Bertis Downs is a great supporter of public education who lives in Athens, Georgia, and sends his daughter to Clarke Central High School. He is also a valued director of the Network for Public Education.
In this post, he thanks President Obama for recognizing the great things happening in his local high school. But he invites the President to visit Athens and see what his policies are doing to the school.
He writes:
“The policies currently promoted by your Department of Education are actually hurting– not helping– schools like ours. It is clear we will reduce schools’ efficacy if public education remains fixated on tests that only measure limited concepts – tests that regularly relegate less advantaged children into the “bottom half” and limit their access to broader education.
“Why does the law distill the interactions of our teachers and students over the course of a year into a high-stakes multiple choice test? Is this really a valid system of accountability for teachers, based so heavily on their students’ test scores? If so, why are so many public school parents, teachers and students pushing back against it? And why aren’t the private schools insisting on it?
“In my daughter’s English class at Clarke Central, students engage the works of Plato and learn to discern and make philosophical arguments about abstract concepts like piety; they read Hemingway and learn how to engage questions such as whether a protagonist’s moral code can be attributed to the author. You cannot pick “A, B, C, or D” for such things, or if you can, then the entire experience is trivialized. Of course assessments are a necessary part of any educational process, to help guide, inform and improve instruction, but the high-stakes test-and-punish regime now in place is not doing that.
“Choices” like “prep academies” on the public dime make a diverse population like Clarke Central’s increasingly rare, and the No Excuses model schools serve poor and minority populations almost exclusively. Since we know that concentrated poverty so often correlates with low standardized test scores, why is such over-testing and misuse of testing so central to current policy focus? Is that where your education policy is taking us–toward a de facto two-track system with schools for well-to-do students and other schools for those from poverty? Your speeches do not suggest any of this, especially when you talk about “opportunity for all,” ”great teachers,” and “setting high standards.” But current policies, accompanied by the sweet-sounding elixir of “choice,” are reducing the ability of skilled and effective teachers to really teach. Surely you must recognize that privatized models of competition conflict with American education’s historic commitment to empower each child to reach his or her highest potential, a commitment based on educators working together in collaboration as a team.”

When the President and Mrs. Obama order Secretary of Education Arne Duncan to get cracking, enlist the aid of the various malanthropies like the Gates Foundation, and mobilize their political backers to turn the school their own children attend, Sidwell Friends, into the kind of low-skills test-prep Centre of EduExcellence they are mandating for OTHER PEOPLE’S CHILDREN—
Then we will know that the self-styled “education reformers” are serious about their claims and goals.
Otherwise, it’s all smoke and mirrors in support of an increasingly two-tiered education system.
Just my dos centavitos worth…
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Agree, KTA.
When they choose for their own children that which they prescribe for other people’s children, then will I believe in pure motives, sincere claims and noble goals.
(BTW, i will still disagree with them!)
However, until that day, it is, as you said, all smoke and mirrors. One big con job.
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“Otherwise, it’s all smoke and mirrors in support of an increasingly two-tiered education system.”
This is what the current national educational reforms have wrought!
Time to change course!
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Well said by Mr. Downs who used to manage one of my favorite bands, REM. In addition to convincing Obama to change ed policy, maybe he could convince the band to tour again.
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I think the Ignoreland lyrics apply to our current administration also….;(
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But, the current educational reforms ( “deforms?”) have been brought about with the direct complicity of those that were supposed to bring “hope and change” to the system .
At least, with the Republicans, the voters can see exactly what it is they’re going to get.
Not so with many of the DINO politicians that we now have in place, starting from the POTUS on down.
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Here in Ohio, the State is purposely failing 10,000 third graders as the basis for choosing the passing score on the Third Grade Reading test. They will be held back. Oh, voucher students are exempt.
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It’s such a stupid, mean-spirited policy. It’s this inflexible rigidity that makes the whole “innovative!” claims of ed reformers such bunk.
There’s no imagination in this, no creativity. It’s grim and joyless and punishing. Not to mention OLD. Holding them back is an OLD idea.
Are they really kidding themselves that holding third graders back is a new and innovative idea? Really? It’s like when they “invented” school uniforms. Transformational! No one ever thought of that before. I look forward to the next Aspen summit on education when they can invent paddling children, or staying after school.
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Also, you should know that the US Dept of Education believes that the leave third graders back policy will encourage states to invest in preschool.
It’s on their blog. That’s how pie in the sky and aspirational this is. Arne Duncan thinks holding 10,000 third graders back will miraculously lead to investment in preschool. Can they GET further from reality? I love how attenuated it is. “You leave the third graders back and then…..a lot of things happen and then, PRESCHOOL”.
This is what they believe, and “belief” is certainly the right word.
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As for the POTUS – I’d love to see him and Mrs. Obama visit some of our public schools in Manhattan, Brooklyn, the Bronx or Queens next time they are attending some elegant and expensive fund raiser in NYC.
Maybe it would alter the direction of his views on educational reforms.
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Not just visit, let’s see Pres. Obama and Arne Duncan spend a week as a substitute teacher in a public school.
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“And why aren’t the private schools insisting on it?”
And why aren’t private schools insisting that their teachers all have a right to arbitration to contest adverse employment decisions that the schools make?
And why aren’t private schools insisting that their staff have defined benefit retirement plans?
Will we ever know the answer to these mysteries?
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Why is it not possible to discuss the style of education offered (curriculum, course offerings, pedagogical strategies, etc.) separately from how the “business” of the school is run?
I have never heard a parent attribute their choice of an expensive, elite private school to the type of 401k the teachers get or what type of contracts the staff has. But I sure have heard them discuss the curriculum and course offerings of the schools. And, believe it or not,parents have extolled the virtues of the lack of constant, high stakes, mind numbing, bubble tests at the private academies.
And BTW, many of the expensive, elite private schools down here do offer pay, contracts and benefits very similar to the public schools.
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I doubt that very seriously. No private outfit has the retirement benefits that public employees get. In fact, private school salaries alone are generally way inferior to those in public schools, hence the very high turnover of teachers.
Private schools are NOT better than public.
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“I doubt that very seriously.” and “In fact, private school salaries alone are generally way inferior to those in public schools, hence the very high turnover of teachers.”
Well, susannunes, if that is your experience, then that is your experience. However, it is NOT my experience. I have been offered jobs at various southern elites over the years, and have friends who currently work at several of them.
Very low teacher turn over, and the pay, benefits packages I was offered (and my friends have) was not far off from the public scale. Now, note, I am talking about the VERY expensive, elite, “restrictive and exclusive” , long time established type privates. The kind of places movers, shakers and “big dogs” send their kids. These places want / need to attract very good teachers and keep them, and they compete with the metro systems for those teachers. I was not referring to the small church sponsored sort, or the fairly recently founded type private schools that are pretty common around here. They do, in my experience (We have interviewed several teachers from these sort of places for positions at my school), offer much lower pay and benefits packages and have a high turn over rate.
I also do not recall suggesting private schools were in any way “better”, so not sure what your last sentence is about.
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“I have never heard a parent attribute their choice of an expensive, elite private school to the type of 401k the teachers get or what type of contracts the staff has.”
Nor have I heard a parent say that they chose to send their kids to public school because of the pension plans and LIFO seniority protections.
The elite private schools are different than most public schools. They screen their applicants and “counsel out” so they can weed out the kids who can’t handle the rich curriculum at the same pace as the rest. Their employees are cheaper, and they don’t have to support an immense system of special education services, which helps keep the class sizes low. They’re funded by parents and they live on reputation, so they have a totally different system of accountability. If a principal thinks a teacher is no good, the teacher can be fired. If enough parents (especially the tuition-paying and high-donating kind) complain about something, the principal will respond. Public schools are funded by taxpayers, and policy decisions are made at high levels of their bureaucracy. They’re less responsive to individual parents (including parents who think there’s too much standardized testing). So, as we’ve unfortunately learned, a very different system of accountability has evolved in public schools.
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Flerp,
“The elite private schools are different than most public schools.”
Agreed.
I am very familiar with many of them.
And we can squabble all day about pensions, benefits, contracts, etc. (I suspect regions of the country differ a great deal here, union and non union states for example).
My point is, why cannot we discuss the pedagogy, course offerings, assessment strategies and curriculums chosen by and offered at those schools separately ?
I do believe (and have evidence that) parents choose those schools, at least in part, due to those factors.
I see no need to conflate teacher retirement benefits and contractual procedures with which curriculum is taught or weather or not they subject their students to endless bubble in tests.
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I find it hard to believe that every student at these elite private schools is keeping up with rich curriculum. That is the myth the elites want us to believe. I know this is anecdotal, but President GW Bush, President Obama and Arne Duncan attended elite schools……
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Perhaps the elite don’t want their children to take these tests because they know all the students enrolled in private schools (their children) won’t score “highly proficient”.
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Of course not. The tuition system corrupts the whole process in private education. There is more pressure on teachers to “cook” the grades and such for if they don’t the parents will go elsewhere.
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I think they’re related. Of course people are free to compare the things you mention, and it may be useful. Personally, I find these “if X is so great for other people’s children, why don’t you want X in exclusive private schools” questions pointless. The fundamental reason people send their kids to exclusive private schools is to separate them from our kids. That’s why they’re “exclusive.” The elite may disagree about exactly how schools for other people’s children should be run, but the one thing they all have in common is that they don’t think those rules should apply to their children.
I agree the bubble tests are excessive.
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I generally agree with you here, Flerp.
One of the “points” of private school is to get away from the rabble and rub elbow with those who are even richer, more import and more well placed than you are.
With regard to the “other people’s children” meme,I guess I am thinking about those particular elites who are activly pimping and pushing the so called reforms with platitudes about how import, worthwhile, necessary and just plain Grr reat! (insert Tony tiger voice) they are and then choose none of them for their own children. That just straight up makes me mad. And that scenario suggests to me that perhaps their ideas are not so wonderful after all, and maybe, just maybe there is some ulterior motive.
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My spouse received a scholarship to attend a private high school on the east coast for a year after graduating from the local rural public high school in the middle of the country. It was a life changing experience, as the standards and the seriousness of the students were light years different from the rural public system.
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I am sure many of the student were serious, but I doubt if all were. My point is, the school will not have 100% of the students passing (the now abandoned NCLB requirement for 2014).
If the elite attend all these wonderful schools, I guess there are a few bad apples who aren’t good stewards of their education. That wouldn’t be an issue if they didn’t muck things up for everyone else.
I bet more than a few bankers and traders who exploited high risk mortgages for their own gain went to elite private schools. My seven year old attends a Title 1 school and he could tell you adjustable rate mortgages are a bad idea for people who don’t qualify for a traditional mortgage and do not intend to sell in their home when the rates increase.
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Ooops, meant this to reply to Ang above.
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Why? Because our society worships private ownership above any notion of a ‘common good”. Imposition of regulatory controls is, in the main, anathema to Americans. So, b their very nature private schools are seen as exempt from standards, regulations, controls that can be imposed on public institutions.
‘School choice’, is merely a substitute for private enterprise, an education business. As such, governmental control would violate core beliefs in capitalism. And that is forbidden.
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But the public schools worship the ‘common good’ above private ownership, and thus illustrate the evils of government run enterprises. So called ‘democratic accountability’ becomes the name for obvious bureaucratic mismanagement.
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Interesting article from Orlando, FL paper about school reform and and KTA says…”other people’s children”.
Title: Private schools’ FCAT fears mirror frustrations of Florida parents
From the article:
“Private schools throughout Florida are terrified.
The reason: Some lawmakers want to force many of them — the ones that get taxpayer subsidies anyway — to test their students the same way public schools test theirs.
The prospect, they say, is horrifying.
Just last weekend, leaders of a national private-school advocacy group penned an guest column for the Sentinel with the headline: “FCAT would threaten private-school appeal.”
The piece said private schools worry that, if they were forced to take part in FCAT mania, it would undercut teachers, short-change students and “threaten the very freedoms” that make their schools successful.
In other words, private-school leaders are aghast at the possibility of having to treat their kids the way the state of Florida already treats yours.”
Rest of the article here:
http://goo.gl/8fhP0R
So, it seems private school parents don’t want endless stating, scripted curriculums and all the other “deformer” crud.
Wow, who knew?
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Ang: the other day Dee Dee wrote “Have they no shame?????”
Evidently not, when self-styled “education reformers” can openly advocate for double standards that advantage them and disadvantage public schools.
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“education reformers” can openly advocate for double standards that advantage them and disadvantage public schools.”
Another great phrase!
Thank you.
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endless TESTING not stating. Although perhaps apropos, also 😉
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I’m sympathetic to them, but what did they think was going to happen when they took vouchers? They thought they could be publicly-funded private schools? Why are they such special snowflakes?
I guess I don’t really understand these charters and vouchers who are (supposedly) part of the public system yet refuse any responsibility for the system as a whole. They’re part of a system. They lobbied for vouchers. They can’t just look out for their own students now. That’s the price of joining a system.
They were the ones who said it didn’t matter how schools were “organized”, that we were looking for “great schools!” Apparently it does matter, a lot, or they wouldn’t be making a claim for special treatment and standing on “private”.
We have Catholic schools in Toledo that are only remaining open due to vouchers. They would have closed, but for the legislature pumping public money in there. Do they really think they’re going to retain their religious nature when the vast majority of their students would never, ever have attended that school unless the state was paying for it and have no particular commitment to the religious instruction?
I think they’re kidding themselves.
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I do agree, that if one takes public money one should be subjected to the same testing and “accountability” nonsense as the public schools. But isn’t it interesting that testing/accountability measures “undercuts” teachers and “short changes” students if they are your students. It is apparently necessary and justified if it is other people’s children!
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Some private schools are set up exclusively for special needs students and have a mix of tuition paying parents and “purchase of service” students sent by public school districts. At the school my child attended, the purchase of service students took the state assessment tests, since it was public money paying.
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Public funds going to private hands?
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Teachingeconomist, some districts send their autism, Tourette’s, severely emotionally disturbed students, etc. to private facilities under purchase of service. Go to a support group for parents of these special needs students and you can hear stories of how the charter schools refuse to deal with these students. Thecharters tell purchase of service families to go have the regular publicschool district pay.
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That seems like a very sensible arrangement and I hope that it would be seen as that by those who are against having governments pay for privately managed education.
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Teaching economist,
How do the small population districts in your state educate students that can’t be educated in regular classrooms? For example a district with only a couple of blind students
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Saw an ad for a private school recently……”We know what’s best and it is NOT a TEST!”
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Reformers only test other people’s children.
A simple and right-to-the point answer as to why private schools don’t adopt these policies . . . . .
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If any of this reformist, pedagogical quackery were any good, not only would elite private schools be doing it, they’d be jealously excluding everyone else from doing it.
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Ang
March 8, 2014 at 3:53 pm
I do agree, that if one takes public money one should be subjected to the same testing and “accountability” nonsense as the public schools. But isn’t it interesting that testing/accountability measures “undercuts” teachers and “short changes” students if they are your students. It is apparently necessary and justified if it is other people’s children!”
But private schools never made the claim to be about “other peoples children”. A big part of the appeal is they aren’t about other peoples’ children.
That’s why I’m wondering why they were all lobbying for vouchers, like dopes 🙂
It’s as if there’s mass confusion on the different roles of “public” and “private”. It isn’t that confusing to me. I’m sort of shocked it’s so confusing to so many supposedly brilliant people.
Eva Moskowitz didn’t KNOW that she has to take the public school kids into account when she moves into their school? She’s supposedly a public school. How could she not know this?
This idea that they all could be independent actors, special snowflakes within a public system just strikes me as completely insane. If they want to be publicly-funded schools, they have to accept the downside of that.
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“But private schools never made the claim to be about “other peoples children”.
Perhaps they did not make any claims, but the voucher accepting privates were the beneficiaries of the test and punish education “reform” policies. They now say those policies blow chunky and want no part of them.
Just kinda makes me wonder, you know?!
“A big part of the appeal is they aren’t about other peoples’ children.”
Agree, as I said to FLERP above, one of the “points” of elite private school is to get away from the rabble and rub elbow with those who are even richer, more import and more well placed than you are. The last thing they want is other people’s children mucking it up. With the possible exception of anyone who is REALLY good at something like a sport or activity or academics, that kid may get a scholarship. A bit of diversity looks good in the tri fold brochure and provides a feel good scholarship story for the big donors.
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A public school in a high income, low diversity town in Connecticut offer spots to inner city youths,complete with a host home. One of the requirements is the applicants have to be at the top of their class at their current school.
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So are you against publicly funded “freedom of choice”? There’s no hostility from private, charter, and parochial schools to the public schools, but rather the other way around. The children don’t belong to the public school systems. They belong to the parents. And if the parents can muster the votes to elect state legislators that see things their way, who are you to object? You seem to believe in voting only when you get your way.
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What you are calling “freedom of choice” is only a choice for some, not all; thereby creating a dual system, ipso facto. THAT is a violation of Brown, Plessy, and most, if not all, state constitutions. Re: Gannon vs. Kansas, Kansas Supreme Court, just happened. All about equity, and states rights.
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Isn’t there already a private system of education? There is not a dual system, but I would suggest that there are at least four kinds of schools: traditional zoned public, magnet schools that are allowed to test students for admission, charter schools, and private schools. Perhaps it would be better to cut things more finely, but this would seem to be a good start.
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“freedom of choice” is code, like “right to work”; semantic gibberish, intended to confuse not clarify.
The issue of equity, that the state, not fed., spends $xxx/child is an essential tenet of free public education. We parsed that one in Arkansas with Lakeview, et. al. in the 90’s; in the 60’s we were a test case for equality; in the 50’s for separate-but-equal.
What private schools do with private money is their business.
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Equal spending gets you unequal outcomes. Spend the same amount per student in a remote rural district as a student in a dense urban district and the urban student still has many more options, though not a 360 degree view of the horizon.
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