In this post, EduShyster interviews Teach for America alumna-turned-academic Terrenda White. She joined TFA in the early 2000s. CNN followed her around during her first year of teaching, presumably to show how successful this new thing called TFA was. Now she studies TFA’s diversity problem. While TFA claims to have increased the diversity of those within its ranks, it also causes a decrease in the number of teachers of color by displacing them.
White says:
While TFA may be improving their diversity numbers, that improvement has coincided with a drastic decline in the number of teachers of color, and Black teachers in particular, in the very cities where TFA has expanded. I don’t see them making a connection between their own diversity goals and the hits that teachers of color have taken as a result of policies to which TFA is connected: school closures where teachers of color disproportionately work, charter school expansion, teacher layoffs as schools are turned around. We have to talk about whether and how those policies have benefited TFA to expand in a way that they’re not ready to publicly acknowledge….
What happened in New Orleans, for example, is a microcosm of this larger issue where you have a blunt policy that we know resulted in the displacement of teachers of color, followed by TFA’s expansion in that region. I’ve never heard TFA talk about or address that issue. Or take Chicago, where the number of Black teachers has been cut in half as schools have been closed or turned around. In the lawsuits that teachers filed against the Chicago Board of Education, they used a lot of social science research and tracked that if a school was low performing and was located on the north or the west side and had a higher percentage of white teachers, that school was less likely to be closed. As the teachers pointed out, this wasn’t just about closing low-performing schools, but closing low-performing schools in communities of color, and particularly those schools that had a higher percentage of teachers of color. What bothers me is that we have a national rhetoric about wanting diversity when at the same time we’re actually manufacturing the lack of diversity in the way in which we craft our policies. And we mete them out in a racially discriminatory way. So in many ways we’re creating the problem we say we want to fix….
For TFA, the managerialism and the technocratic approach excludes a serious discussion about these larger, systemic problems: poverty, segregation and unequal funding. When I was a TFA corps member, I really believed that if I just had perfect lesson plans, then these larger problems wouldn’t matter. The technocratic approach is just about test scores and making them go up, and it’s disconnected from these larger questions. How do we involve parents, and do they have any say in what a good school is? Are they a part of these turnaround models? Do they get any kind of voice? I think the whole community-based model of schooling is very much being lost to a top-down managerial approach.
This is another fascinating interview from EduShyster that introduces us to a young scholar who will have a large impact on the future of teaching and on how TFA is perceived by the public.

several people have posted the washington post version of this interview on facebook only to have it automatically taken down by facebook for offensive content, without warning or explanation to the original posters. Is this the work of the resources TFA invests in controlling the social media narrative around their organization, i dont know? Either way I am at a loss for what might be troubling or offensive about this article. It seemed like a fairly open honest conversation around the research of a former TFA alum.
here is the link to the washington post version that somehow offends facebook:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2016/03/22/teach-for-americas-diversity-paradox/
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EduStudent, the article will not be deleted here
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Think I’ll have to try posting that. Will let all know the results.
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So far not deleted from my fb.
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Diversity to TFA means more candidates from outside Princeton and Haavid (but still from the “lesser Ivy’s”, of course)
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From a teacher working out here in the bumbling, less-than-capable “West,” I would also add that for TFA diversity typically does not mean finding teachers anywhere but inside those Much Better Schools Out East.
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“Much Better Schools Out East’
Isn’t the “much better” part redundant?
or is it the ‘out east” part?
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Well, a body can get herself into an awful lot of trouble for saying these sorts of things (especially a white body), but here goes: there are different kinds of diversity. The kind of diversity that used to exist was actual black and Latino teachers who were from the neighborhoods or similar neighborhoods in which they taught. They understood the culture, they spoke the language, they could do the code switching, they could legitimately walk in both the “white” and the “black” (or “Latino”) worlds.
But the kind of “diversity” favored by TfA and other rephormers is basically white people with different skin color. Asians, mixed race people, immigrants who have been in the country enough generations to be fully integrated and assimilated, etc. These are mostly people who have lived mostly in the “white” world and are rather ignorant of other cultures even though they may technically have a foot in such cultures. They’re a bit like the “diversity” characters in a lot of children’s books who are really just shaded in white kids. Because they are basically as at home in the white world as white people, they assume, consciously or unconsciously, that the white world is better and that their job is to prepare these young kids of color to function in the white world – i.e., to “act white” without much regard for their culture of origin.
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Actually, Dienne, this is quite nicely put; I’m a very white guy working in a diverse inner-city school, and I think you have hit the nail on the head. More importantly, I think the Black and Latino kids I teach would agree with your characterizations….
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to “act white” without much regard for their culture of origin.”
Our government has been trying (and failing, miserably) to get Native Americans to do that for over 2 centuries.
Of course, it never occurred to any of the white people behind the assimilation policies that maybe native Americans would rather be “uneducated” and “poor” than “white” — because that simply makes no (white) sense.
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I should say that at first they simply tried to eliminate the “problem” (ie, the Native Americans) altogether.
It was only later (at end of the 1800’s) that they tried assimilation.
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I was a white teacher that taught minority children for my whole career of over thirty years, and I think you got it right, Dienne. Skin color is not culture. I am reminded of a Cuban friend, the daughter of a brain surgeon. She taught ESL in a tough, urban high school. Her students were most poor Puerto Ricans. While she spoke fluent Spanish, she could not relate to the poor students whom she found had a “welfare mentality.” While language is an element of culture, there is a lot more that has to be considered.
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Yes, Dienne, which is precisely why Barack Obama addressed TFA’s 25th anniversary shindig via video. Had he been there in person, he no doubt would have felt right at home.
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Retired teacher, your comments about your Cuban friend make me wonder how much we need to consider socioeconomic background regardless of skin color. A well educated white teacher from a high socioeconomic background would be as disconnected from her/his pupils in a poor white community as your Cuban friend was in that tough, urban school. This discussion points out how important well resourced, community schools are in educating children. Obviously, we want children to develop the ability to code switch and know how to navigate more than their immediate community. Indeed, if we are going to “produce” global citizens able to navigate a multitude of cultures, code switching becomes a valuable skill at whatever place you find yourself on the socioeconomic ladder.
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“White Houses”
To live in white houses
The white man espouses
As worthiest goal of them all
Leave culture behind
Reject your own kind
Admire your portrait on wall
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I think we often bypass the point that Obama was raised by a White mother and White grandparents. What is his true “culture?” Outside of skin color, aren’t we often blind to what his upbringing might have brought to him and to his choice of actions?
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Dienne – The Japanese in Japan and the Chinese in China, even though uncontaminated by association with white people, are totally different from American blacks or Hispanics.
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What does this even mean? Are you the racist Jim that used to post around here?
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Jim, your comment is what’s known as a non sequitur.
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If you think these comments make you feel uneasy, you should read about how the no excuses charters like Kipp are promoting “Brainology.” The assumption is they can deprogram children from a “poverty mindset.” It sounds like a twist on eugenics to me, but it is strange and disturbing.http://www.schoolsmatter.info/2016/03/poverty-solutions-psychological.html
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retired – thanks for that link. I’ve long thought Martin Seligman is one of the most evil people to walk the planet. All teachers, mental health professionals and other helping professionals need to be aware of the insidious effects of his work. I’m starting to think that Carol Dweck is not too far down the list from Seligman. I think she’s getting drunk on her own work.
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Yes the policies of the deformed/reformer movement have resulted in increased segregation and disparate treatment of teachers of color. In many cases, your veteran, top of the salary scale teachers are black and teach in the inner cities. With the destruction of public schools and the charterization of education, TFA temporary, no qualified labor has blossomed with no regards to diversity of students or teaching staff.
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Regardless of the background of being civilized or savage, all sentient beings have fear, hope and joy. In other word, they have conscience (=literally with knowledge, and desire)
From the lowest level to the very finest level of conscience, people and animals enjoy peaceful environment (= no stress, no fear and no intimidation); are proud of their own body strength, admire others’ physical beauty (= simple physical fitness/activities like track and field); love to cultivate knowledge in Liberal Arts, and STEM: most of all, people need relaxation from musics, plays, arts, and field trips.
Young generations from K-12, they will need to be cultivated in all three aspects of body, mind and spirit. All parents and teachers should co-operate in supporting children to be nurtured, and cultivated in a true learning environment = curriculum that covers:
– track and field for body strengthening;
– languages, literature, arts for caring and sharing other culture;
– STEM for understanding and respecting nature/universal laws:
– musics, play to appreciate history of evolution in human and nature.
People need to thoroughly and mutually understand their responsibilities towards their goal of building a harmonious, peaceful, and safe community wherever they live in. To achieve this goal, we need to unite in OPT OUT MOVEMENT = CIVIC DUTY to preserve PUBLIC EDUCATION. Back2basic
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Teach for America … little more than camp counselors without the pine trees on their shirts.
Imagine for a moment the instant promotion of butchers to surgeons … or deck builders to bridge engineers. Imagine Cub Scout troop leaders as military generals … or menu makers as the next classic authors.
There’s something so odd about teaching … and it’s seldom mentioned. Everyone thinks they can teach. Everyone.
Just because you taught your child to knot his sneakers in record time doesn’t make you the next Mr. Chips. Everyone is so seduced by Hollywood and tv-land that they actually think they could sail right into a classroom and every kid would sing the theme song “To Sir, with Love”. And the world would cry because of their greatness.
Like any job, teaching is layered with misconceptions. Everyone fantasizes about professional baseball players … swatting home runs and earning millions for making the highlight reels. No one mentions the family separation, the travel fatigue, roadie food, a different bed every few days, autograph hounds, packing and unpacking, missing family stuff, separation from wives and children … and then the usual redundancy of any job. All we see is the glamour.
That’s true for teaching, too. Everyone seems to see that “To Sir, With Love” guy winning over the thuggery class and becoming a revered legend overnight. Or that Mr. Chips who seems to sweat wisdom … because he’s so over-supplied with it. If that were the case, I would have hung in the position until I was a hundred. But it’s not.
Teaching is lots of stuff few imagine … and lots of hours even fewer acknowledge. It’s not a job you get very good at very quickly either … even with the best preparation. It’s not all knowledge either … it’s technique and personality and polishing a persona and perfecting a delivery … as well as knowing your subject inside out … and keeping current in the ever changing field.
It’s about intuition. And listening to that intuition. It’s about love … all sorts of love.
There’s easy love …for those kids that just joy you day-in-and-day-out. They’re great students, great kids … with great personalities and great everything.
Then there’s that hard love … for the kid with the green snot and the girl with the matted hair … and unpleasant aroma. Or for the boy who’s an accomplished bully at age 13 … and thinks this is his lot in life. Then there’s the broken child … who seems already to have quit life. And the loud, annoying sort … who’s probably masking a world of hurt. What about the invisibles? … the kids who practice invisibility because their daily ambition is to go unrecognized and un-included … for whatever dark reason. Prying them out of their darkness can take months … if it ever really happens.
There’s lots more to describe, but it’s unnecessary. What is necessary is to imagine engaging all of these kids in the right way day after day … and then seeing to it that they make educational progress as well. Making sure they’re prepared for the next level … the next challenges. Oh … and you lug all of this stuff around in your head and your heart … all the time.
And then, just to make this all even more interesting, weave in the mundane that actually captures most of your time … never-ending grading that snatches away your Sundays, faculty and department meetings, parent confabs, planning, gathering things you need and resources you want. Colleague exchanges and innovative thinking. Blend in some school politics and the usual work-place agita … and maybe some deep intrigue at times. Oh, and don’t forget your family … those folks you bump into when you’re half dressed. They want a piece of you, too.
II’m certain that five week preparation period offered by the Teach for America leadership is gonna arm those greenhorn teachers to the max.
But here’s the REALLY UGLY underbelly of Teach for America … and the ill-prepared idealists they let loose on lots of youngsters: the schools that take them on are almost always the poorest of the poor … and the children most in need of real teachers … with real preparation … ready to change lives and manage all that such an effort entails.
Teach for America is a feel-good disaster. It does nothing for the students or the profession except perpetuate the myth that anyone can teach.
Denis Ian
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“Or that Mr. Chips who seems to sweat wisdom … ” I love that line, especially when it is contrasted with the day to day nitty gritty of teaching that you describe. You said what I would say in much less eloquent terms. Just WOW!
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