Donald Trump spoke recently to the American Legion and promised that he would restore the teaching of patriotism in American schools. No one can say anymore that he never mentions public schools.
A Trump administration, he said, would consult with the military veterans’ group to promote “pride and patriotism” in schools – “teaching respect” for the US flag and pledge of allegiance.
“That flag deserves respect, and I will work with American Legion to help to strengthen respect for our flag,” said Trump. “You see what’s happening. It’s very, very sad. And, by the way, we want young Americans to recite the pledge of allegiance.
“One country, under one constitution, saluting one American flag … always saluting,” he added. “In a Trump administration, I plan to work directly with the American Legion to uphold our common values and to help ensure they are taught to America’s children. We want our kids to learn the incredible achievements of America’s history, its institutions and its heroes.”
The call to “advance the cause of Americanism – not globalism” came as Trump reiterated the anti-immigration message at the heart of his campaign, which delighted core supporters and dismayed his few remaining Latino allies, who had expected a tack towards moderation.
You can be sure that Trump doesn’t know that the federal government is prohibited by law from interfering with or influencing what is taught in public schools. Since Arne Duncan ignored that part of the law by promoting Common Core, Trump must assume he can ignore it too.

I’m not a patriot for that flag. I’m a patriot for the U.S. Construction and what it was meant to stand for but has struggled to achieve against constant resistance because of the Donald Trumps that live in this country.
Blind obedience to the flag does not translate into support for the U.S. Constitution. That flag is not the Constitution. That flag can easily become a symbol — if it already hasn’t — for tyranny once the Constitution has been subverted and stops protecting most of the people from oligarchs like Bill Gates, the Koch brothers, Eli Broad, the Walton family, Wall Street and hedge funds, etc.
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Well-said.
But Trump does have a point: a proper understanding of and appreciation for what America IS is not getting transmitted. The Right thinks America was set up as a Christian theocracy, the Left thinks it’s the second-coming of the Nazis, and the muddled middle (at least half of my working class neighbors), think our government is trying to clandestinely kill them. Something’s going wrong with our curriculum.
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NOTHING is wrong with the History curricula, Ponderosa. What IS wrong is the propaganda spewed by Trump and his ilk, along with the left and its ilk, about the nation.
As a history teacher myself, I am infuriated with Trump’s not-too-hidden disrespect of what I do, as well as your insinuations. I don’t think you meant to do that; but I’m really tired of the insinuations that history teachers aren’t, “teaching patriotism” or whatever.
It also doesn’t help that history has been cut to ribbons since NCLB came about. I had a student in 9th grade ask me last week if Alaska and Florida are countries. Most of these students had NO social studies instruction in elementary school, so I have to start from the beginning in 8th grade with things that used to be learned in 3rd-6th grades. I can’t teach all of the basics AND the more in-depth history that I would like to, and neither can any teacher in that situation. Imagine the students getting all the way to 8th grade without any reading or math instruction. That’s what is happening to social studies education, frankly.
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Lloyd .
I’m back . I mean your always right why ? Because you fight for the flag and you don’t scare tell the true as others . Donald Trump , Bill gates are Dictadors but in a free Country ; but no for so long . No body leave forever they will regreted but after hurt millions , Castro killed maybe a million but hitlers more and this guys can make despairs the whole humanity .
Maybe I’m wrong but I read that United Nations planned kill 80% of the world populations . I belive it , Jorge W. Busch went to Iraq even , United Nations try to stop it . Bush family and his body’s Diden’t care , they are sicopats !!!
The hate even the’r own family , kids are victims in Chartets Schools , because thoses criminals for money fight kids and kill them !!
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“Most of these students had NO social studies instruction in elementary school, so I have to start from the beginning in 8th grade with things that used to be learned in 3rd-6th grades.”
That’s part of what I mean by “something’s wrong with our history curricula”. There are good history teachers out there; I’m sure you’re one of them (I wouldn’t count myself in that number). But don’t you think we teachers should do some introspection when so many Americans know so little, or “know” only ludicrous ideas about civics and history? Is it just the dearth of history in the elementary schools (it could be)? Is the average level of history instruction pretty low (e.g. by being soporific, or hijacked by cranks)? It would be interesting to reconstruct the inputs received by a conspiracy theorist Trump supporter over his lifetime, on the one hand, and the inputs received by a balanced appreciator of the pros and cons of the American system, on the other. Maybe history teachers don’t account for much of the difference. Maybe it’s the parents. Or exposure to Rush Limbaugh.
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It’s a lot of things, Ponderosa, that cause this low level of knowledge. But as teachers, we can only do so much! I have students for about 120 hours a year. That pales in comparison to the huge levels of vitriol that are being thrown about in the media and elsewhere. The propaganda is enormous, and some of the candidates in this cycle are making it much worse. The echo chamber of everyone shouts the same talking points to each other reinforces stereotypes and misinformation and makes the problem even worse.
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Mr. Trump defames a legitimate war hero (John McCain was a hero whether you like him or not), debases a Gold Star Mother who lost her son, actually takes the Purple Heart earned by a wounded veteran and smugly remarks “it was so easy to get” and he is held up as a great “patriot” and national savior? Meanwhile a little known football player engages in a minor protest during the National Anthem and he is labeled today’s Benedict Arnold? http://wsautter.com/
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The “color” of complaint…
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To : Mr walt
From : No body { non- English Speaker }
Mr : Wault .
I conceded my right to translate my comments ( Donald’s Trump is arrogant person as Adolf Hitler )
Be more agresive next time !
TRUMP vs HITLER
1- Ideas about race
Trump is more obsessed
2-Hight :
Trump is 6’2
Hitler was a 5’9
3- Where the’r born .
Trump : USA
Hitler. : Austria
4- USA racist history vs Austria
USA history talk by them self !
5- Fortune
Born Trump billionaire
Hither very poor
6- Powefull Army USA vs Austria and Germany
Trump as a president can destroy the whole B planet , USA lead top 1 list of weapons of mass destruction .
7- Power of ambition and selfish
Trump .
8- The litle know football players ( despectibe Fron Your Part )
Colin Kaepernick is a great Atleta pro –
mayor league baseball player and pro. – NFL
Kapernick deserve more respect , next time be more
Agresive or despextic If you are a righterous person .
Donal Trump hate Kapernick as he hate me . Call me nobody , I’m not deserve you call me a litle know but you shoul know that I’m an very well know nation wide . My name is Reibel Castillo , I born in Cuba and Sr: ( Charters School vs Public Cuban Schools )
Cuban Education Is tops in the
Worlds by the way I never was abused there the way an Chater School here in Hialeah Dade Counry Fl .
Geogle ( topic – Reibel Castillo file a law sue Againts Charter school in hialeah Or Reibel Castillo victim of cruel polices Arasment in Hialeah )
Jeb Bush know me
Donald trump
The city mayor
Us state Atorney
Rick Scot
Robby Mock
Diane Ravitvh help my a lot ( My 13 years old Dawuter love Diane because Diane love kids and my Dauther exchange coments with her . Thanks God that Diane and Word press my kids are proud of America but Charters schools only people as Trump can Suport that sistem ( the new experiment , kids are been adoctrined such that Hiakeah Edycation Acadenic . Inc . 70 plus % of kids are been victims of cruel abuse and teachers can’t talk .
Mr: Walt ; I’m not rude Sr .
I’m honest
I speak what is on my main ,
even if you can’t handle the true !
You are a humble person very polite . I was too but I have to be agresive because . I was told a bunch of time than my future is same as Martin L. King .
I trust in God but I won’t forgiven those criminals , I was told after an Spanish Television Chanel interview me asking what about Donald trump and Chatets Schools ? I told Trump , is another dictator but worts than hitler , and Charters schools are under the power of billionaries corporations . An public figures told me by phone than my life was in leopargy because I connected Trumps with Charters Crimes .
Mr: Walt . Welcome on board or stay away but spread, spread as JW spread the God Worlds well , I’m asking to much because the Wed with more than 700 languages is JW ( jw. org )
Microsoft has 17 . JW wed is no profit organization but Microsoft owner ( Mr: Gate is so lover of money than Charters school are free of Jehovah’s witnesses)
Mr: won’t vote for Trump because hitlert killed
6 millions of Jews .
TRUMP vs HITLER
The’r is not record unbrakable .
The next Dictador is going to be so arrogant to the point to declare His world to God .
I’m asking to God only one thing , I have fe that very soon a nice person will provide me what I need to own my owl blog ..
Because that is exactly what I need more people join my peaceful war . More kids will be free , I have kids as millions black peoples only one leader force to the suprem court rule on favor of the Afro American . Mr : kind take 12 years to be a lawyer , what a merit , respect for him .
3 years toock me to fight by my self with the stringers lions the law . 3 years spreading , speeding and researching , 3 years I challenge any Lawyer and I’ll defeat as I just did , Tigers ? The tigers of Hiakeah Educatuon Academic . Inc . Are using illegals weapons such as inactive companies ( fakes companies ; inserting – deleting ( names – Adress )
What about Coaches getting paid as exsecutives ?
Or executives working as Computer’s Technician ?
Sincerely : You are the first person than I provided the lasted discovers , well but never I privide .. The winer Card is on hold to give to Hilary Team .
TRUMP WON’T GET THE VICTORY .
THE WHITE HOUSE SEAT GOT NAME ALL READY !
Mrs. Hilary is the next president of United State of Ameica !
For sure , For sure ; For sure !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sickening. (Trump, not Dr. Ravitch)
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Amy Herren : Don’t worry , Trump won’t go no where , feel free ; safe and happy because God hate Dictadors ( Trump hate kids )
May God bless you as many others like Diane 🙂
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Ah yes, Donald Trump, the education president………..and then my head explodes. Jingoism, chauvinism and a patriotism polluted by intolerance, bias and small-mindedness.
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You mean like this:
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Trump will teach patriotism? He should get out of the race then and give the U. S. a chance to really get great.
Real patriotism is living up the best ideals of democracy. The ideals which we proclaim, and way too often do not live up to, are the things for which the U. S. has been respected and honored. That Trump is so reviled by the leaders of other nations should tell people something. It is beyond belief that he has hoodwinked so many Americans. THAT is the scary part. Demagogues
have always been with us and will continue to be but that so many could be so bamboozled is scary.
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Donald Trump have no clue what patriotism does mean , but referenced adroctinament as Dictadors ;
Castro in Cuba , all Dictadors focuses in kids
Washing brains of kids is what America should knows !!!!
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Trump should teach us how to pay a doctor to claim we have heel spurs despite an active high school record that including play lots of sports. That was his strategy to avoid the draft. Then, he was lucky in the draft lottery, unlike my brother. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html
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Correction: included playing
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Donald Trump have no clue what patriotism does mean , but referenced adroctinament as Dictadors ;
Castro in Cuba , all Dictadors focuses in kids
Washing brains of kids is what America should knows !!!!
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Reblogged this on Matthews' Blog.
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Okay. Start by teaching all U.S. students the TRUE, UNVARNISHED history of the U.S., as in this article about the national anthem:
Historian Gerald Horne Explains Why No One Should Stand for the National Anthem
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/09/05/historian-gerald-horne-explains-why-no-one-should-stand-for-the-national-anthem/
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Do you have ANY idea what social studies teachers go through trying to teach history, geography, civics, etc?
We teachers in the social sciences are ALWAYS on the chopping block, not just because social studies are being scaled back in the face of “all math and reading, all the time” instruction, but also because the subjects we teach are fraught with minefields of people’s opinions on what should and shouldn’t be taught.
I have found myself looking at losing my teaching license for this very reason. I can’t give more information here, unfortunately, but let’s just say that Advanced Placement and my state and district cannot get together on what should be taught in a social science class, and I’ve gotten caught in the middle. Happens to social studies teachers WAY more often than people want to admit.
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If Trump is president, even math teachers will have to stop using the term “radicals” and be forced to teach algebra was invented by Noah on the ark rather than a Muslim in Bagdad.
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I pledge allegiance
To the flag
Of the United Corporations and ALEC of America
And the plutocracy
For which it stands
One nation
Under the 1%
With liberty and justice
For the uber wealthy
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Have you ever noticed that those who fervently insist on the teaching of their version of patriotism are often the least patriotic?
Donald Trump is a case in point. He knows little about American history and the Constitution, but he demands the recitation of the Pledge. The thing is, people like Trump – and there are plenty of them – want the Pledge to be recited, but they – themselves – don’t believe in “liberty and justice for all.” If there’s any doubt about the truth of that statement, try reading the Republican Party platform.
In 1995 in Virginia,a group of conservative Republican legislators introduced a bill “to recite daily the pledge of allegiance to the American flag at the beginning of the school day.” This bill was blatantly unconstitutional.
Interestingly, George Allen was governor of Virginia at the time; he campaigned on a platform of “law and order” and “Champion” schools. The “Champions” schools he envisioned were schools with high standardized test scores. To get there, Allen jettisoned a new, progressive state curriculum that contained democratic citizenship as one of its core elements and replaced it with a content-specific curriculum buttressed with accountability-heavy Standard of Learning tests. Guess how those test score results played out across the state?
Allen morphed his “success” as governor into a U.S. Senate seat. He was a typical conservative: opposed to abortion and gay marriage and environmental legislation and expanded health care, and in favor of corporate and upper bracket tax cuts, the privatization of Social Security, and flag “desecration” legislation. It was Allen’s “Macaca” moment that perhaps best illustrated his thinking about “liberty and justice for all:”
The Pledge bill in Virginia got altered. It required that each public school day begin by a recitation of the Pledge. The Virginia Code now reads, in part:
• “School boards must require the daily recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in
every classroom.”
• “All students are required to learn the Pledge of Allegiance and to demonstrate such knowledge.”
And while students cannot be compelled to individually recite the Pledge, “Students who are exempt from reciting the Pledge must remain quietly standing or sitting at their desks while others recite the Pledge, not making any display that disrupts or distracts others who are reciting the Pledge.”
Click to access inf107a.pdf
Are these state requirements actually followed? Ask high school seniors and they’ll tell you that they were required to say the Pledge in elementary and middle school. Ask them what their understanding of the words, and most don’t really know what “allegiance” means or what a “republic” is.
The Pledge recently became an issue in Florida, and the person responsible for making it an issue was (is) a Trump supporter. Conservative nitwit Tod Starnes wrote about it at Fox News (read the comments too):
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/08/23/parents-fuming-over-pledge-allegiance-waiver.html
I’ve advocated for a long time on this blog that democratic citizenship should be the primary focus of pubic schooling. Not ACT or SAT scores. Not how many advanced Placement classes a student can take. And certainly not STEM.
The rise of Trump and what he stands for — authoritarianism and white nationalism — makes my case even more imperative.
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Democracy: agreed. The reason for public education, the reason that everyone in the community is taxed to support it, is to develop citizens. People ready and able to sit on a jury and judge their peers. People capable of voting thoughtfully about who should be our leaders. People with the knowledge and judgement to participate in the community and to make decisions about issues. People prepared to lead and to act.
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I’ll still go with my summary of the purpose of public education culled from the state constitutions’ rationale for public education:
“The purpose of public education is to promote the welfare of the individual so that each person may savor the right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the fruits of their own industry.”
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oops, maybe this works better….Calvin and Hobbes and The Pledge:
https://www.google.com/search?q=calvin+and+hobbes+pledge+of+allegiance&biw=1144&bih=860&tbm=isch&imgil=nZHh-6ve09UFYM%253A%253B4kvIV8fCaM2EEM%253Bhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.reddit.com%25252Fr%25252Fcomics%25252Fcomments%25252Fdttwe%25252Fcalvin_is_a_little_worried_about_the_pledge_of%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=nZHh-6ve09UFYM%253A%252C4kvIV8fCaM2EEM%252C_&usg=__cAy_qTmtovli56umKtd4PS7tm7U%3D&ved=0ahUKEwix8ZuK5PrOAhUCFx4KHRPKBRwQyjcIKg&ei=z7vOV_HNLoKueJOUl-AB#imgrc=5xyIrHWpNIYvnM%3A
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drex727.
DONALD TRUMPS BODYS ( REPUBLICANS PROMINRNTS , CORRUTS PUBLICS FIGURES HATE ME . ( FROM GOBERMENT CABINET )
I WAS INTERVIEW BY AN SPANISH CHANEL TELEVISION , I TOLD THAT TRUMP IS A DICTADOR .
AFTER THAT INTERVIEW I WAS TOLD BY A REPUBLICAN ( I WONT SAY HIS NAME )
I HAVE HIS PHONE , NAME AS I WILL NEVER FORGET .
HE TREAT ME AS FOR MY OWN SSFETY ( NEVER SAID NOTHING BAD AGAINDS DONALD TRUMP )
I READ VERY WEKL ENGLISH ( JUST IN CASE YOU CAN’T UNDERSTAND MY MESAGES )
I born in Cuba , grow up there , I can tell and this argument , I file a complain here in Down sought Dade county Fl
Hialeah Ediucation Academic . Inc ( corporation ( the chairman boards of members got criminal records )
The Charter pricincipal is a Dictador . Our kids Fisical and sex- Arasment for the principal and many others . He told that the abuse are in close doors and the charters principal told that the abuse where real but try me telling me bring your Lawer , my tigers are waiting .
drux727. I encouraged thaunds to geogle .
{ Reibel Castillo file a Law sue to a charter in Hisleah and Reibel Castillo complian ( Police of hialeah Arasmented agains Reibel Castillo} They treat my family Dictadors way’s ( Cops warned trespass me as my family , Hialeah Education Academic is stealing tax – payer money and Violeting rights , the principal after I complain why he kick me out from Slade park ( public ) He replay because you are smart , I’m smarter he told me you sued my school . Get out it the park he told me but right now ( HIS GRIEND TRUMP IS LIKE HIM ARROGANT ) 4 polices guarding him ( police report stay .. The principal won’t let this subject to join more parents to fallow him and join in his sue ( complain )
Is not clear ?
Statement admitted that more kids ; victims no only my kids . Right ?
The city police pulled over our cars more than 7 times why ?
My wife has a lesus titled on her name I got another my in my name . My wife was driving my car , after 7 pm . She was going to the bible study .
Inside the property at front of the main door and undercover car a Dogge silver , turn on it lights . The oficer , with his gone un the right hand ready ; only his left foot out side holding the’r noice device . He call my name ( Reibel Castillo get out of the car )
Is that not an horrendous Arasment Dictador’s way ?
Inside the building where my wife and kids workship God , security cameras ; recorded , friends of us ( spirituals Brothers ) walk out and the officer found his mistake and backing scaping front his misconduct ( Cruel abuse )
Almost kill a litle girl as others , one way and the exit is araunding the building )
My lexus was pulled over inside a property illegally , my car ( my wife driving blocking the Undercover silver dodge )
People get very up set specially me than after I arived . Why ? I’m tired of yours Arasment , I’m tired that my litle girl is on panic as my wife. I told to that officer and with a police uniform , hiding his Bach . Why do you do that?
Criminal you are here because your boss the city mayor want me because I sued his corrupt
bussines ( charter school )
strategic ) .
Now the US state Atorney in Talagasee , Rick Scot , police misconduct Deparment as the de
Deparment of child investigation also in Talagasee .
They are aware because I complained everywhere from internal unfear , Robert Carballo ( public school superintendent )
FDLE . My Lawyer send me a letter telling me . You own me nothing but I’m sorry I won’t represent any more .
Why ?
Well Lawyers don’t fight corrupts companies , specially protecting for the corrution and crimen organizations are connected here .
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drex727.
DONALD TRUMPS BODYS ( REPUBLICANS PROMINRNTS , CORRUTS PUBLICS FIGURES HATE ME . ( FROM GOBERMENT CABINET )
I WAS INTERVIEW BY AN SPANISH CHANEL TELEVISION , I TOLD THAT TRUMP IS A DICTADOR .
AFTER THAT INTERVIEW I WAS TOLD BY A REPUBLICAN ( I WONT SAY HIS NAME )
I HAVE HIS PHONE , NAME AS I WILL NEVER FORGET .
HE TREAT ME AS FOR MY OWN SSFETY ( NEVER SAID NOTHING BAD AGAINDS DONALD TRUMP )
I READ VERY WEKL ENGLISH ( JUST IN CASE YOU CAN’T UNDERSTAND MY MESAGES )
I born in Cuba , grow up there , I can tell and this argument , I file a complain here in Down sought Dade county Fl
Hialeah Ediucation Academic . Inc ( corporation ( the chairman boards of members got criminal records )
The Charter pricincipal is a Dictador . Our kids Fisical and sex- Arasment for the principal and many others . He told that the abuse are in close doors and the charters principal told that the abuse where real but try me telling me bring your Lawer , my tigers are waiting .
drux727. I encouraged thaunds to geogle .
{ Reibel Castillo file a Law sue to a charter in Hisleah and Reibel Castillo complian ( Police of hialeah Arasmented agains Reibel Castillo} They treat my family Dictadors way’s ( Cops warned trespass me as my family , Hialeah Education Academic is stealing tax – payer money and Violeting rights , the principal after I complain why he kick me out from Slade park ( public ) He replay because you are smart , I’m smarter he told me you sued my school . Get out it the park he told me but right now ( HIS GRIEND TRUMP IS LIKE HIM ARROGANT ) 4 polices guarding him ( police report stay .. The principal won’t let this subject to join more parents to fallow him and join in his sue ( complain )
Is not clear ?
Statement admitted that more kids ; victims no only my kids . Right ?
The city police pulled over our cars more than 7 times why ?
My wife has a lesus titled on her name I got another my in my name . My wife was driving my car , after 7 pm . She was going to the bible study .
Inside the property at front of the main door and undercover car a Dogge silver , turn on it lights . The oficer , with his gone un the right hand ready ; only his left foot out side holding the’r noice device . He call my name ( Reibel Castillo get out of the car )
Is that not an horrendous Arasment Dictador’s way ?
Inside the building where my wife and kids workship God , security cameras ; recorded , friends of us ( spirituals Brothers ) walk out and the officer found his mistake and backing scaping front his misconduct ( Cruel abuse )
Almost kill a litle girl as others , one way and the exit is araunding the building )
My lexus was pulled over inside a property illegally , my car ( my wife driving blocking the Undercover silver dodge )
People get very up set specially me than after I arived . Why ? I’m tired of yours Arasment , I’m tired that my litle girl is on panic as my wife. I told to that officer and with a police uniform , hiding his Bach . Why do you do that?
Criminal you are here because your boss the city mayor want me because I sued his corrupt
bussines ( charter school )
strategic ) .
Now the US state Atorney in Talagasee , Rick Scot , police misconduct Deparment as the de
Deparment of child investigation also in Talagasee .
They are aware because I complained everywhere from internal unfear , Robert Carballo ( public school superintendent )
FDLE . My Lawyer send me a letter telling me . You own me nothing but I’m sorry I won’t represent any more .
Why ?
Well Lawyers don’t fight corrupts companies , specially protecting for the corrution and crimen organizations are connected here .
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drext 727
DONALD TRUMP IS USING THE SAME ( EXACTLY AS CUBAN – RUSSIAN KIDS ADOCTRINAMENTS )
HATE OR HATE .
PLEASE .
REMEMBER I’M AN NON- ENGLISH SPEAKER BUT SPANISH IS EXCELENTE . MY ACADEMIC LEVEL . I GRADUATE IN A
PROMINENT RUSSIAN ACADEMIC LOCATED IN CUBA . NO MANY GRADUATED RIGHT THERE .
MODESTLY I CAN SAY MY ACADEMIC LEVEL IS LIKE YOUR BUT IN DIFERENTS AREA .
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Reibel….why are you blasting me with this?
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I am happy to hear Trump will have everyone pledge since we did this in my classroom for 30 plus years. Now will he close the Gulen Charters?
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Do the Gulen charters have American flags or Turkish flags?
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