Slate posed this question about a sentence spoken by Trump in 2015. Thanks to reader Susan Schwartz for sending this to me.
Slate asked, “Can you diagram this sentence?” More to the point, can you extract a coherent thought from it?
“Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you’re a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”

I think Trump imitates Alec Baldwin on SNL.
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How many trees do you have available? We’re gonna need a bigger piece of paper (apologies to Quint in Jaws).
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I think Alec Baldwin does Donald Trump better than Donald Trump does Donald Trump.
But then, with a moniker like KrazyTA, what do I know?
😎
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No large sheets of paper needed: the subject of the sentence is “I,” the direct object is “me” and the implicit predicate is “aggrandize.” (Alternate predicate with fewer syllables: “love”)
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Like–enthusiastically.
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As follows:
“Look, having nuclear—
blablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablabla
but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—
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it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful;
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(Thank you, Charlie Brown)
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Chuckle.
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I leave the sentence diagramming to the ed majors this anthro major sees all language as equal if it communicates. He obviously communicated with his base. On that note,.
my wife’s friend sends texts that sound similar obviously he communicates with those that depend on the Welfare state yet rail against it because she voted for him, Even with her mentally ill adult son depending on Obamacare. Must be in the writing or the water.
On another note CNN and the Wall Street Journal are now reporting that the Flynn calls were not just metadata of calls made but actual eavesdropping.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/23/politics/flynn-russia-calls-investigation/
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Reminds me of the old “Bush is stupid” line of attack. Not productive.
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“Reminds me of the old “Bush is stupid” line of attack. Not productive.”
Productivity is not everything. You need to take care of soul first. Repeating “W is stupid” provided much better balance than facing “Cheney is screwing us”.
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Bush is stupid possibly was more effective than you think. Until the Swift Boating of Kerry. Kerry had a substantial lead. No doubt that a well oiled political slime network can manipulate an uneducated public. Or one that is not paying attention,when things are going well. The war could be ignored when someone else’s son is doing the fighting.
However by 2006 the Democrats managed to recapture both Houses even at a time that ostensibly the economy was doing quite well. By the time 2008 rolled around and Clinton’s(Republican) deregulation finally caught up to the economy, stupid worked so well, that not only was his presidency rejected his party was overwhelming rejected to be replaced by a Black President. A Black President with a super majority.
Bush is stupid was probably as effective as Hillary is corrupt.
Bush was stupid and Hillary was corrupt and was portrayed as such by the most corrupt swamp dwellers on the Planet.
He gets no pass for being incoherent and as soon as something occurs all of the labels will drown him . Till then he will seem to have Teflon clothes.
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I have no idea what is meant by “diagramming” a sentence. But now that I see you mention “Ed Majors” it is starting to make sense. I get the sense it is something invented by Educationists for some purpose.
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I had diagramming of sentences back in the fifth grade. (Don’t remember much.)
Draw a straight line from L to R. On the L side put the subject noun. On the R side put the verb. Draw a line perpendicular to separate the two.
There are lines going off from the subject noun showing adjectives. Lines going off from the verb shows adverbs.
It visually shows the construction of the sentence. Nobody could diagram the incoherent sentence that Trump made.
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Gonna take teamwork to get the job done!
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Yes!
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Rather than a diagram which is linear and logical, I think it is better to apply Chomsky’s deep and surface understanding to this stream of consciousness speech. On the deep level he is say what he is always saying. He is genetically superior and has incredible negotiating skills. He has respect for his uncle who was a nuclear physicist, and Iran, especially the Iranian women that are “smarter” than the men. As for the surface structure, maybe a speech pathologist could help with it or a psychologist, He has difficulty organizing coherence, but his brain is moving at a rapid pace. Some professionals believe he has ADHD. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-sachs-psyd/unfit-unfocused-or-is-tru_b_11568002.html
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Some say its cocaine
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I say, it’s dumbness. The others, like cocaine and ADHD, are excuses and give wiggling room to imagine a hidden soul and a functioning brain.
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Cocaine or some other type of speed. His sniffling alone reminds me of lots of people with whom I attended college. I’m guessing we’ll see the blood and toxicity tests around the same time we see his tax returns or when he publishes his Little Red Book of Ethics.
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If I’m understanding this right, this sentence is a stack ranking by the universal smartness scale. Of the four typical categories, the results are:
1) women, 2) Trump bloodline, 3) Iranian negotiators, 4) liberal Democrats
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It’s a word salad: ingredients – moldy lettuce, rusty nails, toxic tomatoes, toes of newt (Gingrich), eyes of rabid raccoons, spleen of DeVos, rancid cucumbers, fava beans, liver of Grover Norquist and a fine Chianti, thup, thup, thup. Actually, it’s more like a verbal witches’ brew. A grammatical toxic waste dump?
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Love it! You got it right.
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Here’s some more good thinking done by Trump. Trump’s a product of private schools. Is he really in any position to lecture anyone on education? (Looks like expensive private schools aren’t doing a good job.)
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“Well, I think Lincoln succeeded for numerous reasons. He was a man who was of great intelligence, which most presidents would be. But he was a man of great intelligence, but he was also a man who did something that was a very vital thing to do at that time. Ten years before or 20 years before, what he was doing would never have even been thought possible. So he did something that was a very important thing to do, and especially at that time. And Nixon failed, I think to a certain extent, because of his personality. You know? It was just that personality. Very severe, very exclusive. In other words, people couldn’t come in. And people didn’t like him. I mean, people didn’t like him.”
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LOL.
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Sounds a bit like a short answer written by a high school student who had no idea how to answer the question but thought he was pretty good at BSing.
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Every other word that comes out of Trump’s mouth is ‘great’, ‘amazing’, incredible, etc. He is incapable of believing that anything connected to him doesn’t deserve a superlative adjective.
It’s really quite pathetic.
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Terrifically pathetic, to be alternatively precise!
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A wonderful array of “solutions” and creative responses to Diane’s question of the day. A feast fashioned from aggressive, self-centered, incoherence.
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I did not open? If not I will this afternoon
Sent from my iPhone
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A lot of the population has an education level which has a cap on how complex a sentence can be, before it makes them uncomfortable about whether they are understanding what is said. Others have an education level which has a cap on how disorganized a sentence can be, before it makes them uncomfortable about whether what is being said makes any sense. The obvious remedy to this problem is to respect the 140 character limit for tweets.
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It’s an amusing exercise, but does nothing to stop him, and likely just reinforces his support, rather than undermining it. As Flerp points out, ridiculing W Bush’s lack of intelligence did nothing to stop him.
Snark and ridicule do not a political strategy make, and while I (nor anyone else at the moment) has a definite idea of how to stop what we suspect is coming, I definitely know that this type of thing ain’t it.
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If this reinforces support for him, we are doomed. This is the price we pay for our anti-intellectiualism (among other things).
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What does “diagram a sentence” mean, and how does it show meaning? I don’t understand the question
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Foghorn Leghorn: “It’s joke son, don’t you get it?”
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No, I don’t get it at all And I have a well developed sense of humour (so I’ve been told)
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Depending on how you look at it, you may have been lucky or unlucky enough not to have had to diagram sentences in school. It was/is a visual tool for breaking down the structure of a sentence identifying the grammatical role words, phrases and clauses played in a sentence. There has got to be an English teacher out there who can explain it better. I didn’t appreciate the exercise until I was trying to support students whose teachers were teaching some grammar through diagramming. I adapted what I learned from it to show my struggling high school students through scrambled sentences that they really knew a lot more grammar than they realized. They loved unscrambling sentences especially together and were able to show they understood the structure of language. Even though they would be hard pressed to tell me what a prepositional phrase was and what it modified, they could reconstruct a sentence identifying and using them appropriately. They would have tarred and feathered me if I had attempted to teach them diagramming. They had absolutely no interest and most of them had already been given ample evidence that they were too “stupid” to learn it.
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My 8th grade English teacher used sit by her overhead projector and we diagramed sentences to death. I hated it and can’t really remember how to do it, but she was the best teacher I ever had. I didn’t realize it until many years later, but she taught me the basics of logic, writing, and critical thinking.
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And all of that without the internet, right?
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Thanks for the input. I still don’t know what, in specific terms, it is. I have an A.B. in English literature and taught High School English for twenty years. Don’t know why I never heard of this. It sounds ghastly. My teachers growing up probably thought so, too. Maybe that’s why I never heard of it.
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Would parsing mean more?
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I guess that must be because we used slabs of granite and hammers and chisels to take notes. Guess I’m older than I thought I was.
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Just checked and there an incredible amount of videos on sentence diagraming on YouTube. Here’s one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSK6qvWE0pQ
and another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Xxk9VQlwM
In your defense, prenestino, I will admit after watching a bit of these, it seems that diagraming sentences is probably the language equivalent of an abacus. Don’t really need those anymore either.
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Casey Stengel was his English teacher. Gave him an A in stream of consciousness and sentence fragments.
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What IS he high on???
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“What IS he high on???”
He is not high, he is low—on brain cells.
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As a former English teacher, I would mark it “incomplete , incoherent sentences” and “awkward.” Check your grammar book.
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Kids don’t diagram sentences anymore and that’s one of the reasons they can’t write one. They don’t know parts of speech. Their grammar is woefully lacking. Don’t even get me started on spelling and handwriting! What’s even worse is that many of them don’t care and don’t see it as a problem if they can’t express themselves well in writing.
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Headline: “President Trump has officially declared the day of his inauguration a national day of patriotism.”…Washington Post
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I wonder when he’ll have a giant statue of himself put up in the mall?
http://wapo.st/2kkVvTv?tid=ss_mail
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I had the same reaction, but apparently Obama did the same thing (although his was a day of “National Reconciliation” or something similar).
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This was written on AlterNEt news:
The proclamation begins, “A new national pride stirs the American soul and inspires the American heart. We are one people, united by a common destiny and a shared purpose.”
Trump announced the Day of Patriotic Devotion in order to, as the document says, “strengthen our bonds to each other and to our country.”
The proclamation abounds with religious language, stating that, “we must maintain faith in our sacred values and heritage” and that there can be “no peace where people do not pray for it.” It denotes the date as “the year of our Lord two thousand seventeen.”
The document also includes assertions of American exceptionalism, stating, “There are no greater people than the American citizenry.”
The office of White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer did not respond to several requests for comment about the proclamation.
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Somehow this doesn’t seem to be reflective of President Trump’s ideology.
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Looks like some closet leftist on the White House staff managed to slip in some “living Constitution” talk.
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Let’s just reflect on the fact that Trump’s uncle had the incredible foresight to recognize in 1983 that nuclear is powerful.
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It’s a zero score (0) according to the NYS English Language Arts Test rubric, which characterizes such poor responses as incoherent, irrelevant, incomprehensible, unresponsive. Really!
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Here is Netherland’s Trump diagram.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbkMXwHloo8
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This is great!
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Here is a British diagram—it really seems, Trump does make clear sense to people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RMwjaZouNY
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This anchorman, on the other hand, has the best diagram ever.
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This ones also good. Had a few chuckles over it.
The Inauguration of Donald Trump: The Daily Show
The Daily Show with Trevor Noah
Published on Jan 21, 2017
At Donald Trump’s inauguration, the new president paints a bleak picture of America, and Michelle Obama’s face betrays her feelings about the incoming first family.
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Thanks for these posts, Mate. This one is freaking brilliant. May be the best rant I’ve ever seen.
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Do you think he had to rehearse that? 🙂
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I now see that he is an actor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pie
Still, it’s pretty satisfying to listen to him. He is a mix of The Spinal Tap and George Carlin.
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Without the ability to illustrate on this blog, in order to be able to diagram such a sentence, one must reduce it to the most common denominators, in a simple noun/verb/adjective format, which I think would be:
I/am/deranged
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