A retired teacher shared the story of Mike a Pence’s role in transforming the schools of Indiana:
Our former governor, Mike Pence, absolutely loves vouchers.Under his “leadership” Indiana became a national leader in giving vouchers to students and families. In fact, we have the dubious reputation of being one of the fastest-growing voucher states. We have a ridiculous merit pay system where highly-effective teachers in the wealthy Carmel-Clay school system received a bonus check of $2422, whereas highly-effective teachers in the poorer school system of Wayne Township a few miles away received $42. Because of Pence and the Republican legislature, many schools in areas of high poverty are struggling financially. I retired from Muncie Community Schools where I was offered an early retirement incentive of staying on the teacher health insurance plan until I turned 65. Hundreds of other employees and I took the “bait” and were promptly dropped from the plan, leaving us without health insurance. Now because of the inequitable funding to schools (and because of a new local superintendent who doesn’t appear to like teachers much), the school board has made its final contract offer to teachers (as reported in our local newspaper, the Star Press):
• A 10 percent reduction in salary for teachers making between $36,005 and
$61,006 for 2015-16.
• A 28 percent cut, including a 20 percent reduction in salary retroactive to July 1,
2016 and the cancellation of two pay checks in the 2016-17 contract.
• Contributing a fixed total to insurance premiums, equal to about 68 percent to the
health insurance option
• Eliminating sick bank contributions
• Eliminating additional pay for teaching a sixth period
• Eliminating the $150 professional development stipend for teachers
• Eliminating retiree benefits
• A one-time salary raise to the minimum of $37,000 for any teacher currently
making less
Thank you, Vice-President Pence, for ruining the teaching profession in Muncie and in the entire state of Indiana.

Is there any evidence of resegregation resulting from charters or vouchers.
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Your comment is off-topic. I wonder why you posted it here. In addition, your question should end with a question mark.
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How is his comment off topic? (question mark…) The author discusses the fact that Indiana has become the voucher state. Questions about vouchers seem appropriate.
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Bill….I have a thread at the st. louis post dispatch, a place where an employee named Beth O’Malley claims she is the one who has blocked my comments after stories and editorials, but I am allowed to post comments on Current Affairs.
Because I believe the post dispatch does not do a very thorough job of reporting about education, I wrote a letter to the editor, in which I suggested if they have room for a soccer forum, including the subject of spending millions of dollars on a new stadium, they should make room for one for more complete discussions of education. There was one response to my letter, written by a conservative woman named Carol. She was supportive of what I said, but took it a step beyond…she felt there should be room for a forum dedicated to health care issues.
Since I am barred by Beth from responding to my own letter, I responded to Carol by starting a thread on Current affairs, supporting her idea of wanting a forum to discuss health care. I thanked her for her response, and pretended that I had heard that the pd was not impressed with my idea about having an education forum, but they like her idea of having a health care forum. I kept up the pretense long enough to post an article from the New Yorker to get things started, and told her I was just making it up that they were going to have a healthcare forum. No one responded and there were just 8 views. I bumped it up by saying the thread would not be complete without dedicating a song by St. Louis legend Chuck Berry. “Carol”. The song has an amazing history, including being covered by the rolling stones in 1964, and the beatles in 1963, and there is a scene in which Chuck stops keith richards and makes him learn how to play a key phrase on his guitar correctly. I furnished video.
By this time the people were contributing comments about Chuck, and healthcare, and Carol, who is familiar to many people because of her commentaries….better than most conservatives from my point of view. Instead of 8 views, there were now 191.
Yes Bill, sometimes I veer just a bit off the subject and I apologize for any offense. If we had an editing feature, I might have caught the period mistake. I thought Eilene had a valid point, because resegregation is the driving force behind the privatization efforts.
I don’t know if this will make it to being published. I usually have a point I am making when I seem to be less than strict in sticking to the subject. The world is more complicated than 140ers would have us believe.
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Yes. Charters & vouchers are discriminatory by design. Anyone with a child with severe disabilities will never qualify. Like all private schools, stay afloat by picking & choosing their students and eliminating unwanted children.
https://www.civilrightsproject.ucla.edu/research/k-12-education/integration-and-diversity/choice-without-equity-2009-report
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there is a US Senator that gets 10% of privatizing schools in Arizonia-he also has a nice car (and he does all this in a 40 week as listed) in addition to being a US Senator (The general facts are correct His name Fitzpatrick?) Read this in the library last week ( in the New York Times) This explains how Betsy Davos makes her millions and is now going for all schools to be privatized (she doesn’t want to help schools) Dear Betsy is helping herself to a few more million dollars. I must say these Privatized school vouchers choose the children they want (Oh and are people aware of you can get a tax deduction by giving to these vouchers) There are all kinds of ins and outs we have not been told about
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I believe in the South there is!
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At the same time, public schools in Muncie are being destroyed, Indiana sits on a huge budget surplus. Legislators even refuse to expand pre-K to levels the Republican governor has asked. They are increasing gasoline taxes to repair roadways & we have our own Flint, MI occurring in Northwest IN. Our Legislature is bought & paid for buy ALEC. They are keeping IN at the bottom of the barrel in all metrics relating to good health, safety, wages, collective bargaining rights, number of college graduates, & public school funding. Why people here continue to vote for these guys I’ll never understand. We are the poster child of ALEC success.
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Amen!
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So few people even know that ALEC exists.
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Ciedie,
I bring up ALEC and explain whenever possible. See the Tavis Smiley interview: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/interviews/author-research-professor-diane-ravitch/
I wrote about it when I blogged at EdWeek (and got a response from the research director of ALEC saying that its agenda was the same as the Obama administration!) and have blogged about it here.
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Oh, yes, I know a lot about ALEC because of your work. (Your interview with Tavis was excellent, by the way.)
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You are 💯% correct Beth. Ow who was it that was a main speaker at their meeting. Oh, yes, I remember, former. Gov. Pence. He sure was unbiased.
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I’ve read that Pence’s successor, Gov Holcomb, & the Rep legislature had already over-ridden 2 Pence vetoes & turned around 2 other egregious Pence actions by Feb 9. Sure hope there is political will there to start rebuilding the damage to ed.
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Don’t believe it. As meager as the bonus was they have a bill that is now going to eliminate it. They are also expanding vouchers.
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What a bummer. I am sad for my sis’s little grandkids just approaching school age (parents are transplanted upstate-NY’rs). Indianapolis’ factories have been a godsend for their mfg-engr dad, but there is a cost.
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I just sent this article to my Indiana State Senator Niemeyer (R) and my House Representative Slager (R).
I keep hearing from them in news letters about the great things that are happening in education in Indiana.
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They are Republicans, all for vouchers and eliminating the public schools and funding for public schools. Hitler did the same so he could teach only German Nazi propaganda. Your children’s education will be dictated by the US Government….Trump Charter School protocol. Public schools would NEVER allow unregulated free for alls. Public education has standards for teachers and standards for curriculum.
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Your comments are the most ignorant statements I have ever read. You have to be a liberal government teacher
We the normal people who were lucky enough to get a GOOD old education have finally gotten enough fury built up to tell you ignorant puppets of our liberal universitys that things were fine before you stuck your dumb ideas into the system. Our children are so dumb these days they don’t even think about futures. They have to have all of their electronic devices to survive. Individual thinking is obselet. All of your grand ideas have pushed us so far backwards it will take years for us to eliminate all your mistakes. Do not blame us for ruining the system. It was fine and should have been left alone. Change for the sake of change is wrong… and STUPID. You brought this on yourselves and if you check the only people supporting you are…. Other teahers
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Keith,
This is my response to the Trollish hogwash you wrote in your comment.
BS!
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I’m a retired teacher and I agree with your assessment, Lloyd.
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Keith, first, i got a “Good old education” like you, in both public and private. The children being on their devices and not being independent thinkers would be a result of poor parenting, along with their lack of desire for independence. The public schools my children go to do encourage independent thinking and are much more advanced than my education. I will say to both Gail and Keith, assuming it is strictly liberals or conservatives on one side or the other are really irritating assumptions…there are people on all sides for and against, so please don’t make assumptions.
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What we are living through is the deconstruction of the United States into a theocratic medieval kingdom led by billionaire barons. For sure, a return to the inquisitions led by fundamentalist Christians like Betsy DeVos and Pence.
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What do you think, Lloyd, one or two years before Pence is president?
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Only if the GOP loses the Senate in 2018 or the malignant narcissist is taken out by a team of special -orces troops. Delta Force or Seal Team 6. I don’t see enough Republicans in Congress rising up to get rid of the beast and his Rasputin-Goebbels Steve Bannon.
And if the special forces acts, I hope they take out Pence, Bannon, Ryan and most of Trump’s cabinet the same day.
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Spot on!
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There’s no comment button on Keith’s comment, but am I the only one who noticed that the guy calling other people ignorant can’t spell, and apparently isn’t smart enough to compensate by using spell check?
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These retrogrades really hate public schools and public school teachers with a white hot passion. And now these same people control the White house, the Congress, the DOE and soon the SCOTUS. We have endured a vicious public school hater here in NJ for almost 8 years. Christie never passed up an opportunity to bad mouth public schools, their teachers and their unions. He had free access to all kinds of media to bloviate about failure factories, lazy, greedy unionized teachers, too generous pensions and too generous health benefits. It’s like living in upside down world.
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When the pension goes bust in eight years, it will probably no longer be mischaracterized as too generous.
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Public Schools are hated because the People that are benefiting monetarily from School Vouchers don’t want their Gravy Train to end!
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How many Indiana teachers voted for Chump? I know current and retired teachers who voted for him and still support him.
As a former teacher myself, I am astounded by the simple mindedness of my colleagues.
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I don’t have the answer to how many teachers in Indiana voted for Trump. I do have a friend who stopped going to a social group (all well dressed women) because so many of them support Trump. We all live in Indiana.
Indiana is a red state. We still vote into office Republicans. The Tea Party is rampant. I don’t understand why when the state is at the bottom of many statistics. Guess it comes down to people not voting in their best interests due to ignorance of the facts.
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Recommended read ‘What’s the Matter with Kansas?’ by Thomas Frank.
http://www.tcfrank.com/books/whats-the-matter-with-kansas/
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Too many! That is part of the problem. They are wearing blinders and only see one issue (pro life) and don’t realize there is so much more at stake; such as our poorest and neediest student’s access to a free and appropriate public education.
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Good point! If we can make sure all of the babies are murdered in utero, the problem with public education will be moot!
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Sounds like a Jonathan Swift “Modest Proposal.” He suggested that the answer to hunger in Ireland was to eat the children.
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Indiana is a hostile environment for public school educators. Our state government is working hard to dismantle public schools. Through vouchers, huge tax scholarships and no accountability for charters and private schools accepting vouchers, they are chipping away at public education and each year it is worse. Public school advocates better wake up because this will happen on a national level.
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Remember that the attack of Indiana’s public schools actually started under Mitch Daniels. Pence picked up the behavior and made it worse.
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Like IN, MI, & FL, We have the same desperate conditions in TN with Bill Haslam (a billionaire governor) and a retrograde state legislature.
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If it were me I’d be looking to move to a more teacher friendly state.
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Where is that?
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Sadly, a most appropriate comment, Abigail.
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What about the parents in Indiana? Why isn’t there more of an uproar from THEM?
After Pence and the corporate ed. reformers have destroyed any and all incentives for anyone with half-a-brain to take a teaching job in Indiana — at a public OR charter school — will those same parents then be okay with their children being taught by Goober and Gomer Pyle — or rather, the Pyle brothers’ Hoosier equivalents?
(Baby Boomer reference, I know.
BTW, Goober and Gomer Pyle are those two imbecilic but lovable brothers who hail from Mayberry, North Carolina — from THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW.)
For those who have no idea as to what I’m referring, here’s of 1-minute clip of the Brothers Pyle demonstrating their dueling Cary Grant impressions (“Judy, Judy, Judy!”):
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Yikes…I am sorry educators in Indiana!!
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It’s sad, but Indiana is so deeply red, most parents could care less. As a life long Indiana resident, a public school educator in Indiana and a progressive, I see a less than rosy future here. Daniels, Pence, Bosma, Behing, Kenley, Long, Bennett and others have done irreparable damage to public education here. They are owned by and are beholding to ALEC and the Koch Bros. PACs.
I am close to retirement now and can not look to relocate. If I were 38 instead of 58, I’d be immersing myself in French and be looking northward to Montreal.
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So when an Indiana parent attends a parent-teacher conference, and, for the first time, meet their kid’s new teacher, Brick Tamland (Steve Carrell’s weatherman from ANCHORMAN I and II), those parents are going to be okay with that?
I don’t think so. (A McCauley Culkin said in HOME ALONE)
Here’s Brick responding to the question of what he loves:
A little off-topic, but here’s Mitt Romney’s unintentional Brick Tamland impression:
Or, let’s say that the hypothetical Indiana teacher meeting students’ parents is a female … in this case Chani, Brick Tamlland’s dimbulb girlfriend and eventual wife (in ANCHORMAN II).
Here’s a condensed version of Brick & Chani’s immortal love story (a perfect match, to be sure … right up there with Heloise & Abelard, Tristan & Isolde, etc.):
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DEzerov – I understand completely. At 59 I’m just trying to hang in there until I can afford to retire and hope we still have a pension!
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Ck out Women4Change and Hamilton County Action Togethet [HCAT] we are over 800+ members strong. So many grassroot orgs. in Hamilton County. We are here!
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Jan Kavensky,
Please join your group to NPE, if you have not already.
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This is truly disgusting.
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Can someone tell me where the students are going in Muncie? Enrollment keeps dropping. Why? I see on CEEP that 260 use vouchers. But are there other reasons? Beyond poor funding, the district is losing money because it is losing students.
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How about parents pulling their children out and homeschooling them to escape the planned, deliberate underfunded destruction and erosion of the traditional public schools and to also stay away from the autocratic, opaque, often fraudulent and child abusive corporate charter schools? I read recently that the number of home-schooled children is increasing.
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I know some of the parents that live in that area, and their kids have gone to the neighboring rural schools. Many left when they closed one of the Muncie high schools and sent all of the kids to one high school.
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Loyd,
As a former marine are you really advocating a military coup and the death of the President and his staff?
“Only if the GOP loses the Senate in 2018 or the malignant narcissist is taken out by a team of special -orces troops. Delta Force or Seal Team 6. I don’t see enough Republicans in Congress rising up to get rid of the beast and his Rasputin-Goebbels Steve Bannon.
And if the special forces acts, I hope they take out Pence, Bannon, Ryan and most of Trump’s cabinet the same day.”
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Jscheidell,
Lloyd’s comment was hyperbole.
I wish this whole administration would be blown away by a dust storm, or that I would wake up and discover it was just a terrible nightmare.
Is that better?
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Correct. Hyperbole.
exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally
Since I have no way to measure if his fingers are actually little compared to what they should be for his size that hides beneath baggy, loose suits, I suspect that Trump doesn’t exercise, has a horrible diet, and his body looks mostly like pale, soft, blubbery, lard.
I also allege that if he had a proper physical, we’d discover he has several health issues and takes medications to control them so he can continue to abuse his body and brain through his chosen lifestyle that probably increases his Alt-Right fed paranoia.
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And he looks like this while expecting women, those with any value, to have #10 bodies. Disgusting.
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Don’t forget that the malignant narcissist has been documented saying he doesn’t like women older than 35. So, his women have to be 35 or under and be a #10 according to what he thinks a #10 is.
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