Ken Bernstein is a social studies teacher in the D.C. area who has received numerous awards for his dedicated service. He writes extensively and blogs regularly for The Daily Kos. He is a deeply thoughtful and intelligent person who is passionate about teaching and public service. In this post, he analyzes Hillary Clinton’s views on education and acknowledges that she is woefully out of touch. Although Chelsea Clinton attended public schools in Arkansas, she enrolled in Sidwell Friends when her father became president. That was a full decade before the advent of high-stakes testing introduced by No Child Left Behind. Thus, Clinton has no idea how testing has spun out of control and become the master of education, a giant tail wagging the dog.
Not only her remarks on testing ill-informed, but so are her remarks about Common Core. Clearly she has no idea why opposition to Common Core is bipartisan and why so many parents and teachers oppose it. It would not be hard to find out why, but her education advisors don’t seem to know or haven’t shared what they know. I wish I could sit down with her for half an hour, but I don’t know how to make that happen.
Most puzzling is her insistence that she would have her children or grandchildren take the tests. She must know that she is saying this on an interview on Long Island, where more than 50% of parents opted out. Did she think she would win hearts and minds by belittling the parents who refuse to subject their children to meaningless tests? They are meaningless for reasons I stated in a post a few days ago; they have no instructional value as teachers learn nothing about what children know and don’t know. All they get is a score and a ranking for each child. That is not diagnostic. What is the point of learning that your child “failed” to meet the standard, but no one knows why? Also, some savvy parents have been informed that the passing mark was set so high that 70% of the children are supposed to fail. What parent would find that acceptable?
Her affection for charters is as ill-informed as her affection for testing and accountability. How could she take the endorsement of the nation’s two largest teachers’ unions and at the same time praise non-union charters (more than 90% of charters are non-union)? The biggest funders of charters fund them because they are non-union. Will she, as president, continue to pour hundreds of millions of dollars into the expansion of non-union charters? Someone should ask these questions.
Ken writes:
If by now you have grasped that I am not happy with this part of the interview with Newsday, you are correct. Were education the only issue on which I decided who to support for the Presidency, I might have real reservations — provided there was a candidate who showed a deeper understanding. In fact this cycle there is not, in either party, of ANY of those who were ever in the race.
Further, on almost all of the other issues important to me, Hillary Clinton’s experience, understanding of government and international issues, makes her far superior to anyone else who sought the Presidency this cycle.
I knew I would not be completely happy with her approach to education at the time I decided to support her….
I hope that when she becomes President, as I believe she will, Hillary Clinton will make sure that she includes the voices of teachers in (a) who she picks for Secretary of Education, (b) how her administration shapes it educational policy.
I know from others how good a listener Hillary Clinton can be.
I hope very much that she will apply that skill set and listen to different voices on education, because what I read in this interview with the editorial board was disappointing.

Hillary is Wall St like the hedgefunds who own the charters
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As Albert Einstein said, if you can’t explain it to your grandma, you don’t understand 🙂
“Pro public school advocater” wins this round.
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No DFER 4 me!
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Couldn’t agree more with the article. Hillary is the most prepared person to be president. Bernie has not impressed me either on education although his on the education committee. Time for both these candidates to be schooled.
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Prepared for what? To accept more Eli Broad checks?
Oh, pleaseeeee.
No votes from this house.
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Thankfully we have a far better “listener” to choose from than Hillary. Those who think that Hillary Clinton is more responsive to grassroots efforts and activist leaders than Bernie Sanders are living in Bizarro World.
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Does anyone remember who listened to Black Lives Matter activists, and then made their issue a core part of the campaign? Hillary or Bernie?
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answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAd5gXpkXo0
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Hillary might be a good listener, but I worry about who she will listen to.
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Here’s a recent piece of mine on DailyKOS to counter Teacherken’s false tone of neutral, “objective” writing: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/04/10/1513152/-Seeing-thru-false-claims-implications-of-neutrality-nonbias-critical-thinking-and-clear-reasoning
Teacherken is certainly entitled to his opinion, but his approach strikes me as similar to those who use research to confirm their initial bias rather than to find the truth. This article is just a slightly more obvious example of that, I mean, just look at the title. Essentially Ken is saying that Hillary is poorly informed, but he will vote for her anyways based on hope that she will listen, and blah blah blah “experience!” therefore she’s just more qualified. Despite that Hillary’s history clearly shows her being a much worse “listener” and “activist” than Bernie Sanders.
Ken’s arguments initially appear well-reasoned and based on a wide perspective, but I would strongly disagree with that perception.
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It boggles my mind when people praise Hillary’s “experience”. Yes, she’s had a lot of it, but I sure am hard pressed to come up with much about it that’s positive. Serving on Walmart’s board, supporting DOMA, DADT, welfare “reform”, “three strikes”, the repeal of Glass Steagall, NAFTA, the Iraq war, Libya, Honduras, Haiti, not to mention her association with Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street firms, Eli Broad, Haim Saban, the private prison industry, Monsanto, and that’s just what I can think of off the top of my head. This is the kind of “experience” we want???
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Sorry, to continue: the Patriot Act, TPP, Keystone, emails on her private server, what we’re just learning from the Panama Papers and on and on and on….
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You’re missing the point, Dienne.
Experience good!
Bernie bad.
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You are absolutely correct. There is nothing in that resume of experience that bodes well for the country if she gets in. It would be a disaster on all fronts, not just education. For a quick look at what is in store under her see
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/04/13/president-killary-paul-craig-roberts/
You will have to paste it in the address bar, I guess.
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Hillary has a 30 year history of advocating neo-liberal ed deforms since Arkansas days. She is not ill-informed on education and you are fooling yourself if you think so and all she has to be is brought up to date. That is falling into the same trap as people did with Obama.
This comment from Ken almost defies belief: “I hope that when she becomes President, as I believe she will, Hillary Clinton will make sure that she includes the voices of teachers in (a) who she picks for Secretary of Education, (b) how her administration shapes it educational policy. I know from others how good a listener Hillary Clinton can be.”
The only “teacher” voice she listens to is Randi – who is a lawyer not a real teacher.
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Couldn’t have said it better. She knows exactly what she’s doing and her foreign policy “experience” is of the sort that I and many of my friends (both right and left leaning) would like to see banned from the White House.
More of the same from Hillary…which means it’ll just get worse. I respect Ken but am totally against him on this one.
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Hillary’s “experience” should raise red flags for anyone who supports public education in America. Her long-time, close relationship with Eli Broad; her $353,400 donation from the same Wal-Mart heiress who has pledged another $1 billion to charterize our schools, and what about Hillary’s $225.000 speech to the pro-charter Boston Consulting Group?
Sign and share the petition: HILLARY: RELEASE TRANSCRIPT OF YOUR $225,000 SPEECH TO CHARTER SCHOOL CONSULTANT GROUP
goo.gl/D5AZDG
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“Further, on almost all of the other issues important to me, Hillary Clinton’s experience, understanding of government and international issues, makes her far superior to anyone else who sought the Presidency this cycle.”
Is it possible that Ken Bernstein wouldn’t be so confident in Hillary’s expertise in governmental and international issues if he was as much of expert in those as in education?
Just try to listen to Hillary as if you were an outsider. Wouldn’t she sound informed, involved, experienced in education?
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The argument for Hillary’s “expertise” in “navigating Washington D.C.” goes like this: It’s good to appeal to corrupt world leaders and business executives. That’s how you GET THINGS DONE. It’s a shame Bernie hasn’t figured that out yet!
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Ravitch: It would not be hard to find out why, but her education advisors don’t seem to know or haven’t shared what they know.
Do you know who her education policy advisers are? Or Sander’s?
If you know, any thoughts about their (the policy advisers’) perspectives?
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Hillary’s education advisor is Ann O’Leary.
http://fortune.com/2015/06/02/meet-the-wonk-shaping-hillary-clintons-plans-for-the-country/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_M._O%27Leary
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This then explains it all: she is still an NCLB believer, hence Hillary has to be close to that view.
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From the article:
“As Clinton’s Senate aide in 2001, she [Ann O’Leary] was at the center of No Child Left Behind—a once popular education initiative that has since soured in the public mind. “It was a really important moment,” she says of the law, which Ted Kennedy crafted and George W. Bush signed. “When you look back at what happened, this was serious, bipartisan, constructive work. We were committed to high standards and helping states get there.”
“Implementation, she concedes, has been a rocky road—and she praises bipartisan reform proposals. On the newest flashpoint in education, Common Core, she notes that it was an initiative created by governors, not Washington,….”
Right, Washington had nothing to do with Common Core. Um hmmm.
BTW, anyone know if Ms. O’Leary’s children attend(ed) a school that uses Common Core? Or that’s subject to standardized tests? Teacher evaluations based on tests? Or is she another Sidwell type?
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Good catch!
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Incidentally, has anyone paid attention to Hillary’s campaign logo? A red arrow pointing right. Really, how much more obvious does she need to be?
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It’s strangely symbolic in multiple ways:

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Ed – yikes. Good catch.
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Hillary probably still has her Goldwater arrow button from 1964! Her views have evolved since then, but she has been very open that she was a Young Republican and self-admitted “Goldwater Girl” back then. Knowing that, I’ve found her current logo very interesting too.
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I sat in a session with Ken at the very first “Save Our School March” in 2011.
I also read many of his postings on Daily Kos prior to the ‘March’, and some of his pieces after 2011. He writes well. He has a great deal of experience as a teacher and his descriptions of his work in the classroom sound impressive.
I was, however, not impressed when I met him in person in DC. He was dismissive and impatient with other teachers’ opinions and experiences in the classroom. I have not read anything that he has written in several years.
After reading this, I am not inclined to reacquaint myself with what he has to offer to the conversation.
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I completely disagree with you Ken. Hillary knows EXACTLY what she’s doing in education – she was Eli Broad’s lawyer and in cahoots with the Waltons. Money talks, it’s the only language she knows. Tell the people what they want to hear then turn around and privatize – just like Obama.
I am sick to death of centrists that are no different than the republicans of Nixon’s era. I am a real progressive and I want the democratic party to go back to representing the people, not the oligarchs. The Clintons are guilty of the neoliberal control of the party – it was their doing.
I want real change. You and all others who are allegedly against the privatization of the ed reform movement, including charter schools, who will vote for Hillary and the neoliberal agenda I rack up to the Stockholm Syndrome. And when she betrays you, what then?
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Shillary is not prroly informed. She wants the same things that Obama wants, plain and simple.
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Cx:
poorly
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God save the opt outs!
Here they come!
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/education/survey-nearly-53-percent-of-li-students-opt-out-of-math-tests-1.11685059
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Sorry,
Opt-outs
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http://www.lohud.com/story/news/education/2016/04/13/common-core-math-test-day/82950810/
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Poorly informed, Ken? She has been on the wrong side and a designer of test-driven schooling for the masses at least since she was Bills education tsar. And she has been a charter and worse as well.
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One interesting point is that Ken claims to be ‘good friends with Tom Vilsack’. How many of you are good friends with a cabinet member? And, the Ag. Dept. has been in the grip of Big Ag (Monsanto, Con Agra, etc.) for 50 years or more. Dianne probably can support this. The guy is a corporatist, pure and simple.
But, although Ken may be a ‘history teacher’, why doesn’t he discuss Clinton’s many adventures in violent ‘regime change’ in defense of her ‘experience’. Just a few days ago, for example, some Hondurans protested her role in supporting the coup that led to the continuing terror in that country. But, no peep from the ‘history teacher’ about the nature of her ‘history’.
When a friend of Vilsack supports another cabinet member, I’m just not convinced that this is an endorsement from the heart. Sounds like a surrogate pandering, to me. Wake Up!
Teachers have worked against their own self-interest and that of their students for so many years. It’s the reason they don’t control professional certification (like doctors or lawyers), it’s the reason they have such a weak political voice. If you want a continuation of NCLB, go ahead and vote for those that support it, but don’t call yourself an ‘informed educator’, please. I raised sheep, and at least they were smart enough to know which leaders to follow.
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” I raised sheep, and at least they were smart enough to know which leaders to follow.”
Oh John, that was cruel! 🙂
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2016/04/12/teacher-what-third-graders-are-being-asked-to-do-on-2016-common-core-test/
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Expecting Hillary, a corporate tool, to reject her corporate sponsors’ opportunities for profit is like expecting Arne Duncan to reject charters, “choice,” and “accountability.”
Any objective analysis of HRC’s “accomplishments” show that she is a one dimensional, black-hearted, power player. If she is the Democrat nominee, I will cast my vote for the Republican no matter who it is.
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Listen to your heart or your mind or both?
There is a golden and practical advice that we want to eat, we need to go to a kitchen and cook.
In the same vein, educators and parents want the quality in public education for many American young generations, we need to roll our sleeves to show off our FIGHTING SPIRIT and we actively participate in OPT OUT MOVEMENT. There is no other way.
We cannot count on politicians to do our jobs because we must remember that “people who make us, they can break us”
The academy loves power. The rich lobbies and buys votes to give the academy (=puppet tools) the power. The GULLIBLE commoners and educators WILL SUFFER for their belief in smooth/charming promise from puppet tools. C’est la vie. C’est l’histoire. Yes, life continues on its cycle, and history keeps repeating its cycle.
It takes time, pressure and challenge to have a natural diamond. With this concept in mind, please vote our leader who has shown his/her conscientiousness through his/her best past actions for public goods and services and respect for humanity. Back2basic
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Why are the teachers unions not demanding a better policy statement from Hillary Clinton? This was supposed to be the whole point of an early endorsement.
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Well, the way it’s supposed to work is that you make your demands first and then, if your demands are met, you endorse. Why would Hillary do anything for the teachers unions now? She got what she wanted.
Of course, my bet was that the upfront demand had something to do with finding positions for Randi and Lily in her administration. And I bet those demands will be met.
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“The Weingarten”
The wine is very nice
In garden with some ice
And rubbing elbows too
Is what I like to do
“The Rosegarden” also works as title
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Spot on, Dienne. Randi rushed the endorsement and got nothing in return. Randi is a super delegate who has pledged to support Hillary and sits on the board for the pro-Hillary super PAC Priorities USA. Raises the very interesting question of who does Union leadership really represent?
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If you look at Weingarten’s actions over the years, in NYC and Washington, rather than her deceptive, misdirecting sound bites, you’ll clearly see that she’s in bed with so-called reform.
There are many good reason why the Broad Foundation referred to her in its 2009 annual report as one of its “assets.” As an “asset” of so-called reform, Weingarten has provided, and continues to provide, the edu-privateers with excellent return on their investment.
As for the teachers she ostensibly represents and receives a hefty salary from, well, never give a sucker an even break.
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“Union Confusion”
Sanders sides with unions
But leaders side with Hill
Which causes some confusions
Among the rank and file
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“causes disillusion” too.
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“The Days of Wine and Roses”
The Lillies, one supposes
With daffodils and roses
Are very very fine
In garden with some wine
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Voting for Hillary and donating money to Hillary are two different issues -for me, at least.
I have a fundraising letter from “Hillary Rodham Clinton” I’ve kept for weeks…..still unopened.
It says on the front, “John, this is our moment….are you with me?”
What the hell does THAT mean?
The envelope still makes me mad. I can think of SO MANY moments during the past four years when Hilary wasn’t with me or my family. When my own children were being hurt by half-assed education reforms meant to benefit only the people who want to rip down public schools. Moments -no, days, weeks and months- when my profession and the careers of colleagues I admire were being subjected to bizarre, insulting attacks. Not one moment did John B. King or Barack Obama or Andrew Cuomo take the time to listen to me either back then. And there’s Hillary, recently holding that reptilian Governor Cuomo’s scaly hand high in the air, smiling alongside him. “John, this is our moment…..are you with me?”
Well, Hillary, come election day in November, you know, that moment when I step up to vote, I certainly could NOT cast a ballot for Trump or Cruz or Kasich. I could never be with them.
But don’t assume I’m “with you” either. I’ll be damned if I send you a single cent. I will not fund attacks on my own children and the students I care about.
Not until Hillary starts to prove that she’s really with US.
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“It says on the front, “John, this is our moment….are you with me?””
As you said, the envelope should have said “John, this is our moment, and I am with you, I want to help.”
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“John, this is our moment…You are either with me…or with the tourists. You know, like the guy who’s visiting DC from way up in the boonies of Vermont.”
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I had a visceral reaction to your post, like that feeling you get when you wack yourself with a door and want to kick it but know there will be nothing but pain instead of satisfaction.
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SDP, I think you might mean “the guy who’s visiting DC from District 13?
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If Hillary is “with us” she should be talking with Diane Ravitch…right now….and not just for a half hour! There are definite signals that Hillary could send out that she wants to listen to us…that she wants to show us some real respect -and for me that would be a MAJOR one.
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A person that is si knowledgeable in education politics, but is not about anything else, is a one dimensional lost soul. IfClinton is the enemy to education it follows that she might be the same in foreign policy, which she is, and a right winger democrat. A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote against education, and every thing else worthwhile to the majority of teachers and working people.
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 22:03:51 +0000 To: gustavo_183@msn.com
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Sure, Hillary is a really good listener.
Just look at how closely she listened to Peter Edelman, high-level official in the Clinton administration and husband of Marian Wright Edelman of the Children’s Defense Fund, to which Hillary affixed herself, lamprey-like, many years ago in order to pose as an political progressive.
Edelman begged Bill Clinton to veto the so-called welfare reform bill in 1996 – which has, as he predicted at the time, led to an explosion in child poverty – yet the Big Dog happily signed that law, another example of his and his wife’s predictable throwing their political base under the bus in their political interests and those of their corporate funders and patrons.
The eagerness for pwogwessives to delude themselves and be used by the Clintons and Obamas of the world apparently cannot be tempered by reality. They resemble Trump supporters in that regard, in that facts just don’t seem to matter.
No matter how many times they get pissed on by Democrats, they continue to think it’s raining.
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I still have my t-shirt from “Listening Tour ’99.”
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At least you got a t-shirt, Flerp. All I got was the war in Iraq.
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What about Libya and Honduras?
They must be worth something.
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If you vote of rHillary then you will be greatly disappointed. The people who support her and have paid zillions into her campaign are the ones who want to see public education disappear. Take a look..https://greatschoolwars.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/eic-oct_11.pdf
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Hillary will keep John King at dept. of ed.
It’s one big happy club.
No thanks.
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I think it was Thomas Frank who had a very wise and accurate thing to say about Hillary and the election.
To paraphrase, he said, “Tell me that we must elect Hillary President because Supreme Court and administrative (NLRB, EPA, OSHA, etc.) nominations must be kept out of the hands of Republicans, and I will listen to you with respect. Tell me that we must elect her because she’s female, or because she’s a ‘transformational candidate,’ and I will call you a naïf or a shill.”
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The fact that Hillary Clinton shamelessly defends her actions supporting the coup of a democratically-elected president in Honduras, despite the chaos and murders that continue to this day, is enough to cause me to cast my vote for Mr. Sanders. To me, this is not the experience, nor example, I want in the White House.
The fact that she shows little understanding of public education, and is so closely tied to those who would see it destroyed, should make anyone seriously consider whether or not they should vote for her.
Sorry, Ken. I follow you, but I heartily disagree on this point. I also don’t buy in to the reasoning that Hillary is the only Democrat who can win.
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AMEN!!!!!
I will not vote for her but WILL vote against any Republican who is now on their list of prospective presidential nominees. That means that I will hold my nose and vote for her, the lesser of evils.
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Reblogged this on rjknudsen and commented:
The alternatives?
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