In Idaho, a school went into lockdown, and some parents rushed to the school with their weapons to protect the children. Some brought their AR-15 assault weapons. The police stopped them and asked them not to intervene. The police were rightly fearful that there could be a shootout and a parent might be killed on suspicion that he or she was the shooter. Too many guns at the scene means bullets flying and the possibility of more victims, possibly students, teachers, police, or in this case, parents.
In New York City, where I live, the police don’t like to see civilians with guns. It is illegal and it gets in the way of law enforcement.
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Oh no. You can’t bring guns to a session in Congress. You can’t bring them to an NRA convention. And now you can’t bring them to a school?
Can I at least bring mine to a ladies’ luncheon, a christening, a wedding, a ride at “It’s a Small World” in Orlando, a fashion fundraiser, a PTA bake sale, and a performance of “La Boheme”? What about a shopping spree at the GAP?
I can just see all the genteel people dressed to the nines with their AR-15s brandished in the middle of some of the most lush and opulent arias written and sung. It must have been what Puccini had exactly in mind.
Ha ha 😀 Sounds more like a scene from Fellini
Nonsense. This is America.
Of course, the only bullet I’ve only dealt with is the one I use to make smoothies . . . I wish the NRA would replace all their pieces with a Nutri-bullet. The world would be a better and more nourished place. The blenders in Norway are not so great, believe it or not.
Tee-hee, bought my Magic Bullet (& one for my son) in ultra-American fashion, via late-night infomercial twofer.
I guess you’re trying to be funny, but guns are allowed almost everywhere in Texas, including the state capital building and public universities. Definitely wouldn’t be unusual to find a gun at a ladies’ luncheon, christening, wedding, fashion fundraiser, or bake sale.
I’m sure there are places in Texas where you could watch an opera accompanied by a gun.
Concealed guns are often allowed in restaurants and stores. And open carry activists believe they have the right to openly bring their firearms into private businesses, so it wouldn’t even be that big of a surprise to see a gun in the Gap. Here’s a man taking his gun into Walmart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2_ehp_pOQ0
Texas public schools already have gun-carrying teachers.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/24/armed-teachers-texas-trump-362397
Utah and Idaho have both allowed teachers to conceal carry for 15 years. The carriers don’t have to tell anyone that they’re carrying.
I realized how naive I have been about how ubiquitous guns might be by seeing pictures of the number of guns taken from people trying to get onto planes, some fully loaded.
And those parents were wrong to do so, dead wrong.
The least I would care about would be the lives of the parents bringing their guns to school.
BackAgain: Why do you say you wouldn’t care about the parent’s lives? I care about their lives even if they believed they were doing something to help their child.
It was a stupid move. Why not have parents shooting automatic rifles, police shooting whatever they carry, and the killer kid shooting all at the same time. After all, guns don’t kill and more guns equals more safety for all.
Maybe the principal should have purchased $300 bullet proof whiteboards for all students so everyone is safe. [The price of this ‘precious life saver’ may be higher now OR the company may have gone out of business. I vote for the latter.]
The NRA is a domestic terrorist organization that spreads fear. This is an abomination on the lives of all Americans. Nobody is safe if guns is their way to protect. Guns are made for killing and they do a very good job.
Oh, that is a good one. The NRA is a “domestic terrorist organization.” I was calling them a greedy death machine.
Back Again,
Why bother caring about anyone’s lives? Guns come first.
It’s time for a revival of Jules Feiffer’s “Little Murders”. Haven’t seen it since ’71, but I still remember the nerve-wracked cop (Alan Arkin) hesitantly opening his host’s bullet-proofed apartment window a crack & nearly getting zinged by a bullet.
Self-deployment is the price we pay for our current interpretation of the second amendment. An ad hoc gathering of armed parents passes in this day and age as a “well regulated militia.”
Given the world we are choosing to live in so that everyone can buy whatever kind of weapon they want, it’s time for school districts across the country where gun laws are lax and stand-you-ground legislation is in place to revise their safety plans. Step one during a lock down needs to be deploying someone on the staff to seal off the entry ways so that those in the armed parent posse don’t get confused for “active shooters” and draw fire from the police in the school or en route to the school.
Senator Todd Young from Indiana:
The liberals in Washington are threatening the rights of patriotic Americans. They are pushing for extreme, radical new gun control. And the mainstream media isn’t telling the American public about their real goal: to take away our Second Amendment rights. I will stand against their threats to our rights.
I BELIEVE gun control laws only disarm law-abiding Americans.
I BELIEVE gun control puts all of us at greater risk.
I BELIEVE the Constitution’s 2nd Amendment protects our right to keep and bear arms.
THAT’S WHY I defend the 2nd Amendment.
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13-year-old shot by stray bullet appeared in anti-gun violence video
Sunday, March 27, 2016
CHICAGO (WLS) —
A 13-year-old boy who was shot by a stray bullet on the West Side appeared in an anti-gun violence video last year.
Zarriel Trotter, who was not the intended target, was shot Friday night in the lower back when a dispute erupted down the street from him.
On Sunday, Trotter remained in stable, but critical condition after undergoing surgery on Saturday.
In a 2015 public service announcement, Trotter spoke out against gun violence.
“I don’t want to live in my community where I have to keep on hearing of people getting shot and people getting killed,” Trotter said in the video…
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Teen shot and killed by police while carrying toy rifle
SANTA ROSA, CALIF. Residents of a Northern California community expressed skepticism Thursday about a sheriff’s deputy’s decision to shoot a popular 13-year-old boy who was carrying a pellet gun that looked like an assault rifle.
A preliminary autopsy report released Thursday said Andy Lopez was shot seven times, and the two fatal wounds were in his right hip and the right side of his chest.
The final autopsy results won’t be ready for several weeks.
Meanwhile, hundreds of people marched more than 3 miles from Santa Rosa City Hall to the field where Andy Lopez was killed Tuesday afternoon…
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Tyre King, 13, Fatally Shot by Police in Columbus, Ohio
by Kurt Chirbas, Alexander Smith and Erik Ortiz / Sep.15.2016
Police in Columbus, Ohio, were investigating how a 13-year-old boy wanted for questioning Wednesday night in an armed robbery ended up fatally shot by an officer.
The child — later identified by Columbus police as Tyre King — had “pulled a gun from his waistband” when officers attempted to take him and another male into custody, the Columbus Division of Police said in a statement. As the encounter unfolded, an officer shot King “multiple times.”..
Senator Todd Young [R-IN] was given $2,896,732 by the NRA. Why shouldn’t I call the NRA a domestic terrorist organization?
I hope Indiana Democrats can run a strong anti-NRA candidate against Todd Young.
Diane: Senator Joe Donnelly [D-IN] is up for re-election. He is scared of loosing against a Republican billionaire. I doubt that he would ever stand up against the NRA. He knows that Hoosiers demand their gun rights. [The fact that this article was written in the Indianapolis Star newspaper offers a very small glint of hope.]
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Tully: Joe Donnelly’s position on guns no longer tolerable
Matthew Tully Published 8:32 a.m. ET June 15, 2016 | Updated 8:50 a.m. ET June 15, 2016
Sen. Joe Donnelly is often the “man in the middle.” But on guns, he’s an NRA proxy….
Since Donnelly’s election in November 2012, we’ve had Newtown and the Washington Navy Yard, Fort Hood and San Bernardino, Charleston and Orlando. We’ve had mass shootings at a community college in Oregon, a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado, all across Kalamazoo one recent night, and in so many other places. All of this on top of the horrific gun violence that is shattering so many neighborhoods in the state Donnelly serves.
It feels different now.
Donnelly’s overall record on gun policies, first in the House and now in the Senate, and his general avoidance of taking a leadership position on the issue, seems much less tolerable than it did four years ago. Those of us who have supported both Donnelly and smarter gun policies need to let him know that while he doesn’t have to be a liberal on gun control, he at least has to start acting like the pragmatic moderate that he is on most other issues.
Pragmatic moderates do not receive repeated “A” ratings from the National Rifle Association. Pragmatic moderates do not lead their state in the amount of campaign contributions received from the NRA. Pragmatic moderates do not co-sponsor bills blocking local gun control measures, such as those he has fought in Washington, D.C. And they do not oppose bans on the consumer sale of assault-style weapons or high-capacity magazines….
Check out this story on IndyStar.com: http://indy.st/28EeDfA
Wow, so much craziness in just one news report.
The girls who called the Sheriff’s office brought about the lockdown. Why didn’t they go to an adult in the building?
How much did the response to the school cost in terms of manpower and time?
What are the side effects for kids at the school while in lockdown – how many kids expected to die? (Good thing it wasn’t testing season!)
Why are there such large discrepancies between the mother’s account and the official story?
Why didn’t the parents who showed up armed trust the sheriff’s capabilities.
Because this is the Wild West, and we are all so “self sufficient” out here. We trust nobody and nothing, except for Trump, I guess. By the way, I don’t include myself in the “we.” But that’s the attitude (I live about two hours from this school).
Hi Threatened: You live in Idaho? I lived in Meridian until age 8 and then moved to Boise. I graduated from Boise Junior College. [I think it’s Boise State University now.] I live in the gunslinger Old West in Indiana. Both are great states if you want to die from guns.
I’m guessing that the sheriff likely knew who some of the gunsling parents were right off the bat. The kind of folks who know all about how to do someone else’s job.
Boycott the schools! Take the kids out.
Why be so risk-intolerant?
Is what you have now really working for you?
There will be, mark my words, many more deaths from shootings in schools before real change is enacted, and it will come slowly. Those sacrificial lambs . . . . Horrible.
If you are concerned about privatizers diverting kids from public schools into charters, don’t worry; the charters don’t have the capacity to attract and absorb that many kids across the nation.
I say pull out and starve the systemic beast. Teachers will be furious as well as administrators; school boards will be furious, as will many students. Tax payers will be furious, because they will be paying for school operations and services not consumed. Legislators will be furious as will testing companies. Employers will be furious because parents will be more absent from work to care for their kids or they will bring them to work.
Let them all band together and direct their nuclear bomb fury at Congress and the Senate and President, where it squarely belongs.
You Americans have historically been far too nice and polite. You can get militant and muscle bound without becoming violent.
Pulling out is an excellent way to do it. Withdraw the feeding tube and kill the beast . . . .
This may be bad (I’m no Some Dam Poet), but reading this immediately made me think about “You Can’t Get a Man w/a Gun” (but you CAN buy a legislator!) from “Annie Get Your Gun.” To paraphrase some of it:
Too quick on the trigger, cause NRA is bigger,
It buys legislators one by one.
Spend big dollars to elect ’em, when voters should reject ’em,
But you can’t have a plan with a gun.
With a gu-un, with a gu-un,
No parents, can’t make a plan with a gun.
And police never trifle,
With parents carrying rifles,
And the British no longer come.
Old (1791) Amendment #2,* it
really doesn’t do
& you can’t make a plan with a gun.
With a gu-un, with a gu-un,
Parents–don’t make a plan with a gun.
*First ten amendments ratified effective December 15, 1791. Amendment II:
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,shall not be infringed.”
(From my handy pocket edition of The Constitution of the United States which, given these days, I keep in my possession always & everywhere {as so advised by an American political & history scholar!}.)