Trump stood by Putin and agreed with Putin while attacking the FBI. Putin offered to help Mueller. This is surreal.
The Washington Post editorial said:
THE ENDURING image of the U.S.-Russia summit in Helsinki on Monday will be that of President Trump standing next to Vladimir Putin and suggesting he found Mr. Putin’s “powerful” denial at least as persuasive as the U.S. intelligence community’s unanimous finding that Russia intervened in the 2016 election. Coupled with another groundless attack on the FBI and an apparent endorsement of a patently disingenuous offer by Mr. Putin to collaborate with the investigation of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, Mr. Trump appeared to align himself with the Kremlin against American law enforcement before the Russian ruler and a global audience.
Mr. Trump had said he would raise the issue of Russia’s interference in the election with Mr. Putin, but the result was a series of statements that could have been scripted by Moscow. Mr. Trump said that, while Daniel Coats, the United States’ director of national intelligence, had told him Russia was responsible for hacking into the server of the Democratic National Committee, “I don’t see any reason why it would be.” He referred to various discredited conspiracy theories about the hack while lambasting the FBI. When offered an open-ended opportunity to cite any behavior by Russia that had contributed to poor relations, the president sidestepped, saying “I hold both countries responsible.” As Mr. Trump apparently sees it, Russia’s invasions of Ukraine and Georgia, war crimes in Syria, poison attack in Britain and the shooting down of a Malaysian civilian airliner over Ukraine are morally equivalent to the policies pursued by previous U.S. administrations.
It’s not yet known what Mr. Trump and Mr. Putin discussed in their private meeting, or whether they reached any tangible agreements. Both leaders suggested there had been accord on securing Israel’s border with Syria, and on providing humanitarian aid to Syrian refugees, though they offered no details. Even if he obtained nothing concrete from Mr. Trump, Mr. Putin scored a symbolic triumph by appearing to stand as an equal with the U.S. president in a relationship with “special responsibility for maintaining international security,” as he put it.
While Mr. Trump’s insistence on granting Mr. Putin that status was misguided, it paled beside his betrayal of the FBI and his own senior intelligence officials. Incredibly, Mr. Trump appeared to endorse a cynical suggestion by Mr. Putin that Mr. Mueller’s investigators be granted interviews with a dozen Russian intelligence officers indicted in the DNC hack in exchange for Russian access to associates of William Browder, a financier whose exposure of high-level corruption and human rights crimes in Moscow led to the adoption by Congress of the Magnitsky Act, which imposed sanctions on those responsible. Mr. Putin’s citation of bogus Russian charges against Mr. Browder was matched by Mr. Trump’s garbled reference to “the Pakistani gentleman” who was falsely alleged by right-wing conspiracy theorists to be behind the leak of DNC emails.
In Helsinki, Mr. Trump again insisted “there was no collusion” with Russia. Yet in refusing to acknowledge the plain facts about Russia’s behavior, while trashing his own country’s justice system, Mr. Trump in fact was openly colluding with the criminal leader of a hostile power.

Definition of Collusion
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When a Colluder stands by a Colludee and says
“There’s No Collusion”
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Jon, excellent.
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Excellent point.
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Give that man a cee-gar!
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It’s obvious to me that Putin has discovered the weaknesses that exist in Constitution Democracies/Republics where one man, like Putin, does not hold all the power and he is exploiting those weaknesses to destroy alliances and collapse the elected governments of those countries in the EU, the UK and the US.
Trump, a malignant narcissist, and a psychopath, who has no loyalty to anyone, is a crucial element in that exploitation. When Trump’s repeated business failures that cost U.S. banks at least a billion dollars through Trump’s bankruptcies caused those banks to stop loaning Trump money, Trump decided one day he would get even with those US banks.
Trump has said before, he loves to get even with anyone or anything that doesn’t do what he wants. The United States is Trump’s target to destroy and Putin knows this explaining why Russia mob bosses bailed Trump out through real estate money laundering when US banks stopped loaning him money after several very expensive business failure so the mentally, unstable man-child holds a grudge against the United States while thinking he owes the Russians who have continued to prop up his ego and lifestyle.
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“Incredibly, Mr. Trump appeared to endorse a cynical suggestion by Mr. Putin that Mr. Mueller’s investigators be granted interviews with a dozen Russian intelligence officers indicted in the DNC hack in exchange for Russian access to associates of William Browder….”
What’s so incredible about that? Why is Browder considered some kind of saint? He’s a serial tax evader. He even gave up his U.S. citizenship to avoid paying U.S. taxes. His issues with the Russian government stem largely from his unwillingness to pay Russian taxes, even though taxes in Russia are significantly lower than U.S. taxes. But because he’s said bad things about PUTIN! we wipe all of that aside and assume he’s pure and the newfall’n snow and completely above reproahch.
If ever there’s someone I need to murder, I’ll just go ahead and do it and say PUTIN! made me do it. As long as I say enough mean things about PUTIN! and/or Trump, I’ll be rehabilitated in no time. Probably get a gig on MSDNC.
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Stupid logic, not the real issue at all
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Why are you projecting something that didn’t happen?
No one is saying Browder is a saint or pure or completely above reproach.
Putin’s offer to “help” Mueller in exchange for access to Browder is absurd and should be treated as such!
The criminal justice system does not work the same in Russia as it does in the US. People on the good side of Putin can do what they want and people on the bad side mysteriously die in prison or get tossed off roofs or get poisoned. We aren’t at that point yet in the US, but no doubt Trump would like us to get there.
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Every time I read your comments on this topic I am reminded of the aphorism, “It’s better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” If today didn’t make you finally see the light, there is absolutely no hope for you. As your president* would say, Sad!
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Bingo
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Typical. Every time I get Bingo I don’t win a doggone thing.
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Why are you so eager to defend Putin?
He is a billionaire, a serial killer, a tyrant. What part of his behavior do you find acceptable?
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If you are defending the indefensible and defending treason, then what does that make you?
It’s a simple answer…
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I call it treason plain and simple. Selling us out to a foreign power that interferes in our election and who knows what else. Not having consequences for this behavior is like inviting them to do it again or continue doing it. To put the word of a murderous dictator over your own intelligence is shocking. Impeachment this asshole
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By the way, what we now know publicly is probably little of what’s really happening. By that I mean if Russia meddled in our election, there’s other systems they have breached or are trying to get in. SEC?
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Yes, I agree that we, the public, don’t know much, but the US intelligence community knows a lot and Muller knows what they know and probably more.
If all of the US intelligence agencies agree that Russia meddled in a US election and favored Trump, then that is an allegation to trust.
“Israeli Intelligence Firm’s Election-Meddling Analysis Comes Under Mueller’s Scrutiny”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/israeli-intelligence-firms-election-meddling-analysis-comes-under-muellers-scrutiny-1527288767
U.S. Senate Panel Backs Intelligence Agencies on Russia-Trump Conclusions
https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/US-Senate-panel-backs-intelligence-agencies-on-Russia-Trump-conclusions-561489
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“Meddling” is too kind a term. The right word is “attacked our electoral system and sabotaged it.”
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I would like to associate myself with these remarks.
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I just watched Rand Paul try to dance around 45’s unbelievable performance today on CNN. He tried to make it seem like Trump is trying to keep the “lines of communication” open with Russia. Nobody in his right mind will buy this sorry attempt at spin.
Maybe the Democrats should take a page from the Republican handbook and go low for a change. They should get the term “traitor Trump” which has an alliterative quality out into the public consciousness, and keep it going into the midterms. Let’s flip the House and Senate.
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Bingo
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Ditto.
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Seeing Rand Paul try to excuse this behavior by Trump made me physically ill. Kentucky–vote this clown out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Agreed. Ron Paul is a disgrace.
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Agreed.
With all due respect to First Lady Obama (that sounds so good)… it’s time to at least throw a Bill Russell elbow and go low (true story and excellent West Wing episode).
When do the Democrats come out swinging – I mean swinging with rants the way any school kids should confront their bullies. Today is an easy one – but what about alllllllll the other stuff. It’s time.
Something has to win over the angry voters with angry Democrats screaming and tweeting and confronting the new autocracy, big money, government controlling DC
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Will this become known as the Helsinki betrayal?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement
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Good point. My only disagreement is that however misguided Neville Chamberlain was, his intentions were noble. He was just plain wrong. Even Winston Churchill acknowledged this. This president* does not have a conception of noble ethics or responsibility for others. The United States and its Constitution are negotiable commodities for his personal gain and fragile ego.
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GregB,
Trump returned home and said he had strengthened and united NATO and had improved relations with Russia. He said his summit with Putin was “even better” than his great accomplishments at NATO.
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agreed – which makes the betrayal deliberate and the label appropriate #HelsinkiBetrayal
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When Fox news says things against Trump you can be sure he pulled a bad one.
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‘’Treasonous’ And ‘Disgraceful’: Critics Slam Trump’s Performance At Putin Summit
Article: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-putin-summit-reactions_us_5b4cc234e4b022fdcc5c0304
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There’s a Hot Wind 🔥💨 Blowing from the GOP Tonight — But it’ll All Blow Over by the Dawn’s Early Light 🌈🌞
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Former CIA Director John Brennan said Monday, July 16, that Trump’s comments during his press conference with Vladimir Putin was treasonous. Brennan tweeted: “Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of ‘high crimes & misdemeanors’. It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???” [18 U.S. Code § 2381 defines Treason: “Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States…adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort…is guilty of treason…”]
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Whoever finds what Putin has on trump will break the story. So many dealings with Russians, russian money, it could be anything but it’s something. Heck, trump could be a real life agent for Putin bought long ago to save his sorry businesses, we just don’t know but we need to.
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Very odd. Putin has a hold on Trump. We won’t know what it is until his tax returns are released. Knowing Trump’s values, it must be money. How many billions have Putin and his oligarchs invested in Trump’s failing business?
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How much has Trump made from laundring Russian money in the US through realestate deals?
The Washington Post reported Sunday that the Trump Organization had spent more than $400 million in cash acquiring properties, often without taking on any debt at all, beginning in 2006.
https://slate.com/business/2018/05/were-donald-trumps-cash-real-estate-purchases-related-to-money-laundering.html
Possible money laundering alleged in sales of Trump properties: US Rep Schiff
https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/real-estate/possible-money-laundering-alleged-in-sales-of-trump-properties-us-rep-schiff
Bannon’s big reveal in new Trump book is ‘all about money laundering’
This is all about money laundering,” Wolff quotes Bannon saying. “Their path to [expletive] Trump goes right through Paul Manafort, Don Jr. and Jared Kushner.” For good measure he added, “It’s as plain as a hair on your face.”
“It goes through Deutsche Bank and all the Kushner stuff,” Bannon adds. “The Kushner stuff is greasy. They’re going to go right through that.” (He used a nastier word than “stuff,” but let’s keep things family-friendly around here.)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-trump-money-laundering-kushner-20180105-story.html
How money laundering works in real estate
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/01/04/how-money-laundering-works-in-real-estate/?utm_term=.58b951dcb292
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This is logic, for sure. Rational observers can come to no other conclusion. Yet that line of thinking doesn’t quite do it for me. If I were Trump, and a rational actor– even if Putin held my entire fortune in hock, as well as evidence of explicit, treasonous quid pro quo– I would understand that my collusion had to be masked by discretion to avoid serious political repercussions on the home front (e.g., losing both houses in November, impeachment, infamous legacy). Even if he were my “godfather,” I’d know Putin would expect and countenance a degree of face-saving pushback on the global stage, particularly after I’d just paid my dues with Putin-friendly excoriation of EU, UK, NATO.
My gut says Trump’s performances in Brussels, London and Helsinki were entirely based on emotions– pride/ arrogance, fear/ shame, and the corresponding tactics, showmanship/ bullying, secrecy/ obsequiousness. The man is constitutionally unable to transcend his fearful ego and its morbid obsession with proving the validity of his election. That thrall requires him to throw his weight around when he can get away with it [insulting EU/ UK, which will only galvanize opposition there] and to fold/ evince cowardice when he can’t [giving green light to Russia to continue territorial & digital aggression]. He proves himself irrational.
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This is an article posted in the Straights Times of Singapore. Looks like many in the world are questioning why Trump would stand up for Putin when he has attacked American democracy.
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Trump, at Putin’s side, questions U.S. intelligence about Russian interference in elections..Straights Times of Singapore
HELSINKI (NYTIMES) – President Donald Trump stood next to President Vladimir Putin of Russia on Monday (Jul 16) and publicly challenged the conclusion of his own intelligence agencies that Moscow interfered in the 2016 presidential election, wrapping up what he called a “deeply productive” summit with an extraordinary show of trust for a leader accused of attacking American democracy.
“They said they think it’s Russia; I have President Putin, he just said it’s not Russia,” Trump said, only moments after the Russian president conceded that he had favoured Trump in the election because of his promises of warmer relations with Moscow.
“I will say this: I don’t see any reason why it would be” Russia that was responsible for the election hacking, Trump added. “I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.” The 45-minute news conference offered the remarkable spectacle of the American and Russian presidents both pushing back on the notion of Moscow’s election interference, with Putin demanding evidence of something he said had never been proved and Trump appearing to agree…
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/trump-at-putins-side-questions-us-intelligence-about-russian-interference-in?xtor=EREC-16-1%5BST_Newsletter_AM%5D-20180717-%5BTrump%2C+at+Putin%27s+side%2C+questions+U.S.+intelligence+about+Russian+interference+in+elections%5D&xts=538291&utm_source=google_gmail&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany
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I won’t be surprised if Mueller finds that some of our Republican Congresspeople colluded in some way with the Russians. Why else would they be so obsequious to Trump? They have, at the very least, abdicated their responsibility to be a separate but equal branch of government and a check on the president’s power. They are derelict in upholding the oath they took to defend the constitution. I don’t care if we are in war time or not. Our president is a traitor to his country and more than a disgrace. He is a threat to the fabric of our country plain and simple.
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The Republicans are looking out for themselves, not their country.
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From the Russian indictments of last week, at least one congressperson did get help from Russian hacking. We should know who that is, like immediately.
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Treasonous Trump. That’s how he will go down in history. The betrayal of values is really profound.
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I’m encouraged to see that Donnelly is speaking out against Trump. Senator Joe Donnelly [D-IN], who is running scared since he’s up for re-election in red Indiana had the following to say:
“President Trump met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki today — and instead of taking Putin to task for interfering in our 2016 elections, he embraced Putin and abandoned our nation’s intelligence community.
When given the chance to stand up for our security interests, President Trump denied the consensus of our intelligence community, including Director of National Intelligence and former Indiana Senator Dan Coats, that Russia attempted to influence the 2016 election. Standing next to Vladimir Putin, he blamed the United States instead.
As a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, I’m extremely disappointed by what happened today in Helsinki. It was a blow to America’s national security. Now Russia may be empowered to interfere in our elections once again — and we cannot allow that.
I want to hear from you, Carol. What did you think of President Trump’s meeting with Putin?”
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Just got back from a bar and had a raucous discussion with a number of people. Even the Trump cult members were wobbly. But the consensus of a number of imbibed “middle Americans” was: this was an historic day. Probably the most significant day since September 11th.
If we don’t see administration members resign starting tomorrow, if we don’t see the Republican members of Congress who tweeted their despair today starting to do something about it tomorrow, then we, as a nation, will have an existential crisis. Today is one of those rare days in history. Quo vadis?
I remember where I was when Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated. I remember where I was when Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated. I remember being entranced by the Watergate hearings when I was a middle schooler on my summer vacation. I remember where I was when Ronald Reagan was shot. I remember where I was when the Challenger exploded. I remember pulling off the side of the road and sobbing uncontrollably when I heard the Berlin Wall had fallen. I remember where I was on September 11th. I will remember today for the rest of my life. Will the cult of our Dear Leader and Republicans in elective office—federal, state, and local—remember this day as the day that they reclaimed their American citizenship?
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Greg,
I share your sense of despair. Our nation has had all kinds of leaders but never a craven traitor.
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If Coats, Huntsman, Pompeo, Bolton, Sessions, Haspel, and every undersecretary of state with a role in Russian affairs in the State and Defense Departments do not resign within this week, they are complicit. We need a reverse Saturday Night Massacre to restore our faith and confidence in our government.
It is not enough for Senators and members of Congress to tweet their outrage, however noble it may sound in the short term. The entire agenda of this administration, from Supreme Court nominations to the hiring of custodians must halt to defer to the next administration, even if it is a Pence administration.
Silence and going along and getting along is now tantamount to aiding treason.
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Charlottesville. Both sides make some good points.
North Korea. We should communicate.
Russia. Both sides make some good points.
If Hitler were in power, this president would want to meet with him so he could say he met with him – and come out saying “both sides make some good points.”
Sick.
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Diane posted a comment of mine the other day in which I said this:
Look, it’s clear. This is not hard to figure out. There was a very genuine royal screwing of the American Republic in November of 2016. Trump and the Trump campaign engaged in behavior that has to be called what it really is: treason. There’s no way around it.
Trump made that explicitly clear in Helsinki. The New York Daily News front page picture described it perfectly, ‘Open Treason.’
This is much broader and deeper than many thought. But much of the evidence has been in plain sight for quite a while. Top Republican elected officials are involved. The Republican puppet-master, the NRA, is involved. Trump and the Republican party are dire threats to the sustenance of a democratic republic.
James Fallows at The Atlantic said that Republicans have a choice:
“Either Trump is flat-out an agent of Russian interests…Or he is so profoundly ignorant, insecure, and narcissistic that he did not realize that, at every step, he was advancing the line that Putin hoped he would advance, and the line that the American intelligence, defense, and law-enforcement agencies most dreaded…Conscious tool. Useful idiot. Those are the choices, though both are possibly true…with every hour that elapses after this shocking performance in Helsinki without Republicans doing anything, the more deeply they are stained by this dark moment in American leadership.”
Fallows is far too kind. The Republican party is already tainted, badly tainted, irrevocably tainted. The Russian money trail, Trump’s comments and behavior, and past and present machinations by Congressional Republicans make that obvious.
There’s a pretty clear choice for American citizens too. You’re either for the Republic, or you’re for Russia and its proxies, the NRA and the Republican party.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/ny-daily-news-depicts-trump-shooting-uncle-sam-in-latest-cover-open-treason/
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I agree. He is either an idiot or a tool.
My view for 2020:
Accept no weak substitute.
Vote for Putin.
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Kristin, MomsRising.org info@momsrising.org
9:26 PM (7 minutes ago)
Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and people across the political spectrum must stand together and condemn Donald Trump for his disloyalty to our own government and disregard of Russia’s threats to our nation’s electoral integrity.
Thank you for joining us in demanding that Congress take action now and censure the President by publicly condemning him for his statements at the summit with President Putin of Russia, as well as take immediate bipartisan action to protect our electoral integrity and advance investigations.
Send this link to your family and friends so they can sign on too!
https://action.momsrising.org/sign/TrumpCensure_Helsinki?source=aae&aktmid=tm4934858.7JZBoA&akid=a21293715.39721.H5CBvr&t=2
Together we can raise many voices – thank you for all you do!
Kristin
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