The New York Times posted a graph that helps to explain mass shootings.
“Perhaps, some speculate, it is because American society is unusually violent. Or its racial divisions have frayed the bonds of society. Or its citizens lack proper mental care under a health care system that draws frequent derision abroad.
“These explanations share one thing in common: Though seemingly sensible, all have been debunked by research on shootings elsewhere in the world. Instead, an ever-growing body of research consistently reaches the same conclusion.
”The only variable that can explain the high rate of mass shootings in America is its astronomical number of guns….
”Americans make up about 4.4 percent of the global population but own 42 percent of the world’s guns. From 1966 to 2012, 31 percent of the gunmen in mass shootings worldwide were American, according to a 2015 study by Adam Lankford, a professor at the University of Alabama.”
Republicans like to blame mass shootings on mental health issues (“sick people”) but they don’t want to fund mental health services. Last year the eliminated a regulation that prevented people with mental illness from buying guns. Consistency is not their strong point. Although they are consistent in their fealty to the NRA.
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I’m sick of the constant cries for help by those who are not being heard. I’m sick of those who support more and more guns. I’m sick of those who don’t care about anything but giving more money to the wealthy so that millions of people are at risk from loosing health insurance. When is America going to realize that there is more to life than hurting others?
Again and again we read about killings that never seem to end. We are not at war with anyone yet we have more killings that any other country that is not at war. Why? Because of the NRA’s stupid insistence on funding gun manufacturers. They NEED to have more guns circulating in the populace so, “Why not arm everyone over and over and over again?” Why not let there be more killings of innocent children and adults who want nothing more than to lead their lives undisturbed by one more person with a gun?
Politicians are crazy and have been bought out. We see and hear just how much the NRA is giving to be sure that politicians who ‘represent the people’ never get a decent gun law passed.
I’m sick of politicians who fall in line with their party who has been bought out. Shame on the GOP and all of their sick politicians who have no real remorse. Todd Young from Indiana received over $2 million in a campaign contribution. Trump received over $21 million. How can this continue and nobody does anything?
I’m already working on the ideas of my poster and what I say will be a HUUUGE protest to these who don’t care and continue to say, “It’s a mental issue.”
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Vote the gun-supporting people out of the Senate and the Congress. That’s a good place to start.
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Diane,
According to your statement I believe you are referring to Trump and the recision of a law regarding mental illness and firearms – if not I apologize in advance. But for the moment if so I need to correct the following:
“Last year the eliminated a regulation that prevented people with mental illness from buying guns. Consistency is not their strong point. Although they are consistent in their fealty to the NRA.
It’s a myth about the law and as ususual misconstrued by NY TIMES regurgitated by lamesream media and their enmity towards Trump.
I am dismayed at your lack of accuracy and regurgitation of false info.
T he rule brought up serious charges that it was not just a violation of the Second Amendment, but Fourth Amendment due process rights – because it deprived the affected people of a right without due process. The government does have the power to restrict and even deny gun ownership to people, but it has to show that these people have engaged in behavior that makes weapons dangerous in their hands.
“[T]he regulation was opposed not just by National Rifle Association (NRA) but by several mental health and disability groups and by the American Civil Liberties Union,” Shackford wrote.
Congress and Trump eliminated a proposed rule that would have included in the federal government gun background database people who received disability payments from Social Security and received assistance to manage their benefits due to mental impairments.
This is a regulation that potentially deprived between 75,000 to 80,000 people of a right based not on what they had done but on the basis of being classified by the government in a certain way. The fact that these people may have these impairments did not inherently mean that they were dangerous to themselves or others and needed to be kept away from guns.
. The government does have to show that these people have engaged in behavior that makes weapons dangerous in their hands. Act. 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44.
Adjudicated as a mental defective.
It’s shameful for you to ignore the serious constitutional problems of this poorly conceived rule just to sow panic and implicate one’s political opponents.
The bill was debunked a year ago – stop listening to Kimmel and the laughables in the media. Kimmel is becoming a clown rather than a comic.
H.J.Res. 40, became law on Feb. 28.
It rescinded a Social Security Administration rule requiring the agency to report to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System disability applicants unable to manage their finances due to a mental health condition.
First, let’s look at how the background check system — which was launched in November 1998 — works.
Under federal law, individuals “committed to any mental institution” or “adjudicated as a mental defective” by a court, board, commission or other lawful authority are prohibited from purchasing or possessing a gun.
Courts Adjudicated as a mental defective means people who — “as a result of marked subnormal intelligence, mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease” — lack the mental capacity to manage their own affairs, or are a danger to themselves or someone else. It also includes people found insane by a court in a criminal case, or found incompetent to stand trial, or not guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibility.
In a Feb. 20 blog post, Vania Leveille, ACLU senior legislative counsel, and Susan Mizner, ACLU disability counsel, wrote that the rule was unfair and ineffective. But no data — none — show that these individuals have a propensity for violence in general or gun violence in particular.
So – it becomes laughable that carolmalaysia and others continue to berate the NRA and Republicans which – as I mentioned before – the NRA donate millions vs the billions the unions submit to the politicians – and the ACLU upheld Trump’s move along with mental health and disability groups – wow – necessary partners.
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Jscheidell,
I assume from your comment that you have no objection to allowing mentally illpersons like Adam Lanza or Nicolas Cruz to buy AR-15s. I do. I think that such killing machines should never be sold to any civilian.
Also, didn’t Trump propose to allow people on the no-fly list to purchase guns?
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Diane,
Trump is backing a gun control measure fervently supported by Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration.
I believe your question regarding Trump and the no-fly no gun list needs some clarification:
And he wants the NRA to do the same. In a tweet – PRIOR to his election and being SUPPORTED by the NRA “I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns.”
8:50 AM – Jun 15, 2016 After Orlando
NRA will remain opposed to using the no-fly list, or terror watch list, to deny constitutional rights to American citizens.
On this issue—the issue of whether people should lose their rights because the government merely suspects them of doing something wrong—the NRA shows more respect for civil liberties than most Democrats. Denying guns to people on the no-fly list is an obvious violation of due process that, if allowed to stand, could easily imperil other rights.
Joseph Stern provides the reason for the NRA at Slate:
If the government can revoke your right to access firearms simply because it has decided to place you on a secret, notoriously inaccurate list, it could presumably restrict your other rights in a similar manner. You could be forbidden from advocating for causes you believe in, or associating with like-minded activists; your right against intrusive, unreasonable searches could be suspended. And you would have no recourse: The government could simply declare that, as a name on a covert list, you are owed no due process at all.
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton criticized Republicans for rejecting a Democratic amendment that would have “block[ed] suspected terrorists from buying guns who are on the no-fly list.” But she misrepresented the measure, which would have applied to a much broader group than the no-fly list.
Clinton made her remarks on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on June 13
“Clinton, June 13 (5:14 mark): And I still am just totally bewildered by the Republican Congress’ refusal to block suspected terrorists from buying guns who are on the no-fly list.”
The Senate amendment in question, proposed by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, would have applied to a much larger group than the no-fly list. As we reported in December, Feinstein’s office told us the measure, which would have allowed the attorney general to block gun sales to individuals on these lists, would have included a few terrorist databases, and the no-fly list is a subset of one of them.
The largest of the databases is the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment, or TIDE, which included 1.1 million people as of December 2013. The second is the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Database, which is referred to simply as the Terrorist Watchlist, and contained about 800,000 names, Christopher M. Piehota, the Terrorist Screening Center director, said in congressional testimony on Sept. 18, 2014. The no-fly list is a part of that database. It contains about 64,000 names, according to Piehota’s testimony.
So, while Clinton said the measure applied to suspected terrorists on the no-fly list, that’s only 64,000 names. It actually would have applied to well over 1 million people who are on government watch lists. Republicans defeated the amendment in early December.
Republicans also put forth an alternative aimed at protecting those who wrongly find themselves on these terrorist watch lists — it would have delayed a gun sale and required a court ruling to actually block the sale — and it also included measures to defund cities that don’t help enforce federal immigration law. That measure also failed. Both were amendments to a Republican bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act.
Wow, can you believe Trump was/is on your side of the issue……
The bill was too inclusive and needed to be re written on narrowing the scope.
GO TRUMP! Are you still waiting for the collusion issue – the press seems to be letting up on it….
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Trump is a tool of the NRA. He is also a congenital liar.
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Trump is as interested in gun control as he is in climate change. His biggest interest is chasing women.
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““I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns.””
How does this statement by Trump help prevent mass shootings in schools?
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Mate,
Diane had made a comment that erroneously place Trump on side of issuing a bill to allow mentally ill to have guns in comparison to the “no fly no gun issue of rights”. . His stance, comment, was made prior to his election and it demonstrated – to some degree – that he was not supporting the NRA that was supporting him with funds. My answer also demonstrates the reason as well –
As to your question – Trump may be hated and disliked because he won over Hillary, but one should at least get the info correct when making a charge and coughing up the maligned facts of the lame stream media.
Still waiting for collusion…
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Jscheidell,
You are wrong. Trump did indeed rescind an Obama era regulation that would have prevented people with certain mental disorders from buying guns. Read Snopes review of the facts. https://www.snopes.com/trump-sign-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-illnesses/
Please do not use my blog to spread fake news.
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Snopes said you were wrong. Trump rescinded an Obamacare regulation to limit sales of guns to those with certain mental illnesses. It had not yet been implemented when Trump killed it.
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Trump is a liar. Nothing he says is true. He said today he would address mental health issues but he is cutting funding for mental health.
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Diane,
Name calling – Trump is a liar etc – does not advance a useful cogent thought to the issue – but might make you feel better.
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No, Jscheidell.
Trump is a liar. That has been established again and again by every fact checking site.
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What a huge concession that would be, if the NTA agreed that potential terrorists can’t buy guns.
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Dr Ravitch,
If memory serves me Adam Lanza used his mother’s legally purchased guns. Which points out the problem of gun proliferation in general.
I still wonder why a mother would take a youth w autism to a shooting range. Since he shot her before going to the Sandy Hook elementary school, we’ll never know.
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It’s a complex problem with many partial solutions. The only thing you can be sure of is that the Gun Obsessed Party will obstruct all of them.
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In Wake of Florida Massacre, Gun Control Advocates Look to Connecticut…NYT
Connecticut, which passed a strict gun law after the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, has seen a sharp drop in the number of gun deaths.
In the aftermath of the rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, where 20 children and six educators were killed in 2012, state lawmakers in Connecticut set out to draft some of the toughest gun measures in the country.
They largely succeeded — significantly expanding an existing ban on the sale of assault weapons, prohibiting the sale of magazines with more than 10 rounds and requiring the registration of existing assault rifles and higher-capacity magazines. The state also required background checks for all firearms sales and created a registry of weapons offenders, including those accused of illegally possessing a firearm.
Now, in the wake of another wrenching shooting rampage — this one at a high school in Parkland, Fla., that killed 17 — and in the absence of any federal action, gun-control advocates, Democratic politicians and others are pointing to the success of states like Connecticut in addressing the spiraling toll of gun violence.
Analyses by the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence show that, with few exceptions, states with the strictest gun-control measures, including California, Connecticut, New Jersey and New York, have the lowest rates of gun deaths, while those with the most lax laws like Alabama, Alaska and Louisiana, have the highest.
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Take THAT, foolish and selfish NRA!!!!!
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/how-do-u-s-gun-laws-compare-to-other-countries
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/12/4/9850572/gun-control-us-japan-switzerland-uk-canada
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/4/16418754/gun-control-washington-post
https://www.vox.com/cards/gun-violence-facts/guns-international-comparison-us-homicide
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/
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Yes and we are a free society. I wouldn’t have it any other way. Kids today are enabled by schools- and I work in one so I know. There are no longer consequences- natural or otherwise. They are constantly being coddled and bailed out. Let’s add that we are not teaching them to resolve their own conflicts because we are constantly hovering over them. And yeah- we are not teaching them that it’s ok to disagree with others. We must think one way or we are haters.
Let’s add the increasing pressure brought on by a failed set of educational standards that are seriously flawed. It took many once successful students and made them feel like failures when they couldn’t grasp the concepts or pass the poorly written tests. I’d say guns are the least of this and mental health is the key issue. In this shooting, the young man had pre-existing emotional and psychiatric issues known to the schools, local law enforcement and the FBI. No one did anything about it. So Diane, take you illogical presumptions elsewhere.
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Unbelievable. You blame teachers and schools for these mass shootings.
Let me say to you three names: Scott Beigel, Aaron Feis, Chris Hixon. You dishonor the memories of these brave teachers, who died saving students at Douglas High School.
SHAME ON YOU.
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Veronica’s observations are absolutely believable. You accuse her of blaming teachers and schools for “these mass shootings.” I have been teaching for over 30 years (though on leave at the moment because of a stroke in December), and am now constantly fighting against this trend of coddling and hovering. It is real. I would say it is school leadership that is responsible, and those leaders are seldom if ever working teachers. You seriously believe this babying of young adults, this never making them accept real consequences in middle and high schools, is not a part of what is happening here? I would add that another factor is parents who want to be “friends” rather than parents to their kids.
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“I’d say guns are the least of this and mental health is the key issue. ”
The article that serves as the basis for this blog post explains that, long, thorough research shows without doubt that your assumption above is wrong.
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Why would we seek out every person with mental problems, even as Trump cuts the budget for treatment of people with mental health problems, and yet ignore the easy availability of weapons of mass killing? This is the usual NRA excuse for inaction.
The NRA should hunker down. The survivors of the Killing at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School are organizing a March for Our Lives on March 24 in DC. They have called for communities across the nation to join them in their owtowns and cities. They have the NRA and their stooges on their agenda.
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Veronica,
N Cruz was expelled from MSD HS–they demonstrated there were consequences.
Can you please explain the logical reasoning that schools’ leniency results in students murdering?
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The end of the article is also telling
“In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate. Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over.”
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Add the words “native American” or “slave” before children.
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Poet: I saw this quote online and thought it was perfect. Tump wants more charters, vouchers and vocational schools, none of which will be well funded. This quote is not about gun control but it stands as something important today.
Explains it all:
“In our dream we have limitless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand. The present educational conventions fade from our minds; and, unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or of science. We are not to raise up among them authors, orators, poets, or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians. Nor will we cherish even the humbler ambition to raise up from among them lawyers, doctors, preachers, statesmen, of whom we now have ample supply.”
– Rev. Frederick T. Gates, Business Advisor to John D. Rockefeller Sr., 1913
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Very interesting.
Though it does not appear that Frederick T. Gates is related to Bill, the similarity in their thinking and approach to “philanthropy” is quite striking.
So similar, in fact that it makes me wonder if Bill has actually copied Frederick. It almost seems too much of a coincidence otherwise.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Taylor_Gates
[Frederick] Gates focused exclusively on philanthropy after 1912. He moved Rockefeller from doling out retail sums to specific recipients to the wholesale process of setting up well-funded foundations that were run by experts who decided what topics of reform were ripe. In all Gates supervised the distribution of about $500 million. Although Rockefeller himself believed in folk medicine, the billionaire listened to his experts, and Gates convinced him that he could have the greatest impact by modernizing medicine especially by reforming education, sponsoring research to identify cures, and systematically eradicating debilitating diseases that sapped national efficiency like hookworm.”
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Except Bill doesn’t really believe in science.
But other than that…
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Stop the racist crap. These are dead kids, not props.
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So, it’s racist to point out that America decided a long time ago that it was OK to kill children as long as they are not white?
If it is indeed true that “once America decided killing children was bearable”, then the US gun control “debate” (if indeed it ever occurred) ended long before Sandy Hook.
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The reason we have such lax gun laws is the same reason we now have such lax education laws. $$$ Many representatives do not represent the people. They represent whatever group is supplying them with campaign donations, and the NRA is a big contributor to mostly Republicans. Our only hope is to overturn Citizens United or even call for a constitutional amendment to get the money out of politics. Our current system has been hijacked by special interest groups with lots of money, and the voice of the people is not being heard.
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Bingo, retired teacher.
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Diane,
An interesting approach to safety in schools:
If you plan on committing mass murder at a school, you probably want to stay away from Claude Independent School District in West Texas. The reason? Because there are staffers at each school who carry concealed weapons to protect students.
According to KFDA-TV, Claude ISD implemented a program sometime in 2016 that trained staffers to carry concealed weapons and taught them what to do if ever faced with an active shooter.
“Staff members who carry are required to practice at a shooting range once a month. They also train with the Armstrong County Sheriff’s Office and the Department of Public Safety,” KFDA reported.
The district also places prominent signs on its campuses informing people its schools are definitely not gun-free zones.
“ATTENTION: Please be aware that the staff at Claude ISD is armed and may use whatever force necessary to protect our students,” the signs read.
What’s the net effect?
To put it mildly, staff, students and parents feel much safer with teachers who pack heat and signs warning any would-be shooter. One mother told KFDA she has “peace of mind” about her daughter’s safety at school.
“It makes me feel really, really safe that we have staff on hand if anything happened. It brings me peace of mind,” the mother said.
Students also said they have no reservations about their safety at school knowing there are teachers around them ready to act if push comes to shove.
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Do they carry concealed AR 15s?
If not, they will be slaughtered.
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If I were a kid determined to kill, the teacher would be the first target.
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Karla,
For a reply to “If I were a kid determined to kill, the teacher would be the first target.”
I offer this question –
take 2 schools –
school A is designated “gun free zone” and staff can-t have concealed weapons
school B has a staff known by the students that staff are trained and have the right to carry concealed weapons with signs that indicate such
which school would be the student’s choice?
which school might have less fatalities?
which school had created one more layer of security for your child/granchild
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“which school would be the student’s choice?
which school might have less fatalities?
which school had created one more layer of security for your child/granchild”
Why bother with the hypothesis that if we arm the teachers, there would be less mass shootings in schools, when there is a proven method: ban guns.
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Mate,
The hypothesis was to make a point regarding the possibility/suggested solution that another layer of protection is better than the “ban the gun” – which isn’t going to happen since we live in America with a 2nd and 4th amendment.
There has been the point made here from others that the school would be a “prison”
This problem is beyond guns but is a societal problem.
The Brady Bill – the outcome was not the banning of a gun but created the need for improvements in security which would prevent anyone getting close proximity of the President.
Congress can’t legislate it away . It’s not the fault of the NRA – Many here have directed their responses of who is at fault at the NRA, Republicans, Trump and are now turning a corner and realizing many other issues involved – FBI, local police not following up on reports, mental health etc.
We are told they can’t do anything until the crime has been
committed. That’s what has to change and is going to take some really
smart people to figure how to do that without violating civil liberties and
the Fourth Amendment.. The way we are addressing the issue now – this is totally political.
One of the primary perpetrators pushing a political agenda – the media – prevents us from making any inroads –
it becomes political. The media carries one side of this argument,
the antigun, anti-NRA and they promote anything and anybody that is
promoting that and advocating that.
The latest story making the news is that the NRA donated money so that Cruz could learn to handle a rifle. It was a grant and the ROTC receives money and support also from the military – from supplies for education and teaching staff.
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jscheidell: Why turn all of our schools into high security places whereby hidden guns provide the ‘security’? Why not let teachers battle it out with a shooter and kill more students? It could turn into the OKAY CORRAL in a hallway. Great idea.
Each person who carries a gun also carries a liability to kill and killings, much more will happen, if the just plain number of guns in this country isn’t reduced substantially. Australia had a costly buy-back program that got many guns off the street. Then they passed a very strict gun control law. The result is that their streets are now clear and safe to walk on. Ours won’t be until the stupid, outrageous, overbearing number of guns is reduced.
Our Congress has been bought out by the NRA. These weaklings are afraid of loosing their campaign funds and care nothing about the lives of innocents. There is no other country on the earth that possesses so many guns. We have 40% of the number of guns in the world. Enough is enough. Warm prayers is for those who have nothing useful to say and this country is getting tired of the worn out platitude that means nothing.
Fortunately, the young gun survivors are now speaking out. I HOPE this is the time that the populations shows it outrage at the nonsensical NEED to carry guns.
NO, I would never want my child to attend a school whereby the teachers and maintenance people were carrying guns. I don’t care how concealed nor how trained they were. More guns equates into more killings.
By the end of January we probably will have statistically killed more people than most countries will have done in a decade. That is a guess but it is statistically proven that a higher number of guns equals a higher number of deaths.
I don’t want to live in a country that has everybody armed. I visited Guatemala and school kids there have their bus window blackened and an armed security guard car follows the bus as it drops off or picks up kids. This must be the future that you envision.
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Consistency is not their strong point? How about sanity is not their strong point.
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The US especially needs to totally restrict access to automatic and semiautomatic weapons like the AR-15 that serve no purpose except to massacre people. The US has 40% of the guns in the world. Statistics prove that more guns equals more killings. ‘Thoughts and prayers’ are worthless.
What would have been insanely corrupt political behavior 40 years ago is now ‘normal’. Right-wingers on the Supreme Court made decisions allowing the proliferation of weapons of war inside America with the passage of Citizens United. In 2010 the Supreme Court wrapped its gift to corporations and gun manufacturers with their 5-4 Citizen’s United ruling. After that decision, America was nearly completely turned over to the wealthy and corporations. Oligarchs like Adenson and the Kochs began openly bragging about how much they were spending to buy politicians, legislation, tax breaks, and the deregulation of consumer protections.
The First Amendment rights of corporations is now giving the NRA and other interest groups a lever to use to extract legislation. Senator Todd Young (R-IN) was given $2,896,732 by the NRA and refuses to take action on gun violence. This isn’t a mental health issue. How many in Florida would have been killed with a knife?
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Guns Don’t Kill People —
Doctor Spock Kills People …
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To best answer the question of the post:
Our whole culture/society is dominated by the military death and destruction machine that has killed millions of innocents, hundreds of thousands of innocent children around the world. The “patriots” all applaud and/or look the other way, refuse to acknowledge that killing that dominates this country and its foreign “policy”.
Death and destruction dominate America.
What else can one expect from children who have been well steeped in that violent culture?
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And 99.99% of Americans just bury their head in the sand and then when they do take it out they willingly cheer on that death and destruction.
YES, that is what explains the mass shootings.
And if you don’t understand that, I pity you and your being.
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Duane: No other developed nation comes close to the rate of US gun violence. Americans own an estimated 265m guns, more than one gun for every adult.
Data from the Gun Violence Archive reveals there is a mass shooting – defined as four or more people shot in one incident, not including the shooter – nine out of every 10 days on average.
America has 4.4 percent of the world’s population, but almost half of the civilian-owned guns around the world
We are now militarily involved in 76 countries. I guess we are supposed to be proud of all the killing and destruction. Politicians like it. They won’t vote for any decent gun control laws and just increased the military budget.
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I cannot believe that four or more people are shot in one incident every 9/10 days. That seems wildly inaccurate. But then again if one considers the various gangs wherein wannabes have to either kill or shoot X number of people to be a member in “good” standing, perhaps it is.
Either way do you have a link to that statistic, please.
And again, when the soul is rotten, i.e., the death and destruction machine that is the USofA, one can only expect that rot to infect the citizens.
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Duane:
Mass shootings in the US: there have been 1,624 in 1,870 days
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/02/america-mass-shootings-gun-violence?CMP=share_btn_link
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Thanks for the link! Will check it out.
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Nice visual graphic in that article! Thanks!
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Let us see, just in Memphis (half a million people) after a quick search:
Sept 13, 2017: MPD: 5 people shot, 1 struck by vehicle in North Memphis shooting
Sept 26, 2017: 4 people shot in Memphis barber shop
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Feb 17 2018: Five People Shot Outside Of A North Memphis Nightclub
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Yes, in St. Louis, shootings are a nightly occurance. Same in many urban areas, so perhaps that 9/10 is not so far fetched.
And again, what does one expect in a society that glorifies the death and destruction machine that is the US military. God, guts and glory, eh!
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