If we really wanted to improve our global economic stature, we would invest in more music teachers.
That’s our competitive advantage in global commerce.
I recently returned from a trip to Vietnam, Cambodia, and Shanghai.
At the Park Hyatt Hotel in Saigon, a beautiful Japanese singer entertained each night in the c0mmodious hotel lounge and she sang the great American songbook. She was wonderful! When I requested it, she sang Leonard Cohen’s great “Hallelujah.”
On the cruise on the Mekong River, we had a last night party. The staff, about 36 young Cambodians, dressed in their most gorgeous Cambodian finery and they danced traditional Cambodian dances. Then the music changed to: “The Twist.” Suddenly all the passengers and all the crew–the cooks, the laundresses, the room cleaners, the sailors, the waiters and waitresses–danced together. All status and position disappeared in the joy of dancing to an American oldie. Then the record changed to Bill Haley, and “Rock Around the Clock,” and again Cambodians and Americans shared the fun of the music and the dancing.
In Shanghai, at the elegant Peninsula Hotel, there is a chanteuse with a gorgeous husky voice, and she specialized in American songs. She sang Cole Porter, Jerome Kern, Rodgers and Hammerstein, Billy Joel, Karen Carpenter. All of the Chinese in the room were reading their cell phones–it is a concerning obsessive behavior. We saw a family at breakfast where the mother, the father, and a child about five each had their own cell phones. But back to the singer. She even sang “All That Jazz” from “Chicago.” We applauded enthusiastically, but that doesn’t seem to be the local custom.
American music has a universal audience. Every child who wishes to should have the chance to learn an instrument, sing, dance, enjoy the music that the world loves.

I saw this this morning. Looks like they forgot to program Charles Ives.
R.
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“Invest in the future!”
Invest in Kanye West!
Invest in Lady Gaga!
The singing that is best
And makes the whole world gaga.
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At my school in Lower Manhattan, the music teacher was “excessed” (an NYCDOE barbarism for “laid off”) in an act of pure personal pique by the principal…
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I would invite folks to sample this site – “Peace through Music” About – Playing for Change
https://playingforchange.com/about/ – 140k
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Music is the universal language that brings people together. It is pathetic in a country with considerable resources that music and art teachers should be on the chopping block. This is shortsighted as music heals the heart and helps mend the soul, and art gives young people an opportunity at self expression.
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Include music and art education as part of a well rounded education. To expose children to something they may enjoy or want to pursue. But it would be a losing battle to assert that the 20 billion in M&E exports are a significant part of the 2.2 Trillion in US exports .
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Whether you count music as an economic unit or not, whether it raises the GDP or not, it is the purest finest expression of our culture and it covers the world.
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Which is the reason it should be included in the education of our youth . The corporate reformers want to portray education as a solely economic issue . We don’t have to play their game by their rules. Justifying what we do because of its economic value, like democrats screaming about debt is a lose lose. A cry that will be used by the right ,as an excuse to cut programs, not raise taxes .
Music and the arts should be taught because of its value to humanity, not because of its economic value. .
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I thought our competitive advantage was in fraudulent financial ” instruments”.
But I guess you could class that as music.
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Diane: “American music has a universal audience. Every child who wishes to should have the chance to learn an instrument, sing, dance, enjoy the music that the world loves.”
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How I wish Americans believed music is important. I go to the Chicago Symphony and see gray haired older people as the majority of the audience.
I taught elementary music in Chicago Heights, IL for 12 years. They didn’t pass a referendum, lost by 6 votes, and music was cut. I was offered a 4th grade classroom position but there was no planning time. The 4th grade teacher across the hall from me offered to take all 50 kids for an hour of art (doubling up at their desks) and I was to take all 50 for an hour of music.
I came to my assigned school and set up the seating chart and arranged the room. I left before classes started and got a job at another district in Hazel Crest, IL and stayed there one year. From then on I moved to four districts total before leaving the country for good and started working as a music 4-6 music teacher and 7-12 band teacher in Bolivia.
I was too high on the pay scale to be kept. One district in Frankfort, IL had a tenured music teacher tell me that I was the 8th music teacher who had been fired. It was cheaper to keep firing us than to give anyone tenure and have us creep up the pay scale.
Music doesn’t count and our society is suffering from lack of culture that can be taught in the schools. Underfunding means art and music go first. Creativity and love of learning are ‘out the window’. How sad.
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It would be interesting to see what relationship, if any, exists between counties and districts that have cut back teaching the arts in recent years, and those that have shifted their voting toward the Republicans.
We already know that declines in union density lead to increases in Republican votes; it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if starved arts budgets lead to the same.
After all, Trump is utterly soulless, as are many other Repug elected officials, and to them the arts are just a waste of time, diverting people from the “freedom” to prey on others.
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Wow, that stinks, carolmalaysia. And sounds like that happened in the Chicago area starting in about 2008, i.e., the year of the fin collapse, right? Are you still teaching in Bolivia?
Here in central NJ, there are still plenty of Americans who value music. The regional prof orch packs local houses w/all ages at their 6-concert series.
We have many community orchs, bands, choruses. My husb & I are among the gray-haired amateur performing ‘corps’ – he is in 1 jazz band & 3 concert bands; I am in 3 choral groups. Granted our audiences are not huge & are mostly gray-haired, but the prof. chamber orch’s my choral groups hire incl many 30-&-under. And my musician sons fill their non-working time performing around the metro-NY/NJ area on the very active millennial music scene at clubs, house parties et al venues.
School-wise here, for langs get cut back first, not music. Hard-up districts cut elem for-lang first, then drop a lang from mid/hisch, then dump art-room in favor of teacher w/mobile cart – but 4th-12th music stays robust. They even added a ‘B-level’ jazz band at the hisch 4 yrs ago. Theater/ Drama is also well-supported in hisch, & Dance at the county vo-tech/magnet complex.
I expect this is because we are at the juncture of easy commutes to top-notch orch/ band/ opera/ theatre in NYC/ Newark/ Princeton/ Philly, which tends to support existing & spawn new venues for amateur, semi-pro & prof perfmmorming arts. It costs too much to live here, but there are definitely perqs!
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As a NJ music teacher, I contend that we have some bustling programs and some so-so ones. It is regional, in my experience. The closer to NY and Philly, the better the options because students have access to pros nearby for private lessons and other extra group experiences. The schools tend to be more competitive in these areas.
For elementary music teachers, we provide a prep for the classroom teachers, so unless preps get taken away (thanks to possible ramifications from the impending Janus decision), we will always have jobs, but that doesn’t mean we are all treated with respect.
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Thanks for chiming in, LG. It is hard for me to relate to anyone who could toss aside music, much less undervalue its purveyors to our elem kids – every ounce of music injected into the curriculum brightens their day. When I was little (upstsate-NY rural sch, ’50’s), a music teacher visited weekly. But there was a piano in each 2-grade classroom, & the teachers could play, so we sang songs every day. That was a ‘meh’ program worth its wt in gold.
I figured our bubble was charmed mostly due to location/ publ transp. & not only schoolkids benefit. Our gray-haired community choral groups have directors who went to Juilliard, Peabody etc, & the community bands are dotted w/folks who made their living as performing musicians. Even my ladies group that sings for asstd-liv folks has a member’s aged dad who was a Tin-Pan Alley man, he arranges our favorite songs.
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As a Tennessean, I would like to point out that our state has contributed to all three of the great paradigms of popular music. Memphis and the blues morphing into rock and roll, Bristol and the fiddle, Nashville and the guitar songwriting crowd. That is why we chose the back of our quarter several years ago.
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Roy,
Tennessee has a lot to be proud of, especially its music. Also, the parents fighting against the dark forces trying to privatize their public schools.
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In 2015, the State School Board of Ohio eliminated the minimum school staffing standards for music teachers and other school professionals. That hasn’t deterred these dedicated educators who celebrated public education at the Ohio Statehouse during the governor’s so-called school choice week.
https://publiceducationpartners.org/2018/02/05/celebrate-public-education/
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Inspiring! That article should be in the NYT!
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I can appreciate where you’re coming from, but I think it’s more than music. America’s biggest, most influential export is culture in general — music, movies, TV shows, visual art, architecture, fashion, even certain attitudes.
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I’m not sure it’s possible to ever forget this, but it’s important to remember the immeasurable debt that American music owes to African Americans. When we talk about “American music,” we aren’t talking about the Cleveland symphony. American music is above all “popular” music, and virtually every sub-genre of popular music traces its lineage, directly or indirectly, to African-American musicians: blues, jazz, “big band,” R&B, rock-and-roll, hip hop, rap. Perhaps even country (I’ve heard the argument, though I’m no historian of music). I have nothing against the symphony or the opera. But American music thrived in clubs and dance halls and on street corners, to be enjoyed by people of all social classes. It’s little wonder it spread like wildfire across the globe.
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Very true. From buck dancing to hip hop, from Dan Emment and his Virginia Minstrels, imitation of African reactions to music in their new home has created American popular tradition in a large sense.
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Thank you, yes.
In fact, when you think about it, most of the things that redeem this country have been created by African-Americans and immigrants.
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I think the Cherokee Dragging Canoe might want you to define immigrants. But I know what you mean.
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I might have to challenge you on that statement as, although little known, Native Americans contributed quite a few things that we incorporated into “American” culture.
And I am not one to totally denigrate Western European culture as a negative influence. As Rubén Blades sings in Conmemorando, his take on the 500 year anniversary of Columbus’s stumbling upon the “New World”.
Positivo y negativo
Se confunden en la herencia
Del 1492.
Hoy, sin ánimo de ofensa
Hacia el que distinto piensa,
Conmemoro. Pero sin celebración.
Positive and negative
Come together in the heritage
of 1492.
Today, without desire to offend
those who think differently,
I commemorate. But without celebrating.
For those who haven’t heard the song:
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YES! AND… Afro-American music is great because it’s our ground-zero [historically] diaspora music. It is & always has been malleable to fusion with whatever culture it encounters. I am thinking now of my 2nd-gen-Italian-American husband’s grandpop, who sang 3-part-harmony on the street corners in Naples before he came here in the 19-aughts at age 17… that music fused in NYC w/street-corner Afro-American harmonizing, which jumped the racial bridge in the early ’50’s to become white-guy Doo-Wop, & very soon thereafter, bi-racial Rock’nRoll.
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I’m fairly certain that the banjo is originally from African American music.
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That’s actually what I was thinking of when I mentioned country music.
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Given that all humans have their roots in Africa, it’s no exaggeration to say that ALL human music came out of Africa –as did everything else.
“Lucy Rocked!”
Lucy beat the stick
On log, as drumming pad
She might have been a hick
But man, her beat was rad
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I guess all human music ultimately comes from the Big Bang.
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“Big Bang Music”
The Big Bang made no sound
Cuz air did not inhere
So music wasn’t ’round
For even God to hear
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Is formal education in music needed? Does anyone who is not deeply connected to any one of the many varieties of the arts care?
I look at this conversation as an occasion to offer a brief report on arts education in this nation’s schools.
National data on arts education in public schools is scant and often contradictory, especially at the high school level where graduation credits may seem to be required, but are nested with eight or ten other options. Here is the latest on state policies.
17 States specify arts education as a requirement for schools to be accredited-
19 States require state-, district- or school-level assessment of student learning in the arts
20 States provide funding for an arts education grant program or a state-funded school for the arts
26 States include arts courses as an option to fulfill graduation requirements
29 States define the arts in statute or code as a core or academic subject-
44 States require course credits in the arts for high school graduation
45 States require districts or schools to offer arts instruction at the elementary school level
45 States require districts or schools to offer arts instruction at the middle school level
45 States require districts or schools to offer arts instruction at the high school level
49 States have adopted early childhood or prekindergarten arts education standards
50 States have adopted elementary and/or secondary arts education standards
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/statereform/tab2_18.asp
There is a national test in the arts, sort of, now and then. Curious? Some 8th grade questions from the most recent National Assessment of Educational Progress in the Arts are available online. These assessments have been administered about once a decade since the 1970s, but not in a manner that offers information about trends.
The most recent NAEP tests have been limited to grade 8 where many students are not enrolled in art. The tests are also limited to visual arts and music. Theater and dance are infrequently offered and also have been judged too expensive to assess. Of all the data gathered by the NAEP testing, the most interesting comes from the background questions included in the booklets. You can see these questions here https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/subject/field_pubs/sqb/pdf/2016_sqb_g8_a.pdf
If you are interested in the most recent results from “the Nation’s Art Report Card” see https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/arts_2016/ (As usual SES has a bearing on access to arts education).
In prior NAEP assessments, I found that a majority of the nation’s students had no arts education in schools beyond the 7th grade, usually a half-year or less with a certified art teacher. In addition, the less opportunity for arts education in schools the more likely that community arts organizations try to offer grants-based programs for school-age groups. These programs are usually short-term gigs with artists visiting schools, or programs offered after school, weekends, and during the summer (e.g., art camps).
Although some of these community grants come from local foundations, a mainstay since 1965 has been a flow of funds from the National Endowment for the Arts to state arts agencies where underemployed artists may list themselves as available for a program in schools. It is a mistake to think that such programs are free to schools. The arts council usually picks up the fees charged by artists who enter schools in some capacity as “educators.” Almost always, schools must provide all program-related materials and supplies (e.g., if a mosaic or mural artist works in the school, the materials and support needed must be funded by the school). In Ohio, an “artists residency” can be for 36 weeks. This means a residency can be used as an alternative to hiring a certified arts teacher. http://www.oac.ohio.gov/News-Events/OAC-News/ArticleId/76/new-arts-learning-grant-program
The bean counters are a work on figuring out the per-student cost of teaching every subject at every grade level, and some of the “extracurricular activities” in many schools. If you can stand it, one example of that reasoning is here. The reasoning leads to the conclusion that money can be saved by doubling up on class sizes, offer courses online, and just outsourcing education–with music one example. https://www.crpe.org/publications/breaking-down-school-budgets-following-dollars-classroom
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(A)”Is formal education in music needed?”
(B)”Does anyone who is not deeply connected to any one of the many varieties of the arts care?”
(A) seems an odd question: what is ‘informal’ music ed? Does that mean sans teacher – learn on youtube, & if you have no internet, too bad for you? But in context, I assume this means, do we need formal music ed in publschs? If one values music ed as a universal benefit, formal ed is reqd. Only because choral, orch, & band music are group endeavors. In order to implement group performance, formal music ed is reqd in order to bring ind skill [even if only – à la Suzuki method- playing one note at appropriate moments] to the level reqd to perform as a group.
(B) One [parent, admin, taxpayer] does not need to be connected at any deep level to the arts to care. There are too many studies to cite here attesting to the boost music studies give to any academic endeavor involving symbolic systems [i.e., reading & math]. Not to mention the parallels to athletics – coordination of skills/ team-building, so prized in the workplace.
The only conclusion to be drawn is that formal music ed should start in K, not be put off until 4th-grade.
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I recall a speaker at a League of Cities meeting in Sacramento, CA stating that music and art are responsible for thinking outside the box. Math, science are not using the side of the brain that we need to be creative.
All schools should require music and art as they do math and science. Creativity is the key!
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I was under the impression that music fired up the logical side of the brain, explaining why so many engineer types have music as a hobby.
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“The Right/Left Brain Debate”
The left brain’s for conserving
The right brain is for spending
The logic here is swerving
If not to say, upending
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Your math-brain types are rational & logical, & glom onto the theory/ structure of music – which, with study & practice, will release them into the improvisations & innovations inherent in a deep understanding of the circle-of-fifths/ scales. These are the guys who make jazz.
Your articulate verbal types glom onto the symbolic system of music – they transpose quickly from reading to reading music, & [given some dexterity w/ivories or buttons or fret/ fretless string positions], soon find themselves able to duplicate the voice of their angels.
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Music inspires us to think outside the music box
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“Math, science are not using the side of the brain that we need to be creative.”
Can’t agree with that statement at all.
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Agreed, Duane. The arts use mathematical and scientific concepts, and there is beauty in math and science. All you need to do is look at the structure of a crystal to know this.
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I think your speaker was wrong – there are just as many verbal types [as math/ science types] whose left-brain editors censor their creative instincts. Everyone needs music [and fine-arts] to help them think outside the box.
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How can we have a music thread with no music?
How about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bHWhbu_mbk
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Love the guit-steel. I’ve seen Junior play many times. Consummate showman, fantastic player.
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You got me in the mood for the Telecaster, Duane. Here’s my favorite player, doing one of my favorite songs for the Tele.
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Following Duane’s lead, here is what I consider among the greatest examples of “American music,” from a man I consider the greatest American singer, produced at the end of his life and near the zenith of American R&B.
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OK, just gotta enter my musician kids in here. Here’s eldest’s group 5 yrs ago [he’s vocal harmonics, & guitar & synth] — he’s doing other stuff now [gotta record contract! & working/ teaching at a school/ recording studio]… have to say [as a singer], didn’t know this one could sing (much less harmonize) till I heard him in this group of local original songsters…
And here’s youngest, from a an original song album few yrs ago. [Currently plays in a new band w/elder bro, & teaches piano locally]:
https://charlesloren.bandcamp.com/album/lost-and-fine
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[that’s him singing, & all the imstruments/ production are him too]
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bethree5: I loved the music. What talent resides in your family!!! Thanks for posting this.
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