Yong Zhao was born and educated in China. He has studied Chinese and American education for many years. He is currently “a Foundation Distinguished Professor in the School of Education at the University of Kansas, as well as a professorial fellow at the Mitchell Institute for Health and Education Policy at Victoria University in Australia, and a global chair at the University of Bath in the United Kingdom.” His honors and awards are too numerous to list.
He recently saw an article in the Wall Street Journal titled “Why American Students Need Chinese Schools.” He knows from personal experience and research that this is a dreadful idea.
In this article, he explains why Chinese schools are not a model for our schools..
The article in the WSJ was written by Lenora Chu, a journalist who sent her son to one of the best schools in China. The book–“Little Soldiers: An American Boy, a Chinese School, and the Global Race to Achieve”–recalls the one about Chinese Tiger moms that was a bestseller a few years ago.
Zhao writes:
“I would have easily discarded the article for its ludicrous title if I had not read the galley of the book before. I did not see any convincing evidence in the book that supports the proposal that American students need Chinese schools. Quite to the contrary, I understood the book as further evidence for not importing Chinese schools into America.
“Little Soldiers is far from a love affair with Chinese schools as the title of the Wall Street Journal article suggests. It is, rather, a vivid portrayal of an outdated education model that does serious and significant damage.
“Chu and her husband are American journalists living in Shanghai. They enrolled their son Rainey in a local Chinese school. The book is a journalistic recount of her observations of the experience and her personal interactions with the school as well as with parents, teachers, students, education leaders, and scholars in China and elsewhere.
“Rainey’s experience in Soong Qing Ling, easily one of the best schools in Shanghai, which has perhaps the best schools in China, once again exposes the problems of Chinese education: rigid, authoritarian, and unhealthy competition. He was force-fed eggs by his teacher; he was silenced during lunch; he was rewarded for sitting still and mute; he was told to compete to become No. 1 because there was no reward for second place. He was not allowed to ask questions, and he learned that the teacher and the school have unquestionable authority. His family hired private tutors and spent breakfast time taking tests.
“Using threats as motivational tool is common in Chinese education. Chu calls the Chinese “world-class experts at fear-based motivation.” It works but it can have serious consequences. Rainey became afraid. He once asked his father if he’d be taken away by the police if he did not take a nap because the teacher in school threatened that if he did not nap as required, the police would take him away.
“Chu also reports that her son became afraid of other things associated with school: being late, missing class, or disappointing the teacher.
“As a coping strategy, Rainey learned to lie, to fake. He learned to fake a cough when he wanted water in class because he discovered that was most effective way to get to drink water without irritating the teacher.
“Chu was fully aware of the problems of Chinese schooling. She does not have Stockholm syndrome. She is a caring mother, a reflective journalist, and a curious observer. She, of course, wants the best for her child, as any mother would. The best for her is the “exact middle” between academic rigor and play, serious academic studying and enjoying what life has to offer in sports, arts, leisure, literature, drama, and comedy.
“It was apparent that the Chinese school was tilting too much toward one end. So the couple devised a countermeasure to mitigate the negative effects of Chinese schooling.
“Unlike many Chinese parents who typically have to reinforce what the school does at home, Chu and her husband decided to provide a very different experience for their child. They allowed him to make his own decisions, filled his environment with choices, provided him with art supplies, took him to museums, played soccer and tennis with him, and involved him in other activities for the sole purpose of leisure. Essentially, they created an American experience for their boy at home…
“The lessons Chu distilled from Chinese schooling are not new. Many before her have shared the same message: authority and rigidity are virtuous and should be adopted by American schools.
“In essence, she wants teachers as an unquestioned authority. She writes in her Wall Street Journal article: “[H]aving the teacher as an unquestioned authority in the classroom gives students a leg up in subjects such as geometry and computer programming, which are more effectively taught through direct instruction (versus student-led discovery) …”
“She also believes that rigidity is an educational advantage: “The reason is simple: Classroom goals are better served if everyone charges forward at the same pace. No exceptions, no diversions,” Chu writes in the article.
“Furthermore, Chu believes the sufferings delivered by the Chinese authoritarian, high pressure, and rigid education are nothing more than rigor.
“China’s school system breeds a Chinese-style grit, which delivers the daily message that perseverance — not intelligence or ability — is key to success” because the Chinese believe hard work trumps innate talent when it comes to academics, she wrote.
“In essence, Chu believes American education is not authoritarian enough, not rigid enough, and not demanding enough in comparison to education in China. She is not alone…
“As much as I enjoyed the book and admired Chu’s courage for sending her son to a Chinese school, I don’t see an authoritarian and rigid education as meritorious. As someone who has experienced both Chinese and American education as a student and teacher and an educational researcher for nearly three decades, I have learned that such a system results in unproductive successes — outcomes that appear appealing in the short term but result in long term irreparable damages. Something I call the side effects of education, akin to the side effects of medicine. In this case, the side effects are so severe that the medicine should not be approved.”
“Force-fed learning,” Zhao writes, is nothing to emulate.

Thank you, Diane for this post.
Dr. Yong Zhao is RIGHT.
Here’s a bit about Interview with Yong Zhao published in Ed. Week: http://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/living-in-dialogue/2012/05/yong_zhao_in_conversation.html
YSR: Thank you, Dr. Zhao. Once you told me a great idiom from China called, “Yin Zhen Zhi Ke: Drinking poison to quench thirst.” Would you please explain why you used this Chinese idiom when speaking about American education?
YZ: Well, the Chinese saying is to warn people not to take measures that may appear to solve an urgent problem in the short term but in effect the solution is more damaging than the problem.
YSR: I read the story about this proverb and it does make sense. Thanks, Dr. Zhao, for taking the time to do this interview. Is there anything else you would like to say to your readers? What would you say to teachers, parents, and students?
YZ: Education is much broader and longer than what can be measured with a single test at a given time. Life is long and children are different. A good education is one that liberates, empowers, and enhances individuals, not one that imposes and instills what external agencies believe individuals should learn. Education is different from indoctrination.
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This school sounds a lot like the Success Academy in New York with one notable exception….the teachers are berated as much as the students.
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“…he was told to compete to become No. 1 because there was no reward for second place.”
So by that standard, a Chinese graduating class of 1,000 contains 1 success & 999 failures, a 0.1% success rate. Why would schools in America or anywhere want to emulate that?
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Amen. I recently taught at a highschool that prided itself on its “A Rating” from the state of Florida.
My students all had eight classes following a block schedule. They would get up at the morning at 6:00 in order to be at school at 7:30, though they were teenagers, and all the research shows that they need, for their physical and psychological development, to be sleeping in the morning. They would sit in one class for an hour and a half, get up for three minutes, and go sit in another. The three minutes was just barely enough time to get from one class to another and certainly not time enough to get something to drink, interact with a friend, or go to the bathroom without being late, for which they were supposed to receive detention. They had twenty minutes for lunch. If they ate the school lunch, they spent ten of these standing in line.
Every teacher was required to post homework for the day on his or her whiteboard, so every day, the student had, heading home from that grueling schedule, at least a couple hours worth of assigned work. Every teacher was required to post two grades each week for each student, so each of those students had 16 graded assignments every week–144 or 160 per quarter. Complicated rules required that a significant percentage of these be major work–tests, quizzes, and projects. In addition to or in place of their final exams, each faced standardized tests in Reading, Writing, Mathematics, U.S. History, and Biology, some of which they had to pass in order to graduate. In addition, they had mandatory pretests, interim or benchmark tests, and online practice. Testing alone, and practice for tests, took up a good third of the school year.
The consequences of all this? Teachers, amusingly, were required to implement various education-school acronyms like R.A.C.E.: Reflect and restate. Answer. Cite Evidence. As if any student, under such circumstances, had time or energy for reflection. They were most all harried, stressed, burned out, most of the time.
Plutarch says in his Moralia (the idea is often misattributed to Yeats or Shaw) that education should be the lighting of a fire, not the filling of a bucket. This oft-repeated phrase is as often misunderstood. People think it means that learning facts about the world doesn’t matter, which is purest idiocy. What is does mean is that our prime directive as educators must be to create the circumstances in which students can jack into parts of our cultural heritages (note the plural) that blow their minds and make them WANT MORE so that they become independent, self-motivated, life-long learners. The students in our classes today will see more change in their lifetimes than occurred in all of human history to this point. They will need to be flexible, intrinsically motivated learners.
This next April, try a little experiment. Put off doing your taxes until 10 in the evening on April 15. Then, set to work on them. At the same time, try reading with appreciation and understanding a poem by Tagore or Rumi or exploring the manifold mysteries of Pascal’s Triangle. Do this four hours’ sleep the night before. See if that seems to you a sensible model for education.
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cx: Pascal’s pyramid
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Pyramid, triangle. Just depends on your perspective. From the top or bottom, it’s just a square (or for a triangle, a line). What did Pascal know, anyway? He wasn’t on a block schedule at an A rating school. (Sarcasm alert is now obligatory.)
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No bottom GregB, my brother. It is as infinite as you or I.
Pyramid for my comment, above, because it’s more complex. The 3D version of Pascal’s Triangle, which is 2D.
But you knew that.
Yup, poor Pascal, he was too busy dooling in math class.
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“… rigid, authoritarian and unhealthy…”
An excellent description of what so-called reformers are aggressively seeking to impose on every classroom in the US (except for those with their own children).
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Exactly. The WSJ editorial board loves the harsh discipline at Success Academy and other “no excuses” penal camps.
I wonder how many of the members of that editorial board have their own children in Chinese-style re-education schools?
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I’m sorry you don’t agree with important things in this article. “Chinese-style grit, which delivers the daily message that perseverance — not intelligence or ability — is key to success” because the Chinese believe hard work trumps innate talent when it comes to academics,” –
The fact that innate talent is so rare should be a starting point. 99% of success is luck and perserverance. Everyone else just complains.
When will the ed community wake up to self discovery rarely happening without knowledge.
There needs to be a balance.
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Yong Zhao is not diminishing the importance of knowledge. He is criticizing the use of harsh discipline and fear. Harsh discipline and fear do not increase knowledge. That is not the method employed at our nation’s best private schools.
Emily Talmadge wrote in a post that I put up this morning that she and Mark Zuckerberg were students at an elite academy where there were 12 students to one teacher. Nothing about harsh punishments.
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And what about the suicide rate in China? I just read an article this morning about a Principal in China grabbing a school girl as she jumped over the edge of a 6 story building. He saved her life….for what? more rigor, more damage. A child desperate enough to commit suicide at school and probably because of school….that’s sickening.
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Despite China’s modernization and change, they continue to steal patents and plans on-line rather than innovate. America continues to innovate despite all the bashing of our public education system. I would wouldn’t think that ‘The Wall Street Journal” would want us to emulate a country that is know for the piracy of intellectual property.
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Correction: known
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How surprising that the Wall Street Journal would promote those who get ahead by stealing.
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This is a rather perfect example of the difference between the left and right or liberal vs. conservative in present day America. Reduced to its most basic, it is the conflict between the authoritarian (Christian conservative) “father knows best” model of the right and the authoritative (science based) “follow the evidence and facts” model of the left.
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George Lakoff has written about this dichotomy.
He describes it as the difference between right and left, between liberals and conservatives.
Those on the right, he say, believe in the “father knows best” model. There is right and wrong, and one should be punished for making the wrong choice.
Those on the left, he says, believe that education should be nurturing and holistic, should teach children to question, not to parrot the “right” answers to questions.
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False dichotomy here. Sometimes we have a choice between a multitude of things, not just two. Most of the time in fact. Many students need more than just a gentle nudge. Others need a swift kick. Still others need an open field in which to run about madly. There are reasonable voices who want more authoritarian approaches, but they never advocate hostile behavior. Hostility is reserved for the dysfunctional. There are reasonable voices who want more freedom. They never advocate anarchy.
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False dichotomy is right. We lapse into stereotypes here. Lakoff’s writing encourages this. I am a leftist who incorporates a lot of play into my teaching. However when I am giving direct instruction I want quick and unquestioning compliance –not because I am a control freak, but because I have finite energy and brainpower and I want to devote every bit of it to making the knowledge I’m conveying as lucid (and appetizing) as possible. Kids’ socializing or foot-dragging –not to mention outright subversion –at these times is usually utterly gratuitous and ultimately bad for themselves and the group. I liken my situation to that of a white water river guide who needs his passengers to paddle exactly as he commands to keep the boat from capsizing. If we can acknowledge that this guide is not a fascist tyrant, then maybe liberals can allow that an imperious teacher steering kids through a lesson is not necessarily a fascist tyrant.
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The belief that Chinese-style authoritarianism is a model for America is far more common on the Left than on the Right. NYT columnist Thomas Friedman preaches this theme many times every year. Your pal Lloyd openly stated that America has much to learn from China.
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Thomas Friedman is not my mentor.
Last time I looked, the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal was not a leftist bunch. They love Eva Moskowitz’s harsh methods and they frequently hold up Chinese schools as superior to American education.
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I’ll resist the urge to comment on this one. Way too easy.
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John Webster
If Thomas Friedman is a lefty , than I must be to the left of Frederick and Carl. Friedman is a neo-liberal we used to call that a Republican when Ron and Margret ran the world . We may have a lot to learn from China but that does not mean that Lloyd was asserting it was to emulate their educational system .
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“that does not mean that Lloyd was asserting it was to emulate their educational system”
LOL
I didn’t assert that the U.S. should emulate their educational system. Where did I say that? I was talking about Amy Chua and her memoir.
The Chinese sent teams to the U.S. in the late 1980s and into the 1990s to study what we were doing in our public schools and they took a lot of what they learned back to China and used that to improve their educational system in Shanghai but that doesn’t mean their schools became copycats of ours.
They learned what they thought worked best and then blended it with their education system that came from the British. In the 19th century, a man called Robert Hart went to China in 1854 to become an interpreter for the British consulate in one of China’s cities. After a few years, Hart quit that job and went to work for China’s emperor. One of the things he did was to model China’s schools after the British Empire’s schools of that time. By the time he left China decades later, he was the most powerful westerner in China’s history.
So, the educational system we see in China today started out following the Confucian model with high stakes tests reaching back to the Han Dynasty before the birth of JC; then changed under Robert Hart to become more like the autocratic, robotic, industrial schools of the 19th century in the UK, and now what Chinese educators learned from the U.S. public schools has been added to the mix.
No, the U.S. should NOT … NOT … NOT … model our schools after China. What we should do is look at Finland and model them.
I can’t count the number of times I’ve said that in comments here but I have never said the U.S. should model our schools after China.
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Thomas Friedman a member of the Left?
That’s a good one!
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John Webster,
I never said we have a lot to learn from China. Show me where I said that.
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I tutored a middle school student from Shanghai. He HATED going to school in Shanghai. He told me that when it would rain, he’d get himself wet hoping he would get sick and NOT have to go to school. Then ONE DAY, he just rebelled and stopped going to school. He also told me that he liked his teachers at the Middle school he attended here and thought they were amazing teachers. When I asked him, “WHY?” His response was simple, “I couldn’t speak much English and couldn’t read and write in English and my teachers don’t speak Mandarin or any Chinese at all, but they taught me how to read, write, and speak English in a good way…NO TESTS!
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I like that Zhou does not caricature Chu and acknowledges that Chu’s account of Chinese schools is nuanced. I wish more people could talk about school discipline with nuance and not just in black and white terms. And above all I wish that liberals would actually acknowledge that gratuitous misbehavior is a big issue in American public schools. They overlook it as completely as evangelical Christians overlook Trump’s p**** grabbing.
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“serious academic studying and enjoying what life has to offer in sports, arts, leisure, literature, drama, and comedy”
“the one about Chinese Tiger moms that was a bestseller a few years ago”
That book about Tiger moms was Amy Chua’s memoir. It was called “Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother”. My wife grew up in China and we heard Chua speak when she came to Berkeley where Amy Chua was raised by her parents. Her father, also a tiger parent, taught math at Berkeley.
The Washington Post or The Wall Street Journal interviews Chua and reviewed the book. When the piece ran, it had a very combative headline that caused the controversy that led to death threats for Amy Chua.
Chua’s oldest daughter launched a Blog to defend her mother against many baseless claims, and it was through that blog that we learn how misleading the controversy was. That quote at the top of my comment pretty much describes the education that Amy Chua wanted for her children but with strict rules and parents that often said no.
The Telegraph ran a follow-up in 2016: Whatever happened to the original tiger mom’s children?
Chua’s older daughter Sophia recently graduated from Harvard to start a postgraduate law degree at Yale. … Both her daughters are so polite, modest and thoughtful, it seems Amy has had the last laugh at the critics who predicted they would grow up into mentally ill, friendless robots. …
Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother never has been a how-to guide on getting your children into the world’s most elite institutions. Instead, it is a complex account of how children can become rebellious and alienated when one-size-fits-all education philosophies are applied, regardless of their personality or aptitudes. …
In fact, far from the bootcamp described in the book, both sisters paint a far rosier picture of their upbringing and say the strict regimentation was always balanced with plenty of support.
“We are a close family,” says Lulu. “Even when there was a lot of screaming, that was work. When it was over, that was family time and we’d go upstairs and watch movies together. …
In her most recent book, The Triple Package, it is Amy (Chua) herself who points out that hothoused Asian-American children often feel like miserable instruments of their parents’ ambition.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/whatever-happened-to-the-original-tiger-mums-children/
The first memoir and her latest books are both worth reading as is this pice in the Telegraph.
Sophia Chua, the oldest daughter, called her blog, A New Tiger in Town, and today it is only open to invited readers. When she launched it, the blog was open to everyone.
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Aren’t the children being raised to adapt to a state that supresses individuality?
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They are being educated to obey and conform.
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This article claims to put down US pubschs but actually says nothing about them. Mainland Chinese families– just like those in Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, Korea, & Japan– all supplement their govt-pd pubschs w/ tuitionschs to add a few hrs cramming to the pubsch sched so as to plump their kids’ scores on stdzd tests reqd for admission into each level of school entry.
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Over the years I have met a few women who went through school in China. Some were very bright and highly educated (PhDs at American or Canadian institutions) and some were just average folks. None of them had anything good to say about their experience in the school system in China. Some were sent out of the country by their families(to Australia, US, Canada) to complete their educations because they were unable to cope with school in China.
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