I posted this on my trip home from the hospital earlier today. I made a mistake and hit “publish” before I wrote the post. Here is the post that was supposed to accompany the title!
In a speech to the Education Writers Association, Arne Duncan said that racial isolation has gotten worse in the past two decades, including (one assumes) during his own tenure in office.
An article in Education Daily by Frank Wolfe (sorry, don’t have the link) says:
“While the Education Department has promoted a number of programs and measures to improve the achievement of disadvantaged students, the singularly thorny problem of racially isolated schools has remained and has worsened, Education Secretary Arne Duncan acknowledged on Tuesday.
“While [Brown v. Board of Education, 347 U.S. 483, 107 LRP 36247 (1954)] struck down de jure segregation as unconstitutional, de facto school seg- regation has worsened in many respects in the last two decades,” Duncan told the Education Writers Association national seminar in Nashville. “Since 1991, all regions of the nation have experienced an increase in the percentage of black students who attend highly segregated schools, where 90 percent or more of students are students of color. Here in the South, more than a third of black students attend such racially isolated schools. In the Northeast, more than 50 percent do.”
What? Who should be held accountable for this backsliding on our nation’s commitment to equality of educational opportunity (not separate but equal)?
The US Department of Education’s Office of Civil Rights has powerful enforcement powers. What are they doing about this retrograde trend? Are they demanding that charter schools reach out and seek integrated enrollments? What have they done in Chicago and Néw York City, both highly segregated urban school districts. What have they done about the proliferation of all-black vouchers? Why has Duncan been so forceful in advocating on behalf of racially segregated charter schools? When will he be held accountable for his failure to do anything to promote racial integration? How has he used the considerable powers of his office to make a difference?
The Department of Education responded to questions by Education Daily, defending its record.
“Six decades after Brown, the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights is vigorously working to steer America away from racial isolation,” ED said in a statement in response to questions from Education Daily®. “When we find examples of race segregation and discrimination, we put a stop to it. We negotiate settlements with districts to bring them into compliance with our civil rights laws. We carry a huge hammer. Any district that refuses to work with us faces the prospect of our withholding federal funds. Once those agreements have been signed, we closely monitor their implementation — sometimes for years. We issue guidance to schools on their responsibilities to ensure racial equality. We provide grass roots technical assistance at our regional OCR offices around the country. The goal that drives our work is simple — to promote excellence in education that’s colorblind and equal for all.”
Here is an example of empty bureaucratic blather. The US Department of Education has not played a forceful or effective role. If it had, segregation would not be worsening. Why don’t they just apologize and say, “We have really fallen down on the job. Our boss wants more charter schools, even though they are more segregated than the surrounding district. He likes to go to all-black schools and celebrate their success. Actually we have been sitting on our hands where racial integration is concerned, just like the last Bush administration. Frankly, racial integration is not on our radar screen these days. We can’t afford to offend the charter lobby. Sorry, our hands are tied.”

Duncan’s comments should be of no surprise, and timely. This is want Democrats want to do, ‘gin up the base’ as election day nears. Race baiting and victim-hood have proven successful
time and again, especially among those saddled with White guilt by people convinced THEY have benefited from past wrongs.
If Duncan believes this CRAP, perhaps he should look at the Dept of Education and the forty year history of social engineering rather than educating.
But, maybe Common Core will fix the problem, right after it cures the COMMON Cold! ajbruno14 gmail
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Ah, yes the world of Common Core. Where nobody gets hurt and nobody falls down, and everybody succeeds and we all skip into gleeful Common Core bliss, eternally grateful to have met one another under the rainbow that used to be known as the bell curve but that we somehow managed to overcome and finally make to Lake Woebegone.
I think you are right, AJ. I’m not surprised that he’s saying, “well, yeah. . .we didn’t fix the problem but it’s all just part of being vulnerable to entropy as humans.”
I do, wonder though. . .what do you mean by social engineering? I don’t see how that’s a party issue. I would say ALEC has its own brand of social engineering as well. So, to say that means nothing in my mind. It’s kind of a cliche to paint progressives in that light, yes?
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right after it cures the common cold
precisely
The Common Core is no cure. It is itself a disease.
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Duncan and Obama are clearly a part of this problem and they know it. Rationalize and deflect all they want but their policies have contributed to this situation.
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Yep. Apparently they don’t care that the reason crackpot economist Milton Friedman came up with vouchers in the first place was to find a way to circumvent Brown v. Board of Education. Charter schools, which Friedman supported near the end of his ignominious life, also are means to this end.
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I was at the EWA luncheon to hear Arne Duncan, as he said “I am a huge supporter of integration. But I don’t think you can force it.” I guess he would have disagreed with President Eisenhower, who sent troops to Little Rock to enforce desegregation.
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He doesn’t know what he thinks, I would say.
“I don’t think you can force it” just sounds good to winner-take-all-and-the-rest-get-the-Common-Core type mindsets, yes?
He’s saying societies are crap shoots. It’s a way to get yourself off the hook if you dress up as a leader every day and get paid for being one, but refuse to look at what the issues in your society are. He’s saying we’re ants.
The one thing I did like about Bill Clinton was that he would always calmly define a problem and then say how we were going to handle it. He didn’t necessarily say his way was the right way or the only way, but he spelled out the steps his leadership was going to guide us through. And even though I don’t like the results of some of what he did, I LOVE his leadership style.
I see none of that in educational policy that is public. I see reformists doing it, albeit they are not up front about what they are doing about the problems they have spelled out. But until we spell out exactly what the problems are, and then calmly say “here’s how we’re going to proceed as of right now,” it will continue to be this frustrating mumble jumble of covert actions covering wishful thinking denial about where our real issues are regarding public education in U.S. (And I mean from politicians. . .I know Dr. Ravitch and other scholars have laid things out pretty clearly, but we need a policy maker and leader to be on board with that style of thinking).
Arne Duncan has been like a day at the Improvs with novice actors.
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Thanks for this stunning summary of the same reasoning used by Governor George Wallace: “Segregation now, segregation forever.”
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Right, if Eisenhower were president today, he would totally be sending the national guard to PS 321 in Park Slope.
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Are you being facetious?
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Guilty!
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TAGO!
(did I do that right?)
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I confess I haven’t gotten around to figuring out what that means.
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That’s A Good One!
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Flerp,
TAGO is like a high five on this blog.
It was started by Senor Swacker when I chided him for not being savvy on acronyms (so prevalent in K-12 ed, to the point of ridiculous).
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Tim–
the first time Duane used TAGO I went to two different Spanish interpreters in my building to find out what it meant in Spanish. I was just sure it was in Spanish, but I wasn’t going to ask on the blog.
Silly me. (Not sure I ever even told Duane that).
Anyway, “that’s a good one” is the best word assignment to it I’ve seen so far.
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Joanna,
No, you hadn’t mentioned about going to the Spanish teachers. Not a bad idea, considering.
You going to the Spanish teachers reminds me of when I went to our math teachers to ask what a “math sentence” was. I first saw that term on a SAT9 test that I had to proctor, and yes I did read the whole test and it was horrendous, so many errors in so many ways. And yes, my thought was confirmed: Math sentence = math equation.
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Where would you send in the troops, Mr. Cody? That was quite a different time.
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I’m not sure if you understood Mr. Cody’s point, Joe Nathan.
However, those of us who know about your long and dubious personal history of “charter hustling” and back room deals, know that if YOU, Joe, had the power to command federal troops—God Forbid!—you wouldn’t hesitate to use your control of that militarized force, like any other Banana Republic dictator, as a means of intimidating your opponents and steering public funds into the private accounts of you and your backers.
Isn’t that right, Joe?
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PSP,
I have been reading this blog for a little over two years and remember some details about Joe Nathan’s background. I know that he taught in a traditional urban public school for over a decade, that his spouse just retired after teaching in a traditional urban public schools for more than three decades, that he sent all his children to traditional urban public schools, that he was heavily involved in the state PTA, and he consults with a variety of different types of schools, but I am unfamiliar with his history of back room deals. Could you explain more?
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What exactly are you accusing Joe of having done? Out with it.
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With rare exceptions, elected officials only act to take on controversial issues when they are pressured to do so. There is financial pressure from those who make large campaign contributions and then there is citizen pressure. It we expect the US Department of Education to act forcefully to not just prohibit segregation, but to also vigorously promote integration we need to generate significant pressure.
I think that there are several leverage points. First, many Americans have a moral commitment to equity. Given the historical and structural roots of inequity and current geographic racial and socio-economic isolation it is inconceivable that we can achieve educational equity any way but through integrated school with integrated classrooms. However, that argument is insufficient. We live in a world increasingly characterized by interaction across difference. Diversity is an unavoidable condition of modern society, globalization and shifting demographics– in the US in particular. An argument only couched in equity terms misses an important goal: We are a healthier and more productive society when we learn how to work, share and interact across difference. So, on the education front, white children should sit next to African-American and Latino children, and the wealthier with kids with peers in a different SES class position, not just because there is no other conceivable way to achieve equity in an inequitable society, but because there is no other conceivable way to learn to live well in the society they will enter as adults.
So, the case for integration must be made on economic, social and moral grounds. The struggle for integration can’t be successful if it is understood as something those with privilege do for those without.
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Arthur Camins, there is another reason to tackle tough issues like integration: that is leadership and vision. It was far more difficult to exert leadership in the LBJ administration, but leaders like Doc Howe and Frank Keppel did it.
Duncan shows no leadership or vision.
Worse, he is a cheerleader for highly segregated charters, demonstrating to the public that in his eyes, it doesn’t matter if schools are 100% black.
To Howe and Keppel, it would have mattered.
They saw a moral imperative. Duncan does not.
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well said, Diane. And thank you.
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Don’t put marketing before the horse. The first, most difficult, and most important question is, what are the specific policies that you would propose to make make society and schools more integrated? Once you have the answer to that question, then worry about how you’re going to sell it.
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Ask parents to:
consider return on investment for seeking out schools void of students different from them and vice versa.
Are people TRULY bothered by racially segregated schools, or do we just know it shouldn’t be like that?
When I read the autobiography by Strom Thurmond’s black daughter, she said he would repeatedly ask her why in the world blacks would even want to go to school with whites, and her answer was just that they wanted that option.
So how do you take the notion of “that option” without going all the way to school choice?
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I can’t believe sixty years later we are even arguing this.
This is how far this country has slipped in its political dialogue.
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I think we’ve been in a holding pattern filled with Viet Nam, divorces, new drugs, new explorations of open sexuality, and that really, the only places where there was integration was in the public schools and it ended there, typically, at graduation.
So. . .we have not slipped. We just really never were as far along as we might have hoped.
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Actually we have slipped a long, long, long way over the past 30 years. It’s all because of an insane economic ideology.
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That “heavy hammer” is only for the public schools—not the private sector charter schools that quickly get rid of difficult to teach at-risk minority children who live in poverty and send them back to the public schools the charters are stealing tax money from—the same public schools that are seeing their funds slashed in many of the states while Charters are demanding more money after promising they could teach the kids for less.
Well, the Charters do pay their teachers less, but then pay their CEO’s about five times more than the average public school superintendent. And it must save money not to have to deal with those pesky democratically elected school boards that hold monthly meetings open to everyone saving on the electric bill because the lights are out that were once on.
It has been made crystal clear by the actions of the Department of Education under Obama that the law is only for the public schools and the public schools must be hammered often to remind them they are failing and full of incompetent teachers who can’t achieve the impossible goal of 100% of 17/18 year old to be college or career ready since 2009 when Race to the Top became the vise that will squeeze all the blood out of public education.
For instance, that’s what the Common Core Standardized testing was for: a heavy hammer to bash in the skulls of public school teachers while ignoring everything that’s going on in the private-sector Charters allowing fraud to run rampant costing tax payers hundreds of millions and maybe even billions of dollars.
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You captured that beautifully. I am a public school teacher with my skull bashed in.
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Just waiting for the other shoe to drop …
(It’s always about the shoes, you know …)
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Ah, yes. It is.
Clearly you have a woman in your life. But I guess men like shoes too, huh?
I think it’s all about hair. Racial discrimination boils down to hair. Who has what kind of hair.
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You need to meet my husband, Joanna. If we had the money, he’d have more shoes than Imelda Marcos.
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That’s funny.
The other day my husband said he was going to go out to the garage and sort through his old golf shoes and get rid of some. Then he came in and said, “all those golf shoes are yours!” Hah! I’ve got him on dress shoes AND sports shoes. (And I don’t even golf all that much).
Shoes.
And hair. Hair matters. To everyone.
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The other shoe will no doubt be cobbled together in the following fashion —
Oh Look❢ A Problem❢ Oh My❢ Oh My❢ What Oh What Shall We Do?
More Charters❢ More Tests❢ More Vouchers❢ That’ll Fix It❢
But on the subject of shoes and waxing eloquent, see also:
These are the times that try men’s soles
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Assuming that Obama and Biden are not opposed to putting their children and grandchildren into public schools, what type of schools would they allow their children to attend with more people of different races and poorer people?
Probably adequately to well resourced schools with good facilities. It’s not that complicated. Most people will good naturedly desegregate if given a fair opportunity.
Underfunded education combined with free market choice and competition will drive segregation by race and economic level. No mystery there.
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Perhaps you’ve all seen this but it’s a great read on discrimination in housing and lending, among other things. The story of discriminatory lending practices in Chicago is wonderful for an explanation of how that one practice in one place ripples out and affects everything else:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/the-case-for-reparations-an-intellectual-autopsy/371125/
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And that’s where is rests. . .lending practices. Because I have learned today that restrictive covenants based on race ended in the 1970s.
So yeah. . .bankers have told me about the four Cs (collateral, capacity, character, capital)—so if restrictive covenants at one time stated that “negroes and other persons of questionable character” couldn’t live somewhere, and the Supreme Court established that such a rule was null and void, the bankers still looked at being black, perhaps, as questionable in their checklist.
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in short: money.
(Cue the Pink Floyd please).
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Right, that’s where I ended up too, it’s always money. But even that rippled. Because they needed to purchase property, like everyone else. So that one state + private sector act of discrimination threw them into what was an unregulated, predatory secondary lending system and they lost decade after decade of accrued wealth in those neighborhoods and within those families.
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Here ya go Joanna:
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Thank you Duane.
TAGO
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I have long thought reparations should be paid. Bill Moyers is addressing this matter and interviewing the author this weekend, starting tonight! http://billmoyers.com/
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We know that Duncan is deaf to the research on the efficacy of charter schools, curriculum standards, standardized testing and teacher evaluation via VAM. Second, we know (see the research by Mercedes Schneider) on the interlocking, over lapping directorate among charter school entrepreneurs, developers and purveyors of standardized tests and curriculum standards and educational foundations.
The question of educational vision, of commitment to equity and equal educational opportunity in education have been supplanted by the needs of the education power elite to maintain and nurture a stratified, tiered education system, to generate an education model whereby students are viewed as workers in training for future slots in the 21st century economy.
How to poor whites and minority youth get low level jobs? You create a system that ensures such placements. This is what has been sought and wrought by the education reformers.
Look around and you will see what happened to the vision of educational equity and equality envisioned by Brown and its progeny. One does not have to look further than the Secretary of Education.
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“What have they done about the proliferation of all-black vouchers?”
Right, clearly the Administration isn’t doing enough to block black parents from certain schoolhouse doors.
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“What have they done in Chicago and Néw York City, both highly segregated urban school districts.”
What should they do?
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A very good question.
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They should make it hip to be bi-racial.
That’s the only way forward.
Actually, some of that is already going on in marketing efforts, etc. (children’s clothing with a worldly attitude, modeled on bi-racial children).
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How does one make anything hip? The “all powerful” Bill Gates must know the secret, I can probably hear about it on my zunecast.
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You major in marketing at Harvard.
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There are no undergraduate business degrees at Harvard.
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or you get your MBA there.
For example, this company:
http://www.teacollection.com/
Kind of like Benetton in the 1980s.
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that’s what I meant. . .
of course I know there are not business degrees in undergrad, I was typing too fast.
And at those where they are, majors are not eligible for Phi Beta Kappa (at least that’s how it is at William and Mary).
Interestingly, my undergrad had no classes in education either (nor business).
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And what have they done about historically black colleges and universities?
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Many smart minority men avoid them because they are typically dominated by women.
I have friends who say their male minority peers took much longer to graduate, if at all, from the black colleges and universities. Also, I know several white people who attended black schools on minority scholarships. More of that, perhaps.
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What should the Federal government do to force these changes? One first step would be to deny federal funding to any institution that enrolls too high a proportion of African American students. Would you be in favor of that?
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No. I’m not sure that they should force those changes.
If the private colleges recognize the marketing value in balanced numbers, it seems universities would want to get on board to keep up. So really, it starts with the private colleges, again. . .making it hip.
Maybe they could have a contest for federal money if the college or university agreed to sign on to a common curriculum and rate their instructors and professors by scores. (ha ha)
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Cutting of federal funding to HBCUs would be the very strongest statement the federal government could make that having too high an enrollment of African Americans at your college or university will not be tolerated.
Some historically black colleges and universities are now majority white. I believe that this is viewed with concern by some in the African American community.
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When there is no longer a need for a racial delineation on paper (that is, when we are mixed up like a melting pot would lead to), then the problems will go away, perhaps.
When there is no longer a need for racial delineation in our minds, then maybe we will be where our current administration wishes we were. But the fact is, MOST people are not there. I witness racial bias every day in NC. Sometimes, people don’t even know they do it (I think). Across the board. Everybody makes fun of everybody, I imagine, behind closed doors. But decisions are still being made to make sure whitey gets the long end of the stick (I’ve seen it in my own building). They just are. I see it all the time. And that’s why Arne’s policies are questionable to the goals of integrated schools. If integrated schools are no longer a goal, then there is no issue. But I don’t think Americans agree that it is no longer a goal.
Maybe that’s the question: is it a goal to have racially balanced schools in our country?
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The post asks the Federal Government to do something. I have made a suggestion that 1) is feasible for the Federal Government to do, and 2) directly impacts segregated schools. What alternative actions would you suggest the Federal Government take?
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Well, I think the gist of the post is that the Federal government needs to do LESS of something, not more of something else (less promoting charters at the expense of public schools, for example). The question is posed about why don’t they admit they haven’t been forceful or effective? But they have been forceful and effective at things other than the integration goal, so my answer would be they should quit doing those things if integration is a goal. Then maybe we could figure out what they should do instead.
Clearly they don’t see integration as a civil rights issue anymore. At least I don’t see how they could by what they’ve done in the name of today’s “civil rights issue.”
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Joanna,
The original post specifically chastises the administration for not having done anything “about the proliferation of all-black vouchers”. The highly segregated schools most easily influenced by Federal Government policy are the HBCUs, and if you don’t think the Federal Government should shut them down by denying them funding, you might want to reconsider your objection to charter schools that enroll primarily African American students.
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TE: I am on the fence about some charters.
Please don’t poke at me by putting words in my mouth.
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I meant the “you” to mean a generic person thinking about the objections Dr. Ravitch has to allowing African American students to choose schools that already have mostly African American students.
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TE, I oppose racial segregation. I gather you do not. You must be very Pleased with latest data showing rise of segregation to highest point in decades
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Would you prevent any Pell grants going to students at HBCUs? Not allow any federal fund to go to Howard University?
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No, TE. Those are universities.
I don’t want to return to the pre-Brown days of the early 50s. I was there. It is a disgrace to society that we stopped caring about promoting equality.
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They are segregated schools using your definition of the term. Why do you give them a free pass?
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Should universities be allowed to be segregated because of admission policies? Do they get a free pass there too?
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A 2010 US Civil rights Commission Report found that athough HBCU students tend to have lower SAT scores and high-school grades than their African-American counterparts at historically white institutions,
* HBCU’s produce 40 percent of black science and engineering degrees with only 20 percent of black enrollment.
* Of the top 21 undergraduate producers of African-American science Ph.D.s, 17 were HBCU’s. Many of those students would have been considered underprepared by majority institutions.
Are you serious about denying federal funds to HBCU’s with a high percentage of African American students?
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HBCU? Help me, I’m AI!
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Sorry, Duane, Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCU)
Here’s a link to to a summary of the 2010 report
http://chronicle.com/blogs/innovations/the-educational-effectiveness-of-hbcus/28040
You and others may be interested in the fact that the effectiveness cited is NOT measured in terms of test scores but in other kinds of accomplishments. In fact, entering student test scores at the HBCU’s are lower than those at HWI (Historically white Institutions).
But African American students at the HBCU’s – which these students choose have accomplished quite a lot, as you will see from the link. –
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I am not advocating for this policy, just throwing it out there. If folks think it is fine to have the Federal Government pay students to go to the highly segregated schools, fine for the federal government to directly pay these highly segregated schools, perhaps they should think a little harder about their position that other schools with similarly high levels of segregation should be closed.
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As noted in earlier comments, and in something coming out soon, the first African American elected to the St. Paul, Mn City Council, and former Mn Human Rights Commissioner thinks there is quite a difference between
a. Being forced to attend an inferior school miles from home because of his skin color (which did happen to him)
b. Being allowed to select among a variety of schools, some of which are racially diverse, some of which are not.
Yet the same word is used to describe both situations.
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Mr. In-need-of-speech-therapy is his usual moronic self.
Hollywood is doing a sequel to “Dumb and Dumber”. . . . . It’s starring Mr. Duncan, and the catchy title has been confirmed:
“Dumb, Dumber, Dumbest, and Duncan”.
Arne Duncan’s realized vision for charter schools just happens to coincide with pooling together poor urban children of color for the most part.
Why let poverty get in the way of your evil career when you can solve everything with polarizing, segregating charter schools? Duh. A dunce as stupid as Mr. Duncan could have figured that one out.
And it’s such an easy formula:
Step 1: Defund your public neighborhood schools. You’ll need the help of Obama, the Wlatons, Bill Gates, ALEC, the World Bank, and the National Governor’s Assoication to accomplish this, but what the hell: these are the same people who would sell their mothers into slavery for a dollar on Mother’s Day if the oppotunity came about.
Step 2: Partner up all levels of government with privatizers to spend millions of dollars on ad campaigns blaming teachers and principals, demonizing and criminalizing them for all the woes of children’s poverty.
Step 3: Take the tax savings from all the loopholes the hedge fund managers and corporations acculumate, thanks to their fornication with government, and let them villainthropize their money by giving generously to charter schools.
Step 4: Let the well funded charters emphasize test prep so that they outperform public schools on standardized tests by offering all sorts of wonderful wrap-around services.
Step 5: Watch parents advocate for their children to go to charters, since their heinous public schools, whose budget by now have collapsed because there’s no money from the tax base any more thanks to defunding, have failed them.
Step 6: Repeat steps 1 through 5, and throw in a goofy movie with Blond Brainless Bombshell Cameron Diaz and non-talented vapid Justin Timberlake, and voila: You’ve got the public believing in the whole premise of “Bad Teacher” and stereotyping every public school teacher that dared to educate a child.
Mr. Duncan, you’re actually kinda smart in a really dumb and reprehensible way.
How perfect you are for your position!
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Actually, in Step 3, interest from student loans is going to Arne to spend as he chooses.
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Thank you for that correction . . . . You’re rght.
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Correction:
“Step 3: Take the tax savings from all the loopholes the hedge fund managers and corporations acculumate, thanks to their fornication with government, and let these people villainthropize such savings by giving generously to charter schools.”
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The answer is more charter schools. Whatever the question, that’s the answer.
Also, public schools should be exactly like charter schools, which of course is another way of saying “more charter schools” – see: answer number one.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deborah-mcgriff-/charter-schools-are-deliv_b_5379845.html
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Deborah McGriff, former Deputy Supt in Milwaukee, former Detroit Public Schools Supt, knows that what American youngsters need is much more than more charters.
Yes, we do need more excellent early childhood programs. Yes, we do need great health care for all families. Lots to do outside school buildings. Also lots to do inside public schools.
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JoeNathan, is this the same Deborah McGriff who is a partner at pro-privatization NewSchools Venture Fund and chair of the National Alliance of Public Charter Schools?
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Yes, Deborah McGriff the same person who has a long, distinguished record in district public schools…Cambridge, Mass, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and Detroit Michigan. She wrote a column in Huffington Post that someone commented.
I responded, noting that Deborah and many others working with charters believe there are a variety of changes needed, not just more charters.
Dr. McGriff’s lengthy and award winning work in urban district public schools suggests that she has some insight into what will help urban youngsters and families.
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Deborah McGriff and her husband Howard Fuller worked in district schools many years ago. Now they work tirelessly for charters, vouchers, and privatization of public education. You are relentless, Joe. I give you credit for that.
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Depends on who gave the award.
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“The Miami-Dade Board of County Commissioners on Thursday approved a massive charter school in southwest Miami-Dade, paving the way for what could potentially be the largest charter school in Florida.
The school will be run by Academica, Florida’s largest charter school management company.”
Here’s Academica:
“Academica’s achievements have been profitable. The South Miami company receives more than $9 million a year in management fees just from its South Florida charter schools — fees that ultimately come from public tax dollars.
But the Zuluetas’ greatest financial success is largely unseen: Through more than two dozen other companies, the Zuluetas control more than $115 million in South Florida real estate — all exempt from property taxes as public schools — and act as landlords for many of Academica’s signature schools, records show.
These companies collected about $19 million in lease payments last year from charter schools — with nine schools paying rents exceeding 20 percent of their revenue, records show.”
One of you edu-whizzes needs to do an analysis of for-profit charters compared to non-profit charters, not based on “schools” but based on seats. Would a majority of charter SEATS be at for-profits? I think that’s a possibility.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/13/2545377/academica-florida-richest-charter.html#storylink=cpy
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That is odd because LAUSD was singled out for a slap on the wrist by Duncan because of its unchecked discrimination in 2012. The issue goes back decades and remains a problem according to USA DOE DEPT OF CIVIL RIGHTS. It has charged LAUSD with inadequately accommodating EL and discrimination agains poor children of color across the board. If one studies the CA state education site, it becomes clear that the district has only gotten worse in its practices with Deasy at the helm.
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And here I thought you were making a comment about the absolute emptiness of anything that Arne Duncan would have to say on this subject!
A quick and complete and reasonably painless recovery to you, Diane.
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OF course he does. We talked about his at the #WHsocial. I told him that poverty is real and that instead of the mantra ” Poverty is no excuse for student failure ” we need to be aware of “HOW poverty impacts the lives of our children. ” I mean- if students are worried about where they will sleep at night or where their next meal is coming from then Common Core and Standardized Testing isn’t really high on the list of priorities for a student.
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http://norinrad10.wordpress.com/2014/05/23/more-on-the-tennessee-tcap-fiasco/
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Diane- please read the above article on what is going on in TN regarding TCraP. Thank you – and TN BATs love you and hope you are recovering and doing well. Loved the pic of you in the BATs shirt.
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The Tucson Unified School District has been under a desegregation order for a couple of decades now ( I think it’s been that long, I’m not sure) Many smaller districts that surround it are no more racially diverse, but lawsuits take on a life of their own. TUSD has tried to improve integration through the use of magnet schools. The court wants the district to improve it’s enrollment of Anglos in traditionally Hispanic areas, but they haven’t been too successful. There has been a massive “White Flight” to charter schools;that’s parental choice.
I know this is not politically correct, but from my observation and reading, charters are creating more cultural than racial segregation. TUSD does not have a very good reputation here, both for academics and student safety. That’s because charter schools can get rid of students with discipline problems and public schools can’t. As a parent of a bright son, I can understand why families would want their children to be educated with others who want to learn. My son attended a traditionally-zoned, public school. But we live in a wealthier area and his large high school offered a great honors and AP program. He was able to “segregate” himself from the students in that school who didn’t want to learn. One time he was placed in a regular class instead of the honors one. He got a transfer as soon as he could. “Mom” he told me, “All that teacher does is yell”. I responded that he wasn’t used to yelling teachers because he was usually in classes where no one “needed to be yelled at”.
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You are right. For thirty years, I taught in public schools (in one district) with poverty rates above 70% in a community that had and still has a heavy street gang presence. The yelling your son refers to is probably the daily struggle to maintain a classroom environment so the few students who actually cooperate may learn.
I seldom yelled. I preferred using softer tough love tactics that worked better for me but the struggle never ends. A single day without resistance to everything educational was rare and welcomed.
In fact—as politically incorrect as this may be even here—my wife and I didn’t want to live in the community that the schools I taught in served and we didn’t want our daughter in the same classrooms with the average kid I taught, because the struggle between the teachers and the kids who resisted (and there were too many kids resisting) learning robbed time from the kids who were there to learn and in every class I taught there were always kids willing to cooperate and pay attention but the kids that weren’t there to cooperate made the job of teaching extremely difficult and challenging.
Teachers who work in areas with high rates of poverty need support they aren’t getting. Every class with high rates of poverty above, let’s say, 50%, should include a CPO (campus police officer) to help maintain the learning environment but the money isn’t there. Instead, those teachers who work in almost impossible situations are attacked by both sides. People who support public education will even advise they they aren’t using the proper tactics to control the classrooms without any understanding of the challenges faced.
There isn’t a country in the world that successfully teaches children who live in poverty. Even U.S. schools have more success than Finland when it comes to teaching kids who come from poverty. In fact, public school in the U.S. have more success than any country on the planet when it comes to teaching kids who come from poverty but those rates of success are ignored by everyone even the teachers because they don’t know they are doing a better job that every other country on the planet when it comes to teaching kids in poverty. Does that mean we are successful with all of the children who live in poverty? No, we aren’t but we are more successful than any other country because when we compared schools around the world with similar poverty rates, the US schools almost always perform better with that segment of the student population.
Poverty is the problem. Poverty is the challenge. And the only method that has been proven to work is Early Childhood Education starting as early as birth through diet and educating parents to be better parents when it comes to their children learning to enjoy learning and reading. But even with this knowledge, the Obama administrator made improving childhood education last on his agenda to improve the so-called failing public schools. Obama’s goals to improve early childhood education programs were put on the back burner for implementation in 2015 but only after Congress approves the $75 billion that is proposed for the 10 year program. Do you think if the GOP grabs the majority in both houses of Congress, that they will approve any program the Obama administration asks for?
Instead of Race to the Top or Common Core Standards, if Obama really wanted to improve the education of the 16+ million children living in poverty in the Untied States, he should have started with improving childhood education and called it Common Core Early Childhood Education to implement a standardized, monitored for quality program across the country—without bubble tests—-that starts at birth and targets every child who lives in poverty or is identified to live in a dysfunctional home environment. Instead, Obama focused on demanding the impossible of teachers without the support to achieve the goals that Washington legislated—goals that no country on earth has ever achieved with children in history.
I want to repeat this: no country on the planet has ever educated 100% of its 17/18 year olds to be college and/or career ready. Not one. Ever. Even Finland fails with some of its children who live in poverty. And China fails big time regardless of the fact that 15-year old Chinese students in (only) Shanghai ranked #1 on the PISA test while the children of the other 1.3+ billion were not represented on the PISA because they didn’t take it.
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Should we allow ” the few students who actually cooperate may learn” to group together in schools with their fellow cooperators or should we leave them in schools where they are the exception rather than the rule?
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I don’t think that’s the right question or thinking. Instead, we should be asking what could be done to deal with the challenges of poverty that cause students who do not cooperate, students who are programed from their out-of-school environment to resist education and become more intrenched and angry in their resistance as the years go by.
Poverty is a cancer that, with support from the current oligarch controlled political climate in the US, will slowly grow and spread until it is the source that undermines the people’s democracy leading to people who make suggestions like you just suggested but instead demand that the government use the military to control those horrible pests trapped in poverty.
The only way to break the cycle of poverty is through early childhood education programs and unlike NCLB, Race to the Top and Common Core, there’s lots of evidence to support early childhood education. Even the Obama administration admits as much with their 2015 proposal to submit a request to Congress to fund a 10 year, $75 billion dollar early childhood education program.
But why did the Obama administration decide to wait until he was almost out of the White House to pursue this agenda when it should have been introduced his first 100 days in office when he had a Democratic majority in both hoses guaranteeing success? The odds say that waiting until 2015 all but guarantee the issue will die in a Congress that is either controlled by a GOP majority or split between the two major parties.
In September 2012, Education Week reported: “The United States lags behind most of the world’s leading economies when it comes to providing early-childhood-education opportunities, despite improvements in recent years, a study by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development shows.
“According to the report released last week by the Paris-based OECD, the United States ranks 28th out of 38 countries for the share of 4-year-olds enrolled in pre-primary education programs, at 69 percent. That’s compared with more than 95 percent enrollment rates in France, the Netherlands, Spain, and Mexico, which lead the world in early-childhood participation rates for 4-year-olds. Ireland, Poland, Finland, and Brazil are among the countries that trail the United States.”
What I read in your comment is a suggestion that we should ignore poverty and find ways to removed cooperative children from classrooms—that have high poverty rates—so those children end up in schools without the problem children.
That thinking is the same as sweeping the dirt under the rug.
Childhood poverty is an epidemic in the United States. Out of 35 developed countries, the US ranks #34th for childhood poverty compared to Finland that’s ranked first with the lowest poverty rate at less than 5%—It is arguable that the reason Finland ranks so highly on the PISA test is becasue of that low poverty rate.
Instead of harping on the average PISA rankings, why are the fake ed reformers NOT focusing on the fact that the US ranks 28th out of 38 countries in early childhood education in addition to ranking 34 out of 35 when it comes to poverty rates.
What comes first, the chicken or the egg?
What comes first, poverty or the PISA ranking?
I’m convinced that the high poverty rate in the US has a big influence on the average US ranking on the PISA test.
If we don’t count the U.S. children who live in poverty, where does the US rank in the PISA averages when compared to similar developed countries? The US ranks number one even above Finland.
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How many of those few students who want to learn are you willing to sacrifice while society works on the solution to the bigger problem?
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Sorry, that thinking doesn’t hold water. It leaks. I taught in those schools for thirty years, and the kids who wanted to learn, learned even with those dysfunctional kids in the classroom. I’ve witnessed it. You can read about it when my “Crazy is Normal” memoir comes out. But I suggest you read every page to the end to witness exactly how many made it when the teacher practices what I call tough love in the classroom.
And most of the teachers I worked with were tough love teachers. The math teacher who taught next to my room was a Vietnamese immigrant women who weighed less than 100 pounds but the gang bangers feared her, and she had great success with the students who did what she told them to do. Even the most difficult kids respected her. I wonder if she’s still there. She was much younger than I was.
The reason I wouldn’t want to live in that community was because of the violence caused by the street gangs. One of the teachers at my high school lived in that community to be close to work and she told us about the bullet hoes in her garage door and the flat tires on her car parked in the driveway. Ms. Olson was our department chair and she taught for 40+ years before she retired, sold the hose and moved. She was one tough teacher.
What you suggest means we ignore the fact that there are, according to the FBI, 33,000 street gangs with more than a million members in the US mostly located in areas of poverty responsible for almost half the violent crime in the U.S.
What do you suggest we do? Move the families of children who cooperate in school out of those poverty communities into private sector Charter schools mired in fraud that often perform worse than the average public school; then wall those who remain inside and man the walls with heavily armed US Marines?
There was a film that came our recently with that theme where they crammed all the people who lived in poverty and walled them in with a 30 foot high wall manned by the military. Inside, the gangs ruled through terror and the threat of death. So, you want to condemn more than 45 million Americans to that fate?
Kids with parents who value and support education learn in almost any classroom environment. I don’t’ know how they managed but they did and off they went, in much smaller numbers (probably because so many kids don’t try), to college and careers where they earned more money on average than the kids who refused to learn.
In every class I taught, I had kids who worked and went to college. In every class. In fact, I knew of one kid who was offered scholarships from USC, MIT, Stanford and he lived in that barrio but he had very supportive parents and he attended the same classes filled with the gang bangers who recited what the teachers offered. He learned. We also played a lot of chess at lunch. He was an worthy adversary in chess.
If we are to remain a people’s democracy, then the only way to achieve that is through a well thought out and planned national, early childhood education program that targets the most at risk-kids and most of those children live in poverty—16+ million—-not ignore an d isolate them as you seem to be suggesting.
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No doubt you know better then I that a couple of students who want to learn are just as well off in a classroom where the teacher has to yell daily to maintain order as they would be in a classroom filed with students that want to learn.
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Again, your comment says you don’t support early childhood education as a way to break the cycle of poverty. Instead, it seems you support rewarding the few students who live in poverty but are successful in school because of strong, supportive parents and punish the children who were born into dysfunctional famlies but who all live in an area mired in poverty.
I think that your way of thinking would punish children because of who their parents were.
I don’t support your idea of moving the good students from better homes from those students who come from dysfunctional homes because it would be the better students from better homes in the same community who would set the example and lead the way.
With the proper support, teachers would be able to focus more on teaching and the better students in schools with high rates of poverty would become the roll models for the other students who have no roll models in their homes or life.
I suggest you go see this very powerful film based on a real woman and real story to gain a better understanding of why your thinking is a step back to the era of slavery when we punished people for the color of their skin and treated them worse than we treat animals.
The film is called “Belle”. It’s based on a true story of an illegitimate mixed race daughter of a Royal Navy Admiral raised by her aristocratic great-uncle set in the UK about the time of the American revolution in the colonies.
But instead of color, what you propose would condemn children based on poverty. Is this any different than discrimination against people of color?
Poverty is not restricted to minorities. More than 10% of 200+ million whites live in poverty and with more than 45 million Americans living in poverty that means almost half are white. In fact, 13% of children living in poverty are white; 39% black, 34% Hispanic, 13% Asian; 30% Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander and 36% American Indian/Alaska Native.
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How does allowing some students to get into classrooms where more effective teaching can be done a punishment to the students who don’t want to cooperate? If those students who want to lead the way in the dysfunctional classroom, they are certainly free to do so. I think holding those students hostage is morally questionable.
I have no idea why you are discussing slavery here.
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More effective teaching, you say!
Wrong. Credentialed, career teachers are professionals and they receive the same training/education and that training/education (at last in California) never ends.
I think that some of the most dedicated, toughest and best teachers may be found in schools with high poverty rates. Those who can’t take the stress that this environment offers leaves in the first five years, but the same environment doesn’t stress out the students to the same degree because they were born into that community and lived in it for the six years leading up to kindergarten. Many of the children from dysfunctional homes are their friends and were their playmates as preschool children. They don’t know any other environment because they haven’t had the privilege of being born into a stable family living in a middle class community away from the gangs and poverty. Poverty is their world.
I think it is arguable that teachers in schools where the students are easier to teach probably aren’t challenged to become better teachers.
Teachers’ feelings of job satisfaction and years of experience were statistically significant
predictors of less stress (Konert p144). In a study of elementary school teachers, lack of social support, classroom climate, work overload and lack of participation in decision-making were identified as significantly related to teacher burnout. This study also compared year-round and traditional school calendars and found no differential effects on teacher burnout (Walker 1998). Differential effects are related to school size; stress appears to be more prevalent in larger school systems than in smaller ones (Green-Reese et al.1991)
In comparing stress on rural and urban teachers it was found that rural teachers perceive
too much parental contact as a source of stress while urban teachers regard the lack of
parental involvement as stressful. The major difference between the groups was that rural
teachers feel greater stress from time demands and the conditions of work, while urban
teachers attributed greater stress to student discipline and behavior problems (Abel and Sewell 1999). In 1995 the Metropolitan Life Survey of 1,011 teachers examined changes in the views and perceptions of teachers from a previous, similar survey conducted in 1984. In this ten-year period rural teachers perceived improvements in their work environments and expressed positive views regarding their professional recognition and social support while urban teachers perceived the opposite. Urban teachers perceptions were that their working conditions had deteriorated. They also expressed less positive views regarding their professional recognition and more negative views of their school systems’ policies, including curricula and academic standards (Leitman et al.1995).
Click to access teacher%20burnout%20in%20black%20and%20white.pdf
The previous link leads to a detailed report that explains why teachers burn out and leave teaching. Worth reading. Nothing in that report indicates that teachers are better or worse than their peers in settings with less or no poverty. Both settings have stress factors.
Why am I bringing up slavery? Because creating two school system supports the same thinking that one culture is better than another. If the US creates two school systems, we will create a culture of segregation and discriminating between those who do not live in poverty and those that do.
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What is morally right as an individual choice and what is moral right a government policy are two different questions. To the extent that the society restricts the life chances of people without wealth it pushes everyone to only be out for themselves.
See: Huffington Post: Why God Bless the Child That’s Got His Own Is Not a Worthy Education Policy – at: http://www.arthurcamins.com/#sthash.xZNRluq0.dpuf
And: Washington Post: Education Reform and the Corrosion of Community Responsibility – See more at: http://www.arthurcamins.com/#sthash.xZNRluq0.dpuf
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Would you include geographic school admission standards as one of the restrictions on the life chances of people without wealth?
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Perhaps I was unclear. I was speaking of a more effective teaching environment. If those few students who cooperate in learning (your statement not mine) were allowed to go to a school filled with cooperative students, they would learn more. Not allowing them to do that means they will learn less (if only because of increased yelling time).
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And we turn the school that willing and cooperative learners left into a wasteland, a prison without bars and armed guards. That is until the armed guards are needed because there is no social element where cooler heads prevail and turn down the heat.
Remember, the kids who would leave to an inferior charter school that may be riddled with fraud with managers paid four to five times the average public school superintendent also has a strong odds of having less skilled educators (caused by the revolving door of low pay and TFA recruits) grew up with the kids who offer the most problems. They know those kids better than the teachers do.
Instead, support the schools in those communities in such ways that the dysfunctional students are identified early on and not allowed to disrupt the learning envinroment. Usually, the kids who cause the most trouble make up about 5% of any student population and it doesn’t take many to disrupt a classroom—-just one or two.
In addition, there are leaders among the students who cooperate and work to learn, and they offer another roll model for all the students. Remove them and their influence is gone.
Knowing you have cancer and ignoring it will not make it go away.
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So you would force the willing students to stay in the school as a means to improve the education of the unwilling students?
Why assume the cooperative students are going to an inferior charter school? Why not a strong charter school, magnet school, or traditional public school outside of the assigned catchment area. Your argument against them leaving does not hinge on where they go, just that they are gone.
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Without the option of for-profit often inferior private sector Charter Schools there is no choice so they are not being denied anything.
Here’s what I think you are advocating.
That we shouldn’t do all we can to change the learning environment of schools where the rates of poverty are high.
I know it can be done. I’ve seen it happen in the first public school where I taught full time under my first contract in a school that was considered one of the worst and most dangerous in the San Gabriel valley. It was turned around and the solution was so simple—because its what they do in Finland.
The principal turned the running of the school over to teams of teachers and he supported this cooperative approach to management against the wishes and pressure of district administration who wanted to power to approve everything we did. But Ralph ignored the district and the successes that followed allowed him to stay in his job until he had a stroke due to the pressure coming from the district office and administrators who were incapable of trusting teachers to do the job that we did.
Ralph Pagan was the only principal I worked with who ran his school like they do in Finland where he put his trust in the teachers to come up solutions; we did and they worked. Giano Intermediate was so dangerous when Ralph’s experiment started, other schools refused to compete in sporting games on our campus. It took Ralph several years to gain the trust of these other schools that he and his teachers had turned that school around and it was safe.
Instead, it seems you advocate abandoning most children who live in poverty so some Hedge Fund billionaire has an opportunity to increase his fortune on the backs of kids who would have succeeded anyway. You see, the kids who will be left behind will have the most dysfunctional home environments where the parents don’t care where their kids goes to school and will make no effort to move them to a so-called better learning environment.
These children who will have no choice (regardless of that private sector Charter school operates outside of the poverty ridden community) are mostly going to be in single parent households that make up 72% of children who live in poverty.
If you didn’t grow up in that world and never lived in poverty, you have no idea what it’s like. The so called magic wand of school choice will not change the conditions of poverty. The best chance the U.S. has to reduce poverty is through high quality early childhood education programs that start at birth. Those programs must transparent and they must be held accountable for every cent spent to prove every expenditure benefits the education of children and not the profits of, for instance, a Hedge Fund billionaire who work behind an opaque wall and there is no way to know what they are doing until they are closed down for fraud. By then it’s too late for the children.
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I suppose I am advocating that ” we shouldn’t do all we can to change the learning environment of schools where the rates of poverty are high” if you include treating students as a means to this end instead of as ends in themselves. It seems to me that is what you are doing if you force them to go to a school in order to improve other student’s education.
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And you are not advocating discriminating against children who had no say in who their parent/s would be. You are advocating that the already second-worst child poverty rate among 35 developed countries gets worse.
You are supporting choice for kids who live in poverty from stable homes while abandoning the rest to their fates in an environment that will become even more challenging for teachers to succeed.
Only 11% of children who live in poverty come from homes with two parents. The rest come from single parent famlies and often those parents are working more than one minimum wage job to make ends meet so there is often a lack of parental supervision when they get home.
With those students from the 11% that have two parents remain in the local community schools there is a foundation to build stability for the latch key kids who live in poverty and many of the 11% with both parents have the stability at home where the odds are much higher that there’s support for studying and reading at home, and that means those students will graduate from high school anyway and probably be career ready or go to college becasue they have the support that many of the other kids living in poverty with only one parent don’t have. Without that foundation of stability that exists in communities mired in poverty, after school sports programs might collapse because it is often students who have stable home environments who convince friends from unstable home environments to join a team.
You may be aware that I was born into poverty and so were many of my young friends and I was fortunate enough to have both of my parents at home throughout all of my childhood, but I had friends who didn’t and they spent a lot of time hanging out with me or at my house or at the home of another friend who had both parents. In fact, by the time I was fifteen and was working my first part-time job, I was the only one who could afford to buy and drive a car and my friends who spent time with me instead of hanging out with gangs stayed out of trouble and also graduated from high school and found jobs/careers.
By the time I reached high school, my dad stopped drinking and life stabilized becasue he kept a steady job that paid more than poverty wages pulling us into the lower levels of the middle class. Some of my friends weren’t so fortunate but they did have a friend who was and that may have made all the difference to their lives. In fact, one of my friends joined the Marines like I did and also served in Vietnam. His tour ended several months before mine and instead of returning to his abusive father when he was on his thirty day liberty after Vietnam, my parents let him live in my bedroom that month.
So, you go ahead and stick to your thinking that choice is better, but I’ll stick to supporting the public schools that serve communities mired in poverty and continue to demand that they get the support they deserve for all of the children living in poverty and not just the few who are fortunate enough to have a more stable and supportive family.
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I am advocating that students be viewed as ends in themselves, not as the means to educate others. If a student wants to remain in a school where it is difficult to learn in order to improve the conditions for other students, that is commendable. If the state forces those students to stay in the school because the state thinks it is worth the sacrifice of the motivated student’s learning in order to improve the situation for other students, that is morally questionable. A Kantian moral theorist, for example, would call it immoral, though a utilitarian would be fine with it.
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You seem to be stuck with this idea that choice is better—the choice between Hedge Fund Charter and Wall-Mart charter schools. Some choice.
In conclusion, you advocate sending children who are easier to teach and are more willing to do what it takes to learn away from the transparent public schools where every tax dollar is accounted for in schools run by democratically elected school boards that represent the communities where those children live to opaque, profit driven private-sector charter schools—run by distant CEOs who run Hedge Funds and are willing to spend millions to fool the public because of the profits to be made off taxpayers—Charter schools that are subject to failure, fraud, bankruptcy and closure and that are no better and are often worse than the public schools they are replacing, because you think this choice will improve the education of those easier to teach children.
In addition, the average pay of teachers in the Charter schools is lower to start with and lower at the high end leading to a high turnover rate among teachers creating an unstable learning environment with a revolving door policy, while the managers of these schools earn as much as five times the average of public school superintendents across the nation. Also, those charter schools are held to no accountability under NCLB, Race to the
Top or the Common Core Standards, which might be a good thing because those are all flawed programs but … the quality of the teachers is questionable. About a third of private school teachers have masters degrees while more than half of public school teachers have masters in the field they teach in. And the Charter schools don’t even have to run criminal background checks for anyone who applies to be a teacher. I wonder how many of these easy to control kids will end up being sexually molested and then like the Catholic parochial schools, the Hedge Fund Billionaires will do all they can to cover up those crimes because it will be bad for the bottom line, profits.
I suspect the laws that require public school teachers to report even the suspicion of sexual molestation or physical abuse will not apply to these private-sector Charters since it seems no laws that apply to the public school apply to them.
In the end, there’s a very good chance that those most difficult to teach at-risk kids stuck with the public schools and career, dedicated teachers who stick it out for decades until they are teaching the kids of kids they taught will end up with a better education than the kids that left.
I think there’s something wrong with your ability to reason.
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Once again Lloyd your argument that the cooperative and enthusiastic student not be allowed to leave a challenging school does not depend on where the student goes.
Let’s suppose that the student sneaks into a neighboring district and is not prosecuted for the aft of services. Should that student be brought bake for the benefit of those he or she left behind? A utilitarian might well answer yes, that the increase in welfare of those in the original school out ways any loss from sending that student back. A Kantian would answer no, you should not treat the student as a means to improve the education of those that are in the original school. I am more of a Kantian. Which do you choose?
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There’s a problem with your fantasy that a student should be free to attend any school they want anywhere at a whim, and that’s logistics. Districts are not free to let anyone who wants in from anywhere, because districts are limited by funding, staffing and class sizes that are written into contracts and the Ed Code of each state.
The office staff at each school does a lot of work usually over the summer projecting enrollment and instructional needs and then hires, fires and/or moves teachers around as if they are furniture to meet those demands. A drop in enrollment often means closing sections and even dropping electives causing some teachers to be out of a job or to be transferred to another school in the district if there’s an opening in their subject area.
For instance, top rated schools are top rated not because of the quality of the teachers or the buildings but because of the quality of the students, the education levels attained by their own parents and the socioeconomic of those famlies, and those districts have an infrastructure in buildings and the number of buildings limits the enrollment. When school enrollment goes beyond the built in capacity of a school, the district can’t throw up new buildings at a moment’s notice and then tear them down when enrollment drops because a hundred kids decided they didn’t like it there and want to go home. The district has to rent portables that are often horrible to teach out of.
Educating children is not the same as the choice one often makes when they go shopping looking for a pair of shoes and you visit a dozen stores to find the style you want and a price that fits your budget.
A school district is similar to an army and you don’t throw an army together overnight and then move it.
If we were to swap the students between a top rated school with one that is at the bottom but leave the teachers in place, the students would carry the rating with them. The rating of the top school would suddenly drop like a bomb while the low school’s rating would rocket into orbit.
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Again Lloyd you want to avoid the foundational question. Are students a means to an end or an end in themselves?
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And you avoid reality. You keep coming back to choice and ignore poverty and what we should do to deal with what causes poverty.
Let me try another tact to reason with your fantasy that choice is the solution to solving all of our problems in education while ignoring the causes of poverty and doing nothing to address them even though we already have a proven method called early childhood education—something the U.S. doesn’t do a good job at thanks to the fake education reformers who are out there drooling over $700 billion in annual taxes that support PubEd.
Let’s say we turn the public schools into a system where parents and students are allowed to go to any school they want.
We can easily discover how this will work because there is already an educational system in place that does this. It’s called college and college offers two options: private and public.
For instance, using Stanford and Berkeley as an example: Stanford is a private college with an infrastructure in place for about 18,000 students total (7,000 are undergrads) and Berkeley is a state college and both are universities that many students want to attend becasue of the academic standing and reputations due to the quality of students who graduate and go on to great careers.
Stanford excepts about 1,600 freshman each year but has almost 40,000 applicants for those slots, and it isn’t as if Stanford doesn’t have the money to expand. This university unlike public colleges has more than $18 billion in its endowment fund. I’m sure if Stanford wanted to, it could double or triple capacity but for some reason Stanford hasn’t done that so those 40,000 applicants can all go to college where they want. Of course, Stanford would have to more than triple capacity to meet the needs of 40,000 new students annually. And think of the profits. Stanford costs almost $60,000 annually.
Then there’s Berkeley. UC Berkeley has almost 36,000 students but has more than 50,000 who apply each fall and accepts 25.6% of applicants.
These colleges don’t use a lottery system like the Charter schools do. They use a system to select the candidates that have the best chance to succeed in a system with high standards.
Now, let’s step back and start with those five-and six-year olds starting kindergarten. How will the best elementary schools in the nation decide who to accept if a school that only has room for 500 kids suddenly has 50,000 applicants and many of them live out of state?
Do we start building dorms for sixth graders and will tax payers be willing to pay more to fund this expansion? At that age, I’m sure the child doesn’t decide where they want to go so it would be a parent who chooses.
The reality is that kids start falling behind at birth. Even in stable families that aren’t filled with dysfunction, if the child lives in a home where the parents are not readers, that child will start out behind the children who come from homes where a healthy diet and reading was a priority from the start. That brings us back to the beginning where we create a system that punishes the child who has no choice over who their parents are.
The problem is not the teachers of the schools. Schools are nothing but a collection of buildings and all teachers start out with the same training. The challenge is where the students come from and to fix that we return to early childhood education starting at birth to make sure the child has a balanced, nutritious diet in addition to being exposed to books in ways that foster a love of reading at a very early age so those children do not start out behind when they start school at age 5/6.
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While agreeing that better nutrition, health care and strong early childhood education are very valuable, well developed and implemented school choice plans also can be helpful.
There are growing numbers of teacher run public schools around the country – this approach has been endorsed by among others Linda Darling Hammond.
http://www.educationevolving.org/newsletters/teacher-led-schools-idea-hits-national-media
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The key to your comment is “teacher run public schools”, and I agree with you 110%, because that’s how they do it very successfully in Finland and that’s how it worked at the first public school where I started teaching under a full-time contract in 1978-79.
That’s where the Charter school concept had its start—with teachers who ran non-profit schools that were part of a public school district and those teachers cut out administration and had total control over the budget.
Then along came, for instance, the Walton family & Hedge Fund billionaires, who hijacked the concept spending literally billions over several decades to promote the “Charter” name to popularity as the way to solve all challenges in education, but they used the “Charter” name to push their own brand of private sector for-profit education and not the original Charter concept. What did we getting from these fake reformers who seem to all have strings leading to billionaire oligarchs? We now have for-profit schools that are NOT run by teachers and are NOT part of the transparent, democratically run public school sector?
Instead, in these fake Charter schools, the teachers are not in charge, are underpaid and don’t stay long while the manager, who often has little or no real experience in education, is paid a very high salary compared to public school superintendents. We also get a distant CEOs in place of a democratically elected school board and a corporation that skim off profits in addition to millions of tax payer dollars spent on false advertising and PR designed to fool parents into thinking these fake Charter schools are a paradise where every child will be happy to learn leading to success.
It’s all a con and reminds me of a very popular milk commercial that claimed milk had something for every body and was a necessary part of life. To have a better understanding of what deceptive ads are, I suggest you read this piece from the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.
http://pcrm.org/media/news/got-proof-yoplait-nesquik-and-got-milk-commercials
Maybe there should be a “Teachers Committee for Responsible Teaching” run by real teachers endorsed by the Eduction Bloggers Network and Diane Ravitch—that doesn’t include any of the fake TFA, short-term teachers.
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Lloyd – the charter movement started with former district public school teachers creating options outside the district because they were frustrated with the district.
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Time to learn:
You may be surprised to learn that the charter school concept originated with educators who started in the classroom as teachers. Starting in 1974, Albert Shanker (1928 – 1997) and then Ray Budde (1923 – 2005) had the idea for charter schools and helped launch this concept as a way to meet the needs of the most difficult to teach students. Charter schools were not meant to be an option for every student. The concept was an alternative designed to deal with children who were at risk and difficult to teach.
Albert Shanker, who started out as a substitute teacher; then went on to teach math in East Harlem for eight years, became the president of the United Federation of Teachers in 1964. Ray Budde started as a 7th grade English teacher. (Education Evolving.org)
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Twenty years ago this month, in a landmark address to the National Press Club in Washington, American Federation of Teachers President Albert Shanker first proposed the creation of “charter schools”—publicly funded institutions that would be given greater flexibility to experiment with new ways of educating students. At the time, some conservative education reformers opposed the idea, saying we already knew what worked in education. Today, the positions are reversed: Conservatives largely embrace charters, while teachers’ unions are mostly opposed. How did the notion of charter schools evolve over 20 years? …
http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2008/03/26/29kahlenberg_ep.h27.html
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Lloyd, as an urban public school teacher who helped create a district k-12 k-12 option in 1971, and who helped write Mn charter law, I’m very familiar with Shanker and Budde.
Actually, there were folks before Shanker and Budde – like Kenneth Clark. Clark, an African American child psychology who was a lead author of the “doll test” that was cited in the Brown v. Board US Supreme Court decision.
Brown wrote in 1968 Harvard Ed Review that the country needed alternative public schools created outside districts. He urged creation of”“- realistic, aggressive, and viable competitors to the present public school systems…The development of such competitive systems will be attacked by the defenders of the present system as attempts to weaken the present system and thereby weaken if not destroy public education. This type of expected self-serving argument can be briefly and accurately disposed of by asserting and demonstrating that truly effective competition strengthens rather than weakness that which deserves to survive… public education need not be identified with the present system of organization of public schools.”
There are many progressive educators who have helped within district options through the country. They also are many who have helped create and who work in charter public schools throughout he country.
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School choice and competition is an interesting theory that sounds so seductive.
But I think it is safe to say that turning education over to profit driven corporations and greedy CEOs/managers who pay themselves hundreds of thousands of dollars while shortchanging children and teachers proves that competition in the education sector is best kept out of the hands of these greedy fools and left in the hands of professionals—something America has not done for a long time after a long string of failures when too many incompetent administrators, politicians and people like G. W. Bush, Obama, Arne Duncan, Bill Gates or a corporation like Pearson are allowed to much say while ignoring what more than 3.3 million teachers think.
And there’s actually an educational system that works and has worked well for years.
Even though private schools are allowed to exist in Finland, those schools must comply with the same rules the public schools operate under and that means the teachers are trusted with the curriculum without interference or testing, and more than 99% of Finland’s students are in the public schools. In addition, the teachers belong to and are represented by a strong labor union.
There is no Machiavellian testing regime in Finland that would make Mao envious because it’s used to persecute teachers and close public school—except Mao accomplished the same thing without testing. He just put the kids, called the Little Red Guard, who were bullies, in charge and stripped the teachers of any power they had. About two million suicides later mostly among intellectuals and teachers, Mao died and another faction of the CCP grabbed power and ended the insanity.
Who will end the insanity in America’s billionaire, corporate driven cultural revolution?
My wife, who was born in China (and wrote about it in her first memoir, Red Azalea) and lived through the Mao era, has said let this run its course. If enough American’s aren’t willing to step up and stop the madness China went through under Mao, then they deserve what they get. Eventually the pain will be so great, the people will stop it just like it was stopped in China.
There is no difference between Mao and the consortium of Bill Gates, the Hedge Fund billionaires and the rest of this pack of scoundrels.
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I guess every new generation facing corporate “school reform” has to deal with the silliness preached by Joe Nathan. But how much time to waste on that nonsense (and the distortions that flow from it) is another question. Thanks, Diane, for noting the realities of the Fuller family in Milwaukee, to take one example.
In Chicago, “Choice” is a corporate slogan used against the city’s real public school and a union-busting program as well. I’ve been following — as closely as anyone — Chicago’s charter schools since a few years after Joe Nathan and I talked when he drove through town with a trunk load of his book “Free to Teach”. That was probably 25 years ago, when Al Shanker also thought that charter schools could provide some needed innovation and a few “models” for the rest of us.
But more than 100 Chicago charter schools and “campuses” later, history has proven that Nathan’s notion was a lie. Chicago has only a handful of “real” charters (in the sense that they are locally run by a small staff, based on some idea that may once have had merit). By my count, there are six of those. The rest are corporate entities that virtually all are following the same corrupt patterns: pre-selecting kids (and families); forcing out kids who “underperform” (using the “choice” to leave mantra); and lying about attendance and graduation rates year after year after year.
The sad few that are still little and focused in one way or another are almost as corrupt, but in that village-bully way that a small dictatorship can bring about. The bigger ones are larger dictatorships. All devote an enormous amount of time and energy to propaganda (marketing) and keeping not only the kids but also families “in line.”
The verdict is in. There were other 20th Century ideas that had to be tested in reality because, early on, they were abstractions with lots of propaganda behind them.
Joe’s charter school idea is a small example of the same nonsense.
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Actually, for a time Chicago also had some teacher/community developed district schools – I remember visiting some great ones on the West Side with folks from the Small School network.
It there truly was a “teacher run” school option, there would be many more, whether part of the district or as independent charters.
Yes, one of my relatives, a deeply frustrated CPS teacher suggested in talk with George in 1985. I can see why my cousin and George, and many other teachers, are frustrated with many large urban districts.
That’s why some of us helped develop new options for students and families.
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Lloyd you have danced around and around but still refuse to address the basic question. Should our school system treat students as a means to an end or as an end in themselves.? This has nothing to do with dorms, Berkley, poverty, kindergarten, Stanford, or any of the other things you have filled your responses with.
Is the answer to this question simply to unpleasant to contemplate?
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Many urban districts and Several states allow students to choose among public schools. These states allow schools and districts to set a number of students who the school can handle. Details vary. In some places schools may not set any admissions tests. In some places some schools may set admissions tests, and others may not (this is a situation I find unfortunate). In some places, transportation is provided. In some places transportation not provided, which I think is unfortunate. In some places students have options for several schools within a buiilding.
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Lloyd, we are #1 in child poverty among advanced nations. The UN table counts Romania as an advanced nation, and that is wrong. Romania is a nation that suffered terrible economic and social battering under Communism and is not an advanced nation.
We are #1 in a shameful statistic. 23% of US children live in poverty. Nearly 40%of black children.
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True. That makes sense. I stand corrected. Curious I checked some facts to see how Romania compares to the other countries and the U.S.
I also just checked Romania’s average PISA score and the average performance in reading is 438 points compared to the average in OECD countries of 496 ( the US average was 498)
In math the average was 445 compared to 494 ( the US average was 481)
In science the average was 439 compared to 501 (the US average was 497)
Life in a city school is very different from life in a rural school. An urban school will have over 100 or 200 students per year, science labs and well-stocked[citation needed] computer labs, clubs based on different interests (from math, film and drama to Harry Potter), teaching assistants and psychologists, free speech therapy and academic programs for gifted students, whereas rural schools are usually tiny, with some, in villages, providing only 4 years education — the rest being offered at a nearby larger village, having only one teacher for all students (generally under 10 students in total) — a situation almost identical to the one existing at the turn of the 20th century.
In addition, in Romania life in a city elementary school is very different from life in a rural school. An urban school will have over 100 or 200 students per year, science labs and well-stocked[citation needed] computer labs, clubs based on different interests (from math, film and drama to Harry Potter), teaching assistants and psychologists, free speech therapy and academic programs for gifted students, whereas rural schools are usually tiny, with some, in villages, providing only 4 years education — the rest being offered at a nearby larger village, having only one teacher for all students (generally under 10 students in total) — a situation almost identical to the one existing at the turn of the 20th century.
In addition, gross enrollment for primary, secondary and tertiary schools was 75% (52nd worldwide).
Romania’s mean score was 445 to America’s mean of 481. Note: the U.S. tested an unfair number of children who live in poverty dragging its mean down—how much, who knows, but when we remove the children who live in poverty, U.S. students rank 1st in the developed world.
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Thanks, Lloyd, that UNICEF Chart is widely quoted, and appears authoritative. But it is wrong to rate Romania as an “advanced nation” in the same category with France, Germany, Canada, and the US. I was there in 20 years ago, and the country had electricity only a few hour a day. It had suffered decades of misrule and corrupt leadership. The suffering was profound.
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Being #1 in percentage of childhood poverty among developed nations is a disgrace.
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Sorry the admin did not work with faculty and possibly community to create a better learning teaching environment. This is first the admin responsibility so I do not blame teachers. It has been done successfully on some areas with heavy gang presence.
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Lloyd –
Thank you for your cogent, reasoned, passionate and patient responses to TE’s many arguments against keeping our public schools. Like you, I spent my career working with poor kids in schools that never had enough. To some extent, if you have never been in our shoes, it’s really hard to understand. I’m sure your kids benefited from the tough love you showed them every day in just this passionate, patient manner. They were lucky to have you.
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What argument about public schools?
I am talking about a deeper issue than schools. How should we view students? Are some students the means that the schools use to help educate others in the school or are students to be treated as ends in themselves, where the concern is just for that students best interest?
Both are defensible, but it does seem to me that teachers need to choose.
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You seem to be off in left field somewhere postulating nonsense.
Every student is an individual but is also part of the community that feeds into the local community schools, but it’s obvious that to the fake education reformers that these kids are nothing but dollar signs to them. They are not profit tools to be used like a commodity, but some of them are role models and leaders. There will be negative leaders and role models and then positive ones and when you strip all the postive role models from a community, what’s left?
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Again, should you require a student to sacrifice part of their education, perhaps their safety, in the hope that this sacrifice will benefit the school? Notice I said require, not ask. If a student desires to sacrifice him or her self for the greater good, we would commend that student. It is perfectly ok to say that the state should require those students to make the sacrifice, that is what a utilitarian would say. Many would agree that the good of the many outweighs the good of the few.
I don’t know why your avoiding answering this simple, fundamental, question.
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Thank you. Patience was what my master teacher taught me. With patience you can achieve more than with anger and screaming. But sometimes it is not so easy to stay calm.
If you read my teacher’s “Crazy is Normal” memoir when it comes out in a month or so, you may discover what kind of teacher I was in detail, because my primary source was a very detailed daily journal that I kept for one full school year. Most every day when I got home, the first thing I did was write the entry for that day before I ate or started correcting, and I even kept notes at school to make sure I got some of the scenes right. I think that journal runs at least 500 pages typed.
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http://billmoyers.com/2014/05/23/more-from-ta-nehisi-coates-on-our-racist-heritage/
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http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/got-dough-how-billionaires-rule-our-schools
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Arne Duncan’s years as “Chief Executive Officer” of Chicago’s public schools were years of increasing segregation — as a policy of the city. There were several neoliberal programs which Duncan promoted, all of which resulted in more intense segregation in the city (and school system) that was already one of the most segregated in the USA.
So, increased segregation didn’t just “happen” — in Chicago or elsewhere. It was done by guys like Arne Duncan and their anti-public school, teacher bashing and unioin busting agendas.
There are now several Chicago Teachers Union reports on how this was done, and they are available on the CTU website (www.ctunet.com). Among these are “The Schools Chicago’s Students Deserve” and the most recent report, on the anniversary of the school closings that the Board voted to do on May 22, 2014. Not all of these policies were Duncan’s (the school closings are Rahm Emanuel’s contribution), but Duncan began many of them:
1. So-called “turnarounds.” Despite the failure of reconstitution as a policy by the late 1990s, under Arne Duncan Chicago rebranded that failed policy and instituted “turnaround” ten years ago. The first three schools to be subjected to it were Chicago’s Williams, Dodge and Terrell elementary schools. Duncan praised his own “courage” when he attacked those three schools and eliminated — and an almost totalitarian way — all of their staffs (from teachers to principals and lunchroom workers). All of those staffs were majority African-American, as were all of the kids in those schools. That set the pattern which continued down to this year. At the April 23, 2014 Board meeting — TEN YEARS after Duncan began “turnaround” in Chicago — the Board voted to slander, libel and destroy the work of the staffs of three elementary schools in Chicago — Dvorak, McNair and Gresham.
There is a direct line from Duncan’s attacked in 2004 – 2005 at the beginning of “turnaround” and today. “Turnaround,” as failed a policy as “reconstitution” was, continues, and it is used primarily to replace veteran African American teachers (and principals) with novices supposedly trained in superior “teaching methods” (like what Teach for American claims).
Duncan stands shoulder to shoulder with his boss in promoting this segregationist policy. In December 2008, a month after tears filled Chicago’s Grant Park following the election of Barack Obama, Obama sat with Arne Duncan in Dodge “School of Excellence” (the first “turnaround” school in Chicago) to announce that Duncan was to become U.S. Secretary of Education.
2. Charters. It was during the administration of Arne Duncan that the massive replacement of Chicago’s real public schools by charter schools took off. One of the trick Duncan used to do this was by getting the legislature to approve what is called the “campus” approach to charters. Under Illinois law, there was a maximum number of charter schools allowed for Chicago. To get around the law, Duncan and the Chicago Board of Education decided that one charter could have many many so-called “campuses.” As a result of that, the biggest “school” in Illinois is Chicago International Charter Schools (CICS), with more than a dozen campuses and 10,000 “students.” CICS is followed by the Noble Network of Charter Schools, UNO charter schools, and Aspira Charter Schools (among others).
The vast majority of the “campuses” of all of Chicago’s charter schools are viciously segregated: All-black; all-non-black “minority” (the UNO schools) for the most part. For reasons obvious in retrospect, Arne Duncan (and his successors) never put “desegregation” into the guidelines for Chicago’s ever expanding charter school “campuses.” As a result, Chicago’s UNO charter schools were allowed to market their “campuses” to Latino families in an overtly racist way that also undermined the Catholic schools in those communities (i.e., the line that parents would be safe from “them” while not having to pay the tuition that parochial schools had to charge). The other charter schools were never required to keep information for the public on racial matters because desegregation was not a part of the policy. Charter school expansion in Chicago was part of the neoliberal attack on real public schools, as has become clear nationally since 2009, when the Obama administration took over.
I could go on.
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Part of the reason we have segregated schools is because we have segregated neighborhoods. Why do we have segregated neighborhoods? I think Bob’s post has some of the answers. Many people, black and white, are in favor of neighborhood schools. No child child should have to sit on a bus for an extended period because that’s the only way to integrate schools (and it wouldn’t work in my town because of the demographics in public schools).
If the issue is poverty, then let’s get to the root cause of poverty. The achievement gap is alive and well even in more affluent areas where the % of low income students is low.
I think Bob’s post is relevant to this discussion.
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They could change district lines in a lot of areas so that kids wouldn’t have a long trip, and go a long way towards more integration in schools. It’s not a perfect solution, as you point out every place is different.
I believe the reason ed reformers didn’t do that is because it’s difficult politically and would threaten broad public support for ed reform. So instead, to “solve the problem” they create a new parallel school system using “choice”, and then it’s a matter of people “choosing” schools, so there’s less accountability and responsibility put on lawmakers. “These are the schools people are choosing! Don’t blame lawmakers if they’re segregated! ”
It was too politically problematic and risky to push to change district lines, and they already had a huge group of powerful people who wanted “choice” for ideological reasons, so the made a political decision to go the path of least resistance.
It is interesting to read the history of housing discrimination though, which was a huge driver of segregation, because you realize lawmakers have been dumping every societal problem on public schools for a very long time. Public schools could never integrate the country alone, that’s not possible, it would take a lot more than school policy, but it’s one more issue that we have decided schools have to solve. This is a disturbingly consistent theme.
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I think that redrawing district lines would threaten support for public education, not just education reform.
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“I believe the reason ed reformers didn’t do that is because it’s difficult politically and would threaten broad public support for ed reform.”
Seems like the more basic reason ed reformers didn’t do this is because reducing segregation wasn’t on their list of priorities in the first place. I’m sure there were exceptions, but at least in NY, I don’t remember desegregation being one of the rationales that were presented to justify the charter school movement. It was more about offering choice and new educational opportunities, and secondarily introducing competition into public education.
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Is a community that is 94.3% white “segregated? Is it a terrible thing that 94.3% (according to Wikipedia) who live in Bryan Ohio are white? Where is your criticism of the people who live there?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan,_Ohio#Demographics
Or is it ok for the federal government to allow a community to be 94.3% white but not allow a public school, open to all, that is actively chose by families – to be 94.3% African American?
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It appears too many of us have been suckered in by the govt. of the importance of have the correct mix of students in classrooms,
rather than every school educating our children.
For the ambitious among you, take a glance at what education in the highest rated nations include. Check Finland, Japan, Singapore….look at their websites and compare with ours.
You will find no ‘social engineering’ as permeates the entire US Dept. of Education, which has become an industry rather than
govt agency to foster superior public education.
So, let the bean counters dictate the composition of America’s classroom, rather then allowing educators ensure students
actually learn something. ajbruno14 gmail
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While I’m not sold on social engineering that leads to busing students long distances just so schools have every minority represented, using Finland, Japan and Singapore as examples doesn’t work because they don’t have the same racial and ethnic mix or challenges we have in the United States.
For instance, Finland is almost all white and of Scandinavian heritage with an almost uniform cultural and religious foundation. About 80% of Fins are Lutherans. In addition, Finland has less than 5% of its population living in poverty while the US has 23% that adds up to more than nine times the total population of Finland.
The same may be said of Japan and Singapore, and Singapore has a rigid education system that includes public corporal punishment and tracking where student test results are used to place students in the track that best fits them academically and this placement indicates who will end up on an academic track or a vocational one—the U.S. doesn’t have a vocational high school track and the other three nations in your comparison do. China does the same thing testing students and then places students who test high on national tests into the best academic schools while offering those who score low a seat in a vocational school. In fact, just about every country on the earth does this but the U.S. Since President Reagan, the U.S. has been obsessed with getting every child ready for college—something no other country even attempts.
Why is it that almost every problem the U.S. faces today started with Reagan?
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Poverty and racism – the valuing of some children over others. It’s not separate but equal we’re discussing, but separate and unequal. Let’s give a prize to anyone who can find an affluent school system with no school nurses so children die. Seriously – go try and report back.
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Duncan is a donut…no pun intended…;-)
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Diane
This is a wonderful post. I have been thinking for a very long time where does accountability in education begin if not at this point in time in the hands of Arne Duncan. Thank you for bringing this to the forefront.
I truly hope you feel better.
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Regarding the anniversary of Brown v Bd of Ed, 2 National
Unions filed a federal lawsuit challenging school closures and
Chartering in the US circa Jim Crow era style racial
discrimination. Also mentioned, is a scathing report outlining how
Charters and school closings that result from the saturation of
Charters in neighborhoods results in racial inequity and urban
blight – Jim Crow style. The concern is that Charters, particularly
a lift on the cap, will grow in number prompting more public
schools to close and the urban blight as a side effect will likely
expand OUTWARD into suburban communities not to mention
racial/special needs disparity will increase as well. Chartering is
not a well regulated industry. Abuse and waste of money on the
public’s dime, is common. Arne seems obliivious to this FACT. The
Unions timed the lawsuit action to mark the 60th anniversary of the
Brown v. The Board of Education . Report outlining how school
clsoures due to Charters siphons district $ and creates Urban
blight at a disproportionate level for minority students here:
Click to access J4JReport-Death_by_a_Thousand_Cuts.pdf
The Federal Complaints are here:
http://www.advancementproject.org/pages/journey-for-justice-and-advancement-project-files-title-vi-complaints-again
Report regarding waste and fraud due to poorly regulated Charter
Schools nation wide on the publics dime here:
What say you, Arne?
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Thank you, Diane for your insight. It is most compelling.
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With Maya Angelou’s permission, a charter public school serving virtually all African American students bears her name.
Like many African Americans, Angelou saw charters are one, not the only, but one part of progress. She did not just give permission for the school to use her name. She returned a number of times to talk with the students and help the school.
One of the school’s co-founders is the son of a famous civil rights activist James Forman. Here is his brief summary of Angelou’s involvement by James Forman, Jr.
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/6/maya-angelou-charterschoolwashingtondc.html
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Joe,
You are commenting on the blog of a person who initially saw a lot of promise in the ideals of charter schools. If the preponderance of those experiments had kept true to their espoused ideals then there would be no one raising a fuss here. But the history and the clear and present dangers have proven otherwise, and those are the problems that concerned individuals have come together here to discuss.
Talking ’bout my generation, one of the first books we all read when we got to college was A.S. Neill’s Summerhill. All us old hippies have always been critical of everything Establishment and Status Quo and all us Dewey-eyed types have always been in favor of all sorts of alternative, experimental, innovative, laboratory schools.
But we know the rules for running experiments on human subjects. Experiments are properly conducted in small batches, and with the utmost caution. They are never cheaper than the tried and true ways and you do not diffuse their “innovations” to the whole population until you are sure they do not cause more harm than good. All those rules are being violated by the massive main crop of corporate charterbaggers and hedgucators as we speak.
My longstanding advice for bona fide charter schools, those that operate true to the founding ideals, is that they should rebrand themselves under a more iron-clad set of principles. It is clear that the original charter school brand has been corrupted beyond all hope.
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Thanks for the observations, Jon.
There has been corruption & abuse among some charters, as there has been among some unions and traditional school districts. I still think the core idea of unions and of charters is a good one. Moreover, about 2/3 of the charters in the country are independent.
Also, there are some groups of charters that I think are doing very fine things..as they are some great district schools. I’ve recently posted the growing notion of teacher led schools, one of he good ideas that has come out of charters.
http://www.educationevolving.org/newsletters/teacher-led-schools-idea-hits-national-media
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From the NY TImes, quoting a state auditor’s report: “The audit by the state comptroller said the school, the Churchill School and Center on East 29th Street, took advantage of programs and laws that send public money to private schools, and recommended that future payments to the school be cut to compensate for the overcharges. Education officials said they would do just that.
“Time and again, my office has uncovered special education contractors trying to evade the rules,” the comptroller, Thomas P. DiNapoli, said in a statement. “This taxpayer money, intended to help children with special education needs, was misused for inappropriate and noneducational purposes.”
Sounds like school districts need to more closely monitor some private schools with which they contract.
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Got that backwards,Joe. Teacher-led schools were the first iteration of charters,proposed by none other than Al Shanker. The idea that public schools can get good ideas from charters has failed to pan out, unless you mean they can get better test scores by cherry-picking their test takers.
And could you please cite the “abuse and corruption among unions and school districts”? Aside from Rhee and Rod Paige’s supposed miracles that turned out not to be.
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Thanks for commenting, calanghoff. What Shanker proposed was already happening in New York City in district 4 with alternative schools.
But what was happening in District 4 (and then in some other community districts) was limited by what local school boards were willing to accept. So teachers at the individual schools were not allowed to set their salary and working conditions. The teacher led schools described in the note are allowed to set salary and working conditions. They are allowed to purchase services from places they want, rather than having to go district procedures which in many places are slow – and in some places teachers have discovered are more expensive than what the teachers, parents and student can find elsewhere.
As to teacher union corruption, I’ve given many examples here but suggest you do a google search. There have been major scandals with theft of funds teacher unions in Miami, Washington DC, Maine, Maryland, New York and other places. There are websites devoted to describing teacher union corruption, just as there are websites devoted to describing charter corruption. Here’s an example:
http://teachersunionexposed.com/embezzlementexcess.php
Other websites describe district corruption.
Again, our 3 children all attended urban non-admission test district public schools, I’ve been a teacher union member, as has my wife who just retired after 33 years of urban public school teaching. But I think we need to acknowledge that there has been corruption in a variety of places.
As to ideas shared…after some Minnesota districts saw the success of a Chinese immersion charter and a Montessori charter middle school, they started their own. Some district educators on having high schools placed on college campuses after some charters began doing that. Charter & district educators are learning from eachother about how to encourage potential first general students to take dual high school/college credit courses.
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Please also see comment immediately above yours, citing inadequate district supervision of how private contract” schools spend money. These are private schools serving students with special needs that district schools have decided they can not serve well.
The audit by the state comptroller said the school, the Churchill School and Center on East 29th Street, took advantage of programs and laws that send public money to private schools, and recommended that future payments to the school be cut to compensate for the overcharges. Education officials said they would do just that.
“Time and again, my office has uncovered special education contractors trying to evade the rules,” the comptroller, Thomas P. DiNapoli, said in a statement. “This taxpayer money, intended to help children with special education needs, was misused for inappropriate and noneducational purposes.”
This article appeared several days ago in The New York Times. Since it points out that some district schools “ship out” some students with special needs, and since it reports lack of district oversight, I think it’s relevant to discussions we’ve have here.
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