This is something new. Two rightwing, pro-voucher advocacy groups are sponsoring a debate on August 19 among Republican hopefuls in Londonderry, Néw Hampshire.
In the past, presidential debates have been sponsored by the League of Women Voters or national television channels. This debate, however, is sponsored by two organizations–Campbell Brown’s “The 74” and Betsy DeVos’s American Federation for Children–that promote charters and vouchers and oppose teachers unions and tenure.
This would be like holding a debate sponsored by the National Rifle Association, the tobacco industry, or advocates for abortion.
The audience will hear plenty about “our failing schools” but they are not likely to hear that test scores on NAEP are at their highest point ever, as are graduation rates. Or that dropout rates are the lowest ever. Prepare to hear the sponsors rattle on about how terrible our schools are, how lazy and greedy our teacher are, and why we need to privatize our schools. Don’t expect to hear anything about the nation’s high child poverty rate or a blunt admission that poverty is tightly correlated with poor academic performance.
Amen. No surprise. Nevertheless, this is still an OMG. Diane, again … thank you! High correlation between zip codes and test scores! Yes, it’s about poverty. The problem has always been about poverty. But the $$$$$ fools would like us to blame the impoverished for not having boot straps when so many poor don’t even have boots. Sigh.
Neither of these organizations really gives a darn about educating the vast majority of at-risk kids who are failed by public schools. If they did, they would be opening charter schools that do everything in their power to KEEP those children instead of charter schools that weed them out by making them feel “misery” (as a Success Academy principal wrote) if they aren’t learning fast enough.
I would like to hear one question to each of those Republican candidates: What happens to the little children who are made miserable and suspended from charter elementary school until their parents are left with Hobson’s choice: Let them remain and suffer psychological damage by remaining at a charter school where every administrator and teacher has made it clear that the child doesn’t “fit”. Or “voluntarily” pull them out so they can attend an underfunded public school with no resources in huge class sizes for all the young students — mostly at-risk — that those charter schools that pretend to care about poor kids will not and cannot educate?
Their “solution” is to get middle class families with kids who are easy to teach (and a smaller number of poor students whose parents will do all that is asked of them and who can learn easily) out of the public schools. And let the children left behind rot. It is truly appalling that any right-thinking person defends this and refuses to question the charter schools about how many at-risk children are leaving. Shameful.
I wonder how people would react if the NEA and AFT sponsored a candidate debate about education. That makes as much sense as a debate sponsored by two hard-right anti-teacher, anti-public education groups.
These are not debates. They are focus groups, conducted to test the sound bites that will pander best to the target audiences.
And see who delivers the best zingers.
Please, get behind Bernie. He’s honest.
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How interesting that the debate is going to be held during what for many districts is the first week of school. For my district it is the first student day. Great way to start the year on a positive note! 🙂
I’m hoping that some NH teachers, administrators, and board members show up and politely hiss…
I have tried searching for a way to get into the lottery and have emailed a couple of contacts I found, but so far no one has replied.
I’m trusting that they will be compelled to invite the Superintendent… and if so they might also feel compelled to call on him… and if they do they will get a tough question…
I posted the link to register below.
What superintendent? My superintendent? Sorry, I’m not clear as to whom you are referring!
The Londonderry Superintendent… That’s where the event is being held…
Sorry! I believe the Londonderry Superintendent is Nathan Greenberg? I don’t know him so have no idea what his stance is regarding charters, et al. Do you know him? Re you going t the event?
I know him. He’s in agreement with everything on this blog… and he’s not at all timid about speaking his mind. I will be out of state but doubt that I would be able to get in given my political leanings (my cars have Sanders stickers 😉
Thanks for the info! There’s no problem getting in– you just go to the site and register!
Using a public high school venue in your war against public education is the height of hypocrisy. These folks are shameless. Sure, they paid to use the facilities, but these facilities would not have been available had it not been for the existence of public schools to begin with.
Just like the United Way sponsoring debates in LAUSD school board elections, these are opportunities for the reformsters to shape the conversation. it hardly matters what the candidates say; the real investment here is in framing the discussion.
You know, I watched the debates, and they had a veritable tone and texture of something I could not quite put my finer on, but now I finally have.
I finally see that the debates took on the tenor of a a hybrid between a reality show and American Idol, where each contestant had a swagger and self promoting, self-absorbed aura, and each judge was snarky and “gotcha” instead of provocative and fact finding. Each judge would lunch a torpedo at the contestant and the contestant would launch a bigger one back to the judge and/or to an opponent.
There were smirks, grins, chuckles, and sarcastic rolling of the eyes. There was pivoting of the head side to side to indicate disapproval and raised eyebrows to show defensiveness.
There were myriad retorts from the Mr. cheap-shot-and-shiny-packaged Moliere himself, Donald Trump, and there were startling confessions from Scott Walker that put women in a metaphorical state of being buried up to the neck and stoned. This was indicated unabashedly by the ultra-chauvinistic Walker, whose own wife he would seemingly have die in order to give birth to a baby that would put her life at grave risk. Or, heaven forbid, if Walker’s wife were brutally raped and had horrible memories and neurosis from the experience, Walker, according to his own principles, would still make her give birth to the ensuing and permanent reminder.
Walker said at one point before these debates that he is prepared to sign into law a 20-week abortion ban without any exceptions for victims of rape or incest, arguing that women are concerned with those issues “in the initial months” of pregnancy. I guess he would know since he is a man. Walker is the picture-perfect poster boy for the mediocrity American culture has raised as its highest level of expression: moronic, simple minded, very well funded, political connected, masterfully deceptive, and vested in state authority.
My point is that these candidates are frightening, incompetent, narcissistic, oligarchical, and just plain off-the-wall-crazy.
Between Rand Paul proudly declaring that the GOP has worked hard for over a decade to oppose a single payer healthcare system and Donald trump asserting to Cher that he has no rug atop his head, that “It’s the real thing, and that he pledges not to discuss her numerous unsuccessful plastic surgeries, I could not help but think to that this debate was an ultimate metaphor for the the disconnect between the average American person and the plutocrats who live and work in an Super PAC tower.
And there was nothing amusing about the debates, even if they read like a snarky stand up comedy competition.
There are tens of millions of people in this country who are suffering horribly.
People are saddled with higher education debt, never able to buy a home, sick and dying as a result of lack of access to Obamacare in which the compulsory insurance policies do not cover a condition or the premiums have shot up, stuck with their kids in once-excellent public schools that have been starved of legitimate funding and reduced to a skeletal staff, and dumbed down by the paucity of real journalism, that is now controlled by corporate agendas and bought media. This list is much longer, but I have little time to write in these next few days.
The GOP debate had little dignity and even less truth to it. These debaters are bonafide looney, dangerous, and disconnected, no differently than had been Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette, who lived isolated and opulent lives in grand palaces and who eventually faced a fate our current politicians might one day face, according to Picketty.
How could I not vote for Sanders?
When was this debate????
Duane,
I was writing about comments from the candidates that flew around during and before the debate.
Although I despise Trump, I loved his comment that all politicians are stupid. That’s all I needed to hear. Of course, I don’t agree with him at all about Mexico, and being someone who speaks a lot of Spanish frequently, I find him offensive at best. He is clearly racist.
But anyone who rips into the GOP is, genuine or disingenuous, tapping into a truth that was always there and until now, refused to be uncovered. The GOP has mutated into something not even Ronald Reagan would have recognized, nor the “socialist” Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower.
PUH-LEEEZE!
I will further say that most pols on either side of the aisle are rotten to the core, and there are a scant handful of decent people on either side as well.
After all the smirky, sarcastic laughter one gets out of Trump, one is almost left with tears, screams, and nightmares to resort to.
But remaining calm, focused and proactive is the best antidote to any of this American horror story.
The debate will be August 19 in NH
Read Trumps post debate comments about Megyn Kelly. Disgusting, perverse, and so misogynistic, it makes me wonder what a Trump presidency would do to women. What is even more disturbing is 20% of Republicans support this guy.
I watched parts of then hosted by FOX.
Cx:
I watched parts of a Q and A forum hosted by FOX for the GOP. I referred to to as a debate, because in part, it was.
Robert,
I guess the rhetoricalness and sardonicness of the question didn’t come through in the written form, eh!?!
Now it did.
Maybe the “Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus” will help:
Too funny!
Love your comment, Robert.
Thank you, Yvonne. I look forward to your posts as well.
Eloquently stated, Mr. Rendo. If only the Huffington Post or Valerie Strauss would run your comment with a headline so it gets some needed attention.
I’d have to edit, as the language is too dense.
Don’t I wish, Eleanor!
Thank you.
And make sure Flesch–Kincaid is in single digits for the low information, teacher-bashing public. I’m already dreading going back with useless VAM, non-classroom “experts” at the statehouse telling me why I am a pedagogical POS, and now a well timed, anti-education, feeding frenzy debate by Republicans. Wake me when it is over.
Wake up sleepy head, and fight along with the rest of us. You are a powerful writer.
I notice that — for this “summit” — the district is examining the gym’s infrastructure, electricity and plumbing. No thought of doing that for the students who use it every day, evidently. And what does it say about our priorities that air conditioning is being trucked in for this event? Wait, but no… I forgot, poor student performance is solely the teachers’ fault. Oh, and Londonderry is one of the best-funded school systems in the state, btw.
I also see they are doing a lottery to see who can be in the audience– wonder if it will go any better than the St. Anselm’s debate, where they used the same process and couldn’t even come close to filling the venue.
Great post. Bet there was no AC during the Lincoln/Douglas debates or at the Philadelphia Convention. Since these guys have a clairvoyant relationship with the Founding Fathers, maybe they should they should try living more like them – no central air and heating, no health insurance, actually push a plow rather than be a clod.
The the pampered candidates and cheering audience should sit in the hot building and eat the same lunch our cafeteria crews strive to make with pennies for food budgets. Make the GOP eat cake.
“push a plow rather than be a clod”– I love it. So should NH, but the “summit” is practically in MA, of course.
Again, Diane, you are a guru! Everything you say, deserves respect & reading. Teachers are feeling worthless, taken advantage of and beaten down. Large classes exist in high poverty areas, and it doesn’t seem to be changing at all. I teach in this environment daily, and parents do not understand, or are apathetic to what is going on!
It is not a debate if everybody agrees on the same thing. I doubt any of them will support democracy and its institutions like public education.
But they will support big business and the very wealthy and screw everyone else. They are socially and emotionally disabled. Sadly, they or their descendants will pay for it dearly one day, in this or some other lifetime if things don’t turn around.
Of course, I acknowledge that it is the “We” that will have to turn things around.
Honestly, I think the candidates are stunned that Trump is the guy to beat and how he bullied them over at the debate. When bullies meet bigger bullies. Christie, Kasich, Bush, Walker were cowering and refuses to really confront Trump. Only Paul and Fiorina came close to having a backbone.
You’re right, and yet they all stink.
Here is the link to register:
http://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-education-summit-new-hampshire-registration-17935434367?aff=ehomecard