Blogger Sam Chaltain says that there used to be a monumental struggle between two extremes: on one side were the “New-Schoolers,” led by Michelle Rhee, who were champions of choice, TFA, charters, and so forth. On the other were the “Old-Schoolers,” led by me, representing “tenured elders, district loyalists, progressive die-hards, etc.”
Now, writes Sam, the battle is over, old hat, finished, and done, because he is part of a group that has envisioned a new paradigm for American education that is “that clearly places students at the center by making learning more personalized, relevant, and real-world-situated.”
To wit, check out the website of the Convergence Policy Center’s Education Reimagined project (full disclosure: I’m a contributor). For two years, Convergence has been gathering almost thirty of us – practitioners and policymakers, “Deformers” and “Status-Quo’ers,” Progressives and Conservatives, union leaders and union critics – to spend time together, for the purpose of seeing if they could ever get all of us to agree on anything.
And they did! They found a great Convergence!
The wars are over! Forget the Vergara trial to take away teachers’ due process rights. Forget Eli Broad’s move to take over half the students in the Los Angeles Unified School District and his plans to charterize the District of Columbia. Forget Scott Walker’s efforts to eliminate public education in Milwaukee, and eventually in other parts of Wisconsin. Forget the hedge funders who pour millions of dollars into state and local school board races and who buy politicians with strategic donations. Stop worrying so much about poverty and segregation.
All of those concerns are Old School.
Is Sam right? Are the wars over? Should we stop resisting and get out of the way of the Great Convergence?
If the battle is over, I am ready to quit; is Eli Broad? is Bill Gates? is Scott Walker? is John Kasich? is Rick Scott? is Bobby Jindal? will the hedge fund guys put away their checkbooks? If I stop, and they don’t, what will happen to the teaching profession? What will happen to public education?
What do you think? I am listening and reading.
Diane Ravitch's blog 
I don’t think everyone has received the memo.
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Mission Accomplished, eh?
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Snake oil isn’t what it used to be.
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Also, I think that “new school” vs. “old school” terminology doesn’t quite get at what I think is the key difference. I think “new school” tends to be more top-down reform. I think “old school” is more bottom up reform. The term, “top down” tends to offend parents at the ground level, so I’m not surprised that it isn’t embraced by “new schoolers.”
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They want it “to be over” because the pushback is growing. the wars were only fun when they were winning. now they are the status quo and they have nothing to show for their efforts but chaos
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Precisely, and thus the so-called reformers whine about how mean everyone is to them, and lecture the rest of us chumps about the need for civil behavior.
In their eyes, they deserve love and plaudits, not contempt, for destabilizing and looting a public good, scapegoating teachers and diminishing the profession, busting unions, hyper-segregating school systems already suffering from segregation, and lying about each and every single thing.
Yet these vicious posers cast themselves as the victims…
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This is it in a nutshell. They WANT it to be over and may even DECREE that it is over. But they are now confronted with a MESS of their own making.
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Yes. The same verbiage was used by an Ohio Alliance for Charter Schools spokesperson and N.Y. charter spokespersons.
They proclaim charter schools have been institutionalized into the education system and are not vulnerable to elimination. They doth protest too much.
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In all sincerity, I urge viewers of this blog to click on the link in the posting.
I must admit, I was variously moved to laugh, to cry, and to shake my head in disbelief.
With all due respect to Mr. Chaltain, this reads as nothing more than one of a number of attempts to rebrand rheephorm policies, putting the failed polices of the past into brand new shiny bottles with snazzy looking labels.
This takes its place with Arne Duncan’s April 30, 2013 speech to the AERA convention.
Link: http://www.ed.gov/news/speeches/choosing-right-battles-remarks-and-conversation
What place is that? On display with Duncan’s speech. Duncan gets the “Word Salad & Cognitive Dissonance” Award of 2013. Chaltain for the “Word Salad & Straw Man/Rewriting History” Award of 2015.
But I must admire their love of, and appreciation for, Homer:
“I didn’t lie, I was writing fiction with my mouth.”
¿😳?
That’s, er, Homer SIMPSON.
If Mr Chaltain would pardon the presumption, he might do well to pay heed to what the original Homer said:
“Words empty as the wind are best left unsaid.”
Very old and very dead and very Greek guys. What would we do without them?
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P.S. carolcorbettburris: yes!
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I agree on “re-branding”.
I don’t think they’ll have any more success with the new brand than they did with the old unless they find and hire some people who understand that the public has a role in “public schools”.
They may not like it, but it is in fact true. They cannot impose this “movement” on tens of thousands of publicly-owned and run schools without dealing with the public.
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Wishful thinking ! The golden goose is still young, and, besides, this guy seems to have no concern over who runs the show.
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Sam Charlatan ????
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Funny,
That’s how I read the name too — and think I’ll stick with the first impression.
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There was an oped in The Detroit Free Press today trying the same rhetorical move (the fight is done! stop arguing!).
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Great! They could show some good faith then and restore the public school funding we’ve lost under “movement” leadership.
No one is more tired than me of having the people I’m paying in government attack public schools. 17 years they’ve been running things in this state and I have yet to see a single benefit “trickle down” to an existing public school. Are we finally at the “support public schools” part? Can I get that in writing and also a down payment?
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Stated with insight.
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“And I think it means that the era of high-stakes standardized testing, already in decline, will soon enter its final death spiral.”
What, did John King just say that he didn’t want tests at every grade for the reauth. of ESEA?
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I read the vision document. As usual, people who write these things do not actually work in a real world.
Engaging stakeholders such as parent to further their students learning – wow why did we never think before to work with parents….wait a minute….many parents of student who need the most help are already working 2 jobs trying to pay the bills.
Personalized instruction…we know where that leads…straight to the screen and keyboard. If, as the doc says, we know a lot about how people learn, then we know that people learn through interactions with humans. And we know that ideas need to be challenged. This cannot be done if you are learning on your own at your own individualized plan.
and if learners are seen as “wonderous and curious individuals” then why do we still need the assessments of standards and benchmarks?
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“A belief that teachers must start to act more like coaches and facilitators than mere content experts – and that the relationships between adults and young people must remain as the bedrock of learning itself.”
Anything else, like round things used on vehicles are better than skids?
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“Mere content experts.”
Knowledge is just a commodity, but salesmanship takes real skill.
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The ed reform logo could be a kid sitting in front of a screen. That image is everywhere is everything they promote.
I’ve started monitoring it with my son. I want to know how hard they’re pushing this into low and middle income public schools, because a lot of what I’ve seen in Ohio has been geared toward cost-cutting when you get past all the marketing language.
I don’t care what the intent was- what matters is whether “personalized learning” translates into “cheap replacement for teachers and human interaction” in (certain) public schools.
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Chaltain seems to have all the buzzwords down pat. Unfortunately, the terminology raises all sorts of alarms. Interesting that he identifies himself as an “Old Schooler.”
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So what does Mr. Chaltain think about standardized tests? Basing teacher evaluations on said standardized tests? The Common Core? Charter schools? “Achievement” Districts? Enquiring mind want to know.
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The charlatan (“Writer & Communications Strategist”) is apparently on the same page as Randi and Lily: http://education-reimagined.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/A-Transformational-Vision-for-Education-in-the-US-2015.09.pdf
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What the ? Education centers? Just drop in? NO adult supervision. Just teach myself? Oh goody…cause if I were a kid and found out that this is what they had in store for me; I’d would be working out and practice climbing walls, so I can make a ‘home visit’ or ‘house-call’ and discuss their ideas with them face-to-face. Sheesh!
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They wouldn’t need “mere content experts” (nor specialists in child development, special ed, ELLs, etc.) to play the role of the occasional “facilitator” at drop in “education centers” either.
Why don’t Randi and Lily recognize that a plan like this is about deprofessionalizing teaching and destroying public education? Repealing compulsory education laws would be just around the corner. Or do they see and just not give a damn?
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They don’t give a damn. They’ve got theirs.
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I don’t think the war will be over unless we amend or eliminate laws that allow charters to grow at great expense to public schools. Hedge fund managers will be relentless in pursuing profit and buying complicity from elected officials to help pave the way for them.
For teachers the war is far from over. Unless teachers have due process rights without VAM as a tool to undermine their rights, teachers remain in the thick of the war. Without some measure of job security and something to incentivize young people to enter this career, the profession will suffer, and there will be widespread shortages of teachers. Of course, this is a goal of those that wage the war against teachers and public education.
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It’s not over. We can’t give up. I already got put in jail (I was transferred to teaching in a juvenile detention facility after showing the school board the differences in the NRP report of the subgroups & summary booklet) and actually love it here (no standardized tests – did have a student about 4 years ago who should have taken one, but he was deemed too dangerous to have a pencil) so I just decided I’d teach for another 2 years instead of retiring at the end of this year so I can keep fighting from within. I’d love to get a fire lit under the people in Central WA state before I leave – will keep at it.
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Thank you, Jane, for standing your ground and making a difference. They thought to break you, but you only became stronger. Respect from Seattle.
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Stay on your steed, Dr. Ravitch. Keep your powder dry and your sword by your side. I don’t think the battles are over, and we need you at the front of the line.
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I think Chaltain is speaking the sort of happy talk we sometimes get out of politicians. Let’s “come together,” “common solutions,” hope, change, blah blah blah. Reminds me of Obama, who I’m sorry to say has been a disappointment, and is responsible for making BS like charters and testing more mainstream. The school wars represent incompatible ideologies: a democratic vision of education and a corporate vision.
Marx said, “The ideology of the ruling class is in every epoch the ruling ideology.” A corporate way of thought permeates our society, and corporate education reform is just one way that ideology exerts itself. Happy talk like Chaltain’s is just a way for people to deny to themselves what is really going on, and tell themselves these corporate reformers have listened to us or don’t really want to take over education.
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Where has Chaltain been hiding for the last 50 years? Under a rock on Mars? — Edd Doerr (arlinc.org)
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No no no! Please don’t stop! After I greet my ferociously loved children at the end of their increasingly rigid, robotic, play-free, test-prep, test-prep, test-prep, no-textbooks-because-the-cirriculum-is-ever-changing-and-the-district-can’t-financially-keep-up-with-new-books, demand-they-show-what-they-know-in-place-of-teaching-them, walls-covered-up-on-test-days-and-their-own-teacher-banned-from-the-room-so-she-doesn’t-help-them-cheat, teachers-crying-in-the-corners-of-the-room-because-they-can’t-treat-these-children-the-way-they-know-is-right-and-better-and-actually-conductive-to-educating-them. school days,
after I soothe my 9 year old’s shaking fingers from his anxiously gnawing teeth, after I purr a mothers love into my hard working, naturally “gritty”-before-it was-a-thing, straight A student’s 11 year old tear streaked, I-failed-a-math-assignment-because-I-googled-the-wrong-instructions face, after I watch a few vines to reconnect with my about-to-give-up 9th grader whom I can’t really help with math even though I’m still pretty darn good at algebra (and beyond!) because “my way” sends him into a panic because it isn’t the “new way”, after all this, after licking and grooming my children like the lab rat mother I’ve become in the wake of all this disruption and chaos called “reform”, and after crying a bucket of nightly tears myself over the fact that I, a grown, professional, educated woman, cannot navigate these chaotic waters much less teach my children how to navigate them, after all that….
I read your blog.
And I thank God that you are fighting for sanity,
Parents need you. Teachers need you. Most of all, our students need you. (Oh. and, contrary to popular belief in some circles, we parents who actively are involved in our children’s educations are not involved because we are white suburban mothers with an inflated sense of our children’s academic capabilities. Quite the opposite. Most of the parents I know not only are colors other than white, and live in areas other than suburbia, they/we are actually very realistic about the abilities of each of our children. That we fight for them to reach the highest academic level of which they are capable ought to be a welcome concept. For who can better set kids up to work hard and achieve than their own parents? )
Also, also….Ditto for teachers. To say that teachers fighting for fair treatment in the work place is somehow not also in the best interest of students is, well, not a great example of good critical thinking.
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Beautiful Wise Strong Words!
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Couldn’t have said it better. I read this blog every day to save my sanity and lift my depression after reviewing the total garbage that comes home in the form of engageNY and all the other Common Core junk assignments. Dr. Ravitch, parents need you and Carol Burris and all the other fighters to keep standing up for the truth and what is right. Our children’s brains are at stake.
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Are unions dead? No, but definitely in peril.
Have schools been fully monetized? No, but more than ever.
The war is not over. The privatizers won’t stop until they’ve achieved the above goals.
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I think Sam is totally wrong. We are still in the cold war. The hot war hasn’t started yet, and if the corporate reformers keep up their cherry picked lies and fraud, they will eventually have destroyed millions of lives and that’s when I think it will become a hot war, but teachers are smart so don’t expect them to riot and burn their communities down like has happened in the past with people who live in poverty.
For instance, in New York, we have a husband who is a lawyer married to a teacher and he has taken the state to court to prove that Cuomo’s methods to evaluate teachers is wrong.
Imagine what a husband or boy friend, who was or is a U.S. combat Marine and/or served or still serves in Special Forces will do. With more than 3 million public school teachers under attack and 84% of them women, the odds favor that some of those female teachers are married to and/or in love with some of these current or former combat vets, and men as a group tend to want to help solve problems for the women and children they love.
Lawyers go to court to solve those problems.
Special Forces and Marines don’t solve problems in court. Use your imagination.
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He says “in the end we agreed…..”
Who is “we”?
No one asked me or anyone else I know.
No one asked a few handfuls of the opt out-ers.
Until “we” moves beyond the acronyms,
“We” is “you”
And… Until someone actually frames the “players” sans condecension and vocabularically (yes- I made up that word but it works) imbued descriptors …
The debate isn’t even set upon solid equal ground.
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It’s the royal we.
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I think Sam “misspoke”. Not feeling it.
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The war is over
WHEN we give up.
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When we give up …
NEVER
We should study the Vietnamese. China occupied Vietnam for 1,000 years, and the Vietnamese never gave up. Their rebellion against Chinese occupation eventually trumped and that was centuries ago after struggling for one thousand years.
You think the French and then the United States would have known better.
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My promise: as long as billionaires and hedge fund managers are bullying teachers and trying to privatize our public schools, I WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER GIVE UP!
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Be sure to read the link to their Vision, which people like Randi and Lily signed off on, as well as folks from Microsoft, KIPP, et al., where the indicators are that there will be no more schools, because those are the Industrial model, just “education centers” where people can meet (attendance optional), nor are there cohorts by grade, nor drill and kill cramming of empty vessels, etc: http://education-reimagined.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/A-Transformational-Vision-for-Education-in-the-US-2015.09.pdf
Much of what they say is recycled from progressive education with a tech spin (we already know their vision of personalized learning is about lots of screen time). The emphasis on self-directed learning is disconcerting because, having been personally and professionally involved in innovative self-directed learning programs, as both a student and a teacher, I know very well that very few students are ready for and easily benefit from that.
Do boot camp charters plan to do a kind of Montessori on the fly? I don’t see anything like that ever happening when privatizers are so committed to Behaviorist principles and regimented, lockstep learning in prized real estate.
I agree this is about rebranding, but the plan also sounds like a very short step away from repealing compulsory education altogether, IMHO.
Keep fighting for public education and retaining our schools, Diane!
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War over? Is there no more public money to be appropriated to the private sector? Is there no more power to be aggrandized? Are there no more egos to be inflated? The education wars dwarf the 100 Years War – they merely slide into new cycles and some new actors appear. I say the wars are over only when people that have radically divergent agendas and beliefs and who detest each other stop concurrently claiming the right, usually, the sole right, to be those who have children’s best interests at heart. Hmm, maybe the war ceases when there are no more children to educate?
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“Yosemite Sam”
Yosemite Sam
Says “War is over”
“Bugs, come claim
Your fields of clover!”
‘Bugs, we voted
Worry none
They ain’t loaded
Neither gun”
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I think it’s important to realize that the case for academic freedom, teacher tenure, teacher autonomy, teacher unions has to be made on a regular basis—even at times of “peace”. Presently, this “making the case” is nothing less than a war probably because people took these institutions and principles granted for quite some time.
It may be interesting to ask K-12 teachers to make a strong, compelling case for tenure and academic freedom. My university colleagues have very little to say about these principles—almost none of them knew why colleges fought for them during the entire first half of the 20th century.
So even when the present war cools down, what we should learn from the last decade is that small battles need to be fought on a regular basis in order to defend our territory. We should never take small attacks lightly.
So sorry Diane, this blog cannot retire. 5 years from now, there may be the need to only one warning post a week, but full retirement is not advisable.
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“Con Vergence”
A vergence of cons
Is what we’ve achieved
Convergence of wrongs
Should now be believed
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I suspect that there is a “compromise” in the works if not right now (for the coming campaign) then in the next decade.
The compromise is likely to be some version of public funding with the provision that “money follows the student” whether the funds are federal, state, or local. This could be the “compromise” choice option offered up with a stretched meaning of public school (as in charters and networks of these run by money-mongering non-profits with high paid CEOs marketing themselves as if public schools) and/or a version of Nevada’s plan where all public school students can attend any school, public or private.
The expanded meaning of public will certainly include online learning programs with open enrollments, relaxed regulation, and customer rating schemes for learning experiences in lieu of accrediting bodies along with badges, certificates, and awards for demonstrated competency—earned in any venue, not necessarily a bricks and mortar school.
Of course, the success of this path means that anyone who is devoted to a bricks and mortar school as a social and communal and civic space will have to think about the value of that real estate. They will also have to think about the value of that location as venue for education and child-care facility, especially for parents who work, and who don’t work at home. There are many more ramifications of course, but here is pitch for this direction, from a long-time Washington insider.
Russ Whitehurst at the Brookings Institution believes that the 2016 candidates are missing an opportunity to weigh in on “one of the most powerful levers of K-12 education reform: open enrollment in regular public schools tied to portable funding.” More: http://brook.gs/1VCnlXO.
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“open enrollment in regular public schools tied to portable funding” means vouchers with the false promise that all schools will accept any child. We know very well that supporters of ed “reform” have no qualms about the fact that their policies have resegregated education across the US. Vouchers will not increase the likelihood that low income children of color will get accepted in well funded schools in higher income and predominantly white areas, especially where schools continue to be funded primarily by property taxes. What we need is equitable funding and more magnet schools to promote integration.
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The battle has gotten nastier. $$$$$ and power are involved. We now are getting King to replace Duncan. As far as I am concerned, Obama gave public school teachers the EAGLE.
We cannot remain silent. That’s what the DEFORMERS want: Public School Teachers in solitary confinement unless the teachers follow the script and give ridiculous tests to prove teachers are bad. Teachers aren’t bad; teachers are great! We seem to be the servers giving our students as meals for the deformers. This is SIC!
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No, Diane, the war is not over. It has barely begun.
Keep on fighting!
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DIANE –
DON’T STOP.
JERRY BECKER
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The war is only over in so far as the spoiled rich brat brings the basketball and then when in challenging the poor ghetto boy or rural hillbilly and gets stomped and beaten to a pulp (figuratively) the brat declares the game over, he won and is now taking his ball home as he has more important things to do with his time.
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Great Covergence? you men like “peace in our time” and empty calories?………”I have a feeling we’re not in Kansas any more” as well as “just beacuse you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re NOT trying to get you”………….Great Convergence?, “ah, yes, the feeling’s para mutual, I’m insured” ………………says the “Old School” one whose head is filled with the cultural legacies of those who have gone before…………
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Great convergence like “Mission Accomplished!” Best to say it on a battleship while in uniform.
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Tou-che, Diane! We ARE breathing the same air!!
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Diane,
I will put this briefly and simply:
1) The war is far from over and fighting fire with fire is the only language the overclass understands.
2) Militancy, research in human development, best practices in pedagogy, and parents are our best weapons. Forget about the unions; they are bought and sold. Reinventing our unions by ousting the current leaders and enfranchising parents is key to becoming the unions we so critically need.
3) We only lose this war – and it is a CLASS WAR – when we say we have, when we believe we have, and when we consciously decide to give in and give up. Until then, no one has won.
4) We will continue to lose thoushands of battles against the overclass, but baby, we will ultimately win the war because of one reason: we have the TRUTH on our side, and one can’t make up the truth with even the mos expensive of propaganda campaigns. Hitler tried that, and Germany is still paying for such sins. . . . and should. So is the Axis, for that matter.
No, we have not won, but we have not lost. We wil keep on fighting and will never relent.
Never.
Parents are raging because they don’t want the state to non-democratically tell them what is best for thier children as long as their parenting is not abusive. Parents are those mother bears who will kill anything near their cubs . . . . Reformers beware.
Don’t anyone here give up EVER. As my late brother once told me, “Bro, it’s better to be pissed off than pissed on!”
Words of wisdom . . . . .
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You are ever so correct. Thanks.
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Thank you. We are in this together.
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The privatization movement has been trying to persuade us to stop fighting for several years. They say, “The train has left the station.” From this point forward, the future belongs to privatizers, not to parents and teachers. That is part of their strategy. The reality is that they are losing. They are losers. But they can’t admit it. They can’t say that everything they pushed for has failed and failed and failed. Not even Bill Gates dare admit that his initiatives are responsible for massive teacher shortages and demoralization. What innovation are they responsible for? Boot camps? Children walking in straight lines?
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On target you are as usual . . .
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The train has left the station, all right
“Billy Gates” parody of Casey Jones by The Grateful Dead
Driving that train, with out a brain,
Billy Gates, you better, watch your greed.
Parents ahead, teachers behind,
And you know that testing just crossed their mind.
This Common Core makes it on time,
Leaves Gates Foundation ’bout a quarter to nine,
Hits White-House Junction at seventeen to,
At a quarter to ten you know it’s travelin’ again.
Driving that train, with out a brain,
Billy Gates, you better, watch your greed.
Parents ahead, teachers behind,
And you know that testing just crossed their mind.
Trouble ahead, states are in red,
Take my advice, plug for Opt-out instead.
Coleman is sleeping, the Common Core’s poo, it’s
Gone off the rails and done-for, that’s true.
Driving that train, with out a brain,
Billy Gates, you better, watch your greed.
Parents ahead, teachers behind,
And you know that testing just crossed their mind.
Trouble with you is the trouble with Rhee,
Got two good eyes but you still don’t see.
Come round the bend, you know it’s the end,
Pearson schemes and manure just steams
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I have a very hard time with the fundamental idea on that there’s some undiscovered big magic change that will “change everything”…
TRUE INNOVATION would be to stop working so hard at innovation — to pull back from the chaos of reform and change.
After all, the best minds in human history have developed education for thousands of years. Why do we think a Gates Foundation or Walton grant is going to discover some amazing magic?
Rather, we should accept that from this point education change is incremental – a slow process accumulating tiny changes. And not appropriate for massive investments (like the billions per year going into Common Core).
The result of stopping innovation would be powerful. It would create stability and stability creates the opportunity for principals and teachers to build what works. It would also save billions each year in lost educational time and expensive payments to consultants and trainers.
We have an exceptional school in our district that far outperforms despite a large population of low income and minority students. Was visiting with the superintendent about the school. What works? His observation: The same principal for over a decade has built stability in order to build success.
Constant change imposed top down (nationally & state-wide) just may be the single biggest waste in schools.
(Note that many companies would also find the most innovation by stopping their own “innovation” cycles of incredible wastage.)
(This is what I wrote recently on Quora.com in response to a question about “Innovations in Education”…)
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The greatest innovation would be if someone found the magic that would get ALL the children to pay attention to what’s being taught, ask questions, cooperate, ask more questions, do all the work, do it over if wrong, ask more questions and do it over until it’s right.
But then there would be so much work for teachers to correct, class loads would have to be limited to 12 or less instead of 50 or more as I’ve heard Bill Gates advocates.
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Mr. Chaltain:
Nuts!
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Check this out.http://thecrucialvoice.com/2015/10/07/the-education-reform-oligarchy-how-they-used-us/
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If the war is over, why was Arne’s final act, millions of federal dollars delivered to suspect politicians in Ohio’s capitol, for the benefit of charter schools?
With hope, it was a last desperate act, similar to the final months, when the confederacy and Nazi’s horded booty that remained from their unholy war against human decency.
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Not over! As long as unscrupulous people are allowed an opportunity to make a profit, there will be a fight. No for-profit schools allowed!
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Hang in there, Diane, until the last vestige of this insanity is stamped out! And all the rest of us must do the same!
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