a 36 year legislative career. His signature issue was campaign finance. His failure resulted in American oligarchy. He voted to confirm the justices that decided Citizens United.
His fellow POW’s who got to go home when he refused to be moved to the front of the line, benefitted from his service. Rhetorically, who else did, except Meghan?
How many of his GOP colleagues did he convince to vote against repeal of ACA?
McCain’s comment about the ugliness of Chelsea Clinton was who he was. His selection of Sarah Palin was who he was.
“his famous thumbs-down then may have been more to stick it to T***p than for any other reason.”
OTOH his viewpoint may have been chastened by a year of severe illness & invoices for medical treatment.
Thanks for replying. Last night I was reminded that the thumbs-down came less than two weeks after the diagnosis.
Thanks for the correction. I guess my point would be the same, even if he were merely a few weeks into it [hospitalization for blood clot removal & a week of tests, devastating diagnosis, plus whatever treatments were started in the subsequent two weeks]. Such events change a person’s outlook, perhaps especially one whose history had been marked by nearly superhuman survival of longterm torture. Just conjecture of course. I do not see him as someone who would throw aside a strongly-held belief just to put it to Trump. Though I expect he took great pleasure in doing so.
I completely agree.
Given the health care insurance members of Congress receive (but which they refuse to provide to their fellow Americans), I don’t think McCain had too many invoices to worry about.
McCain didn’t need Congressional health insurance. He was very very wealthy.
That’s not really the point, Diane, and I think you know that.
Before you gush all over with how wonderful John McCain was, you should keep in mind, that he was a staunch supporter of school choice/ESAs. He pioneered securing additional educational choices for Native American children. see
https://azcharters.org/senator-mccain-explains-why-everyone-should-support-charter-schools-and-school-choice/
https://www.wmicentral.com/news/local_news/bill-passes-first-vote-to-bring-school-choice-to-native/article_94a1ecfc-793d-11e6-a8ed-2bd2737fe900.html
I honor him as a brave man.
He knew nothing about education. His opinions about schools are meaningless to me. He relied on ideologues.
I wonder what one or more of Trump’s advisors had to tell him to lower the flag to half mast the 2nd time. How many times did they have to praise Trump for being perfect and powerful so he’d do it?
Did his wife and daughter intervene like I read they tried to do over the children being torn from their parents that were seeking asylum in the US and had arrived at the border?
In one sense we owe Trump a debt of gratitude. The Republican party, for the most part, has for the better part of 50 years been a bunch of greedy low life bigots. With little integrity and willing to stir up a racist base to maintain power. Trump has exposed them for all to see.
There are a lot of arguments that people can have about John McCain. But I don’t think anyone can argue about his bravery. And on that point alone, he stood in stunning contrast with our President.
Ferp,
I am with you.
On Trump: This is a good summary.
“Other presidents have been venal, bigoted, corrupt, divisive, ignorant or unstable, but never all of these things at the same time, in such lavish measure.”
Thank you, FLERP. The sniping at this brave man on this blog embarrasses me.
There will be a time and place for sniping and vilifying, especially with the uncovering of history of which we are not now aware. But now is neither the time or place. A man’s life is not a policy issue.
The GOP doesn’t just lack a spine. They relish unfairness. Right wing GWU Professor and pundit, Jonathan Turley, posted his support for air pollution remedies citing research establishing a link with reduction in cognitive ability. But, according to Turley, the same richest 0.1% who oppose efforts to improve the climate should have unlimited influence. Turley opposes limits on campaign spending and he warns that crowd sourcing i.e. pooling the money of the 99% to achieve their agenda, is suspect. Republicans have perfected double standards and hypocrisy.
Rather off-topic I guess, but here’s a dispatch from the #Resistance: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-democrats-trump-federal-judges_us_5b86c0eee4b0cf7b00313783?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004
Interesting article. I noticed this quote: ” It would have taken only one Democratic senator to say “no” to letting the nominees through this week, but none did.”
Will you be donating to the “defeat Sen. Elizabeth Warren” PAC? Just kidding — they definitely don’t need your money! Plenty of very rich people will spend a lot of money to convince voters that she is a sell out based on this vote and needs to go — even if that means a right wing Trump-supporting Senator takes her place. Especially if it means a right wing Trump-supporting Senator takes her place!
Of course, if the Democrats controlled the Senate they wouldn’t have to make these compromises. Or if Trump had not won all of those judgeships would be filled by Hillary Clinton instead of Trump. But then again, those Clintons did appoint Ruth Bader Ginsberg, so can’t trust ’em.
Planning His Funeral, McCain Got the Last Word Against Trump
…President Trump is predicted to have retreated to Camp David this weekend, the place White Home aides hope he’ll comprise his anger on the consideration being lavished on Mr. McCain, even in demise.
However additionally they acknowledged what has been plain to only about everybody for the reason that two males repeatedly clashed, typically in essentially the most private methods, in recent times: Mr. McCain had little respect for the president.
As such, it was maybe inevitable, they conceded, celebration of Mr. McCain’s worldview could be seen as a critique of the president’s.
“Trump has been a catalyst for him to talk extra strongly and extra vigorously in regards to the want for these issues that Trump doesn’t do,” stated John F. Lehman Jr., who served as secretary of the Navy beneath President Ronald Reagan…
Link: https://bylifetoday.com/2018/08/30/politics/planning-his-funeral-mccain-got-the-last-word-against-trump/
The GOP is still drooling at the thought of getting rid of ACA. They now are thinking of one more attack after McCain’s Senate replacement is secured. Why is it acceptable to constantly want to undo Obamacare while replacing it with nothing? It is a crime that healthcare is so expensive and that 28.3 million have nothing. Medicare for All!!!
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Health: Fewer Americans lack insurance, but the gap remains wide, especially in some states Trump won in 2016 (Bloomberg). The number of uninsured declined to 28.3 million in the first quarter this year, down from 29.3 last year -– and 48.6 million in 2010, the year the Affordable Care Act was signed into law, according to data from the Department of Health and Human Services.
And now, John Sidney McCain, III is a corpse in a morgue awaiting his state burial. It is as it should be, perhaps for the first time in his entire life. ‘Child of the State, Man of War’ https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/08/karen-kwiatkowski/child-of-the-state-man-of-war/
McCain has lately said and done very honorable things, publicly. Period.
Trump is right now unraveling and spiraling beyond where even he has been before. He is a constitutional crisis.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/08/30/politics/trump-lester-holt-nbc/index.html
Akademos: Trump is loosing it. He is getting more and more worried and has to lie more and more often.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-45357329
Sometimes the obvious is reported. Sometimes we don’t reflect on the obvious enough. Trump has shown great disdain for what he sees as a lack of beauty, wealth, intelligence or stature, literal or figurative (success, popularity). What can he think of his base? What does he really think of the members of the GOP? And they all better start looking realistically at what this man really is and what is happening to him while failing to manage this country.
https://www.google.com/amp/nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/amp/2018/08/coastal-snob-trump-mocks-sessions-alabama-accent-degree.html
This is America, racism is all around us and will be for decades. We are all seriously flawed and no one should be walking around as if they are Jesus Christ. We would want to be God like but we as humans are seriously damaged, from the Catholic churches who molested us, to the colleges who molested us and the emotional sickness just goes on its difficult to be a normal human being who actually cares about humanity..
Thousands of people fought in Viet Nam and were never the same when they returned back to our shores. The people welcoming them back home were disturbed also so lets not go on about this war when we the people are doing the same thing with our troops returning home from the latest 17 year war.
Trump is currently the anointed racist followed by educators who knew the pro ed reformers were racist and did nothing to stop the destruction of minority children,I
Trump is the leader of a very disturbed group who have reaped all the benefits of being white in America and privileged. We need to go out register and vote, in order to stop the wave of madness.
Everyone has an opinion about Mr. McCain but few of us could survive years in a prison camp and we need to respect people like Nelson Mandela or the people who were in the concentration camps who were able to pick up their lives once they were released/
Going to Studio 54 shows the small mind that one individual has.
“I AM Jesus Christ”
I am Jesus Christ
Though no one will believe
Although I am quite nice
They claim I do deceive
I walk across the pond
And doubters say I cheat
And ere I can respond
“A cheater” they repeat
I turn the beer to wine
And frat boys all complain
They say “That piss was fine”
And “wine, it leaves a stain”
I heal the blind and sick
But everyones a doubter
They say “it’s just a trick”
And turn the TV louder
All are Republican states. It figures…fear and hatred are the marks of the GOP.
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From VICE News: 16 states want to be able to fire employees for being transgender
Over a dozen states filed a brief Friday asking the Supreme Court to make it legal to fire people for being transgender.
The amicus brief, which was signed by 16 states, asks the Court to hear and reverse a case decided in March by the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, which ruled in favor of a transgender woman who was fired from her job at a funeral home after she began transitioning from a man to a woman. The Sixth Circuit held that her termination violated Title VII’s protections on the basis of sex.
The amicus brief was filed by the Attorneys General in Nebraska, Alabama, Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, West Virginia, and Wyoming, and joined by Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin, Maine Gov. Paul LePage, and Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant. All are Republican…
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/43p9d3/16-states-want-to-be-able-to-fire-employees-for-being-transgender
I LOVE good news! Trump is freaking out and blasting everything. Only HE can be trusted. The big question is, “What will he do as he becomes more unhinged?”
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Trump’s disapproval rating hits a high point, while clear majorities back Mueller and Sessions, poll finds..WaPo
A Washington Post-ABC News poll shows President Trump’s disapproval rating at 60 percent, with the public on guard against his efforts to influence the Justice Department and special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s wide-ranging probe.
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‘Totally dishonest’: Trump asserts only he can be trusted over opponents and ‘fake news’..WaPo
The president and his supporters are under siege, Trump’s tweets imply, from pernicious forces conspiring against them.
What will Trump do as he becomes more unhinged?
Look at what Hitler did. Near the end, while Germany still had a chance to save itself as a country, Hitler’s generals urged him to end the war before it was too late with a final crushing defeat.
Hitler went into a lunatic, saliva-lying rage and refused. He said Germany had failed him and every German deserved to suffer because of that failure.
More ‘dishonest reporting and smear stories” from news outlets that aren’t Fox. Dang, our economy is a success. I imagine raising the rents of poor people is contributing to this improvement. Cutting people off Medicaid is helping. Having to choose between food and medical help doesn’t exist in Trump and Gingrich’s mind. Everything would be so much better if we all watched Fox and realized that huge economic improvements have arrived because of Trump.
This just came from the WH.
“The Trump administration’s continued attention to economic matters – despite the liberal media’s daily efforts to get him and his team off-balance through dishonest reporting and smear stories – is paying off,” former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich writes in Fox News. “The average American sees the economy getting better and better. And the average American increasingly thinks the success is due to President Trump.”
Trump is causing more pain and difficulties for people than can be imagined. He is a horrible person with no compassion or thinking. He reacts on impulse and his impulses are vulgar.
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Snopes: Citizenship limbo. Earlier this week, the Washington Post reported on a frightening new immigration-related trend, namely the stripping of passports from U.S. citizens of Mexican descent despite their having birth records showing they were born in the United States. The report said hundreds, possibly thousands, of persons have been affected, leaving them in a state of legal limbo.
The U.S. State Department denies the allegation, calling it a “political cheap shot.”
But Snopes.com’s Bethania Palma has spoken to immigration attorneys who confirmed they’ve experienced an uptick in cases of citizens’ passports being flagged, denied, or revoked on suspicions that their birth certificates are fraudulent.
The American Civil Liberties Union calls it “one more inhumane act in a series of unlawful actions.”
Spare me. Trump’s thinking is delusional. If we’re poor it’s because of his and the GOP’s stupid tax cuts.
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Snopes: Impeachment prophecy. Did President Trump say “everybody would be very poor” if he were impeached? The chief executive asserted that if the country were deprived of his thinking, markets would crash and everyone would be poor as a result. (True)
Go Bette Midler!!!! I always liked her.
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Trump tells a rally tonight, “My mother made the best turkey.” I doubt the woman ever cooked a turkey in her life, unless he means in her uterus.
10:17 PM – Aug 22, 2018
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Trump is rolling back environmental rules for coal plants. So rather soon, those are the only kind of plants we’ll have left.
11:03 AM – Aug 21, 2018
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My fellow Americans: Rudy Giuliani is right: truth isn’t truth. And climate change isn’t real,
and Donald Trump isn’t president! Feels better already,
doesn’t it?
9:04 AM – Aug 21, 2018
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#trump cancelled military parade because it cost too much! He musta thought it would be free, because Kim Jung Ill put on a such great show. Well, Kim uses slave labor! But believe me, if #trump could use slave labor, he would!!!
11:17 AM – Aug 18, 2018
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Washington Post says in his 1st year as Prez, Trump made 2,140 false claims & this year he’s more than doubled that in just 6 months. In a way it’s a miracle. Nobody’s ever seen that much bullshit come out of a horse’s ass.
11:16 AM – Aug 4, 2018
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg says she’d like to work 5 more years until she turns 90. I admire her confidence, but as Trump gets more unhinged, I’m not sure any of us will be alive in 5 years!
Love Bette Miller! It was a privilege to see her in “Hello, Dolly”
For “Seinfeld” aficionadas and aficionados only: Bette Midler is so freaking talented!
We owe McCain for his thumbs down at preventing the destruction of Obamacare. There are many things he did which weren’t very good but a lot is said about his character when both sides of the isle came to support him. [Many will be cheering when Trump’s time comes.]
Quote: “It tells you something when simply extolling the virtues of America can seem like a criticism of its president.”
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The McCain funeral offered a promise of deliverance at a dark moment in American history
Max Boot, The Washington Post Published 12:00 pm CDT, Sunday, September 2, 2018
…Our big advantage – what sets us apart from countries that have succumbed to authoritarianism in the past – is that the American body politic is relatively healthy. We have a 229-year-old tradition of the rule of law, the economy is strong, and robust checks and balances continue to operate. The most notable check and balance is, of course, special counsel Robert Mueller III, who continues quietly racking up indictments and convictions.
…the moving funeral of Sen. John McCain, R.-Ariz., at Washington National Cathedral. The entire political world, Democrat and Republican alike, came together to honor an American hero. Two former presidents spoke; a third sat in the front row. Conspicuously absent was the current president. He was not welcome – and not missed…
This represented a collective rejection by America’s entire political class of the dishonorable, dishonest and divisive politics represented by Trump – and a yearning for the ennobling and principled leadership represented by McCain. When everyone stood near the end of the service and we all sang the final stanza of “America the Beautiful” (“O beautiful for patriot dream …”), I am sure I was not alone in seeing it as a symbolic rejection of the ugliness of the Trump years. Maybe I was imagining things, but I think not. It tells you something when simply extolling the virtues of America can seem like a criticism of its president.
I have come to feel pessimistic lately about the future of America – demoralized because so many of my fellow citizens have endorsed a demagogue who threatens our democracy. But the McCain funeral offered a welcome moment of hope and grace – a promise of deliverance – at a dark time in our nation’s history. It affirmed what McCain himself said in his farewell statement when he affirmed his “heartfelt faith in Americans.” “Do not despair of our present difficulties but believe always in the promise and greatness of America, because nothing is inevitable here,” McCain counseled. “Americans never quit. We never surrender. We never hide from history. We make history.”
https://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/article/The-McCain-funeral-offered-a-promise-of-13200192.php?utm_campaign=email-desktop&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social