I vividly recall the Sandy Hook massacre, the slaughter of 20 first grade children and six members of the staff at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. It came as a huge shock to discover that some people believed it was an elaborate hoax, played by professional actors.
Now the parents are suing the perpetrator of the hoax theory, Alex Jones. Jones is a great admirer of Trump. Both assert that we live in a Post-truth world. Trump has appeared on Jones’ program “InfoWars,” boosting his following.
The story in the New York Times reads, in part:
More than five years after one of the most horrific mass shootings in modern history, the families of Sandy Hook victims are still enduring daily threats and online abuse from people who believe bogus theories spread by Mr. Jones, whom President Trump has praised for his “amazing” reputation.
Now, for the first time, the families are confronting Mr. Jones in court.
“When anybody’s behind a machine, whether it’s a gun or a computer or a car, a dehumanization takes place that makes it easier to commit an act of violence,” Veronique De La Rosa, the mother of Noah Pozner, another victim, said in an interview. She is suing Mr. Jones, she said, because she wants to force him to admit to his devotees that “he peddled a falsehood, that Sandy Hook is real and that Noah was a real, living, breathing little boy who deserved to live out the rest of his life.”
In three separate lawsuits — the most recent was filed on Wednesday in Superior Court in Bridgeport, Conn. — the families of eight Sandy Hook victims as well as an F.B.I. agent who responded to the shooting seek damages for defamation. The families allege in one suit, filed by Koskoff, Koskoff & Bieder in Bridgeport, that Mr. Jones and his colleagues “persistently perpetuated a monstrous, unspeakable lie: that the Sandy Hook shooting was staged, and that the families who lost loved ones that day are actors who faked their relatives’ deaths.”
More broadly, the families are seeking society’s verdict on “post truth” culture in which widely disseminated lies damage lives and destroy reputations, yet those who spread them are seldom held accountable. The suit filed on Wednesday emphasizes Mr. Jones’s reach and connection to Mr. Trump. On his show last year, Mr. Jones called himself and his listeners “the operating system of Trump.” Later he said, “I’m making it safe for everybody else to speak out just like Trump’s doing, on a much bigger scale.”
When the president called the news media the “enemy of the people” last year, Mr. Jones proudly tweeted that he used the phrase first, in 2015.
Mr. Trump has also echoed InfoWars’ false claims that Hillary Clinton benefited from the votes of millions of illegal immigrants in the election, and repeated InfoWars’ bogus charge that the news media covers up terrorist attacks.
Fantastical explanations for traumatic events punctuate history. But 21st-century conspiracy theorists gather in vast online networks where bogus claims reach millions in minutes, and where participants like Mr. Jones use social media and online marketing to turn an eccentric preoccupation into a thriving commercial enterprise.
Mr. Jones pitches the false claims, along with diet supplements and survivalist gear, on his InfoWars website, radio program and YouTube channel. His videos have been viewed more than a billion times. He most likely sells $7 million to $12 million worth of diet supplements a year, according to an analysis in New York magazine.
Sandy Hook families have been followed, videotaped and harassed by people demanding “proof” that their loved ones died. Monuments to the slain children in Newtown have been stolen and defaced. An Alex Jones devotee went to prison last year after phoning and emailing Leonard Pozner, Noah’s father, with death threats, including “LOOK BEHIND YOU IT IS DEATH.” The family relocated to a gated community with 24-hour security. Their daughters, who survived the shooting, check doors and windows before going to bed, and sleep with the lights on.
Nate Wheeler, 15, who hid in a school supply closet during the shooting that killed his 6-year-old brother, Ben, struggles to understand false online claims that both boys and their parents were “crisis actors” and that his brother never died, his father, David Wheeler, said in an interview. Mr. Wheeler has found messages on his social media accounts telling him that he will face divine judgment for lying when he dies, he said.
Wednesday’s suit follows twin defamation lawsuits filed in Texas in April by the parents of two other victims — Mr. Heslin, and Ms. De La Rosa and Mr. Pozner. Mr. Jones did not respond to requests for comment. After the Texas lawsuits were filed last month, he posted a 10-minute videotaped response suggestive of how his positions on the event shifted. “I questioned the P.R. and the talking points that surrounded the Sandy Hook massacre,” he said. “But very quickly I began to believe that the massacre happened, despite the fact that the public doubted it.”
And yet in an earlier video on his website, titled “Alex Jones Final Statement on Sandy Hook,” he says: “If children were lost in Sandy Hook, my heart goes out to each and every one of those parents, and the people that say they’re parents that I see on the news. The only problem is, I’ve watched a lot of soap operas, and I’ve seen actors before.”
It would be very satisfying to see huge judgments against the vicious Mr. Jones. He has caused grief to heartbroken families. Money can’t replace the beloved children they lost. But it might deter crackpots and creeps like Jones from harassing them and others similarly situated in the future.
By the way, Alex Jones did not invent the term “enemy of the people” to describe those they hate. For the record, Joseph Stalin or his PR team did. It was a standard phrase in the Soviet Union to describe classes of people who deserved to be eliminated, in the opinion of the state leaders.
What a vile person.
One can only hope that Jones is sued back to the stone ages for this horrible hoax that he has perpetuated against innocent people dealing with grief and agony at the loss of a beloved child. That anyone would believe the bilge that Jones pumps out on a daily basis is even more shocking and appalling. These poor parents have been through enough, they deserve relief and a huge compensation for all of Jones’s fear mongering, bullying and chicanery.
If Peter Thiel can bankroll a suit against Gawker and bankrupt it completely for much less than this, I don’t understand why these parents should not be able to bankrupt Alex Jones. Jones’ lies — which put those parents in deadly danger as well as their remaining children in deadly danger — is far worse than anything Gawker did to Hulk Hogan.
To remind people, Peter Thiel is the billionaire Trump supporter who sat on the Facebook board and sent his own Palantir employees to work directly with Cambridge Analytica to “help” the Trump campaign.
Of course, I’m sure that little coincidence — that one of Truimp’s biggest supporters sat on the Facebook board while his employees worked dirfectly with Cambridge Analytica — had absolutely nothing to do with why Facebook lied and covered up how their data was being used and professed complete ignorance about it.
I’m sure that the fact that one of Trump’s biggest billionaire supporters sat on the Facebook board AND his employees directly helped Cambridge Analytica do its dirty stuff AND Facebook covered it up was just a coincidence.
But if Thiel can win against Gawker and destroy it, these parents should win against Alex Jones because the intentional danger Jones put innocent parents and children in with his intentional lies is appalling. And far worse than anything that Gawker did.
There will be more Alex Joneses in the future because of our anti-knowledge public schools. When schools fail to tell kids what the world is, con men like Jones gleefully fill the void. Half of my neighbors believe con trails are “chem trails”. Several believe the earth is flat –seriously! Diane, I think you’d be shocked to realize how much the knowledge-transmission project has collapsed in our schools. Teaching, as you experienced it in Houston Public Schools –that is, teaching stuff –is almost extinct in some schools. Doing stuff, like writing tortured explanations of how a passage in Huck Finn shows third person omniscient narration, has replaced learning stuff. Teachers’ telling kids stuff is “bad”. The processes of “constructing knowledge” and “inquiry” are fetishized, even though they result in little to no actually accurate knowledge about the world. Kids arrive at our middle school unable to produce legible penmanship, unable to read an analog clock, unable to name the capital of our state or the county they live in, and on and on and on. I do not exaggerate when I suspect that many of them may not have learned anything short of decoding and very basic math in elementary school. Half-hearted efforts to teach a few facts are made, but the art of making facts stick is lost –it’s not considered important these days. What little knowledge kids possess comes from movies, YouTube, porn sites, video games, and if they’re lucky, better educated parents. A very dangerous educational heresy has infected our education schools and become the new orthodoxy. It claims to impart higher-order and critical thinking skills, but it does no such thing. What it does is insure ignorance. I fear for our country.
Please don’t blame the public schools for Alex Jones!
The public schools produced Emma Gonzales and David Hogg.
Don’t you think it’s a problem if kids aren’t receiving a foundation of accepted truths about reality from their teachers? Is laissez faire good for creating citizens?
Ponderosa,
The Trump White House is filled with middle aged and older white men who supposedly got that foundation of “accepted truths”.
Trump’s support is highest among the foolish old white people. Trump’s support is lowest among young people who saw through his lies and the Republican lies.
Obviously, support of Trump is about a culture of selfishness and ugliness that has nothing to do with public schools.
NYC Parent: I’m not saying the Boomers received a perfect education or that education can eliminate wickedness from the world (I agree with you about the culture of selfishness and ugliness). But the 55% of Americans who hate Jones and Trump as I do probably do so in part because they were educated about the evils of totalitarianism and its warning signs, about tribalism and its dangers, about the world and its cultures (mitigating xenophobia). What can we expect from a generation that spends its school years doing units on specious skill building exercises rather than learning their history facts and reading 1984? It does seem we’ve done a decent job of diminishing racism in the rising generation, though I wonder how much of that’s due to schools and how much to Hollywood. That’s a bulwark against this particular authoritarian demagogue –for now –and for some youth. Many of my students are rabid Trump supporters and believe CNN et al are “fake news”. This scares me.
Ponderosa: “Many of my students are rabid Trump supporters and believe CNN et al are “fake news”. This scares me.”
I went to lunch today with two friends. I know that one gets her news from Fox. Both agreed that what they liked most about Trump is that he stands up for himself. Nobody takes advantage of him. [Thought I’d throw up at that point but the food was too good to waste.]
These two ladies are very well educated and are wealthy. They are both heavy Trump supporters. Explain why that is happening. The only thing I can figure out is that the media they are watching is NOT telling the truth. Trump is slowly destroying this country and I should be happy that nobody takes advantage of him?
It’s odd, isn’t it, what matters to some people? Persona counts more than policy. Is this the fruit of ignorance about policy and the matters it concerns? Perhaps.
I suspect Trump’s incessant lying is negated, in many supporter’s minds, by their sense that he is telling some Big Truths that have been suppressed or soft-pedaled by the media –e.g. about the downsides of high-volume immigration, or the culpability of many blacks in police encounters that end ugly. Seen this way, Trump is the big truth teller, and CNN the big liar. It’s not that all Trumpsters are “post-truth”, as many liberals assume; it’s that they give Trump copious credit for some important “truths” they are grateful he’s telling.
Trump is good at one thing. He is a demagogue. When you watch him manipulate a crowd, playing to their base instincts, you almost have to admire his complete fraudence. I suspect Hitler had the same ability to play his audience like a violin.
Diane, this sounds like Trump to me.
Demagogue
“A demagogue or rabble-rouser is a leader in a democracy who gains popularity by exploiting prejudice and ignorance among the common people, whipping up the passions of the crowd and shutting down reasoned deliberation. Demagogues overturn established customs of political conduct, or promise or threaten to do so.”
The older relatives of mine who support Trump received similar 1950s/1960s public educations. One was non-academic and the other has 2 graduate degrees.
What they have in common is they are looking for scapegoats and Trump gives them nice scapegoats to blame. Because deep down, it is clear that his racism and xenophobia is part of his appeal to them.
What Trump supporters have in common is NOT education but their embrace of the xenophobia and racism and scapegoating that Trump offers to them.
NYC PSP,
Exactly right. Trump is the master at scapegoating. That’s what he does best.
Wait, what?
Lots of the followers of Jones are old folks that attended school in the ’50s and 60s when a decent amount of knowledge was taught. Jones appeals to people that are angry or fearful of change.
Yeh, they went to segregated schools. Longing for those good old days of unquestioned white supremacy.
Which makes me even more scared: the fifty year olds of the future will have even less foundation of truthful knowledge in their heads (though they probably will be less racist, which is good).
I wrote about contempt, to you Diane, just this week after reading this https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/there-is-only-one-trump-scandal/560825/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20180521&silverid-ref=MzM0NTY0NzMyNzIyS0
I said to you and a few others:, “To me, dear friends it is all about CONTEMPT…the kind of contempt that I see across this nation, even when I drive — a contempt not just for the laws, but for the rules that guide our conduct., for the very values that made America the go-to place in the modern world. And I see one reason for this, there is not a shred of accountability for the most egregious, contemptible behavior.”
That critter Jones is the metaphor for the brand of utter contempt that allows a human being to behave abominably.
I am so glad that the parents who lost a child, and then had to suffer this man’s evil mouth– are going to draw some ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE LIAR.
Next, must come making that …that… thing in the White house face accountability for the destruction his lunacy has wrought.
This guy is sick, demented, disgusting…words fail me here…
Looking at The Times article, it’s striking to me how Jones was, “…profoundly shaped by reading his father’s copy of “None Dare Call It Conspiracy,” a 1971 best-seller by Gary Allen, a John Birch Society spokesman and speechwriter for George Wallace, the former Alabama governor, during his presidential run.”
It reminds me of Donald Trump’s deep links to the oily, evil Roy Cohn and hence down through history to Senator Joe McCarthy.
McCarthy, Cohn, the John Birchers, George Wallace and now Alex Jones and Trump. And, throw in that idiot DeVos. The WORST angels of our country’s nature…the retch-inducing stench of the oozing gangrene that demagogues and their followers can leave festering for years within our body politic. “They’re back…..”
Yup, the past sure ain’t dead.
A link to a Trump – Cohn article: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/donald-trump-roy-cohn-relationship
From that piece: “As columnist Liz Smith once observed, “Donald lost his moral compass when he made an alliance with Roy Cohn.”
Yeah, Alex Jones is whack. Big-time whack. But guess what? So is Kimberly Strassel at the Wall Street Journal.
Strassel graduated from Princeton, so presumably (cough, cough) she’s one of the “best and brightest.” And yet, Strassel is now a leader – from her perch on the WSJ editorial board – in spewing all kinds of nonsense conspiracy theories.
Strassel endorsed the idea of equipping classroom teachers with guns, but she didn’t stop there. She suggested they be armed with stun grenades too.
She’s now trying — like Agent Orange himself — to lay the whole Trump conspiracy mess with Russia at the feet of Obama. Yeah. It isn’t enough to try and pin the blame for Trump’s treason on Clinton. These tools have to try and blame Obama too.
Sad, pathetic people.
I know her personally. I won’t disagree.
I read Kimberly Strassel. She is nothing like Alex Jones. And, I do not recall anything like the Agent Orange analogy described above.
She’s definitely not in the same league of insanity as Alex Jones is. Few are.
John B,
I can’t believe you are defending Kimberly Strassel.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/05/19/wsj_kim_strassel_mindboggling_that_obamas_doj_spied_on_the_republican_partys_presidential_nominee.html
“Can you think of any time in history when this has happened or when anyone thought it was OK for – by the way, the Department of Justice is being run by one political party, electronically surveilling and then also spying on the leading candidate, for a nominee for opposing party running for the presidency.”
If you “read” Kimberly Strassel and you felt the need to step in to defend her because “she’s not like Alex Jones”, then I’m guessing you disagree with most of what Diane Ravitch writes, too. Am I right?
John B….Kimberly Strassel is a more polite and articulate version of Alex Jones. But she’s a big-time prevaricator.
“On his show last year, Mr. Jones called himself and his listeners “the operating system of Trump.” Later he said, “I’m making it safe for everybody else to speak out just like Trump’s doing, on a much bigger scale.”
I am horrified that such characters exist on earth. They send out false lies and then work to make everyone else liars. They are cheats who deserve the full extent of the law.
These poor parents and their living children have gone through great misery. It is sad that their hurts have been compounded by people like Trump and Alex who only work to make their own lives more comfortable. It is time that both of them have to face the fact that they are causing untold problems and stress. Face the truth, post it on their sites or on TV and then go into obscurity and never be heard of again.
I’m tired of the lies that separate and destroy our society.
Jones is the ‘operating system of Trump”. Here is what CNN is saying about our Great Leader. It is liars like Jones that keep Trump’s followers believing all sorts of nonsense. [Murdock and Fox are also pushers of how great our Orange IDIOT is doing.]
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CNN: The President has been peddling a conspiracy theory that the FBI spied on his 2016 campaign. US officials have told CNN the source was not a spy but was talking with Trump campaign advisers about Russians. CNN’s Anderson Cooper last night said Trump is “amping up what, for all intents and purposes, is a deception campaign.” Famed Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein went even further, saying, “The lies from President Trump are unlike anything we have ever seen from a modern President of the United States.”
I hope they sue him into penury. And other potential litigants? The quack remedies and snake oil Jones shills may be grounds for a civil action as well.
It is about time that some action is taken against the purveyors of fake news and conspiracy theories. Revolting people like Jones need to feel the consequences of their actions. This time Jones messed with the wrong group of bereaved parents.
I’m not a lawyer but … I suspect this will not be an easy lawsuit to gain traction. Lying is protected speech under the First Amendment. Defamation isn’t, but I think that’s going to be a hard case to prove, especially in the current political environment. Emotional damages alone are usually not sufficient to prove harm and I’m not seeing any economic harm from Jones’s boorish behavior.
I do applaud the plaintiffs’ efforts and I hope I’m wrong, but I’m guessing this lawsuit won’t even advance very far.
I fear you are right but hope you are wrong. Watch what the ACLU does.
The parents are not public figures.
Which makes it even less likely that their lawsuit will be successful. They simply don’t have the clout. It’s a tough sale to argue that they’ve suffered any economic damage, and in this rugged individualistic day and age, as David Coleman might say, no one gives a s— about your emotional damages.
Again, I actually hope I’m proven wrong. But I won’t hold my breath.
I’m rusty on this stuff, but defamation cases are harder to win when the target of the defamation is a public figure, because you have to show that the speaker was either lying or didn’t care about the truth. With non-public figures, you just have to show that the statement was false. I agree that damages will be the tough part. On the other hand, this is pretty egregious stuff. Could be the kind of case where the plaintiff wins but gets only a nominal damages award.
The Dandy Hook Parents are not public figures. If they and their children have been threatened, they can show damages. I hope they collect millions for their pain and suffering.
We will see how they fare in court. If I were the judge, I would hold Jones liable for the emotional damage he causes them by fearing for their own lives.
I’m not a lawyer either, and don’t want to be seen as arguing in favor of a low-life like Jones, but doesn’t being quoted in the media make the parents “public figures?”
I’d be more than happy with the disappearance of Jones and his ilk, but I think Dienne is likely correct; I see these suits facing a tough time in the courts.
Good “lawyer-thinking,” Michael. I don’t know the answer to that one.
Being quoted in the media doesn’t make you a public figure. If asked, could you cite the names of any of the parents? I could not.
I think when you and your surviving children are subjected to death threats, it should be very easy to prove damages.
And it is very easy to prove that Alex Jones was absolutely lying when he insisted there was no proof at all that those murdered children every existed when that was the most blatant lie of all.
You’re probably right, Dienne, but if nothing else, people of good will and rectitude (and yes, whose children are martyred) will confront in camera the dimwitted, bullying fraud that is Alex Jones. Even if they collect no damages, this man will be shown for who he is–and for all the world to see.
I can’t speak for these bereaved parents, but I’ll settle for that.
The phrase, “an enemy of the people” , was used, according to,a wiki,source, in Coriolanus, a Shakespeare play I never read. I thought I had come across it used by Robespierre during the French Revolution, but that might have been ascribed to the Jacobins by Some contemporary writer. Needless to say, Alex Jones did not even invent the association with Journalism in general, for similar accusations certainly permeated the rise of European fascism in the period after the Great War.
Jackasses who bray often act as though they think they invented the sound.
Meanwhile, back to the subject at hand. Conspiracy theories that hover around news events are as old as conflict itself. Was it not Ceasar’s friend, Brutus, who joined those who feared the power of one man, and sought to eliminate one man to,save their society? Lutheran minister Bonheoffer famously joined the plot to kill Hitler. These are real plots. Reagan allowed his CIA to conspire to sell arms to Iran so they could better fight Saddam Hussien and use the money to fund The anti-Sandinista Contras.
These real conspiracies fuel belief in the fantastic among those who live lives far from power but full of tension, either from their own personal anxieties or from those forced on them by a rapidly changing society. This is part of the tension that fuels those on the fringes of society to commit these acts of violence we have been discussing in the wake of Santa Fe. People like Alex Jones add to the demeanor of the times, the Zeitgeist that produces the violence. To have a chef Executive who promotes this behavior is dangerous.
Maybe Alex Jones is just appealing to the ignorant, uniformed, or generally clueless masses he in the states…kinda like Trump did…..
Leslie, who else would listen to Alex Jones and Trump? People like them are ignorant and are very willing to see that everyone who listens picks up that stench. It is filling this country and we are going downward. I hope we as a democracy find the brakes to put a stop to this clueless wonder or we will all pay. Ignorance and hatred is not something to worship.