CBS News reported on the growing backlash against PARCC testing in Néw Jersey, where many object to the test and plan to refuse it.
The State Commissioner of Education David Hespe dismissed concerns about a high failure rate (which other states have experienced), saying that students needed to be challenged because life isn’t easy.
It is also the case that life is not a multiple-choice test.
Diane Ravitch's blog 
Because our kids living in poverty had it so cushy with teacher grades before standardized testing told them they were “objectively” failures??
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When more students fail a test then pass it, it is either bad teaching or a bad test. Since the teachers didn’t write the test and for the most part aren’t supposed to be teaching to the test…I’d say it’s a bad test and should be refused!
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“…because life isn’t easy.”
Life is not always easy but testing ensures that life at school is perpetually miserable.
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“Shut up and sit down!”
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: o )
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No doubt our jet setting Governor’s appointed commission to look into this will conclude the tests are great, common core is great, Cami Anderson is great, etc., blah blah blah. When does the misery end? Hespe is a tool as are all of the Christie administration. OMG, did you see on the news Booker may make a run for President? May God help us all.
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Three tickets to choose from, Republican, Republican Lite, or third party, hmmm.
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This is kind of interesting. It’s testimony from an OH superintendent to the legislature on how his well-resourced and technologically prepared district is having a lot of trouble with PARCC testing. He says the problems are “on the PARCC side”
He can “guarantee” if his district is having trouble, it will be worse in districts with less funding and technology because “we have not solved the logistical issues”.
He testified February 3rd, so lawmakers are aware they’re having problems with the online testing.
Click to access 011e788f-a47a-4230-9e95-c59a5060ccab.pdf
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I informed my local board of education during public comment that my son (6) will not be sitting for the PARCC testing (if it is still around) when he reaches third grade. I am quite serious as I feel PARCC and everything behind it is not in the best interest of any student – any teacher – any grade. Testing 8 year olds for career readiness is in itself inappropriate. Basically Common Core attempts to centralize everything – and this robs the spirit from the classroom. I feel this process it is hurtful to students for several reasons not limited to these:
1. PARCC will be administered on computer rather than paper which places pressure on our youngest of students to learn keyboarding (my son is already learning in first grade) and be exposed to computers even before they have had the experience and develop the proper motor skill to form letters correctly. The computer forms letters perfectly at the push of a button. In the perfect world I would prefer students be on computer much later. Students would benefit by working with real materials rather than inundating elementary schools with I-pads, laptops, “smart-boards” and all the other hardware “sugaring” up classrooms our youngest occupy. Tight school budgets are spending yet more on hardware just to accommodate computerized PARCC. It would make much more sense to give just one test on paper. A school’s network infrastructure, computer operating systems, and labs are not designed as a professional testing center is – and should not be. Tests of this kind are documents that require paper and are more practical on paper. Give an appropriate and elegant test once per year on paper and get the results to their teachers in a week. Perhaps that might be helpful.
2. The type of questions I found on PARCC in taking a practice test caused me a huge headache as they were twisted and confusing. I would not subject a young mind to such an assessment. In addition, activities in the classroom should not be centered on what is on this test. This robs the classroom of spontaneity – teaching moments – and valuable digression into areas of interest. A one size fits all top down totalitarian style mandated test is counter to our land’s free and open spirit.
3. Data collection – I will not have 400 points of data collected on my son and held in a database of a private company (already under investigation) for unknown future use. Centralizing this is an invasion of my son’s privacy and disrespectful. I will not have a third party testing company hold his data. Every parent needs to be concerned about this – it is Un-American! More than enough data to inform instruction can be obtained in various ways within the school itself.
4. Two tests per year are given. Massive amounts of instructional time is lost. Two tests because they will be used to evaluate teacher performance. This is flawed logic. There are way too many variables in the lives of students that can have dramatic effects on how they do in school. In addition, over evaluate a staff and you will have no time to inspire – no energy to motivate. Yet more tests, in most cases, are also administered for the so called “Student Growth Objectives“ – one more bad idea gone wild. Administrators have more than enough information within the building to inform instruction. In addition, local school districts are surrendering to a micromanaging overreach by the federal and state governments – as are teachers. What will be next? Teacher lesson plans from headquarters? We are going down a dangerous and undemocratic road.
An educational leader, in my opinion, must be a catalyst – must be the cause of positive excitement about the world – like of the world, real curiosity, knowing of the world! The American poet and philosopher Eli Siegel stated “The purpose of education is to like the world through knowing it“ and I wholeheartedly agree. I hope Mr. Hespe and other leaders will respectfully find out more about his important philosophy and extremely effective teaching method.
I believe that we are presently in a situation where teachers and students are not lifted up – but instead, insulted through SGOs, endless data collection, performance rubrics, and more. A once more collegial relationship is being replaced by a corporate style data collecting and crunching top down management – (a la McDonald’s) filling out endless computerized evaluations of teachers digitally warehoused by a centralized and privatized third party company. If more weight were given to supporting and lifting our teachers – more resources given to motivating, exciting, and further educating them – it would, in my opinion, be very wise – as our students, our children, my child, would benefit. We are missing that boat all should be on – parents, teachers, administrators, elected, BOE members, and our children.
I intend to be a vocal critic / advocate for my son and all his classmates at PTA meetings, BOE meetings and even council meetings in my own town. I hope more and more parents will object to mandating of Common Core / PARCC / teacher over- evaluation, and hope that the state reconsiders how it sees its schools, its teachers, and all its young residents across a most uneven (and unfair) financial spectrum. What is desperately needed is people centered decisions and laws – not profit centered.
I believe Dr. Maria Montessori saw children as individuals and respected the differences – and different rates of development found in each young mind – this is needed – not a one size fits all (profit centered) approach. Most importantly, in order to have schools be more successful everywhere, the state must work hard to close the huge financial gap within and between communities and lift communities rather than attempting to privatize schools in the most needy areas. That is no solution and an ugly cop out by our government that increasingly seems to be on the side of the profiteers – not the people.
David Di Gregorio, Parent
Englewood Cliffs, NJ
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DDG, Also check bills re testing in NJ legislature now & contact your state reps. Have you read Jersey Jazzman, Bob Braun’s Ledger, Curmudgucation. Advocates are essential even from high-performing districts like EC.
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I am pleased to see this groundswell of opposition. I would hate to calculate the number of hours wasted on this test by teachers and administrators across NJ alone. As a concerned parent I informed my local board of education during public comment that my son (6) will not be sitting for the PARCC testing (if it is still around) when he reaches third grade. I am quite serious as I feel PARCC and everything behind it is not in the best interest of any student – any teacher – any grade. Testing 8 year olds for career readiness is in itself inappropriate. Basically Common Core attempts to centralize everything – and this robs the spirit from the classroom. I feel this process it is hurtful to students for several reasons not limited to these:
1. PARCC will be administered on computer rather than paper which places pressure on our youngest of students to learn keyboarding (my son is already learning in first grade) and be exposed to computers even before they have had the experience and develop the proper motor skill to form letters correctly. The computer forms letters perfectly at the push of a button. In the perfect world I would prefer students be on computer much later. Students would benefit by working with real materials rather than inundating elementary schools with I-pads, laptops, “smart-boards” and all the other hardware “sugaring” up classrooms our youngest occupy. Tight school budgets are spending yet more on hardware just to accommodate computerized PARCC. It would make much more sense to give just one test on paper. A school’s network infrastructure, computer operating systems, and labs are not designed as a professional testing center is – and should not be. Tests of this kind are documents that require paper and are more practical on paper. Give an appropriate and elegant test once per year on paper and get the results to their teachers in a week. Perhaps that might be helpful.
2. The type of questions I found on PARCC in taking a practice test caused me a huge headache as they were twisted and confusing. I would not subject a young mind to such an assessment. In addition, activities in the classroom should not be centered on what is on this test. This robs the classroom of spontaneity – teaching moments – and valuable digression into areas of interest. A one size fits all top down totalitarian style mandated test is counter to our land’s free and open spirit.
3. Data collection – I will not have 400 points of data collected on my son and held in a database of a private company (already under investigation) for unknown future use. Centralizing this is an invasion of my son’s privacy and disrespectful. I will not have a third party testing company hold his data. Every parent needs to be concerned about this – it is Un-American! More than enough data to inform instruction can be obtained in various ways within the school itself.
4. Two tests per year are given. Massive amounts of instructional time is lost. Two tests because they will be used to evaluate teacher performance. This is flawed logic. There are way too many variables in the lives of students that can have dramatic effects on how they do in school. In addition, over evaluate a staff and you will have no time to inspire – no energy to motivate. Yet more tests, in most cases, are also administered for the so called “Student Growth Objectives“ – one more bad idea gone wild. Administrators have more than enough information within the building to inform instruction. In addition, local school districts are surrendering to a micromanaging overreach by the federal and state governments – as are teachers. What will be next? Teacher lesson plans from headquarters? We are going down a dangerous and undemocratic road.
An educational leader, in my opinion, must be a catalyst – must be the cause of positive excitement about the world – like of the world, real curiosity, knowing of the world! The American poet and philosopher Eli Siegel stated “The purpose of education is to like the world through knowing it“ and I wholeheartedly agree. I hope Mr. Hespe and other leaders will respectfully find out more about his important philosophy and extremely effective teaching method.
I believe that we are presently in a situation where teachers and students are not lifted up – but instead, insulted through SGOs, endless data collection, performance rubrics, and more. A once more collegial relationship is being replaced by a corporate style data collecting and crunching top down management – (a la McDonald’s) filling out endless computerized evaluations of teachers digitally warehoused by a centralized and privatized third party company. If more weight were given to supporting and lifting our teachers – more resources given to motivating, exciting, and further educating them – it would, in my opinion, be very wise – as our students, our children, my child, would benefit. We are missing that boat all should be on – parents, teachers, administrators, elected, BOE members, and our children.
I intend to be a vocal critic / advocate for my son and all his classmates at PTA meetings, BOE meetings and even council meetings in my own town. I hope more and more parents will object to mandating of Common Core / PARCC / teacher over- evaluation, and hope that the state reconsiders how it sees its schools, its teachers, and all its young residents across a most uneven (and unfair) financial spectrum. What is desperately needed is people centered decisions and laws – not profit centered.
I believe Dr. Maria Montessori saw children as individuals and respected the differences – and different rates of development found in each young mind – this is needed – not a one size fits all (profit centered) approach. Most importantly, in order to have schools be more successful everywhere, the state must work hard to close the huge financial gap within and between communities and lift communities rather than attempting to privatize schools in the most needy areas. That is no solution and an ugly cop out by our government that increasingly seems to be on the side of the profiteers – not the people.
David Di Gregorio, Parent
Englewood Cliffs, NJ
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Good for YOU and your child, David.
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Although Pearson moved many jobs from Upper Saddle River, NJ to Hudson Street, NYC (& PARCC’s website shows a D.C. address), Pearson still has many jobs at the new Hoboken location. They got a $66 million/ten-year tax credit from NJ for keeping those in state.
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OMG.
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Are we willing to ignore and deny the principles of learning theory and human development in our mad rush to standardize our children with “high stakes testing” ? Are we oblivious to the growing reality that critical thinking and critical writing are being demolished at the “alter” of testing ? Have we forgotten the principles of using tests for diagnostic purposes to improve both student learning and teaching designs that would foster both the love of learning and the depth of understanding about what we have learned ? Is this not the danger of putting those at the helm who are neither well informed nor interested in what the process of learning is about and what the benefits would be for the development and learning of our children ? Are we willing to entrust our most treasured gifts, our children, to those that would quantify and commodify them ??
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David,
What is an education laureate?
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I heard the tail-end of an interview with a leader of PARCC on NPR. He talked about how expensive it was to design these questions, but it was worth it because we were asking the test to do so very much…including evaluating the teachers!!! And judging to see if our schools are failing!!! Wow. These questions must be REALLY amazing to reveal all that. For you youngsters, there was a time that a test asked questions about a subject to see if the student had mastered the material. Period.
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These questions also evaluate the child’s home life and his community. A child who is subjected to poor nutrition or lack of sleep will not test to his ability either, but somehow, it’ll be the teacher’s and school’s fault. When will this madness end?
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I heard the same NPR piece and was appalled at the one-sidedness of the report. The same official said the cost was approximately $24 per student. My district has spent nearly $200,000 on the graphing calculators, headphones, and other supplies required to administer the tests. New decisions are made daily on logistics so it’s very stressful for all who will be administering the test. It doesn’t sound like Pearson is all that ready based on what I hear. The interviewer might have asked someone for a teacher’s perspective. But that would have been balanced.
Students are crying daily about the tests. I’d bet most teachers could easily identify students who are behind and need extra tutoring. We’re spending millions to do the same – with no funds to intervene after we identify who needs help with the PARCC. The money spent on tests would cover the costs of a lot of tutors.
I’m ashamed to think that we’re letting these people raid our communities’ funds, destroy our public schools, and -most of all- traumatize so many children. They won’t be around to help us rebuild what they’ve torn down.
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Diane, we are up to 95 NJ School Districts passing parental refusal of testing policies with humane alternatives for non testing kids, and growing.
New Jersey public ed supporters can head to Trenton on Thurs Feb 12th and testify before the Assembly Ed committee on 3 bills.
A 4561 creates a statewide parental refusal policy. A 3079 prohibits administration of Standardized tests before 3rd grade and A 4190 imposes a 3 yr moratorium on various uses of PARCC tests.
Go to: Committee room 16, 4th floor of State House Annex, 125 W. State Street, Trenton
Time: 10am on Thursday 2/12.
Anyone can testify, sign up slips are available in the committee room.
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Thank you for the info, Christine.
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Diane, maybe you should elevate Christine’s comment to a post? It is very important that folks in NJ contact our legislators.
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“Testify”
Testify to end the test
Justify the test arrest
PARCC it in the county jail
Nix the chance of making bail
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Yes, thank you, Christine!
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We have already outsourced all the jobs, and now we are dependent on foreign markets for selling our goods. The corporations really don’t need Americans to make good wages to buy stuff anymore. They certainly don’t need educated American workers. Thus they don’t need an educated workforce. Public schools were developed to produce good factory workers, nothing more lofty than that! Everything is market driven in US. They can always insource a brainy scientist or engineer from Germany, India, or China, if they need one. This is why college is getting so outrageously expensive, and this is why the public schools will be privatized. Education is no longer a right. If you want an education, then pay for it yourself. If you don’t have money, then the outlook is grim! (It already was pretty grim…) It’s sad, and it’s the end of a era. It’s official. The elite are tired of going through the motions. They aren’t going to even pretend anymore. It’s over.
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John,
We can still put pressure on our elected officials. We can demonstrate, organize, boycott, etc.
Did people feel this way (your way) during the labor movement of the 1930s?
No.
Did blacks and others feel this way during the civil rights movement of the 1960s?
No.
Did women feel this way when trying to get the right to vote in the 1920s?
No.
These were movements. People fought hard to achieve these rights.
Nothing is over.
Good will prevail over stupidity, narcissism, and greed. We outnumber the elite. Remember? There is power in numbers.
And NOTHING is over.
The fight is just startin’ . . . .
You can feel sad and disgusted. It is good to get in touch with those emotions. It shows you are alive and feeling.
After that, join the TENS OF MILLIONS of us throughout the country and put up your dukes. We’ll help you put the pugilist gloves on and teach you techniques.
You have lost a battle only if you believe you have . . . .
The vast majority of us have not. Join us.
We’re like family . . . . .
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Why should any 8 or 9 year old be required to take a standardized test with the added psychological burden of knowing that if they fail, that their favorite teacher might be fired? This is a test stressor that gets little play but will be very real for many children.
The threatening and punitive policies of NCLB waiver testing (Duncan’s Folly) will inflict damage in many unintended ways. Just another reason why non-educators should not be trusted to meddle in education policy. Working in the adult world provides zero insight into the realities of the ways in which young children think and act.
Here is a link to Peter Greene’s review of the PARCC high school ELA test. A must read for all New Jersey parents and educators:
http://curmudgucation.blogspot.com/2015/02/sampling-parcc.html
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From what I have read the real agenda behind PARCC is data mining being driven by McKinsey & Company. And most schools technical infrastructure is not ready for PARCC, not by a mile.
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Life isn’t easy indeed. He must be referring to having to listen to all the parents, teachers and even a superintend at the hearings and realizing that they are not to just following his guidelines.
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Reform Thesaurus
“Rigor” – high rates of test failure typically greater than 70% of test takers; high positive correlation with misery index.
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Interesting that children need to be challenged because life is not easy. However, an adult (like Hespe, himself) should have an easier time passing the New Jersey Bar exam.
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Thank you Robert Rendo my sentiments exactly!
Enough words, enough anger, get moving, fight back teachers! Safety in numbers!
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Carla,
We are all in this together. One of the greatest assets is that this is no longer a “teacher” thing, but a parent thing.
The male and female wolves raising a small litter sense their pups are being attacked by imperious golden eagles, and the wolves are now increasingly arching their backs and bearing their fangs, snarling.
Not a good time to be a raptor . . . . .
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Interesting that children need to be challenged but politicians, not so much!! In fact, not at all.
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The Common Core testing people should have told parents it’s two tests. Selling this as one test with two “components” was and is very misleading.
It’s two complete tests, taken at two different points in the year. That’s how anyone outside testing professional and teachers and administrators will view it.
They destroy their own credibility with this focus on marketing instead of just telling people what’s going on.
Parents here are just now finding out it’s two tests. They’ll feel tricked, and rightfully so.
http://education.ohio.gov/Media/Ed-Connection/Feb-9-2015/English-language-arts-end-of-year-practice-test
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“Life’s Cut Score”
Life ain’t easy
Pay the tolls!
Except for Deasy
And other pols
Life’s cut score
Is set quite high
So cry no more
You little guy
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“The Gardiner State?”
Chauncey Gardiner ain’t got naught
On what New Jersey’s Govnor’s got
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Hespe didn’t mention the students who attend private schools that don’t overtest . . . but their lives may be easier. SDP, will you please compose one of your delightful poems for them?
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Watching the CBS report, you’d think only “some” protests are occurring. That is most *definitely* not the case, Diane. The amount of backlash might as well be palpable, and is growing by the hour. It is frustrating and annoying to see so many informed parents and supporters giving crystal clear, fact-driven testimony to the New Jersey PARCC “study commission” only to see it invalidated by this interview. Disgusting.
Some very important bills are being reviewed tomorrow:
A-4165 – Allows parents or guardians to refuse high-stakes standardized tests with no punitive consequences for students.
A-3079 – Prohibits administration of standardized tests before 3rd grade.
A-4190 – Imposes a three-year moratorium on various uses of PARCC tests.
Here are the bills (A-4190 is not yet visible on the NJ Legislature site):
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2014/Bills/A4500/4165_I1.HTM
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2014/Bills/A3500/3079_I1.HTM
Learn more about what’s happening in NJ:
http://www.saveourschoolsnj.org/
https://www.facebook.com/SaveOurSchoolsNJ
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Here’s an excellent opinion piece on PARCC Assessments in New Jersey. Please share freely:
http://bit.ly/16Ty20q (Google Docs link)
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It is all developmentally inappropriate, and the results will be devastating to students, teachers, principals, and parents. This is exactly what the deformers wish to happen. It is all going by plan. It is a very sad time in public schools.
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YES, but we can revel in our solidarity and our numbers if we continue to organize and mobilize!
NOTHING is EVER without hope.
We have only fear to fear.
You know, Sad Teacher, we have nothing to lose by fighting the ruling elite. We only give a bully more power by allowing him to think he has power over us.
We far outnumber them. We always will. There are only so many slots to become a billionaire. The rest of us are multitudinous.
Let’s peacefully and politically beat the living crap out of them. It’s the only language they will understand.
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Diane and All,
Hurray to Bridgewater Raritan NJ BOE resolution!!!
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bridgewater-Raritan-Education-Association/268702819825650
Every BOE in NJ should do similar or better.
David
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I have been so proud of my state ever since the January 7, 2015 State Board of Education open public comment period. We filled 4 rooms of testimony (in two buildings) that day. Almost 100 people spoke out against the PARCC, and that was just the tip of the iceberg.
Trenton set the spark, and the press jumped on the bandwagon. We’ve had stories (that I’ve seen) about the PARCC refusal movement in The Star Ledger, on CBS News, in The Asbury Park Press, in The Alternative Press, in countless local papers, and the best TV coverage I’ve personally seen is this NJ Public Television/PBS-13 piece from earlier this week (and not just because I am interviewed in it via a terrible Skype connection to my iPad) http://www.njtvonline.org/news/video/legislation-addresses-parcc-test-controvery/ .
Our Opt Out of State Standardized Tests – New Jersey Facebook page has grown from about 2,700 prior to the January 7th meeting in Trenton to 7,443 as of this writing.
At the Jersey City meeting of the Governor’s PARCC Study Commission on January 28th, I watched parents, teachers, and even a Superintendent stand up, one after another, to speak intelligently, thoughtfully, and passionately about the problems the PARCC tests are causing at our schools. That generated more press coverage.
And then the following night in Jackson, NJ, even more parents and teachers spoke out against the tests. As I understand it, the testimony that night lasted for well over 5 hours (plus 4 hours in Jersey City the night before).
Tomorrow, as noted above, the state assembly’s education committee is hearing public testimony regarding three bills: A-4165 (enshrining parents’ opt-out rights in law, which is up for discussion only, unfortunately), A-4190 (preventing any graduation, placement, or other academic decisions to be made for students based on PARCC results for the next three years), and A3079 (prohibiting all standardized testing in grades K-2).
Take the PARCC events and screenings of Standardized have been popping up all over the state. We have more than 20 local “Cares About Schools” type groups scattered through our towns now. A grassroots group is even working on a GoFundMe campaign that has raised more than $4,000 of the $8,000 needed to fund three Choose to Refuse the PARCC billboards.
It’s been amazing to be a part of this movement, and I am so proud of my fellow citizens for standing up for public education. I was particularly proud of my local Board of Education this week, which passed (by a vote of 6-0) a resolution requiring all of our schools to offer educationally appropriate alternatives to kids whose parents refuse to allow them to test.
But we’ve still got a long way to go.
We’ve got to get those NJ assembly bills passed into law. We need to make sure that as a country, we do what it takes to ensure that the ESEA re-authorization doesn’t codify problematic education policy into law for years to come. And we need to plan a better future for our kids — one that values real learning and education in all subject areas over standardized test scores.
My local school district announced on Monday night that at its PARCC technology trials, 88% of students were able to complete the test. That’s 12% who weren’t able — due entirely to technology issues. The PARCC is a mess, but we parents need to get the word out and turn our small refusal movement into a massive groundswell. Testing starts in less than 3 weeks. The time is now. (Although I do expect our movement to grow exponentially between March and May once parents hear from their kids how awful the first round of tests really area.)
As a parent, I think the technology idiocy compounds all of the issues, but personally, I’m in this because assigning high-stakes consequences (for schools, teachers, and/or kids) to these tests forces narrowing of the curriculum. I’m speaking out tomorrow about what I’ve seen disappear from my kids’ schools. I urge New Jersey and the rest of the country to do the same. We really can make a difference for our kids. I’m amazed at how much real statewide, grassroots organizing can accomplish. But this is still the tip of the iceberg. We’ve got about a million public school kids in NJ scheduled to take this test, and about 7,000 members of our Opt-Out group. We need to grow the numbers further, and show that parents are fed up with what’s happening to our kids’ education.
We have the power — now we have to convince our neighbors and friends to stop assuming that we can’t change things, and to instead buckle down to make sure we can.
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Well, I for one am ready for Congress to step up and practice what they preach. It’s time for them to stop accepting medical insurance, sick pay, and should up all vacation other than 2 weeks per year. On top of that they need to have paychecks at the poverty level for their size family. They should not be able to accept lobby $$, kickbacks, or use family money or $$ earned before their swearing in. They get to prove that grit and determination will get the job done. If the budget isn’t balanced, or taxes are raised, or the country suffers ANY economic or military distress they will all be fired and labeled as failures. Oh wait…….albeit the loss of $$ and bennies and lucrative incomes they ARE ALREADY FAILURES. Only in the U$A.
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EASY for him to say when he hasn’t taken the TEST and he is being comfortably paid $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Leave OUR kids alone!!!!!
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