In this interview with Peter Cunningham, EduShyster gains his insights into the current thinking of the billionaire reformers.
Peter Cunningham was Arne Duncan’s communications director during Duncan’s first term. In Washington, he was known as “Arne’s Brain.” He is smart, charming, and well-spoken. So far as I know, he was never a teacher, but that is not a qualification these days for holding strong views about fixing the public schools. Cunningham is now back in Chicago. He started a blog called “Education Post,” which was funded with $12 million from the Broad Foundation, the Walton Family Foundation, Bloomberg Philanthropies, and an anonymous philanthropy. Its goal, proclaimed at the outset, was to introduce a more civil tone into education debates and to advance certain ideas: “K-12 academic standards, high-quality charter schools, and how best to hold teachers and schools accountable for educating students.” Translated, that means it supports Common Core standards, charter schools, and high-stakes testing for teachers, as well as school closings based on testing.
You might say it is on the other side of almost every issue covered in this blog, as Ed Post praises “no-excuses” charter schools, standardized testing, Teach for America, and other corporate-style reforms.
EduShyster asked Cunningham if he feels the blog is succeeding, and he cites Nicholas Kristof’s recent column–admitting the failure of most reform efforts and the need to focus on early childhood programs–as an example of progress. When she pressed him about his “metrics” for “betterness,” he replies:
Cunningham: I think that an awful lot of people on the reform side of the fence are thrilled by what we’re doing. They really feel like *thank God somebody is standing up for us when we get attacked* and *thank God somebody is willing to call out people when they say things that are obviously false or that we think are false.* When I was asked to create this organization—it wasn’t my idea; I was initially approached by Broad—it was specifically because a lot of reform leaders felt like they were being piled on and that no one would come to their defense. They said somebody just needs to help right the ship here. There was a broad feeling that the anti-reform community was very effective at piling on and that no one was organizing that on our side. There was unequivocally a call to create a community of voices that would rise to the defense of people pushing reform who felt like they were isolated and alone.
EduShyster: That expression you see on my face is incredulity. But please go on sir. I want to hear more about the isolation and alone-ness of people pushing reform. How they are faring today?
Cunningham: Take Kevin Huffman. Now you can disagree with him on policy, but he felt like people were waking up everyday and just attacking him on social media. He tried to respond, and he just felt like it didn’t matter. By 2012-2013, Team Status Quo—your label not mine—was very effectively calling a lot of reform ideas into question. I mean look around the country. Huffman’s gone, John King is gone, John Deasy is gone, Michelle Rhee is gone. I’ve created the ability to swarm, because everyone felt like they were being swarmed. We now have people who will, when asked, lean in on the debate, when people feel like they’re just under siege.
There is much in this interview that is fascinating, but most interesting to me is that the billionaires, who have unlimited resources were “feeling isolated and alone.” They felt they were “being piled on and that no one would come to their defense.” They needed to hire bloggers to defend them.
This is indicative, I think, of the fact that social media is very powerful, and those who oppose the “reformers” own social media. The pro-public education voices are in the millions–millions of teachers, principals, parents, and students. The billionaire reformers hire thousands. Whether you consider the more than 200 bloggers who are part of the Education Bloggers Network, which advocates for public education, or consider Twitter and Facebook, the critics of billionaire-backed reform and privatization are many, are outspoken, and command a huge forum. No wonder the billionaires are feeling lonely and isolated. They can create astroturf organizations like StudentsFirst, Education Reform Now, 50CAN, TeachPlus, Educators4Excellence, and dozens more groups, but it is typically the same people running a small number of organizations and issuing press releases.
Is it time to feel sorry for the billionaires?
Be sure to read the comments that follow the interview.

More like “Post-Education” I should think.
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I wish we had thought out policy — before we spent all that effort pushing policy down a very steep hill.
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“Huffman’s gone, John King is gone, John Deasy is gone, Michelle Rhee is gone.”
I don’t really buy that. For one thing John King isn’t “gone”.
The fact is putting polarizing and “disruptive” managers in for a short period is a very common approach used in business reorganizations. Ed reformers didn’t invent this- they took it from the private sector. The idea is to shove thru huge changes in a short period of time and then the disruptive and polarizing manager moves on and everyone in the organization is told they all have accept the whole agenda, put the past behind them and work together.
Broad is simply now on Phase Two of what is a common (if tragically misguided, in my opinion) business reorganization plan, which is where Cunningham comes in. First you bust it up, then you put it back together as your new model. They can bust it up without the rank and file (and the public, in this instance), but they can’t put it back together without the rank and file and the public.
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“When I was asked to create this organization—it wasn’t my idea; I was initially approached by Broad—it was specifically because a lot of reform leaders felt like they were being piled on and that no one would come to their defense.”
“by Broad”
Does anyone else need further clarification that a few plutocRATS are running the ed reform train???
We mis-focus when we say “corporate reform” as that term is far too encompassing to be valuable and it can make honorable, hard working people who work in the corporate world turned off and against our efforts to break the PLUTOCRATICs stranglehold on destroying public education in order to privatize it.
PLUTOCRATIC PRIVATEERS with their WHORING MEDIA AND GAGA supposed educators.
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Cunningham also said “There was a broad feeling that the anti-reform community was very effective at piling on and that no one was organizing that on our side.”
Whoever transcribed the interview spelled “broad’ with a lowercase “b”, but there is good reason to suspect that it was actually supposed to be uppercase.
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“Peter Cunningham was Arne Duncan’s communications director during Duncan’s first term. In Washington, he was known as “Arne’s Brain.”
He was Arne’s brain? And he left?
Well that might explain what has happened — since he left, at least
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Well, I have to respectfully question the implication here: As if Arne was some kind of “brain” prior to this Cunningham guy departing? Really now…
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I’m not feeling sorry for the billionaires, or the millionaires for that matter. We may own social media but they own the legislature and the White House and Supreme Court in this damaged democracy of ours. I am hoping, now that Bernie Sanders has announced, that he will use the opportunity to get a pro- teacher and pro-public education message circulating which will move the voting public to demand change, including the demise of Citizens United.
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Just as a citizen, I’d be really interested to know how closely the Obama Administration coordinated with Eli Broad.
You know, if President Obama was putting together an education department that was composed exclusively of members of the “the ed reform movement” he might have mentioned that to voters. Education Post is ridiculously one-sided, which shouldn’t surprise anyone, because it was created to advocate for the ed reform movement. Is that also true of the Obama Administration? How hijacked are they? Completely?
Eli Broad and Bill Gates can do whatever they want with their money, but the federal government is supposed to have a broader and more representative focus. It isn’t optional. It’s their job. They work for all of us, NOT just this narrow and cliquish “movement”.
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In the 2009/2010 Annual Report of the Broad Foundation (page 5) it says:
“The election of President Barack Obama and his appointment of Arne Duncan, former CEO of Chicago Public Schools, as the U.S. secretary of education, marked the pinnacle of hope for our work in education reform. In many ways, we feel the stars have finally aligned.
With an agenda that echoes our decade of investments—charter schools, performance pay for teachers, accountability, expanded learning time and national standards—the Obama administration is poised to cultivate and bring to fruition the seeds we and other reformers have planted.”
On page 10 it says:
“Prior to becoming U.S. secretary of education, Arne Duncan was CEO of Chicago Public Schools, where he hosted 23 Broad Residents. Duncan now has five Broad Residents and alumni working with him in the U.S. Department of Education.”
For link references and more on Broad see Who is Eli Broad and why is he trying to destroy public education?
http://www.defendpubliceducation.net/
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Duncan has picked big public fights with teachers unions including his ridiculous and unseemly public endorsement of a state court case in California.
Is there any instance where the Obama Administration bucked Gates or Broad?
If they were planning on relinquishing public schools to two billionaires they probably should have told the public. I know it’s probably career suicide in DC to contradict “The Movement” but this is ridiculous. No one elected Eli Broad. It is unfair and deceptive to hand him US public schools.
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Those investments made by the Broad Foundation also included cultivating Randi Weingarten as an “asset” (described as such in the Foundation’s 2009 annual report).
As one of Broad’s “assets,” I’d say she’s given him a pretty good return on his investment.
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Chiara,
In the post-election transition and in the early months of the new administration, Broad and Gates funded staff for the Education Department.
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“Is that also true of the Obama Administration? How hijacked are they? Completely?”
ANSWER: Yes. And yes.
Sorry. But as someone who worked like the dickens to get Obama elected, you couldn’t possibly be more disappointed than I am.
And boy am I ever disappointed.
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There was nobody or nothingnothing to “hijack:” Obama has been tight with so-called ed reformers from the beginning.
He wasn’t “hijacked;” he was a Trojan Horse.
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I’d also like to know why the current and former Obama Administration and Broad employees (but I repeat myself!) continue to promote bogus stats.
I don’t care if they’re completely innumerate, they must know by now that “100% of 50%” isn’t “100%”, because they’ve had it explained to them about 20 times.
If my public high school lost the bottom quarter of the class somewhere between 7th grade and high school graduation we’d have higher college acceptance rates too.
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“There was a broad feeling that the anti-reform community was very effective at piling on and that no one was organizing that on our side.”
Can you find the missing capitalization in the above sentence?
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Jon,
I saw that too and it’s actually very ironic and funny.
“A Broad feeling” — by a single person.
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Exactement❢ I award you one Value Added, Monsieur❢
But do not think your examination is done with one question merely. Oh, not so EZ. Here’s a more info-intense reading from the original post:
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We’re funded through the middle of 2017. If we get to January 2017 and the reform landscape is in a different place, everyone takes a breather and we have a new president who is at least broadly aligned with the broad policies and states haven’t really retreated, I think that I would then go to my funders and propose that we really spend a lot more time educating parents, which is a much more expensive thing to do.
Your Value Added Mission is: One or two missing capitals, and which, exactly?
You have 30 seconds ⌚ ⌚ ⌚ You may begin …
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$12 Million is a HUGE amount for just a blog. From reading and interacting on Twitter with Cunningham and those who look like they are the posse that was bought to swarm and rant against people who support public education, it looks like they have tried to cover their bases by buying some people of color, too.
The language used to describe what so-called “reformers” have been doing has to be comprehensible to the masses and a lot of regular people don’t understand the plutocracy or get why privatization is contrary to the public good. However, many do understand what “colonization” is and get that it is a very serious issue, as Jitu described corporate education “reform.”
I think it would be wise to use the word “colonization,” since it is the truth, as demonstrated in New Orleans and elsewhere. Using it repeatedly will make it very difficult for common folks to accept what those who have been bought are saying, in their efforts to justify supporting the wealthy white carpet baggers who have been colonizing other people’s turf. Since they are sponsored by corporations, I don’t have a problem with using the term corporate colonization.
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It’s a lot for a blog but it’s not a lot for ed reform billionaires.
The Arnolds just spent 5 million dollars in Illinois.
One state. 5 million dollars.
Education Post is chump change compared to how much they’re willing to pour into privatization, and Democrats in DC helped them buy our public ed system every step of the way.
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“The language used to describe what so-called “reformers” have been doing has to be comprehensible to the masses and a lot of regular people don’t understand the plutocracy or get why privatization is contrary to the public good.”
If the opposite is true why don’t we nationalize all private ventures and follow the old USSR for the good of the nation?
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I think it’s great that you argue to privatize public schools. Sincerely.
What do you think it will take before ed reform politicians admit this?
I don’t have any problem with an argument to privatize public schools. I have a problem with people who won’t admit that’s what they’re doing WHILE we’re watching them do it.
They didn’t sell this honestly and they know it. I read these amazingly arrogant ed reform plans about “transforming governance” and “relinquishing” public schools to private operators and I know President Obama and Governor Kasich didn’t run on that, because I live here. They don’t run on it now. When Governor Kasich sends political operatives into my rural district I don’t hear a word about “government schools” and ending school boards. That’s because Governor Kasich knows he won’t get elected on that.
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True. Kasich is a Jack Kemp, supply side, free marketer when seeks to increase the wealth of John Kasich. He can not survive public scrutiny which is why he surrounds himself with handlers.
We see privatization now at the university level as state support dwindles – top heavy administrations, adjuncts on Walmart wages, small schools driven out of the market, rising tuition, consultants and cronyism instead of learning.
So we want to run the schools like a business? Enron, GM, Lehman Brothers? I never understood that blind adherence to business models as a solution to everything.
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I would say your point could be taken either way as a comment on the failure of today’s economy. While the USSR was outspent militarily into ruin, it is pretty clear the U.S. massive privatization movement started under Reagan is failing miserably and headed for a similar collapse. Republicans finally acknowledged wealth inequality as a serious problem, yet in true GOP fashion seem unable to govern towards a solution. Unlike free market zealots who believe unfettered competition magically creates a sustainable society in their selective reading of Adam Smith, pragmatists know that there is a place for Public Good and free markets need adult supervision.
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Or why don’t we just privatize everything, Raj, all of the commons, including the police and fire departments, every public road, parking space and bridge, each national, state and local park, all public libraries, colleges, etc.?
Strip the US bone dry of the common good, because that’s like “the old USSR” and it prevents capitalists from completing their hostile takeover of the last vestiges of America. Power to the profiteering privatizers! Not.
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Brilliant analogy. Absolutely stunning in its insight. Don’t tell me…but your friends call you “Einstein”, right?
Everyone knows that if you raise any objection to people taking TAX DOLLARS meant for educating our children—nobody is “selecting” or “choosing” their tax bill—then you MUST be advocating “communism”.
So obtuse. Are you trying to be cute here or are you really that hollow upstairs?
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90% of all businesses fail after launching themselves. Why would you consider this a good model for our schools?
It’s like arguing that professional sports is a good career to push our kids into, by arguing that since Michael Jordan and Tom Brady and Curt Schilling all made millions playing sports, that this means all kids will grow up to do the same.
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Raj’s question is very ironic.
Public schools have been locally (democratically) controlled for a very long time.
The ones who are trying to “nationalize” education — put it under the control (indeed under the boot) of the national government — are the “reformers”.
What “reformers” are doing is the spitting image of the Soviet approach, with central planning, central control, national testing, punishment for those who don’t toe the party line and all the rest.
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Gee, Raj, given your tendency to use fallacies – the fallacy of the false choice, in this case – instead of arguments, you must have gone to one of those “failing” public schools.
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This is their Twitter feed. Try to find something positive about a public school.
It’s nearly 100% promotion of charter schools interspersed with stern, scolding lectures on how we all have to take standardized tests.
So is this what it’s like inside the Obama Ed department? Public schools are completely ignored other than using our kids as data collection devices for the Common Core?
Public schools haven’t done so hot under federal and state ed reform leadership, and one starts to understand why when one reads “movement” sources.
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They’re right here, too, not just on Twitter or Cunningham’s blog, but few own up to it.
Swarming is an all out assault, not a defense, and procuring an army of mercenaries can be costly. That’s the reason for the $12M.
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Yep, and we’re pretty good at recognizing them each time they post their subsidized remarks.
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Christine Langhoff: pardon the impertinence but I think “substandard” would do just as well “subsidized.”
I continue to be amazed at the poor quality of the arguments made by the shills and trolls this blog attracts—
Bill and his peers [word play!] aren’t getting their money’s worth.
Or perhaps, better stated, they might be the best they can buy or that can be bought. After all, when you shop at the Rheephorm 99¢ Store don’t expect to purchase world-class Mercedes-Benz quality argumentation.
Just my dos centavitos worth…
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What to do? I suggest we call this out whenever we see it: on blogs, Twitter, letters to the editor, comments in newspaper articles on the web, comments on blogs. It will take seconds. Six characters is all you need:
#swarm
Remember what Diane says: “We are many. They are few. We will win.”
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What happens when you give a party with an open bar, but almost no one shows up?
Alexa ranks Arne’s brain, Peter Cunningham’s
Education Post.org (funded with $12 million from Walton, Broad, etc.)
Global rank: 712,724
Rank in the United States: 261,623
115 sites are linked in
VERSUS Diane Ravitch.net (how much funding did Diane get to launch her Blog? :o)
Global rank: 68,738
US rank: 12,968
2,083 sits linked in
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Thanks, Lloyd. To underline your point about my blog, I accept no advertising nor any funding from any source. I pay the cost of the WordPress blog. There are no other costs.
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I did NOT want Cunningham at my convention. But, what could I do? So, Peter Cunningham came to Orlando where my convention for NCTE was held. I put together several sessions where teachers provided feedback re: ARNE’s “Listening to Teachers Tour.” Teachers repeatedly said: TOO MUCH TESTING!” When I spoke to Cunningham I asked, “What did you learn?” His response was, “I got it. Too much testing.” I relied, “That’s right, TOO MUCH TESTING.” His next comment was, “But how are we going to evaluate teachers?”
Cunningham is a corporate person with no experience whatsoever and has no clue nor desire to get a clue about the destructive nature of the current education policies. Obviously, $$$$$ talks to politicians.
I wrote off Cunningham a long time ago. He’s not worth my breath. Besides I don’t have money.
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I hope someone is still reading this thread. I just wanted to say. To me, Peter Cunningham’s most elucidating remark was, “: “we are saying over and over on our blog that overtesting is a problem and that we should be reducing it, and reminding people that the federal mandate is only 17 tests—the typical kid takes 113. Let’s take a look at the other causes of overtesting, things that are locally controlled and can be fixed right away. We’re having a debate in Washington about how much testing to do under ESEA. Fine—let’s have the debate. But in the meantime we can radically reduce testing at the local level.
Before we get into the details of the absurd numbers claimed, what jumped out at me was “things that are locally controlled and can be fixed right away… we can radically reduce testing at the local level.” In other words, federal testing mandates are obviously the way to go– district teachers [& that includes you, local supporters/ families/ voters with your BOE’s], cease & desist with your lousy teacher-designed assessments.
THE DETAILS: The typical kid takes 113 annual tests K-12?
Subtract the federally mandated 17, another 2 for PSAT and SAT. That leaves 94 ‘typical’ annual tests in addition to PARCC, PSAT, & SAT. Let’s assume Cunningham means major tests roughly equivalent in time to prep & administer– that would be your middle & high-school teacher-designed midterms and finals (to assess what was actually taught). He wants us to get rid of them. (Guess he thinks PARCC is a viable substitute). So subtract another 14 [2 per year, 6th-12th]– , that leaves 80.
What are these 80 tests — not PARCC– not PSAT– not teacher-designed midterms & finals– that the ‘typical kid takes’ K-12? Averaged over K-12 that’s another 6 annual tests (1 every 6 wks). So what are we talking about here. 30-min chapter tests– 20min quizzes– administered in individual classrooms? God forbid a teacher should take periodic assessments to test the waters & see if they need to adjust teaching methods?== No wait! They shouldn’t be doing that!! Fed & state – mandated standardized tests will see to all that!! (NOT!!!)
Bottom line: Peter Cunningham says, hey, 17 federally-mandated tests is nothing. Get rid of those teacher-designed midterms and finals– our tests & test-prep materials are all you need. [Especially since they coordinate precisely with CCSS– NOT!]
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So Kevin Huffman “felt like people were waking up everyday and just attacking him on social media.” Yep… Guilty as charged! And I’m glad he’s gone!
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I knew it! For a very long time you could see the obvious cliches, the stale “talking points” repeated again and again, the flat, irrelevent “arguments” and “rejoinders” that generally relied upon personal attacks, character assassinations and the like.
And even though I had no real proof of it, I could just sense that there were “hired hands”, mercenaries, hit men, contract killers—sent out with their orders from “The Big Boss”, here to do destruction in the most “expedient” way possible.
I would often say, “Go tell the people funding you that they’re not getting their money’s worth” but little did I realize how pinpoint accurate I was.
Now that they’ve effectively admitted it, let’s continue to call them out for the lazy, uninformed, nasty, name-calling, cliche recycling, little hired hands they are.
Sickening. But not surprising.
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Yup. and this is what astroturf is all about. We’ve seen several examples of it in the corporate colonization of public education, where organizations were established by big money and falsely passed off as grassroots, such as Parent Revolution, also funded by Broad, as well as Gates & Walton.
Be alert to the tactics they use which typically come from the business world, too, such as marketing strategies like saturation messaging, rebranding, swarming, etc.
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Feel sorry for the poor billionaires and their flying monkeys?
As the good people of Appalachia might say, I wouldn’t piss on them if their hearts were on fire.
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I was able to teach for44 years while being mercilessly attacked by Cunningham-like fellow travelers who have zero understanding of what goes on in educating students, especially in our inner cities. My answer to all these whiners: If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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