A Mexican woman with two American-born children, who had lived in this country for two decades, was deported immediately when she checked in with immigration offices for her annual visit. This is the result of Trump’s executive order to deport undocumented immigrants who have committed a crime. The crime in this case was that she once used a fake social security card. We can all rest easier tonight knowing that Ms. Garcia de Rayos no longer threatens our nation’s security.
In the area where I live on Long Island, there are many farms and vineyards. If the Immigration Service deports all undocumented immigrants, the local economy will crash. Perhaps Trump will persuade coal miners in West Virginia to come to the North Fork to tend the vineyards at minimum wage.
“In a matter of days, Guadalupe Garcia de Rayos has gone from being one of about 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the United States to a poster child for critics of Donald Trump’s hard line on immigration and his promise to increase deportations.
“Garcia de Rayos, 35, emerged from her seemingly ordinary life after a yearly check-in Wednesday at the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement office in Phoenix.
“It was her eighth visit since her 2008 arrest and conviction for using a fake Social Security number. After each meeting, she was released and returned to her family in Mesa.
“This time, Garcia de Rayos was detained and deported to Mexico within 24 hours in what her attorney claims is a direct result of Trump’s crackdown.
“ICE officials insist there was nothing special about her situation: She had committed a crime and was ordered deported.
“Now the case has become a flashpoint in the heated national dispute over Trump’s executive order that says any undocumented immigrant convicted or charged with a crime that hasn’t been adjudicated could be deported.”
The New York Times gives more details. Her husband is also undocumented.
“PHOENIX — For eight years, Guadalupe García de Rayos had checked in at the federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement office here, a requirement since she was caught using a fake Social Security number during a raid in 2008 at a water park where she worked.
“Every year since then, she has walked in and out of the meetings after a brief review of her case and some questions.
“But not this year.
“On Wednesday, immigration agents arrested Ms. Rayos, 35. Despite efforts by her family and others who tried to block, legally and physically, her removal from the United States, she was deported Thursday to Nogales, Mexico, the same city where she crossed into the United States 21 years ago.
“Immigration agents “said she’s a threat, but my wife isn’t a threat,” her husband said in an interview.
“As one of the estimated 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the United States, Ms. Rayos was always a candidate for deportation, but as a matter of practicality, the Obama administration had focused its finite resources on removing the most serious criminals. The government even won a deportation order against Ms. Rayos in 2013, but had not carried it out, instead merely requiring her to check in periodically.
“That all changed under President Trump, who ran on a pledge of being tougher on illegal immigration. Among the 18 executive orders that he has issued since taking office on Jan. 20 is one stipulating that undocumented immigrants convicted of any criminal offense — and even those who have not been charged but are believed to have committed “acts that constitute a chargeable criminal offense” — have become a priority for deportation.”

Does that mean that Melania Trump should be deported?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-melania-trump-worked-in-us-without-proper-permit/2016/11/05/3ddc5a8a-a302-11e6-a44d-cc2898cfab06_story.html?utm_term=.2429a24583a8
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Good one, speduktr.
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What can we do to help?
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Contribute to organizations that provide legal assistance to immigrants.
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If I may add to this, if you have immigrants in your neighborhood, reach out and meet them. If you are in an airport, or on an airplane, or anywhere where immigrants are coming into the country, welcome them, shake their hands, and let them know you are honored that they would choose to live and raise their families here. And then pass it on to others and ask them to do the same. Be there for them and each other.
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We’re going after this mother rather than the drug cartels, murderers, and rapists? This is not exactly the best use of the government’s finite human resources.
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They know what they are doing – terrorizing immigrants, forcing them into the shadows, making sure they don’t fight for their rights.
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People without criminal records are being pulled out of their homes at night. Gestapo tactics.
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So her dangerous crime was using a fake social security card? And this affects whether or not she pays taxes, right? So her “threat to our ntional security” is based on whether or not she contributes to the tax base. I see. Now when are we running that tax-evading Trump character out of the country?
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Her “crime” was back in 2010 when our economy was in the toilet. She was probably desperate to feed her children. Our country is starting to look like “Les MIserables.”
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I’m guessing that the illegals working in the chicken industry will be next to go. After all big companies have to have been following the laws and employing only people who provided social security numbers, right?
Perhaps people that Trump is going to put to work will enjoy processing chicken; a nasty job that pays little. Naturally the price of chicken will go up with all the other food products that illegals have been helping to provide the nation. Where will this spiral lead us?
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I am sure there are hundreds of people in Detroit and Flint that will drive out to CA to work the fields of CA. And as citizens of the U. S. they will stand up for the right to breaks, etc. Adjusting to the desert like climate might be difficult at first but they might adjust to valley fever. They already have adjusted to toxic water after all. I wonder though how other citizens will like their grocery bills, esp.those who have been down-sized on their jobs and thought Trump was a real populist and not just talking through his a__.
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Pres. Trump has not issued a ban on Muslims. He issued a ban (now under appeal) on travel from some nations (identified by the Obama administration). Nations from Morocco to Indonesia,all across from North Africa to the Pacific, have Muslim majorities. Muslims travel to/from the USA, without restriction from these nations.
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Charles, he promised during the campaign to ban Muslims. Rudy Giuliani publicly advised how to impose a Muslim ban.
Why isn’t Saudi Arabia on the list? Is it because there is a Trump hotel there?
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Wow–CNN is finally reporting. Would that they will station themselves at Standing Rock.
Saw the story of that mother & her children on HBO Vice News. Heartbreaking.
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Saudi Arabia has NEVER been on any U.S. Government list–remember, after 9-11, how the S.A. royals were flown out (probably w/OUR tax $$$, but what else is new?) by the Bush Administration?
And wasn’t it found that some of the 9-11 terrorists came out of S.A.?
(Anyone–please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.)
Anyway, it’s all about the oil & the $$$$.
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Saudi Arabia was not on the list provided by the Obama administration.
see:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/01/obama-selected-the-list-of-muslim-countries-in-trumps-executive-order
20% of the population of this world is Muslim. It would be almost impossible to ban all Muslims from traveling to/from the USA.
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Since when did Trump accept Obama instructions?
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But he did promise exceptions for Christians in those countries. So who is left?
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What will happen to the children of the deported?
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The brave and tough Donald Trump takes it the single mom. His un-nuanced world of absolute good and evil ploughs down everyone in between.
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Good? Where?
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Once the immigrants are gone, Trump will sign an executive order making it illegal to be homeless. The homeless will be rounded up and bussed to corporate farms where they will be housed in tents behind barbed wire and forced to work long day sin the fields for pennies on the hour. To make sure they can’t escape, Trump will hire corporate police who will have orders to shoot anyone that attempts to escape.
When the homeless run out, the malignant narcissist will sign another executive order doing away with unemployment benefits and force the unemployed into the same camps.
If you haven’t read John Steinbeck, I recommend his books to find out what the new world order of Trump will be like except this time it will be much worse. In Steinbeck’s books, the working poor were free to leave at any time and strike out on their own to try someplace else to find a job working for poverty wages. In Trump’s world, no one will have any free choice.
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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
by Pastor Martin Niemoller 1946
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Millions took to the streets and spoke out the day after the inauguration of the most dangerous and delusional man on earth today. And what did he say, “Why didn’t they vote?”
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He is a vindictive, mean spirited man. No, he will not change–I have said this all along. He has been behaving this way since he was a child and at age 70, I don’t expect an epiphany. In fact, he has surrounded himself with people who support and encourage his bad behavior.
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Diane,
Where were all the hyperventilating bloggers during the “Deporter in Chief.” – B HusseinO – reign ?
Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn’t include the number of people who “self-deported” or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
According to governmental data, the Obama administration has deported more people than any other president’s administration in history.
In fact, they have deported more than the sum of all the presidents of the 20th century.
President George W. Bush’s administration deported just over two million during his time in office; and Obama’s numbers don’t reflect his last year in office, for which data is not yet available.
President Obama directed U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to focus on criminals, not families, during his November 2014 executive action on immigration.
According to their website, “ICE has continued to increase its focus on identifying, arresting, and removing convicted criminals in prisons and jails, and also at-large arrests in the interior.”
In fiscal year 2015, 91 percent of people removed from inside the U.S. were previously convicted of a crime.
The administration made the first priority “threats to national security, border security, and public safety.” That includes gang members, convicted felons or charged with “aggravated felony” and anyone apprehended at the border trying to enter the country illegally.
In 2015, 81 percent, or 113,385, of the removals were the priority one removals.
Priority two includes “misdemeanants and new immigration violators.”
That includes “aliens convicted of three or more misdemeanor offenses, other than minor traffic” violations, as well as those convicted of domestic violence, sexual abuse, burglary, DUIs or drug trafficking.
The above article from the left leaning media is supported by the fact checkers <just for Lofty – Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President – ABC …
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661 – – Cached – Similar pages
Aug 29, 2016 … President George W. Bush’s administration deported just over two million during his time in office; and Obama’s numbers don’t reflect his last …>
And again, the raid focused on picked up 160 illegal CRIMINALS was created during the Mr. Deporter’s admin.
“vindictive, mean man” promised to provide security for our nation – finally a President carrying out his campaign promise. Sue, what name did you call Obama for his deportations? Be careful you might get the “racist ” moniker.
Diane – a possible reason for why those 7 nations were chosen and not Saudi Arabia and some other Muslim countries might be the fact that they have a central govt and vetting can be done .
Michelle -“They know what they are doing – terrorizing immigrants, forcing them into the shadows, making sure they don’t fight for their rights.” If they are illegal and commit criminal offenses then they are not covered by the Constitution and have no rights…better to terrorize the illegals and criminals than for them to terrorize and murder us
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“The trend can be traced back to the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IIRCA) of 1986, ‘which encouraged the initiation of deportation proceedings against any immigrant convicted of a deportable offense. Since that time, a stream of punitive legislation has eaten away at the traditional discretion of judges to grant relief from deportation in particular cases.'”
http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/
Presidents can not pass legislation. That responsibility belongs to Congress.
And before you claim Obama used executive orders to throw people out of the United States, “Obama issued fewer executive orders on average than any president since Cleveland.”
Obama averaged 35 executive orders per year.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/23/obama-executive-orders/
Part of the president’s job is to support and implement legislation passed by Congress. The reason for so many decorations while he was president was doing his job regarding legislation passed by Congress.
What were Obama’s executive orders on immigration?
Here’s one. What were the others?
“President Obama unveiled Thursday a major executive action on immigration policy, offering temporary legal status to millions of illegal immigrants, along with an indefinite reprieve from deportation.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/11/19/your-complete-guide-to-obamas-immigration-order/?utm_term=.eec7d541be29
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Lofty,
You did not address the question of where all the bleeding hearts were on Obama, Clinton and Bush regarding their deportations? Trump has a long way to go to match Obama’s numbers…but I am happy for everyone of the illegals deported who have committed crimes, multiple reentries, murder thefts you name it…A president following the congressional directives and supported court rulings…
Remember the following :
Clinton 1995 immigration SOTU | User Clip | C-SPAN.org
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4351026/clinton-1995-immigration-sotu
Senator Obama on Illegal Immigration in 2005 – YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDQztM1iONA – 192k
Bush’s Speech on Immigration – The New York Times
I will also note that I did not reference the number of EOs by the Pres Obama. “‘And before you claim Obama used executive orders to throw people out of the United States, “Obama issued fewer executive orders on average than any president since Cleveland.”
The number is inconsequential – Trump only has one EO on a STAY to delay further immigration from a select number of countries since they do not have a central govt capable of vetting information.
I guess if I follow your wandering retort – Trump should get a decoration for following the law – and insuring his oath and campaign speech of protecting the citizens of this country from illegal criminals?
As you did say ” Part of the president’s job is to support and implement legislation passed by Congress. The reason for so many decorations while he was president was doing his job regarding legislation passed by Congress.”
Why should any President doing his job be given a decoration. Our security is more important than the issue of deporting these people – it is the part of the oath he and each pres before him take
the Illegal criminals have NO RIGHTS under the Constitution. And why is it that some of these deportees are not wanted back by their own country?
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And why is it that the U.S. doesn’t even make the top 10 list for the happiest countries on the planet?
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/top-10/2016-worlds-happiest-countries/
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Lofty
Irrelevant to issue
Still avoiding the original question.
Why didnt the illigal immigrants who committed a crime any crime, consider what would happen to their children if caught ? I thought assimilation and following laws of our country were important to them
I am happy they are getting deported I hope no one in your families are murdered robbed or hit by drunken drivers Remember Katie and every grandfather mothers fathers or relatives effected by them
The bleeding hyperventilating do gooders wont be happy if it happens to them
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There is a good book called “The Spirit Level.”
It shows that the nation’s with the least income equality are the happiest. Those with the most income inequality are the unhappiness.
Happy and unhappy translates into civic participation and many other dimensions of life that matter.
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You act like a want-to-be autocrat attempting to control the conversation, but you don’t control what I will write in a comment and I made a decision not to answer your questions. Instead, I said what I wanted to say. Conversation closed. I made the point I wanted to make.
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Lofty
Your reply is one of an autocrat controlling the. Onversation – you chastize others for it yet you become the prime example
“End of Conversation”
Tolerance is a gift some of the group needs to display
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Lofty thinks you are an idiot, but then my name is not Lofty.
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Lofty,
I remember in a previous reply of yours you gave me grief for calling u this moniker – that only your closest friends were allowed to call you – I could ask you who is the idiot now but I wouldn’t lower myself to that level….
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No one has called my “Lofty” for decades. Fifty years ago a few of my closest friends, who are all dead now, called me that. I never went by that name or referred to myself by that name.
And the Lofty you think you are writing to still thinks your an idiot, but I wouldn’t know because Lofty is not my name, and I refuse to interact with that Lofty you seem to love so much.
Me, I think you are a Troll and you get off by being one.
“Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists
Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.” …
“Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun … and the Internet is their playground!”
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists
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Lofty –
It seems when you have little to retort as many liberals do when questions are presented you and they revert to the old denm book – call them names “Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists
Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.” …
It really seemed that you were looking into a mirror and this is the reflection you see!
This seems like you like rule number 5 of s. alynsky “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating….”
Nice try but I think you need to expand your handbook of negative adjectives and name calling and your pocket handbook of psycho babble.
Have you ever considered actually addressing the issue or question without trying to tear another individual down because you dislike the question or the persons comeback to you points?
The lefty preaches tolerance – but somehow can’t follow what they preach?
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jscheidell = troll
Trolls often use questions to deflect/change the topic and then pounce on the victim when those questions aren’t answered by the victim.
Then when the targeted victim gets frustrated and says what he’s thinking, the Troll throws out the ad hominem defense.
By then, the original topic has wandered far off course and has been forgotten.
I refuse to feed trolls. Give it up.
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