Jeannie a Kaplan, a former member of the Denver school board, raises a sad question on her blog: when and how did America become a land of Me-First and Meanness? Surely this was not what the Founders intended.
She writes:
“When did it become acceptable for Americans to be so overtly MEAN to one another and to deMEAN one another? When I first thought of the MEANING of America in the early part of this century I thought this nastiness reared its ugly head under Bush/Cheney. But as the years have passed, I now believe the overt MEANness and the tacit approval of saying hurtful things started in 1994 with Newt Gingrich’s Contract with America, so it should come as no real surprise that Newt Gingrich has been supporting Donald Trump and his ugly view of America. Disparaging public servants became acceptable and even the norm. Not long afterward this Contract, the shameful behavior we are witnessing today seeped into our everyday lives. The advent and expansion of the internet and email and texting and twitter have all added to our willingness and ability to attack one another verbally. The anonymity and the impersonal nature of electronic communications allow people to say things many would never utter face to face. The culmination of this can be seen daily, hourly, minute by minute in the behavior and words of the Republican Presidential nominee. The nominee bullies, he lies, he threatens, he name calls using jargon few would ever use privately, let alone publicly, language that no national figure should ever use and before him did ever use. The nominee has done this from the safety of his tweets, rarely facing his targets personally. Somehow he has given Americans tacit approval to deMEAN each other, express hatred and bigotry toward each other, and even threaten each other with physical violence. He has become a poster child for MEANness and much, much more as he now threatens to undermine the cornerstone of our democracy, our election process itself.
“I cannot fully explain these occurrences. Our Founding Fathers would not recognize the crass discourse we are witnessing today. They worked tirelessly to collaborate, unite and adopt those 4543 words. One can obviously argue about equity, justice, tranquility, liberty for whom. But I do believe they hoped this new experiment called America would increase everyone’s opportunities for equity, justice, tranquility and liberty. Their hope was not to increase MEANness and ME –ism. It was not to deMEAN others, but rather to produce a country where democracy prevailed and where people would treat each other as they would like to be treated. In the words of Khzir Khan, “We can’t solve our problems by building walls and sowing division. We are stronger together.”

It’s all so “Lord of the Flies” ish….and that book terrified me when I was in middle school.
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I’ve been thinking a lot about this very issue lately. CHris Hedges makes me depressed but he bring up many good points.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/american_irrationalism_201610305
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Uh, I dunno, when we threw out the Indians? When we enslaved the Africans? Just because we used to be more “polite” does not mean we weren’t mean.
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I don’t think Jeannie is making a claim that the U.S. is meaner than in the days of slavery or Indian removals.
I think she refers to the fact that public discourse is so degraded. We try to teach our kids not to bully others, not to laugh at others, not to torment others. We try to teach them to act with a certain level of civility in public and in private.
My own sense is that the degradation of public behavior began in the mass media. Movies and TV are commercially more successful when they show violence and portray the darkest side of human behavior. That has a ripple effect. We as a society have become desensitized to violence, to incivility, to vulgar language, to abusive behavior of all kinds. A certain amount of self-repression of desires is required for society to function, and we seem to have lost the ability to teach self-discipline, self-control.
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Dienne correctly points out America’s past flaws. My concern is people angry and ready to throw out the whole system and start over because of past and present flaws.
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I am with Vale Math. There are endless examples of hypocrisy we can point to when discussing the merits of civility. However, do we throw out all attempt to treat others with some decency because we can be really bad at upholding high standards? It brings back those childhood protests about who had done what to whom first. At some point we have to move past the blame game if we hope to move forward. Progress can be glacial; are we going to advance through spewing bigotry and hatred?
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Hi Dienne:
You are correct in a narrow definition of GREED and CRUELTY.
If you explore further into fascism and communism, then you would startle in the state of being INHUMANITY, SAVAGE, and ANIMAL INSTINCT in which you and all other intelligent people with their blind faith and gullibility will suffer and will not have any chance to be human again even if you are strong like gladiator in the Roman era.
Women are weak so that they easily become servants at the mercy of the beast. Back2basic.
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Charming characterization of women. What kind of post IS this????
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To answer the question from a politically historic point of view: The capture of the White House by corporate America with Ronald Reagan. Since then, it’s been a total decline from what has been preached to the masses in the ever- increasingly disappearing civics classes as the American character. We are a joke and a sad one at that. The late comedian George Carlin foresaw all this, all that we’ve become. As a high school teacher, I have seen the replication of Reality TV behavior increase and intensify in our hallways over the past 5 years. There is absolutely no conflict resolution skills and the first sign of adversity induces paralysis.
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What about the Southern strategy of Richard Nixon, or his derailing of the peace talks with North Vietnam which cost the lives of 10’s of thousands additional American boys and how many Vietnamese.
The Democrats have serious problems but the Republicans have been a plague on civility for quite some time.
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Former President Carter made the point that the U.S. would have had universal healthcare during his presidency, if not for Ted Kennedy.
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I apologize for being a tad picky or contrarian but….. Meanness? What’s more mean than the slaughter and forceable removal of the original peoples and slavery? In some significant ways, we have become less mean: elimination of slavery, de jure segregation, lynchings and native Americans are no longer being slaughtered.
However, it is true that the GOP candidate has lowered the bar to a record low in my memory. As nasty, dirty and corrupt as our politics can be, Trump has opened up a whole new level of demagogic viciousness.
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With regard to native people, I saw that three busloads of white folks, mostly college professors and old hippies, are heading to Standing Rock to protest. They goal is to soften the police response. It looks worse to the media if the police tase older white people in our racially troubled society.
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No question about past injustices. But America needs to put this election behind us and move on to the future.
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I don’t think the Founding Fathers would be all that shocked considering the attack ads between Jefferson and Adams in 1800.
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Amazing editing on that, sobering of course. I have had the good fortune of getting some emails to bring some humor into this dismal time. here is one.
https://www.michaelyon-online.com/a-message-from-the-queen.htm
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There are many contributing factors that have made our country mean. Some of these influences are economic. We are facing a period of economic displacement. We have been forced to compete in the global economy, and we are losing the battles. Manufacturing jobs have been decimated, and there is no replacement for them. Many people are underemployed or stuck in dead end jobs. At the same time vulture capitalists thrive while everyone else flounders. We have extreme income inequality, and it leads to blaming and scapegoating. Teachers know this very well. The reality of climate change and our unwillingness to accept reality have contributed to a generalized sense of social anxiety.
Some of the issues making our society less civil are social and technological. The rise of reality TV, unfiltered internet exchanges and the decline of religious participation have all contributed. Trump is a perfect media creation that personifies our mean trend. Social media have contributed to cyber bullying and vulgar, unfiltered exchanges on line. The decline of religion contributes to the unleashing of baser instincts. Regardless of the type religion, religion is generally a social control mechanism. A decline in religious participation produces a declining sense of security for many people. Today some religious expression is not elevating people; it is encouraging people to commit acts of terrorism. All these factors contribute to an uncivil society.
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Look closer at those allegedly lost manufacturing jobs. A study released yesterday and reported by some media outlets reveals that 88 percent of lost jobs in the U.S. manufacturing were due to automation, not China or Mexico.
“Research shows that the automation of U.S. factories is a much bigger factor than foreign trade in the loss of factory jobs. A study at Ball State University’s Center for Business and Economic Research last year found that trade accounted for just 13 percent of America’s lost factory jobs. The vast majority of the lost jobs — 88 percent — were taken by robots and other homegrown factors that reduce factories’ need for human labor.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/mexico-taking-us-factory-jobs-blame-robots-43238078
In fact, up until the last couple of years, the U.S. manufacturing sector was the largest in the world until China, recently, became #1. Now the U.S. is #2 by a fairly small margin.
All the lies about jobs being lost to China and Mexico are nothing but smoke and mirrors using those two countries as scapegoats while US factories. as quietly as possible.automated and let the human workers go.
I’ve know this fact since the early1990s when I attended a workshop where we were told about one GM bumper factory that employed 500 workers in 1950 that was still producing the same number of bumpers today but with only 2 human workers who maintained the robots to kept them working.
Robots are the new era if slavery. They are not paid wages. There is no need for health care. No need to pay into Social Security. No need to pay into unemployment insurance. No need to let them take potty breaks and lunch. No need to let them have an annual vacation. No need to have a resource specialist to help keep your employees happy, or not. No need to provide any benefits at all.
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Lloyd,
I don’t know the stats on automation vs. outsourcing, but I have a story. A friend is married to a man who has retired but previously was in charge of inspecting facilities and factories for a major food company. He told me that when he first started, the typical factory had 1,000 workers. Now, he said, the same factory is automated with the latest technology and has only 2 employees.
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For a period of time, labor in China, Mexico, Vietnam, Sri Lanka and other third world countries was cheaper than the robots or automation. However, wages have risen a bit in China and robots or automation has gotten cheaper.
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Joe,
And factories that went to China in the early 1980s are starting to come back because labor costs are rising there, but will those returning factories provide many jobs for American workers if they automate?
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There will always be a country where labor costs are much lower than in the U.S.
Much of the whining about not having enough skilled labor, not having enough STEM graduates, comes from corporations who are looking for an excuse to outsource to cut labor costs. To India, where skilled engineers earn a fraction of what U.S. engineers expect, or to other countries, where costs are lower. Notice no one seems to outsourcing to Germany, where skills are high and labor costs no different from the U.S. No, the countries of choice are those where there is cheap labor, no unions, and little or no regulation.
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Lloyd and Diane
The Robot story is a good one and yes factories were retooled in the 80’s. Eliminating labor. However productivity or more correctly its increase, the output of labor per worker is much lower than it was in previous periods. If robots were taking all these jobs. it would have skyrocketed . 2 workers doing the work of a 1000, a 500% increase at that factory alone. Further some of the factories that have close were some of our most productive facilities rebuilt and the workforce cut prior to the new century. Much like discussions in education when the elites want to play a narritave they have endless resources to muddy the waters.
So here is Dean Baker to help with this and I will try to extrapolate the graph from the article because the graph says it all . We must have built a lot of hi tech factories in Ohio in the last 2 decades. But we didn’t !!!!
http://cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/why-does-the-nyt-feel-the-need-to-tell-readers-things-that-are-untrue-about-trade-and-manufacturing-jobs
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Actually the graph is Indiana
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The word, “outsourcing”, is part of the false narrative. It was crafted to whitewash, the exploitation of labor and corporate avoidance of health and safety precautions.
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And a more detailed look. The fact that Trump has grabbed this issue is upsetting. The fact that a certain portion of his supporters turn to him, thinking he is the answer is insane.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/10/18/dont-blame-the-robots-an-interview-on-manufacturing-automation-and-globalization-with-susan-houseman/?utm_term=.6c4cf9123172
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Trump claimed that he’s against outsourcing American jobs to foreign countries and said that he will bring back those jobs to the US. What a crock! Trump is one of the culprits who has actually been doing the outsourcing himself, to both China and Mexico, as demonstrated by these labels for his clothing line: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtVhlbrXgAAqxHv.jpg
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That was a Trump label for China (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtVhlbrXgAAqxHv.jpg) and here’s one for Mexico https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtVhpYVXEAAUO8N.jpg
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“The decline of religion contributes to the unleashing of baser instincts.”
Horse manure!
If anything the “decline of religion” has helped the “human” in humanity to thrive. Believing in the falsehoods of 2500 year old Middle East desert tribal myths and contradictions cannot prevent “the unleashing of baser instincts” as believing in falsehoods can only result in delusional thinking. Until we throw off the yoke and blinders of “religion” we will have “base” instincts.
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I am basing my view on the work of Max Weber; it is not about the nature of religion or whether religion has value or not. All cultures have some form of explaining the unknown; and it often functions as a social control mechanism. I know too well that a lot of atrocities have been committed in the name of religion. The Crusades, Spanish Inquisition and jihad all come to mind.
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I have been writing about the media for decades, and I saw the change begin there — drama =murder, became the norm. CSI, Law * Order , Criminal Minds, were not merely shows about crime solving. They offered children an our citizens a look at really deranged minds… as ‘entertainment.’
I saw ‘Father Knows Best’, and ‘The Brady Bunch’, Andy Griffith, and The Beverly Hillbillies, replaced by mean-spirited sit-coms, where even the women have mean-mouths. Seinfeld led the pack with the Simposn not far behind, and if annoys you have ever needed to vomit, then turn on Tosh-0 or South Park… head, i know..satire. And America’s Funniet Videos and Ridiculousness are just plain vindictive.
If you want to see the trend in full bloom, spend some time watching the Disney channel or other ‘kids’ shows’ on YA channels, and see how often the ‘drama’ of an entire episode revolves around tricking or hurting someone — followed at the end, with an insincere “Gee, I am so sorry,” after the principal of a parent uncovers the deed.
The values that replaced our ancient values, were those of the advertisers… “you deserve the best” became a mantra (even if you do nothing to earn it, you get an award.) ‘Just Do IT” get the job done… mindless of the collateral damage became something to admire.. a.la Rambo.
Get your remote and channel hop.
I gave this as an exercise to an 8th grade social studies class in the eighties!. Make a mark in column each time you see a gun, an explosion, or an aggressive act, and a special column for nasty remarks spoken as ‘jokes,’ or meant to be ‘funny.’
How many movies or shows can you find that do no revolve around horror, murder, kidnapping, violence? How often do you move from channel to channel, and encounter the a guy with a gun… and these days, show after show with ‘tough gals’ who carry guns and kick ass. .. I mean, we all know how women just love to do this.
And then there is West World, a show about A.I. developing self-awareness … where violence and bloodshed is the draw. In a way, it nails the ancient need of some males to kill.
And read Jerry Mander’s “In The Absence of the Sacred;’ written decades ago, this fascinating book nails this moment time in time, when the values that once benefited a society — those engendered by family, neighborhood, community, and religion- were replaced by Mad-men’s values!
http://www.scottlondon.com/reviews/mander.html
Or read Vance Packard’s “‘The Hidden Persuaders'” written in the sixties it predicted the psychological effects of the hidden messages on television.
http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc1004/article_903.shtml
Add the meanness of the internet, where anarchy rules, and you have a society where more middle-school kids die from suicide then from car accidents.
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“it nails the ancient need of some males to kill.”
Man oh man (no not woman oh woman), two horse manures for one thread!
Where did you come up with that nonsense Susan?
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Hi se
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Hi señor Swacker:
Yes, I agree with your disagreement of that sentence.
However, the other 95% assessment from Susan is accurate. Please accept Susan’s true fact which has been manipulated and poisoned by calculated puppet master who is like the giant ROOT of greed into the ground that cover this Earth.
I love and treasure your expression “all shall pass!”
Respectfully yours,
May
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Darwin, and the bottle neck. What happens when you put a male into a box all day. He goes from one box to another, enduring the loss of power,of dominance –this mammal whose very survival through eons depended on skills for aggressive responses.
Mankind and womankind have adapted to the modern culture in the civilized world, but one only has to look at the middle east to observe the reality. The right wing, has infiltrated the psyches of very dissatisfied white men, and this is not going to be over , even if Trump loses….and I am not the only one who is seeing this.
Come on, Duane, football, and all the sports that provide some relief, and all those warrior video games… not for girls (although there are those who drawn to this).
I have neither the time nor inclination to go to sources for what I said.
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I recommend Neil Postman’s 2 books Amusing Ourselves to Death and Technopoly. They are fun to read and more relevant today than when they were written!
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Excellent reads!
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I share the author’s sadness. However, I see the same level of ‘mean-ness’ from the Democratic supporters as well. No one party can claim the other is to blame. We as a nation need to do some soul-searching and stop pointing the finger outwardly. Who are we as a people?
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American has always been spelled with a ME and an I. There is no WE in America!
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Hi señor Swacker:
If you flip letter “m” upwards, you will have “w”
In other word, if we, voters stop “T” (=Trump = teasing),then we can have “C” (=Clinton = clarity). Hopefully, with clarity, we can sustain our humanity within America [=within “me” or “I”, = “you”]. May
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As a few other stalwarts on this blog, I’m not with you on the Clinton bandwagon, but share many thoughts, ideas, and feelings that many of us, WE experience.
By the same token if you invert the “w” in Swacker you get Smacker which spell check and automated programs will suggest instead of my name-LOL!
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You said,”American has always been spelled with a ME and an I. There is no WE in America!”
That makes me sad, because I remember an America that operated around the idea of we. yes, I am educated and know there was a second America that would agree with you. But, I grew up in a Brooklyn Neighborhood where Bernie Sanders lived.
We were classmates, and although I do not know him personally, I know that we studied history together and read the same books. I still have them. “The Federalist Papers,” “The American Presidency” and we both listened to Larry Storch explain the vision for our nation.
I think that the concept of “WE’ has been deliberately removed from what we see and watch on that window on the world. I wrote commentary here on how this value of me before you, and collateral damage be damned, was careful plotted and planned by using tv. The barons and kins watched for a long time, for ways to do it, what loigharcs always do… take over.
They never dreamed of the internet, but when it came on the scene they saw the opportunity to make lies the new truth. You see, the TRUTH is that we are a good people, a kind people, when we stand tog ether against prejudice and injustice.
I think there is a deliberate ploy to make us feel alone, so they can scare us to death with bogeymen, and false issues and even falser equivalencies.
I think Paul Krugman wrote very smart piece on where we are right now –how the billionaire class and the extreme right is pushing the limits, to see where they can go. The ‘me first’ they have carefully constructed on tv and on the anarchy of the internet.
Krugman says it better than I can, and he ends up by saying:
“The moral of the story is that appeasing the modern American right is a losing proposition. Nothing you do convinces them that you’re being fair, because fairness has nothing to do with it. The right long ago ran out of good ideas that can be sold on their own merits, so the goal now is to remove merit from the picture.”
I will repost my comment on THE ABSENCE OF THE SCARED values of our past and how tv made it happen.
Make the WE happen ,Duane. I try to do that.
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In fact, scroll up and you will find my comment at 10:56 am.
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NPR’s Fresh Air program on November 3 was enlightening. The interview was with writer George Packer who took a look at how the Trump is manipulating the Republican Party with “mustard gas” bullying tactics put into place by Newt Gingrich. VERY meanspirited, indeed. http://www.npr.org/2016/11/03/500457909/the-dangerous-volatile-game-trump-plays-with-the-white-working-class
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There is also an NPR podcast on how the wealthy think: http://www.npr.org/2016/10/25/499213698/whats-it-like-to-be-rich-ask-the-people-who-manage-billionaires-money
Fascinating! It really confirms a lot of feelings that have been expressed at one time or another on this blog.
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I recommend the NPR Fresh Air interview on Nov 3 with writer George Packer. Packer takes a look at how Trump is benefiting from “mustard gas” bullying tactics put into place by Newt Gingrich. Purposeful and VERY mean-spirited indeed.
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Gingrich was given this tactics by the REFs.. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/31/opinion/working-the-refs.html?_r=0
the right wing extremists, working to undo our democracy over decades… it is a plan and it works… and now, they are busy taking over the schools so they can teach the kids their version of history… and everything else.
Krugman nails the guys behind the curtain who give that orange monster the news. Did That snake Gulliana knew what Comey was about to do. Rudy boasted on tv that in 2 days there would be bombshell news. He knew! (Rachel Maddow has the footage).
Even before Comey released it— that they are going after Hillary and linking her to a sexual predator, through Weiner’s wife…. 8 days before a national election.
Seriously.. I am a playwright, and I could not conjure up a plot with such machinations.
Seems to me that this is ‘pushing’ treason, interfering with a national election
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YES.
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http://www.npr.org/2016/11/03/500457909/the-dangerous-volatile-game-trump-plays-with-the-white-working-class
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I am sorry I have been slow to respond. I am out trying to keep Colorado blue…canvassing for Hillary.
Quickly and shortly, I would never make excuses for the treatment of the slaves and Indians. I thought I made that clear in the post. I am referring in the main to the recent incivility that has taken over the dialogue in our country. I am not a Pollyanna by any means, but in my personal life I have found much more gets done by treating people with kindness and respect. And you can actually feel good about yourself and others when you treat them as you wish to be treated. Really, the Golden Rule. Not happening in today’s world. If you think this election doesn’t matter, I hope you don’t have to rely on government services for much.
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Thanks for fighting the good fight and I totally concur with your last sentence and the main thrust of your original article. Here’s hoping Amendment 69 passes, it would be revolutionary if it actually gets instituted in Colorado. T. R. Reid is one of the key figures in pushing for universal health care.
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This election is all about false equivalences and ends justifies the means. I agree with you. Civility is preferred. I see no value right now looking backwards other than to avoid past mistakes. But issues like slavery happened and are no longer accepted which should be seen as a step forward. Whether “white privilege”, “welfare queens”, or “Jew-S-A” – the dialog has been vulgar, crude, and hateful. It seems all about anger and blaming some other group to justify the anger. Nothing constructive is happening. It is just a bunch of people shouting at each other.
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Abortionists are the meanest.
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I beg to differ. I think it’s anti-abortionists who are “the meanest.” They want to impose their own religious beliefs on those whose religions don’t outlaw abortions, they have no respect for a woman’s right to choose what happens to her own body, they place more value on the fetus than the living child, and some think it’s just fine to murder those who work at clinics where abortions are provided to the women who choose to have them.
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How can this conversation still be taking place.
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We may be witnessing the dawn of a new Nazi era (Lubic’s Law: There are exceptions to Godwin’s Law). If we survive it, we’ll need something analogous to the Center for Disease Control to engineer a vaccine for this socio-political disease that all societies are vulnerable to. The virus has not been wiped out.
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We should all remind ourselves, our families and friends about the significant role of the Walton’s, in driving down the wealth of Americans, which has led to anger and, to a clawing, out of desperation. The Walton’s drove out, community-owned retail, the effect of which, is widely visible in the red states and Moore’s Brexit states. They drove prices to suppliers, like Huffy, so low, it forced production to move to other nations, where labor is exploited and safety and healthy concerns are ignored. The Walton’s pay their employees a pittance, forcing other taxpayers to absorb their social costs. All 3 Walton actions, compounded to eliminate the beneficial economic effect of money velocity.
The anger and frustration of a system rigged against them, which is new (within the past 3-4 decades), to white men, is at the doorstep of Wall Street. The financial sector drags down GDP, forcing labor to work, shackled by the greed of the richest 0.1%. The worker is cracked, with the whip, to produce ever more, knowing the rewards for productivity increases, will go, in entirety, to corporate owners and their heirs. The rich are unreachable in their wealthy enclaves so, the angry often act on their rage, within their own communities.
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Reducing economic inequality is probably part of the vaccine.
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Think of all the academic work that’s been done about Hitler and his ilk. Yet we’ve failed to make this knowledge operational. The K-12 curriculum is where we need to make the critical knowledge operational. It’s no good just to have it in tomes and on Google. We need to plant it in people’s heads so it can form them to be wiser, better humans. We’ve failed at this.
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Yes and Hillary Clinton sat on their board and somehow she is the answer to all of our problems. Wake up! The system is rigged and both sides are bought and paid for. Whomever wins makes no difference the same o’l gravy train will keep on pushing forward and average Americans will continue to get the shaft.
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Wake up! There will be a big difference in SCOTUS choices. Trump will choose far right wingers while Hillary will appoint people like Ginsburg, Breyer (Bill’s picks) or Sotomayor and Kagan (Obama). Though the GOP claims they will obstruct HRC’s choices for the next 4 years.
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Joe it makes no damn difference who is appointed to the Supreme Court the same individuals will remain in power. That means lower wages shittier jobs/schools debt enslavement and more income inequality. You are supporting a candidate who gives secret speeches to the tune of 250K to the very people who damn near bankrupted the economy six years ago and you are naive enough to think she is going to lift a finger for the average American? Give me a break!
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The Real One,
You don’t think it matters which party appoints Supreme Court justices? You don’t think the decisions of the Court matter?
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You bought the con. There is a big difference in the choices. Hillary is definitely one of the insiders, but because she is, she can effect change. Anyone who knows her real history,her dogged determination to do the right thing for children, for civil rights knows that as THE FIRST WOMAN to reach this office… she will be seen by history for what she does.
All Trump , Ryan and the clones of the right wing, want is to end our democracy, and change history.
Your cynicism makes me sad, because so many have been sold the hillary- killery- shillery. Aw she gives secret speeches… boo hoo, what a bitch.
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There’s something to this. But on the other hand, this is also an “it was ever thus” story. The irony is that despite our increasing incivility, we may be less physically violent than ever.
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FLERP,
I am not at all sure there is less violence than 50 years ago.
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It’s more complicated depending on where you draw the line and what subset of “violent crime” you’re measuring, but generally, violent crime in the U.S. has fallen to levels that are in the neighborhood of what they were in the mid- to early-60s. And they are absolutely lower than they were 40 years ago. The ebb in violence in America, which few would have predicted 40 years ago, is one of the big stories of American culture over the last few decades. Although it’s not the impression one gets from the Drudge Report or the evening news.
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Here’s an article about trends in violent crime rates in the US:
https://www.brennancenter.org/blog/americas-faulty-perception-crime-rates
Crime went way up in the Sixties and Seventies. It has come down since 1991. That decrease in crime actually coincided with some of the pop culture trends lamented by an earlier commentator.
The recent upsurge in homicides in Chicago looks like an anomaly that’s partly related to shifts in gang configurations in neighborhoods (and may even be related to public school closings under Arne Duncan and Rahm Emmanuel).
To the commenters who don’t like today’s TV . . . The Andy Griffith Show is my all-time favorite TV show. The moral wisdom of Andy Taylor, and of Jed Clampett, for that matter, is hard to top. But there are lots of good reasons why Father Knows Best, Leave It To Beaver couldn’t, and shouldn’t, be made today. I’m not a big fan of cheap putdown humor, either, but have you ever read a Shakespeare comedy? For that matter, a Shakespeare tragedy? Sex and violence and mean behavior are staples of classic literature. (If you ever wondered where Quentin Tarrentino’s ideas came from, check out the plays of Thomas Middleton. If you’re looking for gratuitous violence, check out the first book of Samuel. Or the Iliad.) If I were in charge of the ELA curriculum, I’d save Romeo and Juliet for grade 11 or 12, given the subject matter, but I’m not in favor of scrapping the play because of its dirty jokes, violence, sexism, child abuse, and ambivalent view of suicide. I’m not in favor of shutting down the theaters, as the Puritans did. That was one of the darkest eras of English history.
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What? 60 million innocent lives slaughtered since ’72.
And you talk about violence?
Killing begets killing.
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About a week ago, the McClatchy news service reported, in a local city newspaper, on Homeland Security’s warning about a rise in extreme right wing terrorism, resulting from a faltering economy.
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That’s a great story for Trump. Economy bad, terrorism increasing.
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More nuanced. Napolitano apologized and pulled the report, to please the GOP. Trump’s plan for a bad economy is eliminating regulation. I assume some GOP voters understand the result of that plan, will be greater multinational corporate control. Terrorism, for Trump die-hards, is limited to threats from immigrants (unless they are attractive women).
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I bought the con? Oh please look no further than Honduras, Haiti, Libya and the likes. I would love to hear you tell the people of those Countries just how great Hillary Clinton is. Open your eyes! Hillary is a disgrace and as ussual the choices for President boil down to two terrible choices. By the way, it’s not the speeches she gave that bother me, its the people she gave them to; the same SOB’s that tanked our economy and ruined the lives of millions of Americans that’s where the loyalties of your wonderful candidate lie.
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You should vote for Trump, Real One.
We have never had a fascist president.
Go for it
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Who tanked our economy?
automation is responsible for 88 percent of the jobs lost in manufacturing.
Ronald Reagan – the national debt was $168.8 billion when he moved into the White House. When he left that debt was $2.6 Trillion.
George H. W. Bush – When this GOP president left the White House, the debt was increased by an additional $ 1.4 Trillion.
The 1999 repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act effectively removed the operation between investment banks and depository banks in the Untied States. President Bill Clinton has been blamed by the Alt-Right for this without any mention of the fact that Congress passed this repeal with an overwhelming, veto proof vote.
The three co-sponsors of the repeal were all Republicans. The final version of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act passed the House by a vote of 362-57 and the Senate by a vote of 90-8. This made the bill “veto proof”, meaning that if Clinton had decided to veto, the bill would have been passed anyways.
George W. Bush added an additional $6.44 Trillion to the national debt for a total of almost $12 Trillion when he left the White House. This Bush also started the war in Iraq (based on lies of WMDs) and Afghanistan that we are still fighting today. The interest on the national debt that Bush left behind has added up to more than $11 Trillion by itself, but the Alt-Right blames Obama for what he inherited mostly from Reagan and the two Bushes.
The U.S. Senate’s Levin–Coburn Report concluded that the crisis was the result of “high risk, complex financial products; undisclosed conflicts of interest; the failure of regulators, the credit rating agencies, and the market itself to rein in the excesses of Wall Street.”
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Mamie–Chris Hedges is prescient &, that said, has always scared me out of my wits. (Also, have you seen him? Pretty dour.)
It’s always best, though, to be well-read &, thus, well- prepared (I was a Girl Scout!) for whatever comes our way, so I recommend reading his work, as well.
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I have the same reaction to Hedges. He’s right on so many things but after reading him, one becomes very depressed. That scolding and sour expression on his face doesn’t help things. I wish he would do something positive, like campaign for universal health care instead of being Mr. Doom and Gloom.
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Hi Retired & Joe,
Yes, I have read (and seen) a lot of Chris Hedges. He is sour and dour, but unfortunately he is right on for the most part. Agreed.
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I like this piece, but I am not sure it is fair to try to portray the Framers as so removed from petty and venal politics.
In fact, they were often vicious in the extreme, using pen names to savage each other in the press. During the election of 1800, Jefferson’s supporters said that John Adams had a “hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.” In return, the Adams camp said of Jefferson: “a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father.”
And we could go on with the back door whisper campaigns against Aaron Burr at least allows us to enjoy the brilliance of Lin Manuel Miranda’s take on the story.
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Well, the origins of the MEan generation of US leadership are very complicated, but if I had to boil it down, in this era, I think we should look at what has taken place from Reagan onward, since he thought it was enough for most of us to get just a trickle down of pennies from the increased wealth of a handful, which was backed by his base of right-wingers claiming to have a lock on ethics as “the moral majority”, even though they lacked empathy for anyone different from them, as demonstrated by their unbridled expressions on hatred on talk radio and what Duane calls “Fux” TV –which emerged after the trashing of the FCC’s Fairness Doctrine. I don’t want to downplay the contributions from the Bushes, or others like Obama, but we can’t forget the catalyst for that which came from Bill Clinton, in his take over of the Democratic party with supposed “centrists”, including billionaires and politicians like Rahm Emanuel who see the party’s liberal base as “f*cking retarded,” because now we have “greed is good” Gordon Gekkos from both parties running our country.
I’m no Pollyanna but of the two major candidates, I think grandma Hillary is our best shot at turning it all around. Trump is so far removed from having any understanding of the plight of the common man, genuine empathy for the struggling masses, or behaving as a civil servant with aplomb, that I don’t even want to discuss his candidacy. However, I’m not willing to risk losing the possibility of a humane majority on SCOTUS by giving my POTUS vote to a decent third party candidate.
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Thank you veteran educator, famous writer and Guru in political information, Mr. Lloyd Lofthouse:
I really appreciate your provided information how Conservative Party left big debt behind them after leaving their posts for Democrat clean up after them.
In the same vein, those today bottom less greedy Charter Schools’ PRIVATE OWNERS who loot PUBLIC EDUCATION FUND then they will left BIG MESS behind them = closing school, destroying teaching profession, creating FAKE education graduate degree, manufacturing TFA (teaching for awhile, NOT teach for America, BUT AFRICA).
In Canada, Liberal Party has a big surplus after leaving the post to COMMON SENSE CONSERVATIVE PARTY in 2006. Guess what? All CORRUPTED BIG + FOREIGN businesses donate millions of dollars to the Conservative Party and LOOT AWAY BILLIONS of dollars in all kinds of infrastructure CONTRACTS FROM MUNICIPAL TO FEDERAL LEVELS.
In short, I hope that all citizens should be cultivate well, that regardless of any ideology,
1) There is no pain, then there is no gain
2) Being nice, but need to work hard in any profession to achieve success.
3) Any short cut will yield dangerous and unpleasant result.
4) Whenever people notice that business owners donate money with a string attached like contracts, please keep in mind that PRIVATE OWNERS will expect to gain in at least 100 or 1000 multiple time of their donating amount.
5) IN BUSINESS, THERE IS NOTHING FOR FREE.
The best example is in Donald trump’s doing business practice = cheat tax, trick trade people, threat illegal immigrants, lying with fake promotion to workers, bullying minority like women and color people, and selling voters’ naivety with empty and unethical promises like locking up people who against them…Back2basic
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